Manchester United Banter Archive August 11 2012

11 Aug 2012 22:04:12
Now I know we cling at straws but he's one for you,Van Persie tonight has changed he's twitter page photo from him wearing an Arsenal shirt to a photo of him just in normal clothes! Maybe jus maybe!lol

He did that several days ago.....not that Im stalking him or anything ;)

TK-Red

11 Aug 2012 21:42:59
Anyone shed any light as to where Sir Alex was tonight? Pretty clear something's going on - but what?

Apparently that pesky 'other club business', I heard he did fly out to Germany though. Can eds or anyone confirm this?

Sanshine {Ed004's Note - I can't unfortunately}

I read from a reliable article that whilst they aren't sure they believe SAF didn't travel.

Rudderpost

11 Aug 2012 21:32:17
a little off the point but anyone have a fantasy league set up?

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HA We're both too nice TK!

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11 Aug 2012 21:31:04
Not United related but Madrid and Milan have reached an agreement on Kaka. I would think the Modric situation will now be coming to an end with him eventually going to Madrid.

CRMike

40m quid is just way too much for Modric. Witsel is a better and cheaper option.

Which will hopefully clear the path to Witsel.

TK-Red

11 Aug 2012 21:23:07
Not getting carried away but Kagawa must be a regular in the starting lineup. Either in midfield or off the stiker, not sure I would want him on the left, his skills call for him in the middle.


CRMike

11 Aug 2012 21:16:12
And that's why we all support United !!
Hanover 3 United 4
Let's get behind the boys !!

fozzy58

Fantastic result

Puzzled

It was more about how entertaining we were and what good football we played puzzled but you probably wouldn't understand.

GDS

11 Aug 2012 21:10:07
i dont want to get carried away but kagawa looks an outstanding player,one of those players you cant take your eyes off, his ball control and touch is effortless,knows what pass hes going to make before hes even got the ball and can score,hopefully will be an amazing signing.

phil

Totally agree, I think some people think being a 12m signing that he won't be that good but rest assured we got a bargin. Had he had 3 years left on his contract we'd have been paying at least 25m if not 30m in todays market.

Shappy

Who the hell disagreed?

Red Joe

11 Aug 2012 21:02:54
Damn nice touch and goal by Kagawa. Classy.

11 Aug 2012 21:02:28
Keep your modric, kagawa has just saved us 35 million. Spend it on baines and Rvp. Job done

Parkie mufc

He can be our David Silva!

11 Aug 2012 20:50:30
Woahhh... Screamer from Roo!! Take that

Deeps..

11 Aug 2012 20:46:51
Wayne that was straight out of the top drawer shades of David beckham.

Caolán.

11 Aug 2012 20:42:49
Patrice Evra has been a star for the club, and was the best LB in the world for a while. But he has to be one of the worst defenders around now. He doesn't even turn his head to see who's around him, he stops and watches others defend, and last season a large portion of opposition goals were based from his side. Not sure what the solution is, and I appreciate his contributions to the club, but watch him closely when defending in our box, it really is quite terrifying! However, after only a few matches I am convinced Kagawa is a world-beater and will soon be all of our favorite player. Smart, quick, unselfish, creative, and best of all, he's a CM who can actually help our attack instead of just sitting deep and playing the ball wide. I don't play him in the hole behind a single striker, but in ACM behind two strikers. The good and the bad....-KG (and it just went 3-1, and what do u know, it came from Evra's side!)

KAGAWA! KAGAWA! KAGAWA!

You're not sure what the solution is?
errr....

Puzzled

11 Aug 2012 20:39:41
I have toyed with the idea of Kagawa in a two man central midfield. And I sort of felt it could work, but generally wasn't sure. But this is opening up new possibilities as we really don't need a central midfield playmaker like Modric if Kagawa can do this. He and Cleverly are excellent and we'd be more solid if one of them was alongside Carrick. This also shows why we may go for Van Persie as Kagawa may not occupy the hole.

RedDevil19

I agree kagawa could do a modric job but IMO we need a defensive minded mid next to him. With 2 central midfielders who are attack minded we concede far to many chances.

Discountdave

11 Aug 2012 20:24:54
Didn't expect Kagawa as CM but he does with Cleverly who is playing outstanding coming back.

11 Aug 2012 20:16:02
No sir Alex with the team tonight, maybe he will be sorting some moves out ?

Salford red
...

you mean like yoga or break dancing..?

11 Aug 2012 20:11:17
Kagawa has done well in CM he has roamed the pitch, for Cleverly well well well! If he carries on to play like this he will be going places when he is older! People saying we need a replacement for Scholes when he retires again, well if Tom stays fit I think we have found our new Scholes, if I dare say it.

Overall I am enjoying the game and it's great to see Hernandez' score a goal!

Also I may be reading into things but Fergie isn't there because he is sorting out club business, could he be negotiating a signing maybe an offer for RVP or even a different player, hope so!

-JakeW

11 Aug 2012 20:09:52
kagawa and cleverly in the midfield... completly different approch... otherwise with scholes and carrik side pass and back pass are the only thing i see... i hope they stay fit all the time. and well taken goal by chicha.
rodio17

11 Aug 2012 20:06:26
Just like to say... How impressive has Kagawa and Cleverleys partnership been in midfield. I personally didn't think Kagawa would be as good in CM as he is further forward but he certainly has impressed. Considering they could have had max 2 training sessions together they are linking up as if they have played together for years. Think I will not be the only one in saying it but throughout the pre-season we have been very slow in the build up play but both have injected that bit of pace we need in there. I'm taking it with a pinch of salt at the minute but hope to see them both in the second half

RedKnight

They say great minds think a like.

JK92

11 Aug 2012 19:52:00
Finally chicharito! 1-1

Caolán.

11 Aug 2012 19:50:37
2 points here
Why wOnt the ball go in? And lindergarrd can't start ye season no where near as good as de gea

Caolán.

De Gea is the number one, but people need to stop jumping on every mistake.

Sydney!

11 Aug 2012 19:46:52
kagawa starting in a two man midfield with cleverly!! hopefully those to play well together

They have played well, but we need a sharper forward attack so they can be appreciated. Have to say Cleverley is a tidy little player. If he can stay fit he is our replacement for Scholes.

Sydney!

11 Aug 2012 19:37:03
No sir Alex with the team tonight, maybe he will be sorting some moves out ?

Salford red

11 Aug 2012 19:30:57
are we still in for strootman of PSV - I know there has been talk? only 22?

11 Aug 2012 19:25:32
SAF is not at the match tonight because he is on club business. Not sure whether he travelled to Germany but I'm sure someone can tell us.

Rudderpost

11 Aug 2012 19:21:19
RVP update. My man in old Trafford says that united and arsenal had a conversation last night by phone. Arsenal have laid out what they expect united to do in order to get RVP. United have to decide how far they are willing to go to get him. Arsenal want to know by Monday what united are willing to do. If united agree to arsenals terms RVP could be at old Trafford as early as Tuesday for medical..........

The juventus interest is on hold because they have been told by RVP agent that they want to exhaust all possibilities with united first. City ate still lurking even thought RVP does not want to go there but you never know how things can work out .....

Newbridge red

11 Aug 2012 19:12:00
i'm just watching united in hannover on mutv and the manager is not there, phelan's in charge again, do you think the managers on transfer business ed ? do you know anything ?

BIG AL {Ed004's Note - Hopefully}

11 Aug 2012 18:15:51
So Lucas moura is all about the €€€ and proved it, which I myself am glad because he is highly over rated and greedy. I can surely say next season he will be forgotten about as he won't live up to all his hype and warm the PSG bench.

On another note RVP I would love to see sign, but let's be honest with ourselves Money talks, Nasri, Toure, Adebayour and Clichy are all evidence of this. Citeh offered ridiculous wages and the players mentioned were bought, as Arsenal cashed in before he lost these players on a Free.

Arsenal's clash in Germany will be evidence of weather RVP will be joining. If he starts the game the chances are all but over, he will either get injured or play brilliant with the other Arsenal signings and sign a new contract shortly after the game.

Thus giving SAF, the chance to hide the fact that we don't have the cash or wages to pay for his services with a smokescreen of words.

Every other team has been open about there targets, I know we keep quiet incase we get hijacked but let's face it

Moura we lost out on but there was other interest

RVP - We are in the driving seat, if he wants to come to united why don't he just say it. Or as I said can we not afford him

Witsel we really could do with, and if we could spend 25m+ I can't see why we can't bid and not have all our eggs in one basket

Gaitan another serious buy who would do well, why are we not putting an offer in??

If all our eggs are on RVP, then we will be eld to ransom for him. It's quite clear that he also looks at the news etc and since he knows he is our only TT. The choice is with him

Money talks - has United any to spend, cause we all know we're lacking some drive and there can be no excuses this summer

Reddevilfan

So any target NOT joining United are only interested in money?

Puzzled

I actually agree with the Liverpool fan rather than the pile of tripe above it.

Puzzled,just remind me what your lot said when sigurdson signed for spurs?

phil

If you were a player from Brazil and had no loyalty to United why wouldn't you go to PSG? Offering more money and you're in Champions League and you can always go to England or Spain later. I don't understand all this hate for players who chose a different club.

Would anyone like to name a player that we were signing and did no seek better wages else were, I can name a good few

Sneijder wanted excessive wages
Nasri got better wages at Citeh
Hazard better wages at Chelsea

The list is endless, and at least my pile of tripe is the truth

REDDEVILFAN

RDF, Kagawa, Jones, Young & Powell to name four.

Sydney!

11 Aug 2012 17:56:47
Any truth that Lewandowsky has agreed to sign next year?

11 Aug 2012 17:48:52
i would'nt mind if fergie bought jordan rhodes,
he's only 21, would'nt cost anywhere near rvp,
plus playing for united would make him a better player.

Yeah but we don't need him as we have Powell and they are about the same standard

Nowhere near good enough for United.

Firstly he's 22, 23 in Feb so not 21. He's never played higher than Championship level, and not regular at that level, he's mainly a 3rd/ 4th division striker. I honestly don't get some peoples obsession on here with signing him.

11 Aug 2012 17:35:27
hey, haven't been on a while some of you might remember me (Liverpool fan). Was looking through the posts about some of the United/ liverpool discussions and i seen a great post from Shappy.Would just like to applaud him for his honesty in saying he thinks we've got the best young manager in the league.Will have to wait and see but its remarkable what he has done in the short space of time, you can see he own football philosophy in are play already. Not expecting us to win the league or anything but in a few years time i believe we will be very strong.

Also I seen posts saying that Joe Allen would not get into the United team blah dy blah ... But really I don't think there is much between them.

lucas, allen and gerrard or cleverly, scholes and kagawa/ either or carrick.

I personally believe both of them are strong midfields, maybe liverpool with more potential. both got a few promising prospects coming through in that area .... cheers

Danny LFC

I stand by that, i do feel Rodgers is the best young manager in the Prem. I was a little disapointed when he went to liverpool as i like him and despise liverpool so it's put me in a awkward position. My only worry is the liverpool fans have far too high expectations to the point that a section of them were pushing for a club legend to leave as manager. They barely gave him 18 months to turn it around, i do worry how much time they will give Rodgers.

Liverpool are in the their worst position in over 50 years. They have a poor squad, with a big ego at the centre causing more trouble than he's worth on current form. There current best player is a trouble maker on the pitch. And they are struggling to attract the best players. And don't have the money to compete for them either.

They do have some bright points, Allen i think is a decent signing but he isn't the player to change a game. He is more like the oil in a machine. He is the player that makes everything run smoothly but isn't the vital cog.
Lucas was starting to show some good form before his injury. So if you had Lucas and Allen in the centre then you have a decent base although not a world class one. I still think Liverpool need two wingers/wide forwards and a leading striker. Downing and Carroll just aren't good enough.
If they can keep all their defenders fit then they have a solid back line of Reina Johnson Skrtel Agger and Enrique, Johnson being the only real weak link there. But Agger is very injury prone and Skrtel struggled last year as did Johnson at times. So imo i think Liverpool are at least four top draw players away from being serious top four challengers. A ST LW RW and young CB. If they got Ricky Van Wolfswinkel, Gaston Ramirez, Ibrahim Afellay and Dede then i think they would have a dangerous team.

__________Reina
Johnson_Skrtel_Agger_Enrique
_______Lucas_Allen
_Afellay___Suarez___Ramirez
__________RVW

Now thats a team with quality movement and deadly finishing ability. You might be abit open but as long as you keep the ball then you won't have a problem. The only Problem is your talking about another 50-60m outlay which i just don't think your owners will allow.

I'd like to see Liverpool do better than they have in recent seasons, it's not quite the same unless beating you means something.

Shappy

Sorry Shappy, that team will just not happen. We will be playing 4-3-3 with two inside forwards, not wingers.

------------Reina
Johnson-Skrtel-Agger-Enrique
-----gerrard-lucas-allen-----
--Walcott--Suarez--Borini--

This is the team we will have for the next season. Obviously Walcott is a maybe and could be replaced with someone like Ramirez or Afellay but I doubt it. Suarez, Gerrard and Borini have good movement and understanding and they will all be swapping about and creating space for the others to move in to.

BthekingB

Have you finished flirting with the Liverpool fans Shappy lad? I almost puked.

Sydney!

Suarez may be considered a trouble maker by some people. But I like many are delighted he signed a new contract with the club. Not many people who have the quality he has and you want to keep hold of are best players. He has signed a new contract, he's a tough lad, we have moved on. The defence if we keep hold of agger is one of the strongest in the league. Personally would replace johnson with kelly as i agree that he is the weak link. I believe Reina can re capture his form of old, and is still a good keeper.

The midfield has a bit of everything. Lucas is massively under rated and having him back in the team is like a new signing. He can provide the cover for the defence while help starting the attacks with Allen with there crisp passing. From what I seen in the Gomel match. i'm reveling in seeing Gerrard's new role in front of the midfield two. The Position he really can do the damage to the opposition. Borini and suarez link up play was superb for the time they have worked together, compliment each other perfectly.

You are right in saying downing is below par. I'm not a fan of him, though i have given him a chance. Carroll impressed me at the end of the season but unfortunately doesn't seem to be in rodgers plans. I still believe Carroll could become a top premier league striker. but just not here...

Danny

Tut tut Syd manners cost nothing. This is a banter site after all and that doesn't limit it to just United fans, Infact Banter would imply that fans of different teams should be on here. Beside the lad has come on here and written his post in the right way, he seems to want actual discussion and not just silly my club is better than your club usual rubbish we get from persons like Blair. So yes i'll reply to him in the same manner in which he has come on here. If your that intolerant to people different to yourself then i pity you syd mate.

Danny, I'd actually forgotten you signed Borini, from the little i've seen of him he looks decent but not world class. But like i said i've not seen much of him and he is still young so lets just wait and see. Downing would never have played for england had he been right footed and tells you all you need to know about him. No pace, not able to beat a man and poor passing. Not bad at crossing but struggles to get into position to cross.

Carroll will never be more than a 15 goal a season striker not because he isn't good enough as such but because he suits a style of football that has become out dated. He needs traditional wingers whipping in crosses for him to feed on and modern football is all about keeping the ball and working openings. If you could get Afellay then him Borini and Suarez could work well together, with Gerrard Lucas and Allen in the middle. the only issue is can Gerrard stay fit all season and if not then you need someone better than Henderson or Adam to step in for him. If you could get Strootman then i think that would make you alot stronger. I think BthekingB is right that you are more likely to play a 433 as that is Rodgers style.

Shappy

Danny - nice post but like pearls before swine - post it on the main page

Puzzled

11 Aug 2012 16:53:21
So I am back from my two weeks away in Marbella and what do I come back to. The Glazers have sold shares in the club and have they plowed it back into the club and made world class signings. No they have paid off some of their debt yes I will say it again Their debt and what have they done with the other £75 million they have trousered it. Now I know that the Glazer machine will go into overdrive and i will get criticised for my negative views but just wait a minute and look at the fact maybe just maybe I was right all the time. Great to be back let the games begin. I AM KLOOT {Ed002's Note - Whilst it is their debt it is also their club - just not quite all of it now. They can pretty much do what they want.}

I see your relaxing break hasn't done all that much to mellow you out. Lol. Welcome back.

Shappy

I am disappointed more money wasn't paid towards the debt, but I get the feeling this will not be the only IPO and more will go to the debt in the future. This IPO was never to give us more cashflow, it was all about paying down the club's debt and their personal debts.

Sadly the money is there's to do what they want with. They could have kept it all if they wished.

Sydney!

Sydney,

Kloots problem is that even if all the debt was paid off and the glazers became great owners he would always refuse to see it and will never say anything positive.

No enjoyment from supporting the greatest club in the world at all. Refuse to argue with you now though kloot, you are correct as always, welcome back.

GDS

There's? Of course I meant to write theirs ;)

Sydney!

GDS, to be fair the Glazers will never be great owners even if they made us debt-free. They have wasted around £350m of the club's cash on debts that they saddled the club with. They are vampires. No one can really defend them for what they have done, but many out there would envy them as what they have done in a business sense is genius. They bought a club with borrowed money worth £800m and doubled the valuation. As a United fans it's sickening, but many businessmen would be pretty envious.

Sydney!

Maybe that's why I see it how I do as I am a businessman!

I wasn't suggesting they would become good owners, i was saying that whatever they do kloot will always slag them off, if we buy 2 more players we have what we need but no1 will give the glazers any credit. People are managing to forget we have needed an attacking midfielder for years and we have bought one of the best young ones in the world.

Looking forward to seeing him with Cleverley tonight, interesting team selection.

GDS

Cleverley was very good in the 1st half. That is why just Witsel would be enough.

Sydney!

11 Aug 2012 16:45:24
I would just like to say this game has once again highlighted the weaknesses in Rafael's defending. Although he can be a very good right back, he is always let down by silly defensive mistakes. And his reaction when he was taken off was not pleasing either.

MelonRed

11 Aug 2012 15:43:44
Hello folks

just back from 2 weeks in the Eastern Algarve, and thought I'd share a few rumours from over there.

Witsel has been in all the local rags, and it would appear that Real and Utd are expected to make a move - the articles concentrated on Utd looking him, but local opinion, ie taxi drivers, waiters and shopkeepers seems to think Real are the more serious suitors.

More interestingly, and I don't know really how I feel about this, I bought my 10 yr old son the new Benfica top, and he wanted Gaitan on the back. I've lost count of the amount of people who have patted him on the back, but then to a man commented, 'but he is going to Manchester'. I presume they meant us rather than the other lot, as people abroad tend to refer to us as just 'Manchester'.

They all might just read the same aul dung in their papers that we read in ours, but they all seemed pretty sure. I thought the whole Gaitan thing had been forgotten about, but there you go.

Personally, I'd have preferred them to have been pretty sure that Witsel is coming here, rather than Gaitan.

Nothing substantiated whatsoever, just giving you an idea what the locals are thinking over two names linked with us at one point or another.

Cheers
StevieK

I'd put my money on Gaitan rather than Witsel coming to Utd.
I think we're waiting on an acceptable offer for Nani, which may or may not materialise.

M.D.

I've heard we could still be in for Gaitan, and thats the general feeling in Lisbon. I think he's a very good player and would welcome him, although i get the impression i may be the only one some times. lol.

Shappy

11 Aug 2012 15:27:37
Do you think the club will buy two players before the transfer market closes? Which two realistic players could arrive - I think RVP and Taylor!

I think there will be three more signings.

Sydney!

I think if I am being realistic then we may get RVP and Dembele. I wouldn't mind this but I would love to see RVP and Modric but not going to see that happen.

1redarmy

Who do you think those three will be Sydney?

MelonRed

Whos Taylor ?

Hard to say mate.

Sydney!

I think we'll see a LB a CM and then either RVP or Gaitan. I have a feeling the CM will be Dembele but Witsel is in with a shout. LB is anyones guess, Izaguirre Oviedo and Baines have all been linked but don't be suprised if it's someone like Alex Sandro or Jose Angel.

Shappy

11 Aug 2012 14:20:19
Tonight's line-up?

___________DDG
Tony___Ferdy___Vidic___Evra
______Carrick___Clever
L.Nani_____Kagawa_____Young
__________Rooney

Sydney!

Looks pretty sound to me Sydney!, will be good to see the likes of Lingard and Petrucci come on later on and play with the current first 11 - see how they slot in.
They have gone with the squad havnt they?
Hallis

Interesting syd...

i posted this team this morning

___________ De Gea

Val ___ Ferdi ___ Vidic __ Evra

_____ Anderson _ Cleverley

__ Nani ____ Kagawa ____ Young

____________ Rooney.

think he may keep carrick on the side as cover for the back and personally i would love to see ando & clevs again...

oxred

I think carrick will be in for either Ferdinand or vidic apart from that I would agree with you

Discountdave

Hallis, they never traveled mate.

Ox, I think yours is more likely due to Carrick and the CB issue.

Sydney!

That's a shame,
Would have hoped to see them link up with some of the senior players
Hopefully they will get chances this season
Hallis

They stayed to play Peterbourgh which is probably better for their development atm. I would expect them to get some cup games up until christmas then a loan after that. Then we'll take them on tour next year with them given a real chance in the squad that season.

Shappy

11 Aug 2012 14:21:42
United and arsenal representatives met up early this morning regarding RVP.. Talks expected to last till late tonight as they attempt to come to an agreement. I think we will get him. Once that's out of the way. We will move for modric

RJ92

Been on twitter lately???

11 Aug 2012 13:15:43
Ruud Van Nistelrooy, remembering the good times!

Nick86

Truly a great. One of the best goal poachers the beautiful game has ever seen.

GALWAY RED

Yes indeed - now remind me why Ruud was forced out of the club. Whilst you are at it you might mention the Stam expulsion - different reasons I know but same result - a star going to someone else to satisfy one man's mental matters

Puzzled

11 Aug 2012 12:22:34
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11 Aug 2012 11:37:05
Puzzled thinks Joe Allen is better than Paul Scholes. L.O.L

G.A.G.U.S
ps - HA

Poor old Scholes wants to retire but 'no value in the market McBluster' won't let him.

Scholes at his best - excellent
Scholes now - past his best

Puzzled

Of course he is Gagus mate, he plays for Liverpool now so he must be better. If you asked him six months ago he wouldn't have even knew who Joe Allen was.

Sydney!

Scholes now still top quality show me a better passer in the league puzzled?


Dwright

Puzzled, you are for once 100% correct scholes is past his best. Still a lot better than joe Allen though, any simpleton could see that.

GDS

Puzzled is so right! "Superb value in the market" = King Jenny = Andy Carroll 35 Million + Jordan Henderson 16 million + Stewy Down-ing(Dont even care what he went for).

Deeps...

I now understand why you called yourself Puzzled.

G.A.G.U.S

A past his best, 10 years retired, one leg fallen off Paul Scholes is still better than Joe Allen.

TK-Red

Sorry lads all your wonderful digs were wasted in that (suprising as it may seem) I don't spend all my time looking at this site.
I concentrate on the main page (we all know where that is) then I look at Chelsea, Spurs,
City and Arsenal and then if I am still awake I drift over here.


Puzzled

11 Aug 2012 10:29:37
Arsenal fan in peace. Just wondering whether you United fans actually want RVP to sign? All the fans I've spoken to in real life would much prefer the money spent elsewhere rather than an injury prone 29 year old with extortionate wage demands and I wanted to know if that is the general feeling.

Cheers

Invincible49

Said it before, would prefer Lewandowski.

G.A.G.U.S

I think opinion is divided. Fergie has signed a lot of youngsters, some of whom haven't matured as expected (sound familiar?) so a proven goal scorer in the Prem League is very attractive. Injuries are a concern, fee might be a bit high for a 29 year old but last year we lacked anyone who could consistently support Rooney in providing goals. So...all things considered, I'd love him to come

Well, he would be a class player at United, as he can score and create goals. He would improve the first team now and we would be a better team for the present. However I would prefer Higuain to Van Persie. But Higuain is not for sale, and Van Persie can link up really well with our players so I would love us to get Van Persie. Then personally I think we would only need a centre mid, preferably Martinez or Sahin. Martinez can play two positions, and Sahin can link up with Kagawa. Gilly

I would like him to sign, would send a message out to the rest of Europe. He is one of the best strikers in the world.

If we can keep Giggs fit with his dodgy hamstrings then we have a chance of keeping Rvp fit.

Cban

Id prefer it to be spent on getting witsel or moutinho.

JK92

Obviously he'd be a luxury signing and i'd love to see him playing with Rooney, but 1st i'd much rather we addressed the CM problem

I'd say the general feeling among United fans is that if we sign him it will be a very good buy as when he is fit he is world class and you can't have too many good players. However, there are other areas of the team which need to be looked at first. So by signing RVP we are using the funds which could be better spent elsewhere like CM and LB. Plus we signed Owen Hargreaves a few years ago and injuries ruined him, we don't want another situation like that. It is one of those signings that you would judge in a year's time. If he gets injured lots he has flopped, if he scores 30 we have done great business but that is the risk you take with some players.

Rjmanutd

Thanks for the responses guys and it really does seem like opinion is divided. Obviously I hope we don't sell to you as it would send out a bad message and I'd much rather 10 million from Juventus than 25 million from you. Having said that I wish you luck this season and I would much rather you win the title than City or Chelsea buy it.

Invincible49

You would prefer Lewandowski? A good player and maybe younger but come on. Taking away age and possible injuries RVP is twice the player he will ever be
Invisible STuey

Arsenal's injury record over the recent years has been woeful at times, and it asks the question if there are problems with the the Arsenal pysio staff or training methods? I think we can keep RVP fitter for longer and if that is the case then it will be best United signing for years. We have a host of potential, but we really need impact now so I want us to sign him.

Thanks. and we'll try to win it especially if rvp is in our team!

If we sign RVP then I think we will get at least four top seasons out of him. He has a bad injury record, but he is deadly when fit and he doesn't need many games after an injury to get his mojo back. Personally I would love to see Lewandowski, but RVP would give an instant boost to the squad's morale. I am not convinced RVP will be on anywhere near £220k a week, probably around £160k with very good bonuses. I also do not believe this Welbeck nonsense, next summer we will be going for all four trophies and the manager will not want to be playing Kiko and Diouf in the League Cup and FA Cup, he will want to play Welbeck and Hernandez. We will have a squad good enough to compete in all comps.

Sydney!

11 Aug 2012 09:51:55
Was at peterbrough last night, good to see the MUFC faithfull in loud voices again. Macheda was crap

Haha love how straight forward this post was.

Keep up the good work!

MPez

Well, he often is. Since his high impact arrival he has been a tad disappointing

AJH

Kiko is never going to be a United senior player, it's just a shame he is so poor as we are struggling to offload him.

Sydney!

We should have sold him the summer after he scored against Aston Villa and Sunderland, we could have gotten a few quid then. Gilly

11 Aug 2012 09:09:55
i have it of normally reliable source that rvp will have medical tuesday fee £22 million and that witsel will have medical friday fee £21million plus add ons, that will be all our activity until january when saf will look to bring in lb my source not sure who thou, 3 lb will b heavily scouted by martin ferguson til then, will update wen i hear more!joey

Far too much money in my opinion. I would rather take Lewandoski (excuse spelling) than RVP. I think Witsel is overrated. A year ago nobody wanted to match Benfica's modest bid. Has he really improved that much ?

Pip

Interesting but that doesn't explain why we have been interested in quicker players who can play wide or why the club have seemed to push Nani towards the exit. If you are right then it still leaves us a question over pace from our left side

Red Man

11 Aug 2012 07:53:26
Looking at the tour squad for today what team does everyone see us starting with?

I think this team.

____________ De Gea

Val ___ Ferdi ___ Vidic __ Evra

_____ Anderson _ Cleverley

__ Nani ____ Kagawa ____ Young

____________ Rooney.


Lindegaard;
M Keane,
Michael Carrick
Ryan Giggs
Bebe,
Robbie Brady,
Berbatov,
Hernandez

the only change maybe carrick in for either Rio, Vidic, Clevs or Ando

Oxred

Welbeck? Impossible to pick the team for a meaningless friendly.

GDS

Think he may start Chicharito tbh... Didn't play against Barcelona so I think it will be Chico and Wayne to start upfront

RedKnight

Gds... WELLBECK did not travel so it would be hard for him to play mate...

this is our last game before the big kickoff so i would start our strongest team and i think this is it with the players we have in the squad

oxred

11 Aug 2012 05:33:39
Apparently Man United are looking into signing Lewandoski since the rumours about RVP moving have stalled

11 Aug 2012 00:14:12
Not sure if it was but it looked like rvp at carrington today me and the wife was out cycling past and there was loads of media outside and we are sure or was rvp that went past is in a white BMW x5 I hope it was quality addition to the squad.

That's strange... How a guy can be in two places at once considering he is in Germany with Arsenal

RedKnight

If there was loads of media outside, would this not have been reported in said media?

TK-Red

11 Aug 2012 00:35:06
Perhaps i'm getting far too ahead of myself, which is more than likely, but how do you Reds feel about this as a possible starting XI if we made these signings;

____________DDG_____________
Rafael__Smalling__Vidic__Cissokho/Oviedo
_______Witsel___Dembele_______
Valencia____Kagawa________Nani
___________Rooney____________

alternating with;

_________Lindegaard____________
Jones_____Rio_____Evans_____Evra
__Cleverley__Carrick__Scholes/Giggs
__Welbeck__Chicharito__Young____

Of course you could swap Dembele around with Cleverley or Scholes or Carrick but I think Witsel and Dembele could be a dynamite double in midfield.

Witsel (£20m + Anderson)
Cissokho/Oviedo (in the region of £10m/£5m)
Dembele (£12m)

For me, that would be money very well and wisely spent!
Thoughts?

Rosco.

I like the looks of that first team seeing united line up like that against everton would be class.

I wouldn't want Oviedo though as it will halt the progress of fabio when he comes back from his loan


Dwright