19 Mar 2018 15:44:27
I've no problem with jose berating players but believe it should be done in house and think he should except some of the blame after all he picks the team and decides the tactics, its turning into the jose show and making himself and the club look bad, if you were a top player and saw what was happening would you sign for Utd.

1.) 19 Mar 2018
19 Mar 2018 16:06:29
i don't see the problem with it, if you can quite happily take home 500k a week, i'm sure you can handle a bit of a roasting when your not performing.

managers are the ones that take all the stick, about time the players take some as well.

2.) 19 Mar 2018
19 Mar 2018 16:28:32
Players take plenty of stick, and I'm not sure how earning more money somehow makes you better equipped mentally and emotionally to being publicly ridiculed.

However, all managers have a duty of care to those they manage. That duty of care extends beyond just physical well being to mental and emotional as well. That is why I feel it isn't acceptable for a manager to repeatedly publicly ridicule a player. It amounts to emotional bullying, if ever it got to an employment tribunal the manager would have some serious questions to answer and in all other forms of employment would probably lose his job.

What kind of world do we live in where we feel the only way to motivate someone is to bully them?

3.) 19 Mar 2018
19 Mar 2018 16:57:20
i wouldn't say its bullying. he's trying to get the player to wake up and for fill his potential.

what does he want a cuddle and a shoulder to cry on.

you just have to look at shaw to see he's not professional one bit, the guys over weight, looks sluggish and slow.

and i'm sure he's had more than one in house conversation, this might be the last way of waking him up.


hes been praised publicly too on more than one occation that's not worked.

its a shame because pre injury he was looking TOP.

4.) 19 Mar 2018
19 Mar 2018 17:26:33
Bolger, Rooney was the same shape his whole career. Do you think Jose would have treated a 27 year old Rooney in the same manner he has treated Shaw?

And publicly ridiculing and humiliating a person is bullying.

5.) 19 Mar 2018
19 Mar 2018 17:38:24
he wasn't at the same age Shaw is now,

and Rooney performed season after season in that shape.

6.) 19 Mar 2018
19 Mar 2018 17:56:47
Maybe he's tried in house and its failed. He's tried praising him. That's not worked. The guys attitude by all accounts is not right. He can't keep blaming the injury. If it is bullying then that's wrong. But if he's tried everything else and nothings worked then what can he do. We've only seen the public stuff.

7.) 19 Mar 2018
19 Mar 2018 18:02:51
We have plenty of players who under perform, but only a handful of players get publicly blasted by Jose. Shaw, however, is the only player to get persistent public shamings from him.

A few months back Jose claimed that Shaw was on track to be one of the best lbs in the world. He then immediately dropped him for an aging former winger, and when he did give him another chance, he subbed him at half time to make a point to the rest of the squad.

It’s no surprise that Jose was furious that Shaw demanded huge wages scuppering his move to Chelsea. Whatever the failings with Shaw’s attitude, physique, etc, he hasn’t warranted the level of public criticism Jose has unloaded over the last two years. It’s certainly not the right way to get a young lad playing to his potential.

8.) 19 Mar 2018
19 Mar 2018 18:38:28
I think jm treating Shaw the way he is is bullying. It's not taking him off on games, it's the fact that he singles him out for critism at every oportunity. At the end of the day how would you see it if your boss done this to you at your work? Yeah it's true that he earns a lot of money but the money is irrelevant. He is still a young man who has feelings and I think the injury he sustained with us in the European game has affected him mentally and this is not helping him at all. Jose seemed to make a bee line for him as soon as he came in and it's got progressively worse. I personally think Jm needs to go for this behaviour. it's not acceptable in any work place, I know I'd be given my marching orders If I treated a member of my team at work like this.

9.) 19 Mar 2018
19 Mar 2018 21:03:43
Comparing Shaw to Rooney; one a legend of our club and top scorer, the other a semi professional over weight and unprofessional defender is most ridiculous.

10.) 19 Mar 2018
19 Mar 2018 21:23:26
Mort - if Shaw's attitude is not right, he isn't listening and doing the things that are asked of him plus he also looks overweight and not fully fit then my main concern is with José and not Shaw.
With all of the above why would José let him anywhere near the squad, let alone the team? There are plenty of other options to cover Young being rested.
As for Shaw, if all of the above is true or José doesn't rate him then just offload him in the summer without creating the circus that surrounded Jose's press conference.