1.) 19 Aug 2014
Tbh I'd take Carvalho right now. Because if we keep "trying" for Vidal we could end up with nobody for that position. And if that happens. We will finish 7th again.


2.) 19 Aug 2014
I would not be surprised if in the discussions Carvallho was not brought up, maybe low fee for Rojo (Nani on loan) and greater fee for Carvallho.
Would allow us to get the players we want, Sporting to get a good deal with less whilst the necessary money passing to 75% owners?
Who knows


3.) 19 Aug 2014
Can't find it. Do you have a link?


4.) 19 Aug 2014
19 Aug 2014 22:28:24
Yeah I'm with Matt on all that, definitely take cavarlho if we can't get Vidal and if we don't get either or someone else decent out of the blue in that position I reckon we'll be closer to the 7th than top 4.


5.) 20 Aug 2014
Rojo's low fee is a clever bit of business for Sporting. They will only receive 25% of the transfer fee afterall.

If we had paid £12 million (i.e. the 16m euros that was expected for Rojo, ) Sporting would have received £3 million.

The present fee of £7 million means Sporting receive £1.75 million.

In other words, the loss of the potential £12 million fee, was only worth £1.25 million to Sporting anyway. Considering the Nani loan itself is probably worth £1-2million, this transfer starts to make sense. (- If Nani is worth £10 million, and has 5 years of good football left, his loan value is roughly £2million/year.)

It seems fairly obvious that this is why the fee for Rojo is so low. He has just come out of a world cup where he started every match, and played in the final for one of the best international sides. These Portuguese teams are notoriously difficult to negotiate with at the best of times. The low fee is surely connected to the fact that there was never much in it financially for Sporting.

I think the idea of using this model to work out a deal for William Carvalho is interesting. Carvalho is 40% owned by a Portuguese investment bank. Its likely one of the reasons that they keep pointing at his buyout clause. 60% ownership is obviously a fair bit more than 25%(as with Rojo, ) but nonetheless there is still only £22million profit for Sporting if Carvalho's huge buyout clause is met, which seems highly unlikely.

Player swaps in the form of Loans and future fees could ironically allow Sporting to get more out of their ownership of Carvalho than cash alone, just as they seem to have done with Rojo. Its a shame we got rid of Bebe, but there is still Rafael and even Hernandez that would possibly suit Sporting, aswell as Nani and Anderson.


6.) 20 Aug 2014
I really hope this is true. Him blind, another cb and winger (possibly depay) and I'd be very happy