27 Aug 2014 10:00:15
Wow, what an overreaction. Anyone would think it was our first team beaten by MK Dons.

Watched the chances at both ends again and Hernandez couldn't hit a barn door.

He's never been the greatest unless it's a tap-in, but he couldn't even do that last night.

I don't think he looks very happy, I think we need to let him move to Juve for his own good.

Wilson did well with what little chances he got. A major plus point. Want to see him in the 1st team.

Evans had a shocker, our most senior player and the worst on the pitch bar none. Shocker!

I think the Rojo transfer has been justified. If people were wondering why we bought him.

Big game on Saturday, a game that we need to win comfortably. Although injuries aren't great.

Rojo still waiting for work permit, Shaw and Herrera injured. Smalling injured, enter Evans :(

At least we will have a full set available upfront. Adnan, Mata, Rooney, Van Persie & Di Maria.

The rumoured next two wanted by MU are Blind and Vidal. How much could we do with them now?


1.) 27 Aug 2014
Usually I am one to get wound up and frustrated following a result like that, and for some reason this time round I am remarkably calm. I think last night LVG picked that team, so that they could have one last chance to prove themselves. Kagawa, Chicharito, Welbeck, Powell, Anderson etc all likely to be out the door by next Monday after that either on loan or sold.
I have accepted that this season will be a nothing season for us, we can hope for top 4, but I think it will all click into place next season for us. By that time all new players will have settled, and hopefully they will all be comfortable in the system LVG wants to play.

Also nothing better than being a UTD fan following a result like that. Fans of other teams suddenly pour out of the woodwork


2.) 27 Aug 2014
27 Aug 2014 10:40:27
Syd you reckon there's any chance Rojo will get the permit by the end of the week?
Also I thought Powell was decent, but for some reason I could see him being a striker, over a CM.

Still think we need another experienced CB anyway. Vidal and Blind would turn the midfield around completely.

The game was probably a bit of a wake up call for the likes of Evans and Anderson, maybe they will react well to it, but really that was a shocker and it's hard to imagine their Manchester United careers recovering from that performance. Especially since they were fringe players anyway.


3.) 27 Aug 2014
Good post syd I am getting battered at work today by people that don't even watch football! My personal fav was on sky when they rushed Dean lewington into the studio to discuss "the result of a lifetime" pathetic honestly :)


4.) 27 Aug 2014
I agree with all that Syd but what I can't get my head around is why LvG picked that team then comes out and says he wasn't shocked etc as soon as the 2nd goal went in he should of changed formation it was clear to anybody with just 1 half working eye that it wasn't working and the players were really struggling with it he should of changed the formation and while we probably still would of last because the players were atrocious last night it might have saved us from the embarrassing manner of the defeat. I for one do not believe in this so called philosophy whilst he stubbornly stick to a formation that the players are just not getting they have been practicing this since may(some for longer then others I admit) but we seem to be getting worse by the game we do not have the players for it if he is so hell bent on playing our so called best 3 players up front then he should just go for it and try to out score the opposition because at the moment apart from blackett and occasionally jones our defenders look like they have never seen a football before let alone play the game at a high standard


5.) 27 Aug 2014
Sambo, I couldn't agree more. Last night was good in one respect.

LvG now knows which players have a future at the club and which one's don't.

I don't think we will see Anderson ever again in a MU shirt. Never again.

Welbeck, Kagawa, Hernandez, Anderson, Vermijl in the shop window.

Zaha and Will Keane didn't even make it on the pitch. Powell & M.Keane loans.

So I think if MU got their own way the above players will be sold or loaned.

Fellaini would be on this list too had he not hurt his ankle. Clev & Fletch next summer.


6.) 27 Aug 2014
Red79, the goals were due to individual errors. A couple big one's from Evans. And he could have gave away a penalty. I don't think yesterday's showing will have any effect on LvG's 352 plans as it was a completely different team out bar De Gea, but one problem with playing three at the back this weekend could be only having Jones and Blackett fit and playing well. Keane was decent in the first half, but struggled in the second half. We already know about Evans. Will he play Evans this weekend after last night? So with Smalling's injury it only leaves us with Blackett and Jones. So if we play with three at the back this weekend, then we can safely say once and for all, that he will stick with the 352 at least for this season, simply because if he was going to change to a 433, this would be the time to do it.

Covey, I do see him getting granted a work permit eventually.


7.) 27 Aug 2014
It was a shocking result .
It could be down to a number of excuses / reasons but at the end if the day it was the MK dons against united


8.) 27 Aug 2014
27 Aug 2014 11:50:06
I think we lost because they scored more goals than us.


9.) 27 Aug 2014
The problem is Syd that every team in the league knows how to beat us while we are playing this formation it just isn't working if we don't beat Burnley (no offence to Burnley) then can we start to worry? we are lucky that we haven't played chelsea for example because I could honestly see them getting close to double figures at least if he goes back to a formation that the players are familiar with then the players don't have to spend so much time worrying if they are in the correct areas etc and can concentrate on actually playing football LvG is lauded as a tactical genius but so far one of the biggest failings IS his tactics(ironic isn't it) he is making the error of trying to force the team into a formation rather then picking a formation that complements the players we have at his disposal we all lamented fergie and then moyes for playing people out of position but then we are supposed to show patience when lvg does it.


10.) 27 Aug 2014
Jred, very true. But this isn't anything new.

2006 - Southend 1.0 MU. (Rooney & Ronaldo played)

1995 - MU 0.3 York City. (at OT)

1991 - Sheff Wed 1.0 MU.

2003 - West Brom 2.0 MU. (first division at the time)

2007 - MU 0.2 Coventry.

2005 - Exeter 0.0 MU (non-league at the time)

2006 - Burton Albion 0.0 MU (non-league at the time).

2004 - MU 0.3 Fenerbache.

2010 - MU 0.1 Leeds. (Championship side)

2011 - Crystal Palace 2.1 MU. (Championship side)

I am sure there are more shocks. But no overreaction with these games. The fact remains that yesterday wasn't our first choice team.


11.) 27 Aug 2014
Red79, this isn't my favourite formation by a long-shot, but with the correct personnel and played properly it can be a very good formation. At the moment LvG is trying to bring in his personnel and trying to implement this new style, but it will not happen overnight. Before LvG even signed for MU I think it was myself and Pardoe discussing how we will not start to see the best of MU until Christmas time. Then LvG comes out and says it will take three months. LvG will need time with his new signings and he will get time. LvG has a plan and he has the respect of the players so he will be given time by the club. If this form continues after the new players are playing and injuries improve, then as stubborn as he is, he will change it. Swansea was p1ss poor, Sunderland was poor, but they aren't mugs at their ground. Last night was fringe and youth players. If we get a good win at Burnley and win our next few games, then all of this will be forgotten. But it's not going to be easy, give it time. We have the right man at the helm IMO and I am going to enjoy this transition. Hopefully we will look back at this and laugh.


12.) 27 Aug 2014
Syd
and what
so its ok,


13.) 27 Aug 2014
I see no reason to flap about it. Yes it was a poor performance and shocking score line. But LVG was relatively calm about it, because it was the kids and fringe players. Fergie did the same with this competition. The only worry I DID have was the performance of Evans, I think he was appalling. Evans was billed as saviour when Smalling and Jones were poor against Swansea. We need a top CB and some leaders there.


14.) 27 Aug 2014
Jred, no it's not okay, but it was not our first choice outfield, so people need to move on. Most of those players will never play for MU again if the club got their own way.


15.) 27 Aug 2014
Sambo, Evans has always had a mistake or five in him. We do need a Hummels, but for whatever reason we will not pay what it takes. Benatia has gone now. There is talk of Blind and Vidal, but I think we would all prefer Vidal and Hummels. But Rome wasn't built in a day and Blackett has been impressive. Blind can play CB, Rojo is still to come in. Perhaps if we cab get Blind and Vidal in, then we can look at Cuadrado and Hummels next summer? The editor did say it will take three windows.


16.) 27 Aug 2014
It was a shocking performance result .
manchester united where Stuffed by a a third tier team.
its happened in the past it may well happen in the future but that doesn't change the fact it was a shocking result .
some people will try to make excuses others will accept it for what it was a very poor performance .


17.) 27 Aug 2014
Really Syd

You have a short memory because last year people went ballistic for a fraction of what we saw yesterday.

Since when is it an overreaction when you have 7 internationals on the pitch against a 3rd tier team and get humped 4-0. Completely unacceptable if you ask me.

He is an ego maniac if he is insisting on a back 3 when players like Smalling and Jones are clearly not suited for it and a mistake waiting to happen.

Everyone is pressing the ball in the league nowadays and playing a back only results in us hoofing it upfield or getting caught defensively.

Madness if you ask me and no good if we are 15 points adrift by christmas no matter how much we keep spending and who else comes in.

God help us as we have not even played any of the top half of the table teams, the opposing managers must be licking their chops.


18.) 27 Aug 2014
Syd, a United team with players like De Gea, Evans, Anderson, Kagawa, Hernandez, Welbeck and Januzaj should beat a league 1 Mk Dons side comfortably, LvG talks the talk but he can't walk the walk, he can't even string a sentence together, he speaks in riddles.


19.) 27 Aug 2014
Of that team last night De Gea Evans Wilson Keane and Peirrera should stay all the rest can go now we all know why Vermij and Janko were not brought on the tour


20.) 27 Aug 2014
Jred, who said it wasn't a shocking result and performance? I certainly never. Seems to me you are just trying to start one of your little bitchy arguments as per usual. Well it isn't going to happen today. The lads on this page do not want to read our regurgitated nonsense over and over again. It was a poor result and poor performance, but it was a mixed bag with players in the shop window, a player coming back from injury and a bunch of kids. Should we have done better? Yes of course, did we? No. Time to move onto the next game and hope our first team don't have a similar result.


21.) 27 Aug 2014
There is that word again though Syd HOPE our next game is against Burnley and no disrespect but we should be thinking how many 4/5/6 perhaps more but instead we are just hoping that something clicks and we can actually get a goal and maybe just maybe a win


22.) 27 Aug 2014
The thing that shocked me most was the substitute selection. SAF would often name a weakened side but have insurance on the bench.

Just think, if we get a tough draw in the FA Cup we could have a 40 game season. Anyone have any idea when that last happened. ?