27 Jan 2017 12:50:11
So obviously all a bit underwhelmed with the performance last night, a tricky Christmas period which we got through unscathed has clearly left the players a little jaded and a few look like they need a rest.

In my opinion Valencia has been our most consistent player this season and I felt we missed him last night, Darmian is steady but absolutely awful going forward and every attack ends once it gets to him. Rojo was not much better on the other side and if Shaw isn't going to play (which hopefully he will when he wins his place back on Sunday) then I would prefer Blind on that side. Hopefully the rest for Toni will help going into the next set of fixtures.

Our normal formation when Carrick plays allows for a back 3 with the full backs creating all the width and the strikers pushing inside. Without the attack from the full backs that meant Rashford was too wide all the time and despite playing very well and beating his man was always too far away from the centre to do much and his full back was rarely in the right place to back him up. Not really Rojo's fault as he has proved he is not a left back on many occasions.

I expect a few more rested on Sunday with the league game on Wednesday and I expect Hull to give us a decent game again on Wednesday, it's easy to say they are 'the worst team in the league' but when they are fighting for their lives no team is a pushover and I thought some of their passing and general play over both legs of the semi final was admirable and there is a huge improvement from them under this very likeable new manager that could help them stay up if they stop selling all his best players!

We haven't been great recently as has been pointed out with a lot of hyperbole and overreaction, but we have shown that we can play great football and you can see that we are looking to do that even if it's not been coming off so much in recent games. Another long unbeaten run is needed now and we have the players to do it so let's hope we do, if not then hope we all get behind the team like the fans did last night, hearing them singing all through the game was immense and great to hear that support.

Hope this post isn't too positive and optimistic for anyone.

1.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 13:06:49
O dear I feel this post is going to get shot down very quickly!
I dipped into the live chat just to be nosey whilst watching the game, some of the quotes I saw were hilarious, GDS2 you seemed to loose the plot a bit with MAZE (who in all fairness was on a wind up) I think people forget how bad we have played in previous years and teams who have beaten us.
Step back and take s look at the big picture have we improved? Are we going in the right direction? Will we finish top four? And will there be silver wear? i'm CONFIDENT get behind the team things are nowhere as bad as some like to think.

2.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 13:16:42
Good levelled post gds. Don't disagree with anything there.

Hopefully those players get a good rest. We have a very hide run in

3.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 13:34:30
Of course it's not as bad as people make it out Simon. We were 14 games unbeaten, there are 6 points between 2-6 in the table, we are in a league cup final, still fa cup and Europa league. We seem to be in great shape with regards to injuries.

Yes we have been wasteful at times, Jose can't put them in the net, but overall we are playing much better football and seem to be on the right track. I am really happy with how everything is going and I look forward to the rest of the season.

4.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 13:36:20
I loved the chat when it first started and I sometimes go on before the games start but once we kick off I steer clear as it gets too emotional and childish for me. I know passions run high but sometimes I wonder how people manage to get through life

{Ed007's Note - It's a cesspit of whining children, AJH and is due a clear out. The chat was set up to let people have a bit of craic and discuss during the match and all it is now is whining little bitches taking snide digs at each other.
If the clear out kills it off then so be it.}

5.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 13:57:57
I enjoy the live chat, of course you will get a few people that get personal as it's raw, but I just try to ignore that. On the whole the mood on their tends to reflect the performance the team puts on.

Some of us have a good chat and banter on there, especially when it's quiet with just 4-5 people posting for most of the game. Towards the end of games it livens up a bit and that's when people maybe go a bit OTT to get themselves heard. But on the whole it's a great way to talk about things quickly and the vast majority of people are polite to their fellow posters.

I agree there are a few that antagonize but others are quick to police it if it goes too far imo.

6.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 13:53:38
Good post on the whole GDS2, nice to be in agreement.

7.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 13:53:41
Ed007 does it happen that much? Clear outs on the site that is

{Ed007's Note - I noticed it on the Liverpool chat the other night, even slagging Ed001 and Ed002 and the sites, so I booted and banned a couple of posters from it and there was a couple on the Utd chat too. If people are wasting it by trolling and abusing other posters they'll be banned from it.}

8.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 13:56:02
I apologise if I offended anyone in the live chat last night and I'll admit I did lose it but what was happening wasn't banter or chat it was people just moaning and I presume trying to wind people up. I'm fairly sure that isn't what it was set up for and I just decided to leave until later in the game when surprisingly it had calmed down because we had equalised.

I can see the bad things that are happening and I'm fairly sure our manager can as well so hopefully they will sort it out and the performances will improve again as they did after the last defeat.

{Ed007's Note - Spot on, GD. It's just one big knee jerk reaction mate which is fine I suppose, people are only saying on there what would be going through their head just watching the game but some get far too personal at times and others just see it as a chance to have pops at other posters.
As soon as Utd went down there was rubbish like 'Oh that'll be X happy' 'There's X, only comes on when things aren't going well' etc It's as if some people want to see Utd losing just so they can have a pop at other posters and it's the same bollocks over and over and over......
It's actually meant to be fun - can you believe that?}

9.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 14:03:55
Good post GDS2 by the way, I did say that before the above but it didn't make it on.

10.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 14:20:16
Jaime done it for me. can't be bothered would rather watch or if in UK go to game. All God's children (well almost) 😆😆

11.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 14:30:32
Beast,

You only need to say it once mate, I'll be getting a complex ;)

12.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 14:39:52
haha I cringe for myself.

13.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 14:39:58
During the last game of last season someone called me a four letter word beginning with c. Here's a tip for anyone who thinks it isn't that bad. Don't go on until 30 minutes into a game we aren't winning and read the posts, it's almost trolling on occasions.

It was a great idea and started off really well but just because a thought flashed into your head doesn't mean you have to type it, some people don't seem to have a filter

{Ed007's Note - 30 mins! Go on after 10 and you'll see players getting pelters, endless posts of who should have started because so and so's not done anything yet and abuse being thrown at posters that dare to disagree.
A lot of people seem to be confused about the difference between the live chat and the forum pages, the live chat is meant to be light hearted fun and chat/discussion during the game, if you want to constantly girn and moan do it on the forum where we can pap it on the Other page.}

14.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 14:55:14
Last season the word TOXIC was mentioned in response to some fans and posters, I was genuinely offended by this label. Now I fully understand.

15.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 15:47:15
Was not on last night was it that bad?

16.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 15:51:41
martial got a lot of abuse before ko .
i didn't think it was that bad during the match . only caught the second half of the chat tho

17.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 15:53:48
"not that bad " should prob have said not as bad as normal.
to be fair bit of a poor performance last night

18.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 17:43:23
Go on at the beginning to say hello then leave it isn't worth the aggro a shame really it was a brilliant idea that started out great and then was just used as a forum to slag off the bad flavour of the day.

19.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 17:57:04
I think a lot of its just having a good aul moan. I would hate to think anyone takes it too seriously. Some of the stuff on the page under LVG was hilarious - what we were watching was so bad that we just had to laugh at it. There may be criticism of our play or a particular player - usually its Fellaini - but I always got the impression it was done with a certain degree of 'gallows' humour. I'd hate to think we were going to have to create 'safe places' where the more easily offended can go and comment on the game without fear of being upset. I hear a lot worse at the actual ground on a match day, to be honest. Apart from Jaime. You can ban him :)

20.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 19:06:00
Definitely with you Noucamp about Jaime. 😆😆

21.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 19:17:46
99
i think its when it takes over the chat, fellaini is a good example, there will be a match on but the chat will be 90 minutes of fellaini bashing, no matter how he plays .

poor performance last night but yhe chat wasnt that bad but can you imagine if the wig was playing and we played like that.
everyone turns in to jamie

22.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 18:56:37
I couldn't get on live chat last nite, did i get banned for something

{Ed025's Note - if you were banned leahy i dont think you would be on here now mate, but i will inquire for you..

23.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 20:16:25
Cheers ed. i couldn't get on it, and i have never used bad language or insulted anyone on there, i'd have a laugh and a bit of banter, thought it was for being on the liverpool chat, myself and another united poster had a bit of banter on there, but that was it, even though i was called a filthy manc. lol. i gave back a bit but i didn't insult anyone or wouldn't get personal with anyone

{Ed025's Note - i believe you mate, our IT guy is not about at the moment but i should have news in the morning ..

24.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 20:32:44
Yeah, Leahy. I reported you, mate. For your crap jokes. Sorry about that.

{Ed025's Note - i thought it would be something like that noucamp.. :)

25.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 20:36:41
Totally agree, jred. Pretty embarrassing sometimes. As Tony said up above, people these days feel the need to type down the first thing that comes into their head, rather than taking a deep breath and counting to ten. Personally, I like a yarn at the start, then watch the football, and come back at half and full-time.

26.) 27 Jan 2017
27 Jan 2017 20:57:30
Cheers 99 at least your honest

27.) 28 Jan 2017
28 Jan 2017 09:31:56
I must admit to nearly quitting live chat for good during the Hull game and would welcome action by the Ed. If we are not playing stellar football, winning by more than one goal or heaven forbid go a goal down the outpouring of stuff needs to be seen to be believed.

28.) 28 Jan 2017
28 Jan 2017 19:04:01
Good post GDS.
That's a big part of why Carrick is so important to us.
We are having a slight blip but it was always going to happen as a winning run can't go on forever.
Still heading in the right direction. All is good