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11 Aug 2013 23:35:18
shellfish I know but hope ronney doesn't go or will have to replace my tea mug which is a rooney 2006/2007 seaon when he had real hair
Rooney has real hair now. It's his neck hair. Still real hair.
Shellfish? Mr Connery, it's an honour to meet you.
Shellfish was a result of one too many sherbets
11 Aug 2013 23:12:41
Just something for all you reds to think about, watched today's game . Did anyone notice no number 7 for united Valencia has changed to 22. Could this mean we are getting a new number 7? Could it be CR7 return? I think so. Mark.
Mark,
It was 25 and yes everybody noticed, RTFP!
Zaha will get no.7
11 Aug 2013 23:08:28
Happy with the result today. I have a feeling Giggs was only played today because he won't get as much game time when the premier league kicks off. In saying that, he played quite well. Performance wise, we did what we had to do. Anderson came on and did well and it looks like he will be a starter against Swansea. Zaha was a bit off today but the lad will be fine. Everyone else had a pretty solid game and what a professional RVP is on and off the field. His wise head will do wonders for the youngsters in the squad who look up to him.
Lastly, Should we be reading a lot in to Valencia giving up the number 7 shirt? It all seems a bit last minute and with the rumours which were going around previously about the staff at Old Trafford not printing his name with the number 7, it may mean that a signing is imminent. It may well be the number 7 is given to Zaha, but I think that is putting far too much pressure on the boy. Hopefully all is revealed soon.
Quite excited for the coming week as I feel there will be some new faces at Old Trafford. One more week till the big day!
11 Aug 2013 22:15:26
I am reading all these posts and I can feel a grenade about to be tossed things need stirring up.
11 Aug 2013 22:12:06
met david may today after the utd game asked him what he thinks about valencia giving up the 7 shirt was it down to pressure?. he gave me a quick answer
'nothing to do with pressure there's a 7 AND 9 coming in'
he smiled and walked off. my heart says ronaldo but brain differs. could the 7 be fellani?
i can't wait for september 2nd I can't handle no more rumours
I would be gutted if Fellaini got number 7, not worthy of that shirt, if Ronaldo doesn't come back I'd be giving it to RVP, only guy worthy of it at this moment
RVP has said that he won't move from 20 because it's not fair on all the fans who have bought his shirt with 20 on the back. True professional.
But he was happy to change from 11 to 10 for Arsenal.
Haha Fellaini won't get number 7 you mad? that's reserved for players of Michael Owen's calibre ;)
Ozwald
Fellaini won't get 7, I'd be very very shocked if he did. Viva Ronaldo.
11 Aug 2013 22:00:31
Anybody else think Valencia returning to the number 25 could be a sign that moyes is bringing in a new number 7? Or maybe ronaldo is returning, who knows, but the number 7 shirt is now free for somebody to fill it, that much is for sure.
Daz
Surely fellani cannot be regarded as a marque player to warrant getting the number 7 shirt
11 Aug 2013 21:22:27
Just want to comment on the Rooney saga. How much of it is press related and how much of it is Rooney and Moyes related. I believe that the issue was with SAF and not the club. I also believe that Rooney wanted to train with the reserves and not the first team for fitness reasons. When we have games on a Friday and Sunday we are not going to be doing a strenuous session on the Wednesday and Thursday in case of injury. The reserves will be training harder, he will also have less contact on his shoulder with the reserves. It will be interesting to see how he performs with the reserves. It will also be interesting to see if he makes the bench for Swansea, if he does, he will definitely he staying as we aren't going to put a departing player in a travelling team.
I also think that Rooney said to SAF 'you might as well sell me if you won't play me'. This is totally different to him saying I want to leave. I think SAF did stir it, he was leaving so he could try to have the last laugh with Rooney without repercussions.
I do think that Rooney can be important for us, he needs to get fit and he needs game time. But what he needs to do most is make a statement. He needs to call a press conference and categorically explain everything to the fans - not being bitchy or dragging SAF's name through the mud. He needs to say that he never asked to leave, that he had fitness problems, that he has no problems with Moyes and that he wants to stay. This is the only way back for him (performances will also win us back over).
That's my last post on here for a couple of weeks now boys, off for a nice holiday in France! I hope the posters and all the ed's remain well and that I come back to a happy forum with plenty of signings! Take care all! {Ed007's Note - Have a nice holiday Fresh.}
There are non so blind as those who cannot sea. Wake up and smell the coffee Fresh all he has to do is come out and make one statement saying he wants to stay. His silence is deafening
Kloot, What Rooney asked for was a retraction of the statement made to the press by SAF, that he did NOT, repeat did NOT ask for a transfer. Your saying " all Rooney needs to do is make a statement saying he wants to stay at the club ". Why? Why does Rooney have to make a statement about anything. The press have printed all this crap to sell copies. If a player had to come out and make a statement every time the press printed spurious gossip, we would be having dozens of press conferences A DAY! The only time I want a statement from Wayne Rooney, is the day he puts in a transfer request. Then I would want to know why.
Agree with KLOOT to be honest, also SAF would not say Wayne wants to leave to have 'the last laugh without repercussions' he's not a child. If he did say that maybe with an idea of getting rid of Rooney it's most likely to free up the wage bill for a big player coming in. But guess we'll wait and see won't we?
Ozwald
Annie,
I am getting a little concerned with how blinkered people are about Rooney. The man is treating our club like dirt. I don't often agree with kloot and we banter a lot but on this occasion he is 100% correct.
Yes people do not need to come out and make statements about everything the press say BUT this is in the newspaper every single day, and could all be stopped by one press conference or even just a tweet by Rooney saying he loves the club and wants to stay. A certain cesc fabregas did that a few days ago and I haven't seen one story about him since.
The fact Rooney won't do that (which he would if what the papers were saying wasn't true because he would be so upset and wanting to defend himself) like kloot said, speaks volumes. I know that people defend him because they worry about the club if he leaves, but Manchester United is and always will be bigger and better than Wayne Rooney.
What a load of rubbish ozwald. Free up the wage bill for someone coming in?! If rooney goes, then we need to bring in another world class player, and what are we going to pay the new signing, 10 shillings a week? We are man United for christ sake, we should set our standards higher than wanting to free up wage bills!
Ozwald, whilst I agree about rooney I don't about SAF he does act childish when anybody goes against them he throws his toys out of the pram and kicks them out no matter how good they still are (stam) it was always his ball and if you didt play the way he wanted you to he would take his ball away. dave
Ozwald
That's exactly what Fergie did, I parting gift from Rooney's antics a couple of years ago.
Simmo
11 Aug 2013 21:12:00
Lets take an objective look at our current squad and how it compares to our rivals. First starting with our rivals.
City: I wouldn't say that they have world class players in each position, but at the very least they have good players in each position. Aguero, Hart, Kompany, Yaya Toure and David Silva are definitely the stand out players. They are the key players that I would define as world class that would not be out of place in any team. The rest are all good players but they do have weaknesses like all their other centre backs apart from Kompany.
Chelsea: Oscar, Hazard, Mata, Ramires, Cole, Cech are their world class players. Their strikers aren't too much of a worry. They have plenty of good players: Schurlle, Lampard, Ba, Ivanovic etc.
As for us, who in our squad is world class?
De Gea, Vidic, RVP, Carrick and a fully fit Rooney are without a shadow of a doubt some of the worlds finest. Rafael and Kagawa are bordering on that level and Evra once was the very best. If he can keep up todays form then there is no reason why he can't be an asset instead of a weakness. I think the pattern in our rivals is that in each section of the field, they have a world class player - and actually we do too. It is also true that we have depth, but we don't have quite so much quality at times especially in midfield. With the additions of a defensive midfielder and a creative midfielder that will all change.
Just one more point, Valencia looked good today. He was running at players and got some good balls in, he's back to his number 25 and I think he will feel more comfortable with less pressure. I think we can expect his 2011 form again.
Overall, I think we are 2 players away from European challenging team. To do that though, everyone needs to perform as best they can, Evra needs to be fully on his game with no lapses and we need a commited and fit Rooney. If we get that and also successfully employ Moyes tactics of a high work rate, hunting the ball down in packs, pressing and backing each other up when we have the ball then we will still be a top team. I think under Moyes we will actually keep the ball better and win it back better as a unit. We will also be more flexible formation wise which is a must. Moyes is trying, give him time to make his changes and get his signings.
Ramires world class?
I would highly rate Ramires and would love him here at United.
Not keen on Ramires.
G.A.G.U.S
Ramires is far better than Ando and Cleverly together. So I rate him highly too!
Two midfielders will be good, but we need to modernise our style of play. We are two sloppy and slow in possession. And generally, our play is lethargic and predictable.
Its up to Moyes and coaching staff to change that.
Nomidfield
Ramires is top quality the only reason he ain't in Brazil's starting line up is because he missed a call up and attended a family function rather then joining the national team, Add De Bruyne to that list he is a diamond would easily get into the majority if Premiership teams was Dortmunds first choice to replace Goetze.
Raymond
Ramires always scares me when we play Chelsea, wouldn't say World Class but he is a top player.
DHK
11 Aug 2013 21:08:30
I'm sick and tired of people writing negative things about today saying we were poor etc, we dominated the game from start to finish and people will say is only Wigan and yes they might not be the best team about but we can only beat what is in front of us so don't blame moyes or the team for that, your negativity will spread across fans which in a game spreads to players and we start to play bad, the season is almost upon us we need to get behind put team and have faith in them even of things go bad get even more behind them
11 Aug 2013 20:37:27
Must say I was very impressed with the reaction of DM and his staff at the final whistle. They all shook hands with each other, showing a togetherness and a commitment to share in the successes and failures. A nice touch.
DL10
One of the most bizzare things I have ever read you are impressed because they shook hands with each other. You need to go out and get laid or get wasted
Why are you so upset by someone admiring and aknowledging a good sense of team spirit running through the staff and team? It sure beats the alternative. where you also upset that Vidic gave the trophy straight to Moyes? Too much togetherness for you?
jomo
11 Aug 2013 20:16:34
We didn't really learn much about last seasons players today. Giggs was probably able to play at that pace, a pre season friendly against lower league opposition pace, but if he is first choice we will have major issues this season. However I don't expect him to be. Cleverley remains a good squad player who flatters to deceive and Welbeck doesn't present any danger to the opposition. Zaha looked ok but unsure whether to try and beat players or pass, he will be interesting as long as not overused this season but Ronaldo he isnt.
Overall I did note that we played out from the back better than before even taking the opposition standard into account. We supported the player with the ball better and were closer giving more options to pass, notable close triangles so the person with the ball had two options as we moved up the park. It was more noticeable than last season where often the person with the ball would have to look a lot further away to find a colleague.
Lastly I hope you can all see what some are trying to do with Rooney. Jose wants him and some journalists appear almost to want to destabilise United and get Rooney to Chelsea. Note the PFA said it was almost impossible for Suarez to leave Liverpool, Liverpool say he is going nowhere and its accepted but when Moyes keeps saying Rooney isn't leaving they don't accept it. Daily we read articles and listen to radio presenters suggesting United shoud give Rooney his transfer to Chelsea. Despite what Moyes says they carry the discussion on and will ask Moyes again, twist every angle. You wonder what the driver is for what now almost seems a campaign to get Rooney out of Old Trafford to Chelsea and who might be feeding the frenzy, then you realise what a destabilising effect it would have on us plus the special one would likely win the league. The thing is they have column inches to fill and think of all the column inches and radio shows they could fill about how United had handed Chelsea the league, how great Mourinho is, how United had been broken by Chelseas power, that London was at last the centre of football. We have to remember how many want our empire to fall. I genuinely hope that United hold firm and do not sell him there at any price. If they do hold firm and given Moyes statements it would be poor now if they sold him to Chelsea or anyone, then Rooney has a decision to make about his future. If he hands in a transfer request it will alienate him if the club don't sell him. Therefore he may need to make a statement about his future soon. You may not like Rooney but selling him to a major rival would be a devastating mistake for so many reasons.
Would it not though in the long run be better to cash in?
Rooney obviously wants to go and what do we gain by forcing him to stay?
If he does eventually request a transfer and we refuse it, then he's just going to sulk and stink out the dressing room.
That would be more damaging than just packing his bags.
Of course the London based media, filled with all the glory hunting scouse fan writers want to destroy us, they've been trying for 20 years.
Who says that if they sign Rooney they automatically win the league. 10 months is a long time and a lot of things can happen.
Rooney would sign an extension tomorrow if the club paid him what he wants. I am glad the club are holding firm and I hope they do not give into his demands this time round. There is no guarantee Rooney will improve on last year's form. He could be a real problem for DM next season too due to their flawed relationship. I'm sure there isn't anyone on this page who thinks Rooney deserves an improved contract?
MU will not want him to go into his final two years unhappy and they will not want him to go to Chelsea so there is a big decision to make over the next fortnight. Ideally the club would have sold to PSG, but he will insist on moving to London. Personally I think MU will sell to Chelsea for around the £35m mark. What do you think they will do Red Man? And what do you think they should do?
I noticed that our style of play was slightly different from last season. It was hard to discern what sort of formation we were using; but at a guess, it seemed like a fluid 4222 system.
I thought our passing was very good. Very good in tight spaces; and there seemed to be a nice fluidity to the team.
I think if you add Nani and Kagawa to that line up - at the expense of Giggs and Zaha - and I think that might be next weeks line-up - injuries and new signings pending.
Sydney
Moyes has made a definitive statement, if they now sell Rooney no one would trust what Moyes said in future. I think he may have to stay.
They should not sell to Chelsea under any circumstances. Sell him abroad if absolutely necessary.
I would keep him unless his relationship has completely broken down but if he goes then only abroad.
If Rooney signs for Chelsea then so be it. Based upon his form and fitness last season £35m would be a fantastic sale for us. The key is not who we sell him to but how we use the money we get for him. Today's game showed just how much we need two new midfielders and, perhaps another striker as Welbeck doesn't inspire confidence.
In an ideal world Rooney would declare his love for the club & sign a new contract for reduced wages proving his commitment & desire. I still believe he's one the best players in the league & if he's at Chelsea with Jose telling him he's the worlds best I think it could be very damaging for us. That said of they offer 40 mill I think we should take, I can see him being a rotten apple in the dressing room. I do however think he needs replacing with class, Kagawa is awesome when he's on but he's never going to chip in with goals in the way Rooney does (playing good or bad). Problem is, who replaces him?
Rooney obviously wants to leave? Have you spoken to him personally? All your doing is reading the tittle tattle in the papers, UNTIL Rooney hands in a transfer request there is no decision for Moyes to make. We read in the papers that Buttner wants to leave, it turns out that was BS too. It was also written in the press that the players had turned against Rooney, ALSO BS. Rooney trying to hold the club to ransom? He hasn`t been offered a contract extension so how is he holding the club to ransome. Rooney ask for SAFs statement to be retracted because he DIDN`T ask for a transfer that wasn`t done. Sell Rooney at your peril. rant over. All the negatives on here are outrageous, Moyes WILL do a job for this club and believe me at least one MARQUEE signing IS coming along with another 2 players to strengthen the team. FACT!!
Red Man, like SAF said Ronaldo wouldn't be sold. It means nothing. It's a way of driving the price up or scaring Rooney into accepting a lower contract offer. Rooney in all likeliness will join Chelsea for around £35m. He has no interest of moving abroad and we cannot force him to move abroad. Rooney's relationship with SAF was strained and Rooney's relationship with Moyes is probably worse. It can only end one way sadly. And I will not blame MU for any of it.
What if Rooney has totally fallen out with everyone at United and there is no chance of repairing the damage, But he point blank refuses to move abroad and is willing to sit out the rest of his contract and just cause trouble until he gets his move to chelsea. What would you do then?
Lol
Everyone gives an opinion syd gives you the 100% fact .
Syd how can you possibly know that Rooney would sign a contract at United tomorrow.
I don't think anybody really knows what's going on at United in regards to Rooney but I would be quite surprised if this is Rooneys way of getting an improved contract,
Jred
Jred, because he's never threatened to join a rival unless we give him more cash before has he? It's a contract negotiation, he wants X amount of cash, the club have another figure in mind and they cannot find a middle ground. It's how it works.
Sorry I have upset you over my comments about St Rooney.
Syd
He's far from a saint but I think this is about more than just trying to get a new deal
Jred
11 Aug 2013 20:01:15
Thought was a decent enough display in spells, it was clear as crystal where our weakness is if we can address that we will be more than ok.I was pleasantly surprised with Evra today thought he was superb, maybe thinking Baines is coming is having a positive effect on him? this is only my expectation but I think Fellaini will be announced within the next 48hrs and hopefully we are looking for someone a little more creative too, on a seperate note is there a club on earth who would not want RVP in their side what a player he also seems to have completely bought into the ethos of our club. legend in the making:)
dean1210
Van Persie is a class act, both on and off the field.
11 Aug 2013 19:34:17
I'm glad we won, and I have said that we were uninspiring in victory, for me, that's enough said. So the big question is, who is this player we are close to signing? I am betting any money that it is Fellaini. I'd also love to know if we plan to fill the number 7 or 9 shirts anytime soon!
In relation to it being unconvincing. A) It was against Wigan, who even by their standards were poor, especially in the first half hour meaning we hardly had to get out of second gear, and B) it was just a glorified friendly. As all other friendlies, the game lacked the intensity and bite that a competitive game would. Expect a much higher intensity away at Swansea next week. Overall a solid performance, set pieces looked shaky at times but a good base to start the season.
11 Aug 2013 19:02:07
With the news about Fabregas this week, United obviously need to look elsewhere. I think the most probable signing in the midfield is now Marouane Fellaini, Firstly who agrees that he could be the big player in the centre of the park (Our Yaya Toure) that we have been crying out for? And secondly, how does it take so long for United to do a deal as surely Moyes will have his targets in mind already? We need David Gill back in my opinion as I believe Ed Woodward currently lacks authority and the knowledge that Gill had when attracting players.
TomP
TomP
Tom
I am not sure the Fabregas situation is completely closed off. The statement from United after the Fabregas press conference was very unusual. We shall see.
11 Aug 2013 18:59:59
moyes has just said we are closer to a new signing who do you all think that will be?my money is on felliani
neil
Modric? He could potentially fill the number 7 shirt.
11 Aug 2013 18:33:02
What do Christiano Ronaldo, Neymar, Carlos Tevez and Adnan Januzaj have in common?
They're all born on the same day 5th of Feb
A special footballer in the making here!
A truly awesome talent, with maturity beyond his age
Ish
Just wrong in every way
Sorry Klooty. I have been watching Ad an for white a while band NHS bius a reare talent. Very mature for his age. Works for the team not for personal glory. Gifted on the ball and works guard to win it back. If he is nurtured properly he should turn out to be a gem. Watch how he quickly appraises what's going on around him and how good his vision and touch are
Red eye
11 Aug 2013 19:18:33
Guys, I was impressed with our display, and am a big fan of moyes so we need to give him are full support. We all no the problem in the midfield, but we can sort that with fellani. He is a battler and will get stuck in, all we need is fellani and baines and I will be very happy, I would like nani to get another go in the lineup. And Rooney is a must to keep hold off, I was worried before but we are united and born winners!
Marm
There seems to be quite a lot of people unhappy with today's performance, which surprise me to be honest, as I thought we looked sharp; and some of our one touch football -especially in tight spaces - was nice to watch.
11 Aug 2013 18:34:33
"I don't want to be funny but we are the champions. So third favorites? Can you explain that? I don't really care. I believe in this team and I believe that we will compete until the end again."
No wonder SAF fell in love with RVP
TS87
Legend.
dean1210
Great attitude.
Ben
11 Aug 2013 18:24:52
Fellaini won't feature in Everton's final pre-season game against Real Betis die to an 'infected cut'.
I think he's more or less a certainty.
Haha i'm sure Fellaini won't 'die' due to an infected cut :P
Hopefully he has had a haircut then.
In all seriousness, this does tie in with Moyes saying that we are edging closer to signing someone.
We said that about Thiago!
Haha! Exactly my point re Moyes. Think it'll be done over next 48 hours.
I think as many as 4 players might arrive. I suppose a lot rests on Rooney staying or leaving; but I still expect two central midfielders to join. More than anything else, we only have three natural CM to choose from, and a lot of big games coming up.
11 Aug 2013 18:21:02
Why are we focusing on these big name signings, as nice as they would be there doesn't seem to be any to likely to come off. Also we are Manchester United, we are known for sorting talent and turning it world class.
Due to this I think we should go for the cheaper signings. We need a little pitbull in the middle who isn't afraid to put in a challenge. Due to this I think we should go for Jordy Classie. Young cheap and could produce a strong Dutch link with buttner himself and RVP
19JackC94
11 Aug 2013 18:05:08
" I didn't fall out with Wayne, " said Moyes. "He trained with the reserves by his own request. Anybody who wrote anything else was misleading their readers.
"I'm quite enjoying talking about Wayne because so many of you are getting it wrong. He will not be sold.
"I want him to join up with England. He trained with us yesterday but he's not ready, you'll probably see that on Wednesday. He's had no football . He's had no match action so you wouldn't expect him to play for a long period. It will be great for United for him to get some playing time on Wednesday.
"He's not for sale."
I don't know what to make of this, I really don't. I do believe that the media have created 70% of this, but what part of it is true I wonder.
11 Aug 2013 17:37:12
{Ed007's Note - I have put a new poll up, so get voting on it:
Considering the lack of transfer activity (and it was the Community Shield against a Championship side) are you happy with the performance/result today?
www.manchesterunitedrumours.co.uk/poll4.html
11 Aug 2013 17:36:50
I think jred is trying to say he expects Fellaini to sign and play in the hole.
Sydney!
not at all syd what i'm saying is i'm not sure kagawa is a moyes type player or will fit into his system
i went through it with shappy about a month ago so not going into it to much again . but I think welbeck rooney or a new signing are more likely to play in the hole than kags
jeed
I wasn't having a dig mate. I just thought that was what you were getting at.
What do you make of Moyes' comments? Who do you think he means by closer?
Kagawa isn't a Moyes type player? he's a very similar player to Osman or Pienaar? Small technically gifted players with an eye for a pass that will work hard defensively also. Moyes favoured type of player playing behind a striker. therefore he fits perfectly into the United system under Moyes. As he did playing in a similar formation at Dortmund
Lock
I don't think he is anything like either of those players
Jred
11 Aug 2013 17:17:05
Ed do you think its just a case of Valencia feeling too much pressure of the number 7 jersey or are we going to sign a big name player who want number 7?
Ronaldo - 7 - Not completely impossible but doesn't look likely
Suarez - 7 - No way
Modric - 14(Spurs) - 10(Croatia) - 19(Madrid) - Looks more likely than others
Di Maria - 7(Argentina) - 22(Madrid) - Its possible that Di Maria would want that number 7 jersey.
Could it be Di Maria? {Ed007's Note - I think you are getting a bit too caught up in shirt numbers.}
Could be Zaha. Got told on Friday that 29 only temporary. They refused to print Zaha 29 on my sons new shirt
Real will not be selling any players and as the window is getting shorter very few team unless they need the money will be selling key players.
Shahram {Ed007's Note - I would expect a couple of players to leave Madrid before the window closes.}
11 Aug 2013 17:23:40
Moyes saying at the post match press conference we are 'closer' to a new signing.
Welsh Red
11 Aug 2013 17:14:41
Although it was a good win we are never going to win the league with a midfield of carrick giggs and cleverly. Need two centre mids and a attacking winger attacking mid or maybe even striker
Ryan mufc
11 Aug 2013 16:59:26
Well wigan must be shaking in their boots when they saw that midfield.
That is an absoloute disgrace to field that team after all those fans paid all that money to go to London
-------
Don't you worry we had a great day and it was a decent team selection from what I could see. Who were you expecting? Did you enjoy watching the game in your front room?
What other midfield did you expect strootman thiago and fabregas that's why I went to work instead
Bore,
Why don't you do other things instead of posting? What you are is a boring attention seeking Internet troll and not a real united fan.
11 Aug 2013 16:58:55
Before everyone goes all Ronaldo's coming home, take a second to think. Maybe Valencia gave up the no.7 shirt, he demanded it in the first place and he has been very critical of his performances last season and believes he does not deserve it any more, or maybe he is superstitious, you never know, just be rational guys ;)
11 Aug 2013 16:41:54
Well that was fairly uninspiring but a win is a win I suppose. We picked up a bit after the subs came on. Dread to think what would happen if RVP or Carrick got injured, we would be in real trouble.
Why oh why oh why do we keep picking Giggs and Cleverley, it's just beyond me when we have Kagawa sitting there, even Anderson was an improvement when he came on and that's saying something.
Some good stuff from Zaha and good to see Januzaj on and even Toni looked fairly sharp.
Fairly pleased overall but the cheque book really needs to come out.
A mate of mine said why don't we sign Gareth Barry, weren't sure whether to laugh or cry as he would probably be an improvement on what we have.
Anyway good luck to Wigan this season, have always had a soft spot for them but don't like their lump it up to Holt approach, he is such a bad player and a total cretin to boot.Gets paid to wrestle with opponents.
Red Daz
Good thing we had Vidic to sort him out then
Don't know why we keep playing them. It is like nothing has changed.
Nomidfield
Who else were we going to play?
Getting sick of people moaning about todays midfield.
We had 4 ioptions in the match day squad: Carrick, Cleverley and Giggs started and Anderson came on.
What other options did we have, or were we supposed to go drag Roy out of the studio for a kick around?
Yeah its irritating we haven't signed anyone, but moaning about the players who were selected changes absolutely nowt.
11 Aug 2013 16:40:48
Roy Keane: "I expect two or three player to join Manchester United in the coming days. At least one of them a central midfielder"
Andyp MUFC
Interesting but I think that is only his opinion. I doubt he has any insider information.
Keane would still be on good terms and associate with a lot of players and staff at utd
11 Aug 2013 16:40:01
To everyone speculating about Valencia not wearing no.7 and linking it to a transfer. Valencia asked to change number himself, this has been coming since Christmas last. It's not transfer related.
RedDub
If he had asked to change at Christmas time, why did he wear No.7 against Sevilla on Friday?
I just think (hope) that transfer activity could have inspired this. {Ed007's Note - Was the team maybe numbered with the traditional 1-11 on Friday?}
No Ed, usual numbers.
Brendan81
11 Aug 2013 16:17:30
All these people slating Giggs for starting really need to get a grip.
Yes he's 39 but if you didn't recognise his quality today you need to go back to preschool, yes we need a midfielder but I wish more of our players played with the concentration and desire that Ryan Giggs does. Not to mention he is still better than a lot of players out there.
Giggs should have gone 5 years ago and its not hard to be better than some players who played today
11 Aug 2013 20:09:36
Giggs played well, its always a joy to see him play. A real legend who will no doubt be a huge influence on the youth coming through.
ekd
11 Aug 2013 16:04:00
Not too bad. Good result. I'd like to see this team (depending on signings):
De gea, Rafael, Evans, vidic, evra, Carrick, Modric*, fellaini*, then Rvp zaha and kagawa.
Thoughts?!
Nozzla
A replacement for Evra . I'd prefer Vidal and Fabregas. Maybe buy a CB and give Smalling a season long loan as I think injuries have hampered him some what.
Mad Hatter
11 Aug 2013 16:02:41
has United taken the 7 shirt off valencia?
tomr
11 Aug 2013 16:00:19
Well that was exciting.Edge of my seat is worn out! If we don't sign a couple of decent players to improve our starting 11 we are in trouble this season. They don't even need to be 'world class' as many of you are demanding. World class is a term used too loosely these days, but what we need is
Shut up! Christ on a bike. We won, what more do you want? Wigan have a better team than last season & they took some real scalps last term. We got the result, onwards & upwards.
This was just a reasonable performance.
I would not read too much into it. Firstly it was at Wembley and the atmosphere was distinctly average. Secondly it was not our strongest team that we played.
Having said that I would like to see some more excitement too. Lingard and Junazaj should get more playing time and it would have been good to see Buttner get a run out. As a positive both Zaha and Welbeck played well as did Carrick, Vidic and Evra. One or two name signings would also help - I'm thinking Baines and Bale. Giggsy will be more of a coach than a player this season.
11 Aug 2013 15:56:57
Just noticed that Valencia isn't number 7 anymore, is the king coming home or am I just getting ahead of myself
L.A.7
11 Aug 2013 16:05:33
Erics been retired for a few years now
Haha I'd still have him back, I ment Ronny though
L.A.7
The King was there and got introduced to the teams
Your right there kloot
Kloot
The "real King" as my old man says.
Rk16
11 Aug 2013 15:56:30
Mayb shouldn't read to much into this as much as i'd like to bt Valencia was wearin no25 today and not his usual no7, I wonder if that means the return of Ronny or another big signing.id like to thk so! Thomo
11 Aug 2013 15:46:41
Gets a lot if stick but how well did evra play today
He was excellent today. But can he do it consistently against better teams?!
Nozzla
Played well going forward, didn't have anything to do defensively. Thankfully.
Thought he had a really good game myself, we definitely need a midfielder in soon though, we will get ripped apart against the title contenders otherwise.
Even a couple of well played crosses! Lol
11 Aug 2013 15:39:45
Please don't let RVP get injured this year otherwise we will not score goals. Watching utd today reminds me of a hard to beat, bit dull to watch team from merseyside. hmmm
11 Aug 2013 15:27:09
hi eds, just looking for the Fantasy football league codes. I'm sure G.A.G.U.S set up a dream team league but I can't find details using the term 'dreamteam' with the search function.
I did note down a pin of 8054932 from a previous post but I don't recognise any names in this league.
hope you can help. thanx!
Www.dreamteamfc.com/
PIN: 8054932
Password: password
Than for confirming that g.a.g.u.s. like I say, don't recognise any names on there. have posters on this site used different ones for their fantasy football teams?
11 Aug 2013 15:09:26
Well, from what I have seen pre season and in the first 45 mins today, I would say that what we are missing is a real quality CM instead of Cleverley and the same but on the left hand side. PERSONALLY, I think if we got those 2 players we would be in a very good position this season. Yes, we would like Evra replaced and ideally a striker to replace Rooney, but I don't PERSONALLY think they are essential this summer.
If we could get a Gundogan/Vidal in at CM and someone like Draxler on the left, we would be in a great position especially with Januzaj, Lingard, the Keanes, Henriquez etc coming through. Then next summer we would replace Evra and find long term replacements for Carrick and Van Persie I'd guess.
I'll get slated no doubt as our squad/1st team are obviously rubbish going by what people on here say and we need to spend £150m at least. We should really be expecting a relegation fight from reading the posts on here, anything else is going to be a bonus now I guess :-)
Brendan81
Good post and I agree just those 2 additions would give us a real chance. Trouble is, I think both Vidal and Gundogan are almost unattainable this summer so if that's the case I hope we have other options. I'm a big Modric fan but he lacks a bit of bite that the other 2 offer. Would still be a big upgrade though.
I'd love to get Baines in for Evra but we could probably cope for 1 more season if it meant getting a top CM and LW. Evra actually looked good today but granted he didn't have to do much defending.
HB i'd like Baines now too but i'd rather give Shaw another year and then put in an offer to good to refuse next summer, great player and young. Rather pay £20m+ if he has another good season, than around the same on a much older Baines personally. If we went for Modric I would probably spend an extra £8.5m for Kondogbia, worth every penny in my eyes.
Brendan81
11 Aug 2013 14:58:10
Just been looking at some other posts and replies etc and feel there is way to much BS flying around.
I feel we've been made to look very amature like in this window. The whole Thiago and Fabregas saga was a complete embarrassment and now supposedly in for Modric? Why when like someone else said he's turned us down countless times before! As for looking at other Madrid players. Real are definitely going to be over run with wingers once the Bale deal eventually goes through. As much as Ronaldo coming home would absolutely delight me. I can't see it happening. The young Spanish winter someone else mentioned (whose name escapes me) I believe will stay at Madrid. For me I wouldn't mind Di Maria especially as he is a left sided player! I think continued bids for Baines and Fellaini will continue and we will probably sign both for hugely inflated prices! We should have gone all out straight away for Jovetic and Thiago in my opinion!
11 Aug 2013 14:51:27
No number 9, no number 7 and soon enough no number 10. I say we sign players for 7 and 10 and give Chicha the 9 Jersey
Wondered why Valencia has changed his number, is there anything in the Ronnie rumours, I really doubt it but would love it to be true.
11 Aug 2013 14:48:48
Whilst it is positive that we create one chance and score one goal, it is a little worrying that we have only created one chance in the first half and it was a half chance at that.
Wigan have grown into the game. We need midfield reinforcements. Mr Woodward, hear me know!
11 Aug 2013 14:48:38
I don't want to sound miserable, but we really are playing some uninspiring football. It's SO boring and unimaginative. We have good technical players in RVP, Kagawa and one or two others, but we desperately need one of Fabregas, Modric or Cabaye. Personally I hope we grab one of those and then Gundogan next season.
Fresh I totally agree the lack of creativity in the team is awful. Which is how we played most of the time last season. Still a few weeks left in the window hope to see something done about it soon.
11 Aug 2013 14:16:26
Valencia's changed his number back to 25 from 7. Does this mean anything or is there significance to it? {Ed044's Note - Word is that Suarez is signing.}
Nice one Ed
Brendan81
Haha Ed good one.
I hope not!
11 Aug 2013 14:10:57
Wow! Giggs, Giggs! As player/ Coach, I think he shouldn't be playing much this season. Since he still wants to play and he belongs to this team, I respect that. But himself and Moyes must be careful when giving the younger guys an opportunity.
We have to preserve the future of this kids and not get stuck on the past. Don't get me wrong, Giggs is not a bad player, but I don't think he should play much this season ahead of Kagawa or Januzaj. Some games his experience will be needed, I know that too.
Jus wishing a great game for the lads.
11 Aug 2013 13:56:25
No number 9 and now no number 7 something
is happening this week deffo
REDMIST
Or Valencia just didn't want to play as number 7 because the pressure was too much. I can't see us signing a new number 7, not a winger anyway.
Suspect Zaha will get one of. Wouldn't print Zaha 29 at the ground on Friday
11 Aug 2013 13:40:44
How much I want united to win today as it is badly need one. A win today will boost the team for a good start with a difficult season a head. Make no mistake Wigan is good team and midfield and striker options are good.
A bit surprised that Adnan is not in starting line up and Giggs is starting in midfield.
However, I believe Zaha will play today his best and may be on the scoring sheet for us.
Keep fingers cross and get behind the players and manager
Yayyyyy!!
11 Aug 2013 13:38:13
Interesting to see that Valencia will be wearing the 25 shirt after requesting not to use the no. 7. I wonder who will be getting that number this season. Hmmmmmmmm.
Funny months ago it was claimed this was going to happen. People were told when buying shirts that he was unlikely to remain number 7. People rubbished it.
11 Aug 2013 13:38:11
Giggs starting today is a farce. It just shows how weak we are in the middle. I thought Anderson was fitter? Give him a go. We must buy central players before the end of the month if not the end of this coming week.
Two mid field players at least. And let's see how evra does. Plus if Rooney goes that's another player needed!
Time to open the wallet.
Come on united. Win today would be a good start.
Nozzla.
11 Aug 2013 13:46:34
oh no
giggs.
why in the world can't a youngster play instead of a guy way past his sell on date
ngiak can't believe it
spoilt such great expectations of a new season. :(
gan
11 Aug 2013 13:45:49
I have to agree with what has been said by some of the pundits on ITV have said. Firstly, Keane is right in that we should let Rooney go if he wants to. It is also true that it is a bit of a joke that Giggs, who is now a player coach, is first choice . He's 40 for god sake. Player coaches are the sorts of things that Barnet use, I'm not saying Giggs is bad, but he should play a few games per season max, not still be first choice and start games. We really need one of two midfielders.
Other than that, like the formation, I would be happy to play this a lot this season if we could get one or two more midfielders. Kagawa could play in a front 3 as the deepest lying anyway so it would be good.
11 Aug 2013 13:35:40
I posted about a month ago I couldn't see where katana would fit into a d moyes team, I still don't
Kagawa even
Kagawa is a week or two behind everyone else in terms of fitness. He returned from his summer break early to play in the Japanese fixtures.
Doesn't change my opinion
Moyes seems to like the 4-3-3 so if Kagawa can fit it would probably mean in a midfield three. So you could be right Jred. We would know more when we sign some players.
I think he will also play 4_4_1_1 a lot I think he will play a player with a bit more presence in the hole than kags
Jred
Like RvP?
11 Aug 2013 15:59:02
Such as who. Your seeing things that are not there.
I can't see rvp playing that many games in the hole I think moyes will play him as the main striker which is his best position
I think jred is trying to say he expects Fellaini to sign and play in the hole.
Syd
Wrong again pal, what I'm saying is I don't see where kags fits in a moyes team . Explained to shappy about a month ago why so I'm not going over it again .welbeck Rooney or a new signing is more likely to play in the hole this season imo
11 Aug 2013 13:14:55
Just seen the line up that the ed has put up, do we know who is on the bench? If Januzaj isn't I expect he and we will be mightly pissed off. He out of everyone deserves it.
11 Aug 2013 12:58:41
{Ed004's Note - Team news - United: De Gea; Rafael, Vidic, Jones, Evra; Zaha, Carrick, Cleverley, Giggs; Van Persie, Welbeck. Wigan: Carson; Boyce, Barnett, Perch, Crainey; Watson, McArthur, McCarthy; McClean, Holt, Maloney}
Christ that's a rubbish team lineup hope that isn't a prelude for next season
It's a good Wigan line-up today. Possibly better than the FA Cup winning side. I am going for 3.1 United.
Sydney!
Well wigan must be shaking in their boots when they saw that midfield.
That is an absoloute disgrace to field that team after all those fans paid all that money to go to London
Interesting to see ToniV wearing the No.25 again, no number 9 either, something in the works.
The midfield that won the EPL last season, disgrace isn't it!
Dylan
We didn't have a 9 last season as I recall.
DHK
11 Aug 2013 12:35:31
My Line up for today
DDG RAFA RIO EVANS EVRA CARRICK ANDO KAGAWA ZAHA ADNAN RVP
In a 433/4231 formation
11 Aug 2013 11:51:19
Hoping to see Januzaj and zaha start either side of kagawa today
11 Aug 2013 11:24:49
Lets have one last cheeky fabregas public bid. 40m plus add-ons I reckon.
He had to say what he said the other week other wise fans would hate him.
Lets start off the merigo round, we get Cesc, barca have money for luiz, Chelsea get Rooney, offload Torres back to Liverpool and Suarez gets his arsenal move.
19JackC94
Personally i'd just send off loads of bids for players and see what replies we get back. Go bid for Modric, Fellaini, Gustavo, Fabregas all at the same time, sure we'll get knocked back on a few, but what's with all this one at a time crap its wasting too much time.
11 Aug 2013 10:58:56
Forget transfers in outs, its time for action, come on Moyes bring your first trophy for united
11 Aug 2013 10:39:40
Any predictions for the line up today folks?! I'd like to see another 4-3-3. Kagawa as the most advanced of the midfield 3, his work rate and vision would be awesome just in front of Carrick and maybe Anderson. Hope Nani is fit again, wouldn't mind seeing him have some good form!
Moyes confirmed that Nani and Rooney aren't fit for the game, didn't he?
Nicolas_United
I think it will be:
De Gea, Rafael, Vidic, Evans, Evra, Kagawa, Carrick, Jones, Zaha, RVP, Young.
Probably in a 4-3-3 / 4-4-1-1.
I believe it will be DDG, Rafael, Vidic, Jones, Evra, Carrick, Giggs, Zaha, Kagawa, Welbeck, RVP. (Mark it down) But its possible that he plays another CM (ando), and pushes Giggs forward into either Welbeck or Zaha's attacking spot. Hope not, let's score some goals and win a trophy!
Good luck for your boy. I hope he buys in today!
Think Young has been ruled out too!
I'd go with
Rafa-Evans-Vidic-Evra
Ando---Carrick
Zaha--Kagawa--Welbeck
--RvP--
Might see Giggs start though, would like to see Januzaj start because he's not had a single bad game thus far but think Moyes will go with more experience. Maybe Welbeck on the right, Kagawa in the centre then Giggs on the left.
Ozwald
11 Aug 2013 10:22:04
Hoping we can shut the critics up today & put in a performance. My sons first live match. Come on boys, show him why I've been hooked all these years.
Up the United.
I think we will route them today and shut people up. 4-1 I say.
Shahram
Hope you're mate. We need a win today, get the confidence flowing & everyone behind DM.
We are not playing Wigan the Championship side today, we are playing the side that beat City in the FA Cup final. So do not expect a cricket scoreline lads. They have added Holt & McClean to an already decent side. I will go for 3.1.
R we playing the same Wigan that got relegated
Wigan was relegated over the course of a season, this is 90 minutes of football. Last season they destroyed Everton over 90 minutes and beat City and Spurs.
Not expecting a cricket score mate. Just a good perferomance to shut my Liverpool mates up. So far it's been too easy, I'm hoping Wigan pressing more means us upping it.
Never needed to come out of 1st gear. DDG had no save to make.
11 Aug 2013 10:21:00
Heard we at least made enquiries about Vidal, and were told no, that's a positive in a way cause he is exactly what we need. Gustavo could do a good job for us but would need a playmaker too so IF we are really after Modric would be great ( I doubt he'd want to leave Real though) . So in short i'd be happy with a left back and Gustavo and let the young talents we have develop, would probably a couple of lean years trophy wise but we should still be top 4 and give the youngsters invaluable European experience.
Mo I don't want us to be just top 4, and that would be worst case but if it we meant we came back much stronger I'd take it.
11 Aug 2013 10:17:01
What are people thinking of adnan januzaj and Jesse lingard? I for one am excited to see them feature for us this season, januzaj in particular. Wouldn't mind seeing one in today's game!
I don't think he can afford to use them much Moyes MUST do well or he's going to be crucified let's hope todays team isn't what we can expect all season
Yeah fair play, I absolutely agree! Would be nice though to see what could be one of our future best players make a few appearances. I'm still hoping we get someone to support carrick in midfield
11 Aug 2013 09:12:37
Does anyone think we should try for Schweinsteiger as with the players Pep has at his disposal he might find his playing time restricted and could be open to a move.
Solskjaer_1999
Why on earth would Schweinsteiger a) not get playing time at Munich when he's there best all-round midfielder and b) leave Munich for us at the present time?
I can't wait for the Wesley posts to re-start.
A) I didn't suggest he wouldn't play, just think with Goetze & Thiago coming in that he might perceive his playing time may diminish.
B) Isn't his brother a big United fan? Could always be tempted to to join us.
I agree with your point that he has no reason to move but he is the sort of player we should aspire to sign.
Solskjaer_1999
He is probably in the top 3 best midfielders in the world and even Guardiola would not have the clout to mess with him. Bayern is run by ex bayern players and he is thorough and thorough bayern, so no chance I say.
Shahram
He didn't play much preseason using Thiago in his normal position
11 Aug 2013 08:16:38
"One supporter I know of is so worried, he actualy said to me, 'has there ever been a team that has won the league and the following season they got relegated?" >>>>
Whilst not the complete post, that is without a shadow of a doubt the most mind numbingly stupid comment I have ever read on this site. Jesus christ as unlikely as it is I find it disturbing that I could have sat in the same ground as this moron!
Timbo
It was a stunning post. We have some dramatic supporters but that comment is bordering on unbelievable
11 Aug 2013 07:42:25
Woodward was spectacularly successful bringing in sponsorship deals but in doing so has created a level of expectation commercially in his new role that should bring transfers into sharp focus.
RedMan, Woodward wasn't responsible for generating sponsorship income - his background is in corporate finance (he's a banker in other words). He was an adviser to the Glazers when they bought into the club, got invited onto the board and, surprise surprise, got promoted to CEO when Gill went. Perhaps this explains our clueless approach to transfers this summer.
Noname
What do you think sponsorship is other than financing United's corporate body? Corporate finance is NOT the same as banking.
My understanding is that Woodward was an integral part of the team that's sought and negotiated United's recent sponsorship deals. These are huge undertakings and will be delivered by multiple people (and multiple lawyers).
Sponsorship deals and transfer deals aren't the same thing, so there's no guarantee that just because he can do the former that he can do the latter.
However, I suspect our fault this summer may have been not lining up our back-up targets as well as we should, given the complexity and size of our prime targets (Fabregas and Ronaldo). Equally, it's not September 2nd yet. There's plenty of time for things to finish.
To the no name
Can I recommend checking what Woodward has been doing before posting. In 2007 he assumed responsibility for the commercial and media operations and developed and implemented a new overall commercial strategy for the club. This resulted in a new structured approach to commercialising the brand, including developing the sponsorship strategy, led out of the London office.
11 Aug 2013 07:17:36
I've been feeling a bit unloved at work so I'm going to call in sick for a while. Sadly, I'm likely not to get paid and possibly sacked, especially oif I can't prove I'm sick. And I don't earn over £200K per week. It's all, well, and good the owners digging their heels in and yes yes, I know we will need to replace him, but it's time for Wayne to take his over inflated opinion of himself off to neither club. It's sad that it has come to this but the root of it lies in the 'lacks ambition' transfer request. He could have been the next Captain, he could have broken all the records, he could have been a legend. Sadly, for reasons best known to him and his agent it is not to be.
11 Aug 2013 06:55:52
we need at least 1 world class midfielder and to keep rooney until a equal replacement is found which I don't think will be cheap! evra has been suspect for 2 yrs so moyes must see this no matter wot input he has on the dressing room
11 Aug 2013 02:46:22
I so wanted to be a liverpool fan growing up the team they had was winning everything, I thought I had the misfortune of a father who supported manchester united, my father insisted I became a manchester united fan and that's what happened.manchester united was a club that dreamt of the league but the fans knew the fa cup was the best chance of silverware and we had some success in that competition.I was 19 years old before we won the premiership for the 1st time in the 92/93 season and the emotion from the wait of all those years without the title is something I will never forget.Manchester united have rode the crest of the wave thanks to sir alex fergusons genius ever since.This post is directed at all the negative posters on this site who in all probability have never known anything else get over yourselves and stop boring the rest of us who know better.I still think this team and management will strive forward to more success.
nellym"""
dear mr nellym
ngiak may have a similar story to you
late 70s and 80s were hell
but a little penguin saw the badge, saw the red devil, saw the sleeping giant underdog and saw the swashbuckling style
his flippers, heart and soul were convinced for life
the wheel seems to be turning yet another cycle
on one hand, dear sir, you are right
ngiak is embarrassed to have fellow fickle minded fans like these
but on the other
ngiak also sees the fear and pain and the desperation in the voices of the die hards
this is the stuff of the Manchester United forum
ngiak thinks we are spoilt by success
ngiak also thinks we have success in our blood
the voice of the fans need to be heard - good or bad
cos we certainly are a part of the club and the history
but when the season starts
ngiak believes
the voices now have to be directed towards and for. the team and the manager
we and the club are vulnerable. but we the fans must shoulder the responsibility of carrying the club until mr david moyes and the youngsters find their feet
ngiak asks.
can you "so called" Manchester United football club fans
stand up together and show the pride and the prestige and the ethos of the club
stand up and be counted in the club's hour of need
gan
Penguins have a life span of 19 years.
Well said my Antarctic friend, let's all stick together and enjoy supporting our team through the transition
For a penguin your words are indeed poetic and touching.I find myself sitting in my United shirt super excited for the curtain raiser today reading your post with my hand on the badge.God bless you crazy penguin:)
11 Aug 2013 10:08:02
Totally agree, my first final was 76 followed by the high of 77 beating the scousers
Robson arrived and we progressed but I will remember the 93 season as long as I live and for me that was the high followed by unbelievable 99
We have been spoilt by fergie
Get behind the team come what may
United we stand
Big kev
Hi gan/ngiak good post. I like reading your post, don't know how u do it but I like the way it sound's when read it, awesome mate keep it up.zee:)
Gan
"Club's hour of need"? Seriously?
This is exactly what I've been saying about everyone being melodramatic. The club had a real, genuine hour of need in 1958 - a point where it may not even have continued if it hadn't been for the efforts of Jimmy Murphy.
And here we all are, the summer after we've won the league, talking about crisis points and disaster and hours of need. I agree we all need to get behind the new manager, but so much of the banter on these pages has lost any sense of perspective it's untrue.
Well said DarkLard, some people have gone off the deep end.
11 Aug 2013 00:30:40
First time poster here. Just a quick word to the eds for doing such a great job. Keep up the good work!
First things first! I have never felt so excited yet so nervous at the beginning of a new season. I think tomorrow will give a very good indication of how we will shape up come the first day of the premier league season. I personally, can not wait!
Now I understand some of the fans disappointment with there being no major activity in the transfer market, BUT the negativity of the some of the fans is ridiculous. I believe we will make some signings, and whoever we do bring in, WILL improve our squad. As fans of this great and historic club, we should be supporting and backing the new regime as much as possible, rather than doubting everything we have done so far in pre-season. Yes pre season. Has it occurred to some of you that the season is yet to start? Give Mr Moyes a chance before opening your mouths and being so harsh and negative!
Although we did win the league by a mile in the end, our football was not to the standard we expected it. I believe Moyes will address this and we will see much better football being played this season. We may or may not win the title but we will make steps in becoming a much better footballing side. This will help us in Europe especially, as some of our performances in the champions league recently, barring Madrid last season, have been quite poor. Do not underestimate Moyes. He is a proper student of the game and has gone out of his way to learn as much as he can about it. I read an article recently where he talked about trying to get funding from the PFA to go to the 98 world cup and learn more about the game by watching how teams take their training sessions. In the end, only the Scotland manager gave him access but he still took the opportunity to gain as much knowledge as he could. You can see why Sir Alex has picked Moyes. Brining in Mourinho or Pep would have only been good for the short term. We need to have long term success and do the things the United way. He gives youth a chance and gets the best out of his players. With a stronger squad to manage now, it will be very interesting to see what he can do. Again, as fans we should give him a proper chance. Voice your opinions after the end of the new season and see where we are at.
In regards to Rooney, I really don't know if he will stay or go. I am certain however, that he will not be sold without a big signing coming in first. I will be very surprised if we sell him and do not buy anyone. If he stays, great! If he goes, good luck. We are bigger than one player and we have always had this stance in the past, why change now? I am glad we were bidding for the likes of Fabregas. It shows Moyes has identified midfield as our weak spot and has gone all out to fix it. If in the end we sign Fellaini, Baines and one more player, whoever it may be, we will go some way to improving out first eleven.
Eagerly awaiting tomorrows game! Come on United! Win, lose or draw, get behind our team!