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21 Oct 2017 12:57:33
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20 Oct 2017 18:35:26
Hi ed002. I read a report today saying that fellaini had rejected a new contract offer made to him by united. Do you know if there is any truth in that? Do you think he still wants to leave or that he will sign up for a couple more years? Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - Yes. The damage was done over the summer when he lost the move he wanted to Turkey - he is at an age where he wants to be in the side each week.}

21 Oct 2017 11:23:05
On a similar topic we have, according to reports 8 players who could leave in summer for free: how many / who do you think could stay or go?
herrera
mata
fellaini
shaw
young
carrick
blind
zlatan.
Carrick, young and zlatan in summer, with fellaini, shaw in January.

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21 Oct 2017 12:56:40
Is only be qorries about Herrera, mata and Young aa fhe others are now too old or reqching towards the end of their careers.

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16 Oct 2017 07:57:10
It was a crappy performance and tough to watch game.

I don't know if the players were tired or the bus was parked or if klopp reminds our players of 'It' the clown, but liverpool gave a good account of themselves.

Our passing and pretty much everything else was off base apart from the defending.

After the game finished, i was abolutely mad but in the end sanity prevailed and realized that some key players were injured and its a point we are coming back with from anne-field and that's not the end of the world or the season.

They can play badly or they can play very excellently, i am just helplessly and hopelessly a fan of these annoying jerks and i can't not support them. So show us all hows its done in mid week Man Utd.

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17 Oct 2017 08:51:43
a lot of top teams will come away with zero points at anfield imo.

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17 Oct 2017 11:06:32
Poorer sides than ours have already taken 3 points at Anfield. It was a cowardice game-plan that yields very few points. Jose really needs to rethink this style.

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17 Oct 2017 13:54:07
Syd
R u sure I thought the scouse ware unbeating at home this season . only conceded 1 in the epl at home .
I might be wrong.

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17 Oct 2017 14:19:13
You're right jred. They've been very hard to beat at home.

I was just extremely disappointed in the performance, but this is what Jose would have been happy with, the point at anfield. He will be assessing every single game, every single point and that was a good point. Just from a fan's perspective, a bad game.

Jose will have the whole picture in mind whereas we, as fans, looking for entertaining football don't have that overall picture.

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17 Oct 2017 14:44:54
I'm not only talking about the last six weeks, I'm talking about this Liverpool side at Anfield. Poorer sides than us went to Anfield and gave them a game. This is exactly why Bobby Charlton didn't want him as manager and why he was overlooked by SAF. This is not the Manchester United way. It's embarrassing and quite frankly pointless, it's better to defend tight, but not starve the attack than to have ten players defending and managing minimal attempts. You'd expect this from a struggling 2nd Division side in a cup game, not Manchester United going to a rival. It's embarrassing and IMO pointless as we will lose many points doing this,

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17 Oct 2017 15:01:29
angelred, I think Carragher got it spot on with what he said yesterday. Last ten games Jose has done this and he's managed ONE GOAL! One goal in TEN GAMES.

Listen I am all for playing the defensive counter attacking game, but Jose takes it to the extreme. This Liverpool side is beatable. We were favourites before, even Jred himself fancied a win.

Problem is we managed 6 touches in their area all game. You cannot expect two forwards to take on 6-7 Liverpool players. The team was way too defensive. This will cost us the title playing like we are three divisions lower.

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17 Oct 2017 15:05:01
I'm pro Jose all the way, I do not want him to leave, but this side of his game he can improve on. Personally I think it's more about his own ego than the team. His personal records. We are Manchester United, we do not play that way. Not to that extreme. Not when it wasn't necessary, we have the players to score plenty of goals. Even LvG went there and gave them one helluva game guys. Defensive yes, but not to that extreme.

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17 Oct 2017 15:21:33
Syd
Epl
8 games 6 wins 2 goals conceded 21 scored .
21 scored in 8 games .
EC
2 games 2 wins 1 conceded 7 scored .

I think your over reacting to 1 game this season .
I fancied us to be beat the scouse but I wasn't surprised with how we set up or the game .
Liverpool United games are often over hyped and poor quality.
Form goes out the window.

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{Ed007's Note - Sorry to butt in, Jred, but can I draw you guys attention to our annual charity drive which started yesterday and is pinned at the top of the pages and linked HERE.
It was an idea I had for the Celtic pages only but Ed001 and Ed033 amazingly adopted it as their cross sites annual charity. It will run until December 11th so there's no rush - or pressure on anyone - to donate.
Thanks guys.}

17 Oct 2017 16:04:24
I am reacting to one game Jred. I'm only talking about how he chose to set up against Liverpool. This season and last season. It was cowardly and not the Manchester United way, we were not severe underdogs. We were favourites. I don't think he needed to adopt this style this time round, I think he got it wrong, but was lucky Liverpool have struggled to hit the net lately.

Ed007, I'll take a look mate.

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{Ed007's Note - Cheers, Syd (yes)

17 Oct 2017 16:42:46
Bit of a change of discussion, but when Rojo returns do people think we may go with three at the back? I mean with Ibra returning and us looking at bringing in Rose, a 352 could be a position we look at. Not sure I'd want it, but think Jose may look at it.

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17 Oct 2017 18:20:18
Its a strong possibility syd.

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17 Oct 2017 19:01:41
Syd, I agree with pretty much all u said and what u usually say and I'm equally miffed that jose had the team play that way but I can't help but think it had to do with missing one or two key players and/ or tired legs from international games.

But like u, I'm a Jose fan and I hope that this performance was an anomaly and evidence of it shall be on display in Portugal tomorrow.

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17 Oct 2017 19:16:36
I just hope that when we complete the team he wants this summer, then he has the courage to go to these away games and give them a game. Otherwise why is he building these teams if he doesn't have faith in them?

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{Ed025's Note - im with you sydney, the guy is an egotistical maniac for me and he will be pleased with saturday because he got a point at anfield which in his eyes adds to his CV, the fact that you played rotten and without purpose means nothing to this guy its all about him never mind the club, united have a reputation of being a great side to watch as well as a winning mentality and that is the basis of why they have been so successful over the years, its also why other supporters begrudgingly admire united because there has always been the entertainment value with players like best, charlton and in more recent times cole, scholes, yorke, becks and the likes, he will kill your club mate you mark my words, will you win games and trophies? yes he will give you that but at what cost?...every supporter likes winning that goes without saying but for me playing with style, passion and belief that you can go to any ground in the world and win is just if not more important, it may sound that i am having a go at jose here...you bet your god damn cotton socks i am mate..

17 Oct 2017 20:00:24
Ed025, I was against Jose taking over from SAF for this very reason, however United died after SAF and have been dead since. Jose really had nothing to lose when he took over. Backed with millions it could only really go one way. I was all for the Jose appointment after LvG, but only because we had nothing to lose. We were already dead.

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{Ed025's Note - pochettino or klopp would suit united down to the ground for me sydney, they both play a brand of football that is effective and entertaining mate..

17 Oct 2017 20:17:53
I liked Klopp, but he has no plan B. He also had Zorc behind him bringing him in some very good players. I think Poch is a good manager, but I'd keep hold of Jose for a couple years then look for someone young and ambitious who will already have a great group of players that basically pick themselves.

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{Ed025's Note - fair enough mate..

17 Oct 2017 20:40:16
Fergy has gone we now have Jose and this is what he does .
Don't give it the " I'm a fan of Jose I support Jose " and then whine he does something Jose.

Truth is we have been fantastic this season with 1 bad game against the scouse . Which tends to happen truth they are rarely great games .

If lukaku takes his chance it's a different game if the scouse scored one it's a different game .
In fact in Miki or lukaku or Miki had of played well it would of looked a different game .
Buts that its and buts people need to move one 1 game in a fantastic start to the season.

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17 Oct 2017 20:43:33
By the way Jose got the point he wanted so he wasn't wrong .

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17 Oct 2017 20:43:33
By the way Jose got the point he wanted so he wasn't wrong .

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17 Oct 2017 20:46:49
I've heard good things about the Watford manager and Clement. I think we need to get the confidence back fully, then build a great squad, then whoever takes over will be in a much better position than Moyes was in when SAF stepped down.

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17 Oct 2017 21:05:25
LOL jred, are you saying I cannot support the manager and criticise him? Is this a dictatorship? Are you North Korean? No manager is perfect, SAF was far from perfect. If I want to have my opinion on something MU on a MU site, then I will. This is a relevant subject as most of the media have been discussing it.

We aren't talking about how poor MU were, yes we were dire, but we are talking about the negative game plan our manager implemented. And was it really necessary?

I don't think he was looking forward to the backlash from that game. His face said it all. He bottled it and he knew unless he sneaked a goal he would face a hard time.

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17 Oct 2017 21:30:49
Not in the least bit but that's what Jose does it's like complaining that fellaini heads the ball .
If you don't want Jose as manager fine, but don't say you do want him and then complain about him doing exactly what he does .
Put out a solid team, away from home against your biggest rival with key players missing . It's what he does

We drew a game get over it we didn't win a game stop sulking .
It's one game where we didn't play well.

We never set up like we did last season with a back 6 .
We set up solid against a good attacking team .
But our attacking players had poor games .
If lukaku Miki martial play well it looks a different plan, they never they had stinkers

32 goals we have scored in 11 games this season .
First 00, first time our attackers have a stinker dummies are out .

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17 Oct 2017 21:51:09
Again Jred, it's nothing to do with performance. We are discussing the manager's game-plan. You think this is the first poor performance this season? We aren't talking about Lukaku, Martial or Miki having an off day, we are talking about the ten men parked inside our penalty area for all the game leaving Lukaku on the halfway line with three defenders and a midfielder marking him. I think it was completely unnecessary to defend to that extent, as do most of the pundits. Liverpool are not Real Madrid. Even Spurs had a go in Madrid tonight.

So just to recap, nothing to do with the dire performance, we are discussing the manager's negative approach to the game and was it really necessary? Defend and Counter yes, but did we need to be so negative? Anyway.

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17 Oct 2017 22:04:19
He set up solid and to hit them on the break, like a lot of people suggested.
It never work, after 32 goals in the previous 10 games the front line had a mare .
But it was no where near as negative as last season .
Jose kept a solid line up against a good attacking team .
The dire performance has as much to do with the players poor performance as it does the managers .
And the same goes for the previous 10 games .

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18 Oct 2017 16:49:37
Whilst Mourinho's set up was undoubtedly to ensure that the team left Anfield without conceding, I was surprised at how little bite Liverpool actually had. Other than the De Gea save (and subsequent follow up by Salah) and the Can effort, I can't see recall too many chances. As the home team and one of the leagues most attacking managers and teams, the tactics to replace the front 3 and keep Henderson, Can and Winjaldum in place was strange. In that sense I think Klopp accepted the draw also.

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19 Oct 2017 12:05:32
I think we set up knowing you'd be defensive and very good in the air so klopp didn't want to be caught by a corner last minute, we had a load of chances we just couldn't finish, the game was played in your half. An open game would have suited us better and with your recent form compared to ours, we could have been there for the taking. You actually trying to hammer us, as I believed you were capable, would have meant are more open game which would have suited us too, so we could have had a big scoring game, instead Jose sat 11 men in his own half. You were more than capable fo getting a win but didn't even try. For the neutrals out there an early Liverpool goal would have made the game better to watch because Jose would have had to come out of his own half. If I were a United fan I would have been disappointed with the game because it was a feable attempt by united but you got a point after all which any other time would seem a good point.

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20 Oct 2017 21:24:20
Load of chances! Lol.

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21 Oct 2017 10:17:19
Deano, I think they had 19 attempts, that's loads.

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13 Oct 2017 11:11:27
Ed002 can i ask you if manchester united have a serious interest in signing danny rose? And if so do you think a move would be possible in jan?
It would be pretty high risk imo as he has not played since last jan and had a knee op in may i think. a really good player at his best but can he recapture that form? Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - Yes Ken, Manchester United are very keen on Danny Rose and would like a deal in January - whether or not Spurs will be open to that I don't know at this time, but for the right deal I suspect they may be.}

13 Oct 2017 12:46:10
Thanks ed.

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13 Oct 2017 14:18:12
Does that mean Mourinho has given up on shaw or atleast he doesn't see the improvement in him which he expected.

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{Ed002's Note - I would not read anything like that in to the interest Singh.}

13 Oct 2017 16:40:28
Jose does like two good players in each position. And maybe he feels a challenge might spark him into life.

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14 Oct 2017 07:33:28
Oh okay thanks ed.

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{Ed002's Note - Remember in the summer Rose was injured so it makes sense to look again. The other two he likes are young - Aaron Martin from Espanyol (be a giant step up) and Kieran Tierney (not available).}

14 Oct 2017 08:33:17
What about Tierney at Celtic ed? Is there any interest there?

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{Ed002's Note - A number of clubs have shown interest including MU, but he is not the target.}

14 Oct 2017 15:39:55
Manchester United will stick with what hey have defensively as I've heard, rose will Be too costly and Tierney is waiting for his preferred club as o have heard, but who knows money talks.

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14 Oct 2017 14:25:19
Sorry ed. The post above Tierney wasn't there when I asked the question.

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{Ed002's Note - No problem.}

13 Oct 2017 01:50:28
In the summer they were interest from Manutd for Fabinho, I would like to sk if is he still an option or the interest have gone?

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{Ed001's Note - still an option and he still wants a move.}

13 Oct 2017 04:54:22
Thanks Ed001.

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{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate.}

12 Oct 2017 09:00:18
Would people be happy if Mourinho signs an extention at the end of the season? .

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12 Oct 2017 11:01:05
Right now we seem to be moving in the right direction. Winning and scoring goals.
But we started off great last season as well and hardly played a top team this season so far.
So let’s wait a little longer on this, I would say.

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12 Oct 2017 13:01:17
Contracts mean virtually nothing in this scenario, we could just pay him off if we wanted him gone as we did with LVG and Moyes. Alternatively he could just walk at any time as he has so much money now. More important for players than managers imo.

I'd just give rolling 1 year contracts anyway. You only want a manager that is happy to work at the club, and why handicap yourself to paying compensation if they aren't good enough or their heart isn't in it? So I wouldn't extend anything long term, just at the end of each season I'd assess the performance and say ok we think you are worth X amount for another 12 months and here are your targets, take it or Grump off! I'd also only pay a nominal basic, but huge bonuses on achieving the objectives. That way a confident manager will back himself and drive it for the big payday. I'd also do that with players, you only want the ones that truly believe they will do as they claim they will.

It will only take a couple of the top clubs to do this and everyone else will fall in line. No longer will wages be out of control for failures, only the best will be rewarded and kids won't be crippled before they start their careers with ridiculous money without delivering anything.

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12 Oct 2017 13:04:18
Yes. You can see the progression of the side and that we actually have a plan for now and the future.
We would all love Sir Alex back but what we now need is stability and so long as Mourinho does not have a 3rd season blow up we will be okay.

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12 Oct 2017 13:57:55
I think we would have a very successful spell in the clubs history if Jose stays for 8-10 years, if we keep improving the quality of players as we have so far under him and continuing to improve the youth system he will leave us in a good position and success on the pitch would relate to even more success financially, i am very excited for the future of our club and think the team is in capable hands.

As Beast says though, contract don't mean a great deal in the current game, although as it stands I can't see a better manager out there for us and can't see a better club out there for Jose so all good as it stands.

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12 Oct 2017 14:25:30
Thanks guys and i feel the same . There isn't any one better out there and he is doing well.

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13 Oct 2017 15:04:50
I agree that contracts be for the manager or the player never dictate whether the manager or player stays or not but what it does ensure is some protection that if they were to go due to their own decision or they were approached by another club, we would get a fairer deal rather than if they only have 1 year left on their contract.

I also think if Mourinho signs an extension it signifies the clubs intent for longevity and consistency with the project which may appeal to future transfer targets. RVP was a prime example who came to play for Sir Alex and was left gutted when he retired the following year.

Unfortunately this doesn't always work, David Moyes, but s a different level, a different beast to Moyes so I think him signing a long term contract is a good signal. I also believe this is the job he will stay in longer than any of his previous jobs, I can see him staying for a good 6 to 8 years at United.

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11 Oct 2017 21:49:52
scholes interviewed for the Oldham job.

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07 Oct 2017 09:48:30
Eds could you confirm if we are really going for Emre Can? I'd be really surprised if we are.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach.}

07 Oct 2017 21:50:19
can-'t be true, Most Pool supporters i talk to would love to see the back of him, not United pedigree.

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07 Oct 2017 22:51:48
He is a very talented midfielder that has been messed around with his playing position.

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08 Oct 2017 09:40:00
He came over here highly regarded and ultimately has disappointed.

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08 Oct 2017 03:46:40
Thanks Ed002.

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13 Oct 2017 09:51:16
Most pool supporters would love to see the back of him? You must be talking to some ****ed up fans then. I think most pool fans would like to see him sign a new contract.

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07 Oct 2017 10:23:29
Linked today with signing Phil Neville's son. Anyone know anything about him?

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07 Oct 2017 11:31:17
He's Gary Neville's nephew.

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07 Oct 2017 12:41:42
Neville Nevilles grandson.

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07 Oct 2017 12:56:13
He was originally in the man city academy and now plays for valencia youth team. He is highly thought of by all accounts.

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09 Oct 2017 14:14:29
Tracey Neville's nephew as well.

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06 Oct 2017 09:19:13
Any truth in Utd looking at Jack Harrison. Is this just paper talk?

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03 Oct 2017 21:35:05
For the way jose sets up his team a player of his type is fundamental to the set up. There are not many better players of his type anywhere. casimeriro at mafrid is another.

Its a role very under valued by many its only when you see a player playing the role as well as matic plays it that you appeeciate what it can bring to a team.
I think he has been great so far. He is one of the real specialists in the squad where we don't have a direct replacement in the squad. Carrick is the closest i suppose but he is not as aggresive. I have seen it mentioned here that TFM might be his understudy I the long-term.

In his role he is one of the best in the world so in todays market we got him at a great price.

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04 Oct 2017 10:38:15
Great player. I can't understand why Chelsea let him go. and Mata.
And kevin d. b. why the left him go.
That's 3 players that would make Chelsea favourites for the title.

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{Ed002's Note - Matic wanted to leave and Chelsea are not a club to stand in the way of a player leaving should an acceptable offer be made. Mata was not wanted by Mourinho because he did not see him doing what was asked of him on the defensive side - so they moved him on. de Bruyne acted like a petulent child and whined a lot - and wanted guarantees of first team football which Chelsea don't give. There was a very good offer and they moved him on.}

04 Oct 2017 11:14:13
Cheers ed. understandable reasons.

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