1.) 06 Oct 2018
06 Oct 2018 10:04:01
Gr8888 post Redman.

2.) 06 Oct 2018
06 Oct 2018 11:51:47
Red Man, I will happily admit that I have criticised people for 'I told you so posts' - so I have no complaints when I get the same back. But I have been saying this for ages - since Moyes was sacked in fact - but I am absolutely positive that there are far bigger issues at United than just the manager (s) .

I don't necessarily agree that funds haven't been made available because they have, certainly in recent years. But there is also a strong arguement that had those funds been made available sooner then we wouldn't have fallen so far behind in the first place.

We seem to have changed tact recently in that we won't spend on older players which I assume is due to sell on value etc. I actually agree with this policy - but it has come far too late. Look at the millions and millions wasted on Schweinsteiger and Zlatan, for example.

But the above issues seem minor compared to the 'bigger picture'. The whole club needs a big shake up, from top to bottom. There is no clear strategy (other than maximising income), no clear direction and most glaringly no leadership. It seems as though everyone is pulling in different directions, all with different agendas and all with different goals. In fact, the only common goal is self interest.

Obviously this is only my opinion, and to be honest I have no other grounds to make them other than my own percerption but on the face of it the whole lot looks like a complete shambles.

Worst of all, nobody at the club even seems that bothered about it. They don't seem at all bothered that the image of the club is quickly being eroded away, as long as the commercial money keeps rolling in.

There is a theory that there is no such thing as bad publicity - and it looks to me like Manchester United - or the owner - buy into that theory.

3.) 06 Oct 2018
06 Oct 2018 13:01:28
Great posts redman and betty .
Everybody knows its not pretty at the moment nor has it been for some time. There are many reasons we can see and many more that we as supporters don't see.
Im looking forward to the match today and i hope that we get the 3 points.

4.) 06 Oct 2018
06 Oct 2018 13:54:44
We are all puppet's to Glazernomics and whilst Rome burns and we fight amongst ourselves they continue to get rich.

What we need now is strong and robust leadership from our owners. With the Club threatening to devour itself from the inside out they remain silent.

No words of support or show of solidarity for their besieged manager, no reassuring words, no explanation, no communication, nothing, just deafening silence.

Mourinho sent out to face the wolves alone, the scapegoat, the puppet hanging on by a thread about to be cut loose.

This is not what we want to see, we are a football Club not a soap opera. We now hang our managers out to dry to divert the attention away from the real problem. Owners that have absolutely no footballing strategy, owners with only one desire and it's not to put trophies in the cabinet.

Post SAF all our intrepid managers have been fatally undermined at some point the rug pulled beneath their feet. Timing is everything. Moyes wasn't backed at all, the Club pulled the plug on January plans for LVG and now Jose fatally hung out to dry in the summer. There is no structure in place to assist them and all at the mercy of Mr Woodward's whimsical reasoning. If you think we can win the league on a budget using academy players think again. Pep hasn't won the league at City he's bought it like nearly every Club has since the invention of the game. He's hasn't made great players out of Kolarov, Clichy, Mangala, Nasri, Navas, Sagna, Zabaleta, Hart, Iheanacho the list is endless. We've seen what happens to Pep when he doesn't have the players he needs. If you think you can win the league or champions league without significant investment in the squad your investing in their rhetoric. If any of us truly believe that we'd just settle for some good football then we mirror the boards lack of ambition. We give them an excuse to sack another manager whilst ignoring the principle reason we find ourselves in this position. A chronic lack of ambition and failure to invest in the squad at the right time. We needed to significantly strengthen this summer not search for value in the market.

It's hard to defend Mourinho, the style, the tactics, the arguments but we must not lose sight of the bigger picture. He was hung out to dry in the summer. Not only didn't we invest but we didn't sell either. Mourinho knew this was coming and he forewarned us. The next manager awaits the same fate.

If the Club spent half as much energy investing in the footballing side of the business as they do developing more sponsorship and revenue opportunities we wouldn't be in this position. We are now pioneers off the pitch but has been on it. Blaming Mourinho is the easy option.

Good posts Red Man and Betty.