Manchester United Banter Archive May 11 2014

 

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11 May 2014 22:12:31
Could someone please remind me of the price quoted to Chelsea for shaw in jan. Thanks in advance

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11 May 2014 23:08:28
All the talk of 30 million is apparently false according to editor from what I remember, so I'm guessing a but more

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11 May 2014 21:43:52
So do people think £27m will get the Shaw deal done?

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No I don't think so. Jim White also said he thought Southampton will wait out for more if they do sell.

Interesting though is a lot depends on what Southampton do in the next few days in regards to their next 'plan', Pochettinos future and whether or not they plan to spend more in the window. We are kind of dependent on external circumstances on this one.

So keep your ears open on what they do in the next few days as it will be heavily indicative of whether or not they will be willing to sell Shaw.

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11 May 2014 22:23:38
I've heard a rumour that the deal is close to being finalised. £27 million plus buttner. Evra is signing for another year.

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I should think so. If anything, it is too much IMO. The lad is worth 25 tops.

I was personally hoping for a new CM player to be the first player signed. That said, signing Shaw would be a good start. No doubt he will go on to be one of the worlds top left backs.

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Gman. Is Evra stopping to teach Shaw how to defend? Great

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Raiden, if MU pay what Southampton want, then they will sell him.

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They say that you learn by making mistakes, so perhaps Shaw can learn by having Evra there to make the mistakes for him.

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Deal should get done in the next few days. The player wants the move :)

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Well that's statement is synthetic a priori, Sydney, so obviously you're not wrong. My point is, what determines whether or not Southampton are even willing to sell him depends on the circumstances of the club (TBD in the next few days/week) or upon an offer so ridiculous that rejecting it would be foolish.

Basically if Pochettino goes the club is trying to consolidate, and £27 million probably would be enough, if he stays they'll wait out for more or not sell.

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Raiden, I don't think Poch has anything to do with it. Talks have been taking place for a while despite what Mr Reed has said. MU want LS, he wants to join and it's a simple case of negotiation.

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11 May 2014 21:33:12
is van gaal having second thoughts over how big rebuilding is going to be only some papers say he has signed nothing and dose not now if he wonts the job I hope not or we are in rubbish street

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11 May 2014 21:45:38
Papers just trying to kick us again.

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United dithering again.
Just appoint the Man and let him get on with it.

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11 May 2014 20:28:28
Who do you think would be a better fit in our midfield, Strootman or Carvalho? Just a thought. Vidal would be the best, but I don't think he'll move.

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Our midfield needs a complete overhaul. On that basis it comes down to who is the better player. At the moment it's Strootman. In the long run it will probably be Carvalho.

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Why are people jumping on the Strrotman band wagon again? He's injured and will be injured for a few more months so there is no point even thinking about him as a potential target. Carvalho and Vidal are two very different types of players. the former is an out and out defensive mid, but has great potential to grow into a more rounded CM, while the later is already the finished article and probably in the top 5 and maybe even top 3 in the world in terms of central midfielders. IMO the best fit for us would be Carvalho/Blind and Vidal/Fabregas. two are definitely needed!

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Strootman and W. Carvalho are different players. Personally I think Kroos and Carvalho this window and Strootman in January when fit. Gradually over hauling the midfield, Fletcher, Cleverley and Fellaini to be replaced by those three?

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11 May 2014 21:43:28
Carvalho however isn't currently recovering from a longterm injury. Strootman realistically won't be an option until summer 2015 and much depends on if roma want to sell after getting him back to fitness.

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I really not a big fan of strootman there ate much better players out there.
And that was before he done his knee

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He's expected to be fit by August Andy.

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Strootman is so average and you lot need to watch players more often than reading the funny papers.

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11 May 2014 20:22:10
What on earth is going on with the big 3 in Spain?

Their points percentages over the past three games have all plummeted.

Real Madrid - 2 points (22% vs 80% in the first 34 games)
Barcelona - 5 points (55% vs 79% in the first 34 games)
Atletico Madrid - 4 points (44% vs 83% in the first 34 games)

I know it's not uncommon for a team to slip up (see Liverpool) - but for all three teams competing for the title to capitulate at the same time is unheard of.

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Real Madrid have completely choked. I can't believe Barca will win the league again. Athletico have really let a opportunity that will be hard to come by again go by. I missed all the football today but some of the results are unbelievable across most european leagues. It all started with the french league last night :)

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11 May 2014 19:01:35
Anychance of us signing memphis depay?

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11 May 2014 20:00:34
Looks like he has top class potential and a good alternative to the dreamland targets of Reus/Di Maria/Griezmanm etc

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JF - I don't think any of the targets you list are 'dreamland' in the slightest. If we really wanted to sign Di Maria or Griezman I've every belief that we could have last summer (due to Di Maria's form this season I'm not so sure they'd be interest in selling him right now though). Reus is only unlikely in as much that I don't Dortmund would be interested in selling this summer - but when they're ready to cash in I'm sure we will be in the mix and think a big enough offer this summer could tempt them if Reus is who the new manager asks for.

Depay is very talented given his age but at present isn't too much better than Cleverley. Given the state of our current squad I think we need to be looking at players who are significantly better than what we have - not players who will be significantly better in two or three years.

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11 May 2014 21:53:28
Redseven: i'd love for you to be right and for me to be wrong but I just can't see many of the top players being available this summer
Reus - as you've said is probably the most unlikely to happen but he's a life long Dortmund fan and they have a project going on there that he firmly believes in and would be a vital component of that so I can't see him wanting to leave or being available at the right price at all, plus other teams would be ahead of us in terms of finance and football because we can't offer CL
Di Maria - similar to Reus except he's settled in Madrid and ancelotti rates him highly so likewise I can't see him being available
Griezmann - if he has an impressive world cup then we will be priced out and he will choose other clubs before us for European football so he won't come to us, even if he doesn't then there will still be teams further ahead of us in the queue to sign him IMO

I'd love to be wrong but I just don't have particularly high hopes for the short term; it'll be a while before we're back competing again. Back to Depay he looks like a player with real potential and in a 4-3-3 could thrive like he is at PSV especially around some better players

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R s I think you should watch depay again if you think cleverly is in anyway a comparison, totally different type of player, anyway my point is that now van gaal is coming in we could maybe get some of the next generation of Dutch players coming through, depay is a very exciting skillful attacking midfielder and one for the future.

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MG. I was using Clevs as an example because I couldn't think of anybody else at United around that level. They are different types of player in terms of the positions they play; but in terms of 'skill' or whatever you want to call it - they are not too dissimilar.

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11 May 2014 18:51:02
So that's that,,, season over, congrats to city and hard lines Liverpool, Gerard deserved to lift the premiership, but I think it was now or never for him, I maybe wrong but with the likes of arsenal, city, Chelsea and ourselves looking to spend big it could become even harder for them, although Liverpool will look to spend big,, just not city/Chelsea big. We all no this transfer window is massive for the club, we must get this right but I have a bad feeling we will miss out on what we think are general targets,, I think Kroos, reus, muller, di maria are fantasy targets, if any of them where to become available I would expect major completion to come in. LVG has to demand the players he wants, none of this 25mill for fabregas, just pay the asking price and get the deal done, luke shaw is a must for me and at 25-30 mill could be a bargain he is the future of England but Chelsea will put a bid in, the gossip on carvalho has gone quiet but from what I have seen he looks like the player we have needed since Roy keane, fingers crossed for a good transfer window

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Why did Gerrard deserve to lift it over Toure?

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Gerrard deserved to lift nothing accept a hankie to the tears of Suarez.

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Liverpool got well ahead of themselves and thought they had it in the bag. BR was saying his only regret was Carragher leaving a year early. Carragher after the City game saying it's all over. Liverpool fans celebrating it prematurely. Gerrard deserves nothing, he let it slip, literally!

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That was funny Sydney!
But guys it's not nice to see city buying the league or would it be nice to see Liverpool win but Gerard deserves it in IMO,

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The best team won the title. Liverpool, despite having the best player in the league, bottled it and deserve to miss out.

I find it hilarious how pool fans are now saying how this was a fantastic season despite missing out on the title because at the start of the season their target was Champions League football next season. That in itself says a lot about just what a small club they are.

For us, City and Chelski - any season without winning the title is viewed as a poor one. Admittedly, on that basis, our season has been a catastrophe - but we'll come back fighting next season. Liverpool, on the other hand.

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Why does Gerrard deserve it?

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Quality fly over at anfield today - united 20 Gerard 0 . Ha ha ha ha

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McLovin, what do you think Liverpool have been doing for three seasons? City aren't the only club in the league spending what they do not have. They aren't the only club failing the FFPR. Liverpool are failing them too and spending their owner's cash.

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Amateur posts syd

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11 May 2014 17:39:04
Hey ed, do you know if for midfield its one of William Carvalho and Kevin Strootman or both? Also, would the two of them work well as a midfield pairing?

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{Ed004's Note - I don't even tho if we are after one of them let alone both. They would work together tho}

11 May 2014 18:10:33
I'm only asking this because they are both the same nationality, but that is sometimes the case. If we do get LVG then is there a possibility of us going for Willems? (I know he's currently injured)

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I think Shaw is in the bag more or less, can't see anyone else coming in.

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I don't think Willems is that likely. At least I've not seen anything about it at all. It always tends to happen at any club that players of the same nationality of the manager get linked in regardless of whether or not there is any truth to it. My Southampton supporting brother got very angry last year when everyone was just linked random Argies to his club.

I suppose it's a possibility what with him working in the national team, but it'd probably only be one other player if any. Personally wouldn't mind it though, he's a very talented player and he wouldn't cost a bomb like Shaw would.

I think Reus has to be our main target. We have so few players who like to get inbetween the lines and make runs beyond the defence. Too often we have had to try and pass or cross it in the season. So I very much hope we sign him, if the interest is genuine.

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I also agree and think we will get shaw to be honest. Just thought there might be a chance we were in for Willems. Not to sure about reus though as there will be plenty of interest IF he becomes available. And although each and every one of us would choose united over anywhere else, he will probably be more likely to chose somewhere wplaying CL. I hate to say it, but that's the reality of it

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11 May 2014 17:53:45
So that's it, the nightmare is over. Now let's hope Woodward doesn't screw up and we get the manager we want and the players he wants. Another last day of hoping City win and Liverpool lose is unthinkable. I'm still not confident of Woodward. It can still go horribly wrong! The biggest club in the world had getter start acting like the biggest club in the world!

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I think van Gaal or one of his representatives will be with him at every meeting.

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Last summer I spent much too much time on news websites checking up on all the wonderful signings we were going to make. Let's hope this summer will not be as disappointing.

At the end of last year IMO there still existed a belief amongst certain board members that we could continue to garner success without a midfield. Winning the championship had created a false sense of security. That belief must surely now have been well and truly squelched. It would be a mistake to take half measures based on the delusion that the problem was Moyes, as inappropriate as he may have been.

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11 May 2014 17:37:07
i must say I feel sorry for gerrard.
he must be gutted.
to come so close.
and not sign for chelsea when he had the chance!

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Ha ha ha ha!

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11 May 2014 17:30:36
Although it's been a miserable season let's look on the bright side( of life). The scousers have blown probably the only chance they had of winning the league in the near future and the Glazers have been made to realise that without massive spending on players, their investment will soon decline.

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11 May 2014 16:59:58
Hi Guys

Thank God that this season is over and done with.Seventh place is just not good enough for a team like us but we don't deserve any better this season.
Eds do you think there will be an announcement this week about our new manager as I think it is imperative that the majority of our business is done sooner rather than later.
United till I die

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{Ed004's Note - Hopefully there is more news this week}

He has a press conference with the Dutch training camp on Tuesday, so prob Wednesday or Thursday.
Unless we announce tomorrow morning, we need to start moving forward

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It would be great if it's tomorrow, but I think Wednesday or Thursday is more likely. Mind you, I am sure it would be tempting for MU to do it tomorrow and steal the headlines away from City's league win.

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11 May 2014 16:04:39
Myself and Sydney have both said that we are fairly confident on certain targets. I know that I have said that I believe that we will sign certain players. So I'm going to nail my cards to the table. At present, I think that we will sign Shaw, Kroos & Reus. I am not sure we will get W. Carvalho, not sure as to who at centre back but I believe we will target LvG. I don't see the Cavani deal going through. I do however feel that if these deals go through and we have time, I think we may look for another winger like Volland to rotate with Welbeck and Januzaj. I also think that van Gaal may go for a utility player who can play in many positions like Blind, this will mean that we can have 1 player to cover a few positions rather than a larger squad, thereby giving yougsters a chance. Vidic is clearly leaving, Ferdinand may stay for a season if we need cover, Evra is going to go. The only winger that I see a future for is Valencia, maybe Zaha but I doubt it. These are my feelings towards how the summer will go.

Sydney, are you going to do the same as I have done and confirmed who you think will be coming in?

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We can all read the newspapers

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Fresh what do you base your confidence about incoming players on?

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11 May 2014 17:51:36
I think someone like Blind is an interesting shout. A good utility would be useful. Better than round pegging square holes. I also think a couple of good young Dutch players could be on the cards over the next couple of windows.

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The players you mention are all of the right calibre Fresh but I don't see Kroos or Reus coming in but you never know I do how ever think we will get A few Dutch players and Shaw just my gut feeling at the moment

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I'm just putting down my opinions. Certain members are always having a little dig at my posts so I wanted to clear up my thoughts.

I don't think there are too many Dutch players that would be good for us, Strootman and Blind are the main two. Possibly de Vrij and maybe Clasie too.

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I feel like I'm reading the same thing over and over with Fresh tbh.

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Clasie could be a good player haven't read of any interest in him tho

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And the problem is GAGUS?

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Well one day you think we'll sign x, y and z. Next day it's c, j and r.

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I think our squad has far bigger problems than GAGUS.

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The problem is Fresh you basically rehash what ever rubbish the papers print and say it's your opinion, you can't base what's going to happen on your opinion.

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Have a really hard time seeing Reus or Kroos but would love them both to be at United next season.

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Danny
Quality

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Well I think that fresh is entitled to his own opinion and if people don't like it then that's up to them. But there is no need to hastle him about it. We all read papers and rumour sites and what not and make our own mind up.

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11 May 2014 15:56:34
Looks like we are playing the 2-3-2-3, just badly. I think that if you swapped Kagawa for Rooney or Kroos though we would be better, they are better physically and more suited to that role. I don't think Kagawa looks good at all. I think some of the players don't want 6, this may be a problem. Vidic, Ferdinand and Evra are all painfully slow and Fletcher is no where near good enough. I think that this formation could work, but not with some of these players.

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Not sure what game you were watching - but we were clearly set up to play 4-2-3-1.

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Ultimately they are much the same. But the fact is that Kagawa and Mata were playing ahead of Fletcher who was sitting deep.

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By your logic I could say that playing a 4-4-2 and 10 are much the same.

Our fullbacks were not playing in advanced positions (Certainly not to the extent that they were in line with our holding midfielders) and Kagawa's base position was in line with Fletcher (as was Carrick when he replaced him).

I'm not sure why everyone on here suddenly seems fixated with us playing a 2-3-2-3 formation; but we've not played it this season and I very much doubt we will be paying it next season. LVG is a self-professed fan of 4-3-3 and as much as people might want to try and dress it up as some other formation - I fully expect that 4-3-3 is how we will play if/when LVG is appointed.

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Redseven, with the way LvG sets up his teams and the way he wants his full backs to get forward, the 4-3-3 essentially becomes a 2-3-2-3, with the wingers advanced level with the centre forward, and one centre mids much deeper than the other two, and the full backs pushing on level with the defensive midfielder. Ultimately, any formation only lines up defensively like it does on paper, and offensively, players roam all over the place and formation becomes much less fixed.

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Gilly. I've been watching LVG teams play football since his first stint at Barcelona - and whilst his fullbacks often get forwards - they do so no more than most teams. He also tends to play two anchors and one creative midfielder in his three so I'm a little confused as to how you get to 2-3-2-3.

If you want to call it something else; that's fine by me - but he plays 4-3-3 and the most logical alternative in terms of whatever you want to call it would be 4-2-1-3 or 4-2-3-1 (depending on where you want to put the wingers).

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Formations are odd things, the same formation can be used in several different ways depending on the tactics.

LvG likes to set his team up in a 433 and then he makes alterations depending on how he wants the team to operate during that specific game.

His 433 tends to have one anchoring player, then a creative box to box type player and a more traditional number 10. He then has one main striker and he likes wingers who can also operate as wide forwards or inside forwards.

Now in some games he'll get the box to box player to sit alittle more often and he'll set his wingers to hold back and protect the full backs more. so then his 433 will look more like a 4231.

In others he'll get the box to box player to push forward more along with the wide players. Then it'll look more like a 2323.

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11 May 2014 15:53:57
If anyone is asking for Giggs to be the new manager, please take a look at this game.

Absolute worst set of tactics I have ever seen. In all the games I have watched, I have yet to see a more personic formation.

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of Mata and Kagawa as part of a midfield 3, but Fletcher is not the third. Understandable in this case, we don't have aa better defensive midfielder

But what is not understandable is putting 5 attackers on the field, and playing a deep defense. If the defense is deep, the midfield, by default, will have to set up deep, thus conceding possession, and playing attackers as defenders.

I know that footballers, for all intents and purposes, are not what you would describe as a bright bunch but I've always thought Giggs was rather intelligent. 5 attackers, and a deep defense, take a bow son!

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We will get murdered with kagawa and mata in midfield

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We didn't want Moyes. now we don't Giggs. what did you honestly expect from an interim manager? (his first managerial post at that). We have nothing to play for. what's wrong with a United legend wanting to give some of the finest players we've ever had a final run? Think towards next season and not back to the this one.

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Well said Andy.
Rio/Vidic/evra/giggs last game with the club, thanks for the great memories and many trophy's you won for the club.

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Andy, just like many others, I believe Ryan Giggs is a magnificent player, and I one of my favorite sports personalities. He's just not a good manager imo. Today's tactics were wrong. You don't play attacking players in a deep formation, because they have to play defensive roles, which makes no sense.

Jred, we will in all likelihood. But seeing Barcelona midfield 3, Iniesta and Xavi are not particularly capable in defense, but a high defensive line with technical defenders and the monopolization of possession makes it possible to use players such as Mata and Kagawa in midfield if partnered with a good defensive midfielder ( Carvalho )

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Iniesta and xavi are much better than kags and mata . they also have 9 other players who can keep the ball and messi who can turn possession in to goals.
Add pace through out the team and it just about works . Unless you take messi out.

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Busquets imo is also technically miles ahead of carvalho.

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11 May 2014 15:52:43
It's difficult to say as there have been so many this season; but that just might be the worst 45 minutes I've ever seen us play.

RVP, Welbeck, Mata and Kagawa have barely had a touch of the ball. Shaw has had Januzaj in his pocket all game. Fletcher is not good enough, Vidic looks like he wants to get sent off, Evra has offered nothing and Rio was at fault for the goal and looks scared on the ball.

The only players who I can't really fault from that first 45 minutes are DDG and Smalling.

I suppose the plus point (if there is one) is that Shaw has looked immense so far. Not sure why he would want to move to OT based on today's performance though!

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Totally agree. The players we need on the ball like RVP and Mata haven't really had it. Fletcher has done his job which is to win the ball and distribute well so we can keep it. Evra is out of position surprisingly, Vidic looks like his head has gone and Rio is painful to watch - he looks as though he is running backwards.

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11 May 2014 15:30:58
Bit off topic should united have kept john o shea or was his selling justified

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I don't think he is a great loss to be honest.

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Justified I think, his versatility was the only thing going for him really

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Yea if we had him now though we would be saying keep him as

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11 May 2014 14:44:47
Well, no Giggs in the squad today, looks as though he has played his last ever game for us. Ferdinand, Vidic and Evra start which will surely be their last games. Interesting to see Kagawa in central midfield again, I wonder if van Gaal sees something in Kagawa like Ryan is to play in the middle. Could be interesting. I hope we win and give a good send off to those departing.

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Can anybody post the team as I can't watch the match

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BBC Sport website?

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11 May 2014 14:43:19
Liking the idea of having kagawa CM.

JK92

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11 May 2014 11:59:21
Remy Cabella has stated that he has played his last game for Montpellier.
Does ed have any inside info on where he might be going as he's been linked to us in the last season.
Could be exactly what we need.

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Don't think he is anywhere near good enough, I suspect he will be going to the toon.

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Easy there Fresh. Cabella is a very good player, a solid talent. Maybe not in the Hazard class but he has Cabaye-like potential. Too good for Newcastle, not good enough for us.

Suspect he'll end up at Milan/ Fiorentina/ Roma, maybe even Everton or Atletico if they lose Koke.

A team mate of Cabella that has been more impressive is 19 year old Morgan Sanson. Central midfielder, great talent.

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Technically I was right, he isn't good enough for us and wouldn't improve us at all in my opinion.

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Good one Supasub.

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11 May 2014 06:02:46
Everyone is getting a bit too excited imo. (Especially Fresh!)

Surely Reus will not be allowed to leave this year? Not in the same year where Lewandowski and probably Hummels (to barcelona) are leaving. Next year might be a bit more realistic. It simply isn't as simple as throw money at them and they will sell as some seem to think. Di Maria could be an interesting option though.

Kroos will again prove to be difficult since Bayern want a new deal (probably what he wants too). If they finally pay him what he wants, he will no doubt stay. If they don't, other clubs would surely be interested and willing to pay? Without Champions League football, again this one looks difficult. Would Barcelona with all the politics let Fabregas go and will he join us? Again seems wishful thinking to me.

Shaw seems the most likely one to me. Chelsea seem to be looking elsewhere now. But again, agreeing a price with Southampton will prove to be difficult but I think he will be the Fellaini of this window for us and we will finally end up paying the asking price.

Mangala and Ginter seem to be moving to City and Dortmund from what the media is suggesting. With LVG's bad history with South Americans, Garay doesn't seem likely as well. There is no clarity on what center backs are going to be targeted.

I hope we don't give new deals to Evra or Ferdinand. They have been great servants to the club but time has come for both the club and them to move on. Nani, Young and Anderson leaving would put a little smile on my face. It has been painful watching them in a United shirt for the last 3 years.

I can only hope that we move quickly in the market and have 3-4 signed before the WC, have a clear strategy and have no repeat of last summer. We seem to have wasted the best part of month in terms of transfer preparation with the Moyes sacking.

Perhaps it is just me with all our epic failures of the last few summer windows being pessimistic and these situations might change once a new manager is announced this week.

Certainly is shaping to be the most interesting summer window in the club's history as we draw curtains on this disastrous season. Hope Wilson scores again today.

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Van Gaal will demand certain players and we need four or five. I fully expect us to get those players. A left back, centre back, winger and two central midfielders I think are needed.

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Hey guys not posted in ages but been checking the posts recently and looking forward to next season already.

Totally agree with RF, not sure what is making some people get so carried away. I'm delighted we are in for some of these players but let's be realistic we ain't getting them all, especially having finished with no CL footy next yr.

Imo we need a lb, 2 cm, CB and lw. So long as we sort out say 4 of those positions this summer and supplement the squad with youth we should be good to go.

If we sign reus or kroos etc. I will be delighted but I can't see us pulling off a long list of players all of that calibre. Hopefully me and RF are talking nonsense but i'm not getting my hopes up as high as some on here.

Bring on lvg with woody's checkbook let's see what he can do!

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This summer will be different to previous summers RF. MU know they have to bring in the sufficient quality and the owners are willing to sanction it. MU are talking to clubs about their players. That is important here. There will not be any significant movement until LvG is named manager. LvG if announced will be announce Wednesday/Thursday time this week and I think we will see us start making moves for players the week after. I think at least two will be agreed before the WC. That's just my opinion though.

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REDFAITH

In terms of Reus, I would not discount him because it may be that Dortmund want one of our players and that could give us the leverage it needs?

Fabregas would be interesting, I read that his own fans have been booing him so I don't think Barcelona would be castigated by their fans for selling him. Also they will want to strengthen in other areas so our money may be handy. Whether we could get him would be another matter. Arsenal would have a pull although they have more than enough midfield players of his ilk and may want to spend elsewhere.

I would not assume who City will be buying because as I understood it they missed Fridays deadline to accept the settlement on FFP from UEFA so see what happens. Will UEFA show their teeth or let them off? 8 out the 9 clubs accepted the settlement but City did not.

I know you say we seem to have wasted the best part of a month, but I would suspect we may have been working on targets and if we have a high profile manager coming in then it may be easier to attract better players. I think the club will have learned from last seasons fiasco and it wouldn't surprise me if along with the new manager there will be several new faces and perhaps the big sponsorship announcement.

I am far far more positive this May than last May.

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Sydney

I'm thankful you stated at the end of your post that it was only your opinion as I was starting to think you was maybe someone important to the club phew.

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Nelly, just using common sense. LvG is busy up until Wednesday with Holland and MU will not want to start agreeing deals for players until the manager's in place. Common sense.

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Completely agree with RF. People are getting to carried away and are confusing what they want to happen with what will happen. People saying they are certain, or fully expect certain players to sign for the club. I honestly cannot fathom where they get such confidence from - Fresh and Syd are you guys actually agents or club reps in disguise? ;)

Thing is, and a lot of people are missing this, is we are buying from the weakest position in our history of the PL. The market is horrifically inflated, we don't have Europe, we have no Sir Alex, our stability, consistency and success is finally doubtable. If you're a top player then there are many better options out there then our club at the moment and those clubs are also in the market right now. It's not going to be as easy or as good as everyone hopes it will be. I'm not being pessimistic, I'm just trying to match my expectations to the reality of our situation, rather then the reality we hope for.

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Raiden, I haven't said I am certain we will sign any player. It's all in your head.

We know where the interest is so that is always a good place to start.

If I am confusing what I want to happen with what I think will happen, then we will sign Ronaldo, Vidal, Kroos, Shaw & Martinez.

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Syd
Who do you think we will sign

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If you read around, listen to some of the 'experts' and use common sense you draw a lot of conclusions that Sydney and myself draw. His logic about when LvG will be appointed makes complete sense. Certain things are obvious:

1) Van Gaal will play a type of 4-3-3.

2) We need a left back, centre back, two central midfielders and a winger (at least) and all need to be world class additions.

These are the two that we can be certain of. Players and rumours such as Kroos, Reus and Shaw fit in with what van Gaal looks for in a player, what we need and seemingly who the club want to buy. Many people agree with this and I think a lot of the deals will happen.

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I think we are in a good position to buy Shaw and Carvalho depending on what the new manager wants to do. We know there have been talks with BM regarding Kroos. Other than that I don't know.

I would like us to go for Shaw, Carvalho, Kroos, Reus & Hummels, but I am not sure we will. Would be a tidy summer though.

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2) We need a left back, centre back, two central midfielders and a winger (at least) and all need to be world class additions.
Fresh.

Its going to be some summer then

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10 May 2014 23:45:36
Congratulations to Ed007 on his Eurovision victory. Buzzing for you mate.

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{Ed007's Note - I've not seen any of it but I know it can't be good!}

Each to their own Bond! We're not here to judge.

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{Ed007's Note - Only God can judge me now.}

I thought you looked surprisingly hot in that dress Bond ;)

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