24 Oct 2013 12:55:17
What Giggs is doing is breath-taking for a 40 year old. But what people need to do is forget who Giggs is/was and look at the performance of the player not the name or the "records" he breaks every time he wakes up. If Cleverly or Anderson had performed identical to Giggs last night, there wouldn't be a mention. Just another also ran.

Lets put Steve Redgrave back in the Olympic rowing team because he would be amazing for a 50+ year old! It doesn't matter if the other rowers have to carry him, he still looks good collected the medal and jumping in the water at the end, such energy, what a guy, another record!

What about the 50 other British rowers that deserve their chance and would do a far better job?!

Why isn't Anderson or some youngster getting a game, playing Giggs is holding everything up? Even Smalling at the back and Jones into midfield to give them games. I fail to understand the logic in people saying they were wrong about Giggs etc, we could have had Usain Bolt on the wing last night and it wouldn't have made much difference. We were playing against a very poor team.

It's exactly the same when it comes to Chelsea with Lampard and Liverpool with Gerrard - it's also getting to be that way with Rooney. The media darlings, whenever they give it away the commentator or journalist skips that part and just talks about the "amazing strike", "powerful run", "Master-Class". It's lazy and transparent. Rooney was awful against Southampton yet he is in a great vain of form, unstoppable, everything he does is great. Yes he has been playing well on the whole, but how many goals has he scored from open play this season?! How much of our game is ran through him because all of our players are told to look for Rooney first? It's so misleading. The commentators kept on talking about how everything good we do comes through Rooney, that's because every player has to feed Rooney and he plays as an advanced playmaker! It's like saying every great save that is made seems to always be by our goalkeeper, strange that.

Soon we will have a team full of Giggs-esque players. Rio read it well for a 35 year old, Vidic heads it so far for a 34 year old, Evra bombs forward well for a 34 year old, Carrick does nothing well for a 35 year old etc etc etc. I haven't looked up their ages, but we can't simply look past the bigger picture because of what these guys are doing compared to other people their age, it needs to be compared to the best of the best in their early-mid 20's!

Good result that we needed desperately, but still not as good as the Leverkusen game.

1.) 24 Oct 2013
And the award for the most bitter post goes to Mr Sween.
Well done son

Credit where it's due springs to mind

2.) 24 Oct 2013
I'm not bitter. I'm just stating what most people have been saying for the past few months and adding my own spin. A half decent performance against below average opposition doesn't make everything ok.

Giggs in midfield is a fiasco - as we witnessed on Saturday. That's realism, basing my views on what I have seen, rather than changing my opinion over night.

3.) 25 Oct 2013
MrSween is not bitter just a realist.Yes Giggs did well against Real Sociadad but was crap against Southampton.It is a fact that his poor games outnumber his good ones many times.We have had a problem competing against good teams for a while now.What saddens me the most, is how many Utd fans seem to think we are still a force in world football.We are not a great side anymore just a team capable on a good day of great performances.We have not had a great performance in a long while.We are however a great club and hopefully we will get back to being a powerful team in world football sooner rather than later.