06 Nov 2017 07:06:09
Two players i wish to have a discussion on based not on what we saw yesterday but over the past 45 days or so. Herrera and Mkhitaryan. Mkhi started way too well but has gone off the boil ever since Pogba got injured. Why couldn't Mata play there instead of him. Even Lingard gives more. He never closes down players. doesn't even challenge for the 50-50s. Its like he is doing us a favor by being on the pitch. I admire the player but his attitude on the pitch is in serious question.

Herrera- can't blv he was player of the year. He has been serious crap. He gives nothing on the pitch other than being the 10th player on the pitch (11th is Mkhi) . I thought once he got his chance post Pogba's injury, he would grab it. He has done nothing at all to justify his inclusion. Nothing in attack and nothing in defence and just gives away useless fouls. Matic just has to do the work for two players himself. He isn't superhuman and needs support. Herrera at the moment isn't doing enough.

These type of performances would be there when we have passengers on the pitch. No wonder Jose moans about missing Fellaini and Pogba. Someone needs to shove their boot up their asses on the pitch. What i would give to have Roy Keane on the pitch to witness these players. For now may be Zlatan could do that.


1.) 06 Nov 2017
06 Nov 2017 07:40:54
So now we are blaming mkhi and Herrera not only for their bad performances but also for being picked because apparently mkhi and Herrera now pick themselves in the 11, wonder what mourinho does then?


2.) 06 Nov 2017
06 Nov 2017 08:02:21
Remember when it was all fellaini fault.


3.) 06 Nov 2017
06 Nov 2017 09:01:56
Moyes go wash your face and read the post. Or tell me that they are playing brilliantly well and i am readimg the game wrong.


4.) 06 Nov 2017
06 Nov 2017 09:34:48
Shan you need to wash eyes and read what you have written.

You are blaming mkhi and Herrera for yesterday while also saying that they have been poor for months. If they have been poor for months why are they still starting and since your post doesn't mention the man picking them laying the blame squarely on the players so I just took the logical conclusion that the players must be picking themselves.


5.) 06 Nov 2017
06 Nov 2017 09:38:08
Nobody is saying they are playing well but your scathing assessment is a little harsh. Still, at least you've moved on from Rashford.


6.) 06 Nov 2017
06 Nov 2017 10:31:21
Jeez Moyes, "based not on yesterdays performance" means not based on yesterdays performance. If you don't believe what i wrote, go through the pages buddy and my sentiments have been echoed.

Tony, i still have my reservations with Rashford but i have taken in what everybody has said here, he is young and needs time. let's see where he is 12 months from now.


7.) 06 Nov 2017
06 Nov 2017 11:14:41
Shan but the question still remains the same, i have not said they have performed well, i have been criticizing mkhi for this performances even when he was padding his performances with stats and everyone was gushing about him. But when do you stop blaming the players and start blaming the manager for picking a player who has been consistently rubbish. This is like LVG and rooney and fair few here including me blamed lvg as well as rooney for that, you seem to be only blaming the players, which i feel is unfair.


8.) 06 Nov 2017
06 Nov 2017 13:13:38
Buddy its the manager's fault to pick Mkhi. Agreed. And that's why i said "play Mata" or even Lingard. But who do you play if not Herrera. There are no midfielders available. Herrera needed to pick his game up to challenge Pogba or even Fellaini. He has just gone backwards. Players are at fault. You can't even blame the tactics yesterday and say Jose didn't go for it. The players didn't perform, yet again.


9.) 06 Nov 2017
06 Nov 2017 14:13:20
Mctominay and martial could have started ahead of Herrera and mkhi. We don't have a good lb thus the back 3, not targeting a lb in summer was mourinho's fault. Liverpool and yesterday's games proved exactly why morata would have been a better signing for mourinho's tactics than lukaku, again mourinho's fault. The fact that until we are losing and have 30-35 mins left rash and martial can't play together, mourinho's fault.

You talk tactics and having a go what did we create that any credit should be given to mourinho for it. They had rudiger a player who shits his bed every time a quick tricky player has a go at him, martial was not even allowed to have a go at him, poor tactics again mourinho's fault.


10.) 06 Nov 2017
06 Nov 2017 14:18:42
Why can't you blame the tactics? Thought conte got it right yesterday, managed to get 4 players in cm yesterday, isolated the front 2 and controlled the game through midfield .
United had a go (Which everyone has gone on about ) and looked all over the place played right in to Chelsea hands .
We got our tactics right against spurs and wrong against Chelsea, really poor team performance yesterday .

What happened to the " I don't care if we get beat as long as we have a go "attitude .


11.) 06 Nov 2017
06 Nov 2017 14:52:23
That's simply not my attitude jred. I want a win. A dire borefest 1-0 does nicely for me. Did Jose tie Martial's legs with a shoe lace before putting him on? You got to blame the players where its due. They were hopeless. By tactics i meant he did what the fans were crying for and not what he wanted to do.

But as i said earlier, people don't like Jose and will simply put everything at his doorstep. Moyes obviously is right there at the top of that haters list.

Lukaku and Mkhi were world beaters before the international break and now signing him was Jose's fault. People like you wait for us to lose so that you can say i told you so. Losers.


12.) 06 Nov 2017
06 Nov 2017 17:03:53
Shan i and xfiles were wondering during live match chat why martial was playing on the right rather than left and unless much like mkhi and hererra picking themselves martial just decided he fancied playing on right yesterday mourinho might have something to do with it too.

Also go back and see my match chat view of mkhi you will find i never considered him good enough let alone world beater, lukaku is a decent player but he needs chances put on a plate for him to score, not to mention he gets easily bullied in the air, lacks good first touch and hold up skills all of which are essential skills for a mourinho striker with his 10 men behind the ball approach from time to time. Just compare drogba, milito and benzema you will find they have more in common with morata than they do with lukaku, its not hate its facts, sadly mourinho fanboys don't like anyone criticizing their Great Manager.