Manchester United Banter Archive August 12 2013

 

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12 Aug 2013 22:44:17
I nicked this from another forum, it made me chuckle ;)

"Since Liverpool last won the league, David de Gea has been born, grown up, signed for Manchester United and won the league himself"

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Brilliant!. Stealing this 1!

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Ha quality

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12 Aug 2013 22:05:12
Manchester airport twitter page which is verified said they haven't seen ronaldo so that's another rumour over

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They tweeted that at 1.30pm today he could have arrived after that

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I'm not saying the rumour is true but a tweet denying he is there is no more valid than one saying he is.

TK-Red

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Tk,

You should know by now that all negative rumours are true and all positive ones are fake.

Makes me laugh when people end a rumour with 'that's that then. ' Lol.

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I know GDS (what's with the added 2 btw?) I should really know better. I haven't been posting as much of late so I think I'm a bit rusty.

TK-Red

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Since Spurs last won the league, Ryan Giggs has been born, played for United and won the league 12 times.

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There was a mix up with someone posting under my name on another site TK and it got banned. So had to re register as GDS2, I tried to explain the other day but think it didn't get posted.

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12 Aug 2013 21:58:22
An amusing Tweet from Darren Fletcher


Fletcher: "My kids are upset that my FIFA rating dropped-they said "Why are you only 79 dad" I used to be 83 so I need to get playing” #MUFC

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12 Aug 2013 21:01:45
No Ronaldo is not with the portugal squad, he has an eye injury. Please let it be true!,

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According to the Portugal site Ronaldo isn't due to be at training with the national team until tomorrow

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12 Aug 2013 21:30:16
Sorry for the copy and paste but just read this on sly sports. "Wayne looked good, " Hodgson told Sly Sports News. "There is no doubt in my mind that he is not suffering any injury. It will be good to look at the data once the session has finished and speak to him about how he feels. Surely this tells us Rooney is defo on his way out? Think this is a bad bad move

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12 Aug 2013 22:03:36
Or maybe he has fully recovered. Geez.

Whistler.

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12 Aug 2013 20:24:22
Did anyone see on MUTV where Paddy Crerand mentioned an ex player said Ronaldo flew into Manchester today in a private jet?

This was also backed up by someone who works on MUTV production at times also from his "trusted source"

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12 Aug 2013 22:05:48
Didn't happen. A caller on Paddy's show said that Ronaldo had flown into Manchester on a private jet. Paddy said he'd heard the rumour that had been bouncing around twitter all day but he didn't know anything.

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Just to jump on the ronaldo bandwagon a quick visit to his official website which is "under construction" right now shows him wearing the Portugal jersey sponsored by Nike. No real madrid adidas jersey. could it be possible that he is coming home?!

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Well yes he is going home, to Portugal to play in a friendly!

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12 Aug 2013 20:23:23
Is ronaldo not in Portugal with Portuguese squad for Wednesdays game against holland?

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Not until tomorrow

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12 Aug 2013 20:00:52
I know everyone is slating the guy that said Ronaldo is in Manchester but Paddy Crerand just said on MUTV that he flew into Manchester earlier today. Seriously.

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Paddy Crerand did not say " Ronaldo is in Manchester ", he actually said he'd heard a rumour that Ronaldo was in Manchester, quite a big difference between the two statements.
Raffa

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12 Aug 2013 19:56:53
Paddy crerand just been on mutv saying ronaldo has just touched down in Manchester on a private jet

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12 Aug 2013 19:55:26
Paddy Crerrand has said that Ronaldo landed with a Private Jet in Manchester.

A mate of mine seen him checking in at a travelodge.

The second part isn't true but the first is, unless Pats been hitting the booze.

Coups.

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12 Aug 2013 19:53:52
Paddy Crerand said on MUTV he heard Ronaldo is in Manchester? Hope its true!
Pip

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12 Aug 2013 19:43:34
Saw a post before about Ronaldo flying into Manchester, so I contacted a source and believe it or not Ronaldo is in Manchester. I don't know if he was meeting an Manchester official or a Nike official.

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12 Aug 2013 19:08:21
Absolutely loving the Ronaldo at Manchester airport stories:) this is what this site needs atm a proper good old rumour keep it coming:)

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Not a rumour paddy crerand said it on mutv!

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Would imagine they are false, think he would be in Portugal on international duty.

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It's just a rumour that his son has heard like the rest of us. Paddy is never afraid to stick his neck out.

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Paddy also said there was no way SAF was retiring, the day before he did retire!id love to see Ronaldo coming back but I'd say its just rumour!

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12 Aug 2013 18:38:17
Just a quick question to the people saying that Antonio Valencia gave up his number at the end of the season.

Why did he wear no.7 against Sevilla at Rio's testimonial, where all other players wore their correct numbers?

Not saying that it definitely means that someone is coming in to fill it, just strange that after wearing it against Sevilla, United would then announce the change?

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12 Aug 2013 17:18:21
maybe its just my imagination, but do I see a pattern developing under david moyes,
no-ronaldo
no-bale
no-thiago
no-modric
no-fabregas
no-fellaini
no-baines
no-gustavo
no rooney?
its as well you have such good players, as anderson and tom-clev, old-man giggs etc, etc, in the team, maybe you don't need any signing lol.

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This is the same team that finished first. Imagine Liverpool with Suarez lol

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At least we still have the world class talents of RVP, De Gea, Carrick, Kagawa and Vidic.

In the meantime though it seems your 'greatest player since Rush' wants nothing more to do with you.

Your only world class talent wants to leave and its for Arsenal of all places?! oh dear oh dear.

Its okay though, you have Borini.

Enjoy your week above us in the table, its the only time you'll ever see Liverpool before Manchester United.

The Moon.

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Oh dear lfc getting brave again before a ball is kicked.nothing new there then! By the way if you're interested lfc I have managed to get hold of tickets for your end of season party in October.

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.because Jordan Henderson is SO much better. and a steal at 20mil ;)

Giggs11

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No Suarez equals mid-table obscurity.

You can only dream of attracting top players to your spent force of a club.

Remind us who you have signed this season?

Didn't you sign one of the Toure brothers? The one with the weight problem?

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Its because we don't go after the mignolets of this world.

singh

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Liverpool - none of the above players either or anyone near this class. At least we are linked to these players.

no- premier league ever!
no- hope

Cleverley may not be great but he's better than Henderson.

Second best team in Merseyside
How does that feel?

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One(CF) out of nine(9) is not bad, where did you read about the other eight(8), the sun, star, mirror ( newspapers )

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Ah Lfc,

The scouse boom/bust cycle is in full swing I see. For those who don't know it.
Between June and August, scousers bullishness is at it peak. They have the best players in every position. Despite the fact no football has been played.
August to November is where they still give the bravado but it quickly dawns on them that their team is not as good as they thought.
December is bust month. The dying embers of Liverpools title challenge fade away.
January to May. Next year will definitely be their year.

Thanks to Liverpool for making up the numbers for the last 20 years. Speaking of 20.

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12 Aug 2013 20:33:13
RVP is your only world class talent, Vidic was once, Kagawa and De Gea may get to that level and you must as your name suggests be on another planet if you believe Carrick is world class. Never has been, never will be.

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Stuart downing £20 million. oh, how we laughed.

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'World class' is a purely subjective term but it's a fact that Carrick was voted best CM in the EPL last season, that will do for me!

Thanks for your concern on the quality of our players, Crazy 88 ;)

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It seems that your latest chosen one lfc is so desperate to leave he would even choose Arsenal over the apparent greatest club in british history! ha joker is the intertoto cup still going? you may be able to qualify for europe after all this season ;p

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Heard some quote the other day from Brenda rogders that there was no chance he was going to sell suarez to one of there title rivals he then said that rules out, Swansea, Norwich, Fulham, Southampton, and possibly Cardiff city. DAVE THE MANC.

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12 Aug 2013 22:02:16
I have absolutely no concerns about your players, that some of you over rate them is your shortcoming not mine ;-)

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Whats the one ship that never docked in Liverpool?.

The Premiership, gets me everytime
ALDUtd

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12 Aug 2013 18:49:22
For some reason, mainly because of Moyes I have thought that the signing of Fellaini was guaranteed and I for one would be happy as long as we also got a more creative midfielder as well. But I believe Fellaini has a buy-out clause for about £23 million that ends on Wednesday 14th August. Why then would Moyes leave it so late, if he was actually interested in the player. Surely it will be a lot more difficult to get the player once this buy-out clause ends. Now at least we now the figure, we pay the figure, we get the player. I'm starting to think Moyes is not considering him, then who?

Also I would like to add, well done United yesterday, I know it was not amazing football but for me it was just important we won and it was a good start for Moyes. If we play a bit boring for the next 5 games but get 12 to 15 points, I would be over the moon.

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Fatty,

I must be in the minority, because I thought we played some top quality football yesterday. Some of the one touch stuff was nice to watch.

On a side note here: did anyone watch Arsenal beat City? I never saw the game, but a gooner mate of mine did, and reckoned City looked as predictable as the did last season.

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12 Aug 2013 18:25:42
ok iv read from a few places now that ronaldo has been spotted at manchester airport. is this looking likely or is it a rumour that's got out of hand? please come home ronnie

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12 Aug 2013 18:23:04
was just thinking if we where to lose rooney to chelsea why not ask for someone a little more likely in return. 2 players I would love to see in red would be Lukaku and De Brynne, one of them coupled with 15-20mil would be a dream

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12 Aug 2013 18:15:24
could hernandez not be given the No.9 shirt?

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He's been 14 his whole career I think.

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Er well I suppose that's fair enough then

19JackC94

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Think he actually wants to be no.14

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Spots 14 for Mexico too

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Looks 14 as well

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12 Aug 2013 18:11:59
I think Valencia gave up the cause long ago. Not united quality.
Belfz"""
dear mr belfz
this post really pissed ngiak big time
neither are you united quality as a fan
valencia is a very good player who had a bad injury and is coming back after a second injury
he certainly has proven his quality
just needs his consistency and confidence back
gan

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That's his opinion ngiak. He's entitled to it, just like you voice your opinion. I'm actually of the same opinion, I don't rate Valencia as highly as others do or any of our wingers for that matter.

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Totally Agree Gan

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Regarding his ability when on song and flying he is a far more consistant threat than any of our other wingers and that has been highlighted when he had all his assists before his leg break. He will get back to it and become a very important player for us.

Plus he gives his all going forward and defending.

Plus add to that the guy knows his worth, will never complain, will serve this club without question, has devoted his future to us, has sacked his agent as he trusts what we stand for and trusts our club to the core.

That sh*t you cannot buy these days and I for one hope he plays with us even in a squad back up position until he knows himself he is not up to it any more.

Many, many current players the world over should take note.

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Valencia is someone who sacked his agent because he didn't want to leave United and felt he didn't need one. Not United quality is an insult of a player who was player of the season a year ago and has left the world's top left backs lying on their backsides when he wasn't recovering from injury.

Manchester United have shown class in being patient with him, and he isn't throwing his toys out of the pram like certain other players at not being played.

REDFAITH

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Dear gan,

Fabs believes a nigak empathises with Valencia as winger without a trick is like a bird without wings. Maybe nigak is an emu not a penguin?

Fabs

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Well 2 seasons ago he was well upto United quality and a damned good player, I for one say he should be given the time to return to his former splendour

We have enough sh1t in the squad without getting rid of someone who has at least done it on the pitch

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Can't fault his attitude but I wish he'd realise his left foot isn't just for standing on.

his one footedness really limits his playing ability

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Just an add on to my post - Valencia should be played on the left wing for a while with instructions to get to the byline, get a cross in and under no circumstances cut inside and use his right foot.

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12 Aug 2013 17:52:00
Just a little bit of fuel for thought.

On this date in 2003, Manchester United signed a young Portugese winger for £12.24 Million.

ALDUtd

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12 Aug 2013 17:15:38
Just looking for some opinions from people.
Who do you think would be best suited and we could most likely buy in this window Fellaini, Khedira, Kondogbia.
I really like Kondogbia but I think they would all play well for us and fit into the team with ease.

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Id most want kondogbia but think fellani is most likely

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Khedira

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My first choice would be Luis Gustavo

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I have only seen him play once and thought he was ok but it appears others rate him highly. He has got to be worth a punt as he is available for about 8mill due to clauses

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12 Aug 2013 17:09:35
"I know Wazza, I speak to Wazza intimately, " Yorke said. "I spent some time around him and the guy just wants to play football. He doesn't feel he's getting the playing time at United that he deserves and if that has happened, someone of his calibre, someone of his quality, you're coming into your best form, the best time of your playing career [at the age of 27].

"What I am trying to say is that Wayne Rooney should not be for sale at any cost right now. Without Wayne Rooney being at that football club, United will find it very difficult, not only in the Premier League but in Europe. That is the kind of value that you put on Wayne now. I have a little bit of insight without going into too much detail but the boy just wants to be let feel he can play football. " yorke
I wee insight syd from someone who might be a bit itk
Jred

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What would you expect him to say? Wayne will stay when he gets the cash he wants?

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I think it was Yorke who also said he's not motivated by money which I do believe. We know he needs a constant run of games to get his full fitness up but with RvP keeping him out on a few occasions it kind of messed up his season. Ironic how the very reason he wanted RvP signed might end up being the reason for him leaving!

Ozwald

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Syd

While admitting that Wayne Rooney might not be the brightest of souls around, I have no doubt he understands at his age and based on last season, no one will pay him more than what he is on. I am pretty sure this time it is about playing time and not a fat contract. Again this is my opinion. You really think Chelsea are going to pay him more than what he is on right now? Its a no brainer and Rooney would know that. He wants to play, that is clear.

Deeps.

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12 Aug 2013 18:08:46
Well lack of playing time was his fault through sa combination of poor fitness and half arsed performances riddled with mistakes and poor touches and lack of effort tracking back. How will this season be any different. MrE

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Oz, I love you man, but to say Rooney isn't motivated by money is comical.

Next you will be saying Paul Stretford isn't motivated by money.

Can I just remind you about 2010. It's not like Rooney hasn't done it before.

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Mr e has it spot on. if Rooney thinks he's entitled to play even when he's unfit and out of form then he needs to have a rethink.

does he think mourinho will put up with this sort of crap and play him no matter what?

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Syd

2010 was clearly about money.

2013 seems different and more to do with 1) playing time 2) broken down relationship(s) 3) not being the main man any more.

That's just my opinion and that's not to say Rooney is not looking for more money but I honestly don't feel that his his primary motivation this time round. Clearly money IS Stretford's motivation though, which in the end will influence Rooney's decision to some degree.

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MrE

The same way you think a lot of our squad that was dross last year will pull their A game up. The Valencia's and Cleverly's of the world. Even out of form he contributed much more than others combined. Infact in his "worst" year with United he still was the 5th/6th best player. Says a lot doesn't it?

Deeps.

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This time is seems to be different from 2010. As it seems he is concerned about his playing time but more than that he wants to be the star man who plays up front every game and for the team to play around him like we currently do with rvp. The only problem is history shows that every time rooney is the center of the team we don't win anything but when he plays a supporting role to another attacker like rvp/berbatov/ronaldo and tevez thenwe do win things. As evidenced when rooney scored all them goals yet we never won the league but berbatov came in and that season we won and same with the rvp.

Special K

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12 Aug 2013 16:54:10
Manchester is going mental with the rumour that Ronaldo is at Manchester Airport as we speak. There are hundreds of reasons he may be here, to see friends or business etc but very weird timing especially with the no 7 shirt conspiracy theories growing. I will probably get more excited when I hear that the Brand has been spotted in Hull, Wigan or Sunderland where he should be.

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Don't do this to us Kloot. Please.

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Ha you crack me up man! but I concur Cleverley is sh&t :)

dean1210

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Quality as always from KLOOT.

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12 Aug 2013 18:31:52
I don't get this beef with Cleverley. A product of our youth, a tidy player, doesn't cause problems and is still learning.
He has his own brand, so what. Do you work 24/7 or do you do other things? Leave the bloody guy alone.

Whistler.

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If he were at Manchester Airport, surley someone would have taken a picture?

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Is this the pin being pulled on that grenade? haha

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Ok, who has hacked KLOOTS account? This isn't the KLOOT we all know. These Ronaldo wind ups aren't his style :-)

He's far too depressed to come out with these gems.

Brendan81

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Kloot

Grenade?

Rk16

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I just don't really get Cleverley, I just don't think he's that great at anything, he doesn't seem to have any strengths. He isn't a great passer or tackler, I fail to see anything that good in him.
Average at best.

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There is a picture going around but I don't buy it. Seems convenient since we signed him on this day 10 years ago.

shot stopper

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That pic is an old 1 from the Telegraph, google 'Ronaldo Airport' and check images, it's all BS for me, that started in the Afternoon.

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12 Aug 2013 16:13:42
GARETH BALE linked to united again.

Please please please. ed or any 1 please tell me how on earth is this possible?
I m ready to read any theories behind this.

Can the rumours get any unrealistic?

Rodio17

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This transfer window has gotten ridiculous.

I wish Moyes, and the club in general, would stop filling the supporters with hope. His latest comment about being "close" to signings', smells a bit desperate to me. He is trying to appease the fans desire to strengthen; but at the same time, if the club fail to sign a player of substance, he will end up with pissed off fans' and egg on his face.

Come on United, sign someone FFS!

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A load of old tosh IMO. Do people honestly believe that the club is going to fork out 80 million pound on a player? Maybe, if Rooney was chucked into the deal, something might happen; but that would require Spurs wanting him, and the player wanting to go to Spurs. And considering Spurs just forked out 26 million quid on a striker, I am not sure Rooney would be that attractive to them.

Again, there are viable alternatives; but the club seems to have over-looked them.

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Maybe United make enquiries for Bale, force Real in to overpaying for him, then they have to sell someone to United to fund it.

Nathaniel

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12 Aug 2013 15:48:56
what a surprise rooney trained normally today with england, hodgson said he looks fit to play and isn't showing any signs of his injury :)
johndenton

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12 Aug 2013 15:47:27
Isn't Luis Gustavo a player worth having? Can't believe Arsenal don't have competition from us for him. At around 17 million he is definitely worth bidding for.

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You are right oswaldo. Not sure why we are not trying for him. Loads of experience, very good player.
Nomidfield

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I am of the same opinion. The guy is a class act, and would jump at the chance of joining us, I would expect.

He ticks so many box's and he is cheap compared to other players of a similar caliber.

No brainier for me. Alas It seems that the powers at OT, don't have the same view.

Having a player of his ilk available for the Swansea game, would be a massive boost. Last seasons game showed just how physical they are in the CM midfield area. I recall they pressed Carrick really hard, and made it difficult for him to have an impact on the game.

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I also agree with this, would much prefer him to fellani

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12 Aug 2013 15:44:49
Evening all. I was just wondering who you think we would have signed if Fergie was still manager? i'm suprised with the amount of time and effort gone into scouting a player that Moyes wouldn't have went for Strootman or Thiago. Interesting to hear peoples thoughts.

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I think SAF would have signed Modric by now. He has already had an interest in the player, if his past comments are anything to go by.

He is another midfielder who we could sign without to much fuss.

I have no idea what the club are doing. Moyes stated yesterday that the club have been in negotiations all summer for players'. If that is the case, it would seem that those doing the negotiating are not doing a very good job. Take the situation with Garay. If sources are to be believed, we agreed a price for the player a while back; but the method of payment has been the hold up. So for the last two months or so, we have been haggling over how to pay for the player. It would seem though, that Benfica are tiring of the negotiations, and might be willing to let other interested parties enter the frame, who might be more forthcoming with the wonga.

A right pigs ear of a situation IMO.

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Strootman, Gaitan, Baines, Garay maybe Thiago and Di Maria.

Those were the targets anyway, don't know if they would have signed.

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The thing I don't understand is. The two bids that were made public were the Fabregas bids and the Baines one. United don't normally let the cat out of the bag when conducting deals. I honestly don't think we're in for anyone else at this current time. Maybe that will change in the coming weeks.

I'd snap your hand off for Modric if he's available. That would go a long way in appeasing some of the fans.

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I think Thiago would be ours if SAF stayed on one more season, he tried to sign him a few seasons ago when he wasn't looking to leave however this summer he needed to move for more playing time and a person of SAF's legacy would have swayed him to join us as soon as we officially approached him and Barca.

Ozwald

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12 Aug 2013 15:37:09
I know Rooney had p"""ed a lot of united fans and if the tabloids are to be believed players too. But surely we can't sell him to Chelsea. They'd clean up and win everything and we'd be in a bad way as there isn't exactly a replacement lined up or jumping at the chance to join united post fergie

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RVP said in an interview on the weekend he wants Rooney to stay and so do the whole team so i'm going to choose to be positive and believe the words from the players mouths rather than the rags words.Rooney deserves our support and respect.
RedKen

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12 Aug 2013 18:16:09
Support? When he's un a red shirt, fine. Respect? Never. MrE

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12 Aug 2013 13:52:56
I think this last minute transfer dealings will destroy us, we have never done that before, I dnt want to be disrespectful or compare Moyes to SAF but Sir would have finished his business just about this time., we will end up signing just any1 or everyone like another team we know who after a heavy defeat on our hands, decided to run in panic and just signed and most of those players they signed they have already sold. Mr Moyes should stop enjoying the fulfilled dream of being United Manager and begin working. , its REAL now

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Actually we have signed player at the last minute. Another personic post from another doom merchant. pathetic!

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We have left it till the last minute before and just for arguments sake suppose we got Ronaldo at the end your story would soon change

Lets wait and see there's still time

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I'll think you'll find the manager identifies who he wants and then Mr Woodward does the rest so I'd lay any blame at his feet.
Also I think Berbatov was signed right at the death, there's one we could have done with missing out on.

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By this time last summer, Sir Alex had signed just Kagawa. In 2008 he signed Berbatov on deadline day. The summer after that it was only Valencia who was done by this time and nobody of note came in afterwards.

Just saying.

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Rooney well into the start of the season & Yorkie too.
I'm not holding my breath for Ronnie or Bale but just chill your beans kids.
When Moyes has stated they are close to making some signings he isn't going to want to make himself look a d**k
AJK

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Can we once and for all get rid of the doom merchants, you can't be Manchester United fans no-way, slating the manager, the staff, if they could do things differently/quicker they would.
Put a sock in it or go and so called support one of our rivals, that's the best you could do for Man Utd.

Byron

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12 Aug 2013 13:01:55
In my opinion a great team will be a team with so much depth that there are 2 to 3 players for each position and before I'm miss quoted I'm not saying superstars but you need your top top players for the first team, then we need the players like Anderson and cleverlys as back up whom are just not quite there but are close and then possibly have some youth players whom show potential and can be thrown a few minuets here and there.

I would then line us up in a 433 formation where then 3man mid consisted of a steely defensive mid, a play making cm and a creative am.

We need a defensive mid so let's pay the 8mil buy out in kondogbia or even pay what's needed for lars bender

I would obviously then love to have fabregas as my cm and would happily make one last bid for him around the 40 mark but if not I think I would be happy playing carrick there and giving him more freedom using either cleverly or Anderson as back up then Powell as the youth player in this scenario.

Obviously the CAM role is kagawa's with the other one of cleverly or Anderson taking the backup.

Would like to know what people think of this as I feel this could really strengthen our midfield and then we could apply the same principle to other areas

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Moyes seems to be favouring the 4-3-3 formation at present, but that could be down to not having the correct personnel to implement another formation that he wants to play. Personally I think he will keep the 4-3-3 and will rely heavily on the fullbacks as width. This will enable us to pack the midfield and attack. I think Coentrao/Baines/Evra/Buttner & Rafael/Fabio/Valencia could have their work cut out this season. Kagawa may be used as an attacking midfielder as opposed to playing in the hole. I think the main thing is having options so that Moyes can change the personnel and formations whenever he pleases, even mid-game.

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Cs was a good guide for me 4_4_1_1 moyes played it at lot at Everton as well
Jred

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I would say playing kagawa in the cam role could work the same as him playing the hole as he would have freedom to roam whilst the cm and cdm 'hold the fort' at the back.

I think evra looked good enough against Wigan for an extra season with fabio and buttner chipping in

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12 Aug 2013 13:01:17
Vidal and Cabaye anyone? Think that would be a good summer. Being very realistic as our targets this year seemed to have just not wanted to come to us. How much would these pair cost us?

I've said about Vidal since last season and another of Fabregas/Modric/Ozil would be an outstanding summer but just can't see them being signed unfortunately.

Something big is being planned though i'm hoping!

Another point, how clinical is RvP and a true professional

ALDUtd

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Why will Juve sell Vidal? We need to look at players whom their clubs would be willing to negotiate about or players who want to leave, anything else just represents a far too difficult move to pull off and pretty much a waste of time imo.

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Redfaith, money talks. Do you really think Tottenham wants to sell Bale? Same for Ronaldo when we sold him, £80M is a ludicrous amount of money but RM set their sights.

Every player has their price, its about the two clubs agreeing a fair amount and the question is how much the buying club really wants them.

I think if United put a final bid in of around £37 plus add ons for Fabregas and made it known that's final, We would land our man. Same for Modric, start at say £25 and test RM's resolve.

ALDUtd

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Without a doubt my dream CM signings but very unlikely. Money talks mate but it would be a joke if we sign them for 50-60m when they cost less than 20m combined just a couple of years ago and were just as good.

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12 Aug 2013 12:54:49
I think its unfortunate that the potential signing of Fellaini will be a Moyes signing rather than a Fergie signing. If SAF signed Fellaini I have little doubt that not one negative post would have been posted.
The fact is Fellaini would be a fantastic signing for United. People branding Fellaini as a midfield brute with no touch are slightly delusional. He has great control of the ball and would instantly improve the team not only the midfield.
My thoughts on Fellaini are clear, him doing what Yaya does for city and what Ramires can do for Chelsea at times is something United could really do with.

MUNCH

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If Fellaini has a great season, whether he is looked at as a Sir Alex signing or a Moyes signing would irrelevant imo.

I agree that he is better than Cleverley and Anderson, but imo there is better out there.

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Fellaini is a decent player and would do a good job as a defensive mid, but we would still need a creative midfielder as well
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John,

What do you see kagawa as then?

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Not a replacement for scholes gds, he is very good at pass and move but we don't have anyone that can hit a defence splitting pass on a sixpence like scholsey.kagawa to me is better further up the feild behind the main striker.i felt sorry for him last season as I don't think some of our players were on the same wavelength
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I think fellaini will do a great job for us. Let's sign him!
Nomidfield

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12 Aug 2013 12:48:45
Imagine how we would look and be with khedira, modric, Coentrao and diMaria as our new signings and Rooney gone letting Chicharito take his position or place

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Be a very good team.

Mad Hatter

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Chicharito is not a patch on Rooney, nothing more than an impact player that can come on as a sub and score you a goal.
I would rather play Welbeck from the start.

Simmo

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I think the plan is to keep Rooney. But that would make us favourites for the title and a force to be reckoned with in Europe.

It would also solve the issue of over-reliance on Carrick, the left back problem, add some steel to the midfield in Khedira and give us a pacy left sided player, who is comfortable on both wings or as an attacker in a 4-3-3.

Don't think Moyes will go for Di Maria though. He likes players who are tougher than him.

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Simmo,

Not disagreeing with your point but it's a little irrelevant IMO. The improvement we would witness from bringing in Khedira, Modric and Di Maria as well playing Henrandez more often - would more than replace what Rooney alone offers! (in terms of goals, assists and general play)

HB

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Do you really believe that we will sign any of those players. come get in the real world. It ain't going to happen.

Simmo

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Simmo

I didn't say that but I was responding to this particular thread. The point was 'if' we got those players. I don't think we'll get them all but they are all available at a price.

Hb

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12 Aug 2013 12:27:22
This isn't a rant because i'm sick ranting and moaoning at our lack of transfer activity to be honest.
As time goes by I hear David Moyes and now united players saying the exact thing regarding bringing new players in "new signings are not critical, if we start the season with the players we aldready have then we will be happy"
I think a lot of poeple on here are going to be dissapointed me included, I really can't see any big name signings being brought in.
I really hope that David Moyes proves me wrong on this.

Simmo

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Depends what you call big name signings there will be some new players

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2bh I would see every united game and get over once /twice a season to watch them and if they didn't sign anyone I won't be going again and cancelling my sports channels. If they are going run it as a tight a** business and forget about the football club they won't be getting my money!

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Simmo, we are all in suspense like yourself, but bare in mind that a number of transfers can be concluded in a matter of hours on deadline day. RM will be getting desperate with Bale and Suarez/Aguero very soon so they will need to let their unwanted players leave sooner rather than later. Liverpool will want the Suarez situation resolved, we will want the Rooney situation resolved. Soon there will be a scurry of activity and hopefully we are in the middle of it.

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Pardoe

I don't think anybody will be brought in.

Simmo

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Simmo

I'm amazed you might be disappointed, what with you being such an optimistic chap normally :-)

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Simmo
What's happened to this squad that won the league by a canter as only lost Scholes who hardly featured and have in Zaha and Janujaz two top quality additions.
I know the answer, there are no games being played and people's minds start playing tricks, you start to doubt and listen to anti united pundits who sound convincing, what you may or may not realise is they do it all the time but the team prove them wrong most week ends during the season.
We know the area that needs strengthening and no doubt we are after Top and I mean Top players not just a signing for the sake of it.
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A true diehard supporter so 'no name'. don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out (miss you already)

IrishRed

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Simmo, we will sign players.

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Dylan

The answer to your question is that Scholes has retired, Giggs is another year closer to 40. Fergie isn't the manager anymore and we maybe loosing one of our best players in Wayne rooney.
You say Zaha and Janujaz are quality additions. sez who? They haven't proved a thing yet, they have played well in a couple of pre-season games nothing more.
The premiership is completely different to playing Cerezo Osaka and Kitchee.
Is that enough reasons?

Simmo

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Lol, good one AJH.

HB

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Simmo
Real Madrid spent millions on big name signings how do you evaluate their return on that massive outlay?
It goes to prove that we are only in need of 1/2 top quality additions.
If you can't see that both kids mentioned are ready to perform at United now then what chance youth or shall we follow City's route spend millions on youth academy and buy your big name signings destroying team spirit in the process!
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I think it is important to get fellaini or another midfielder with presence before the start of the season. We have a very tough fixture list.
That is the most important position.
I would not like to go to city, Liverpool, and Swansea or Chelsea at OT with the current midfield. We got overrun many times last year but somehow, rvp got us out of trouble. This is not going to repeat itself.
Simmo is right that zaha and januzaj looked good against the lesser opposition, but against city away, or Chelsea at home? I don't think they're ready.
So if we want to be in touch with our immediate competition, we better strengthen the midfield sooner than later.
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Dylan, I'm all for playing youth, but only when they're ready. Otherwise you can do more harm than good.
Pogba was ready, and yet Ferguson decided not to play him.
I'm not sure januzaj is physically up to the PL challenge just yet. Zaha has lots of potential, but the final ball is not great as he's still learning the game. Lingaard could be ready and he seems to have the presence and the head to be involved.
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Nomidfield
Your listening to pundits too much, Zaha was very effective not just yesterday but throughout pre season.
The ability to break from the half way line at pace will be of some benefit this season, januzaj is ready to have an impact off the bench not needing a loan spell he oozes class and will play a part this season.
Dylan

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12 Aug 2013 12:11:04
Where is everyone today doubting me that Valencia would not be waering the number 7 this season. I told you a month ago that I couldn't or no to get the shirt no and name on the back of my boys shirt.
Not saying we are signing anyone just the fact the no. 7 shirt is now available.

Any ideas who might get it or come in honestly.

Probably think Zaha might get it?

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I actually believe the line that came from Utd yesterday, that he asked for 25. He had a horrendous season wearing the number 7, players are funny that way I suspect.

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I imagine they are hoping Ronaldo no matter how unlikely

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Giving Zaha the shirt could be one of the most stupid things possible, I mean how much pressure would that drop on his shoulders in his first season? Could muck up his whole career therefore I doubt he'll get it.

Think Valencia was effected by the shirt number to be honest, he felt that he had to influence the game in a more spectacular manor which actually backfired and made him indecisive and loose confidence as opposed to the season before where he'd just run and run and run then put a decent ball in.

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Tucker, you were right!
Ozwald, you are also right. Our no7 can only go to a top player. We've had Owen and Valencia and neither are in the class of best, Beckham, cantona and ronaldo.
Nomidfield

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Correct me if i'm wrong but didn't we give it to a 18 year old Ronaldo?

Age shouldn't matter if you have got it.

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12 Aug 2013 11:53:01
Valencia gives up his famous no.7 shirt for the new season and will revert back to his original no.25, prompting speculation that the no.7 is being kept vacant for a special signing.

Looks like someone is coming in, could be anyone I guess! God I hope its CR

Elmo

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12 Aug 2013 11:20:36
Noticed yesterday that Valencia was wearing No 25 again, does anyone think this could be to help lure a top player for this shirt. It usually is a major player who wears the number 7 of Manchester United.

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12 Aug 2013 11:13:04
Are we again interested in Gareth Bale?

Mudit (India)

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12 Aug 2013 11:04:49
Coentrao, Di Maria and Modric all deemed available by Real, I believe they can make us excellent + Fellaini .

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I said this weeks ago. I also had Khedira in the mix too.

Sydney!

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Khedira could well end up at Chelsea
Jred

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12 Aug 2013 12:27:50
coentrao will be at spurs due to the modric money.

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Another thing I said month's ago.

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All hail Sydney, great oracle. Come on Syd, neck on the block, who do you think we will sign by deadline day? For what it's worth, I am going with Fabregas and Baines, plus a DM but no idea who ( don't think it will be Fellaini)

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12 Aug 2013 13:25:06
@Sydney!

I've been going on and on about gems being found in the Madrid garage sale for well over a year now. We should get at least 2 of the 4 available imo.

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REDFAITH, you have and I think you are right. Coentrao & Modric would be very good signings especially.

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Sydney, Redfaith,

I said the same thing 2 years and 2 months ago, so neh neh neh neh neh ;)

AJH, I hope you are right I would be fit to burst with thise 2 additions alone!

HB

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12 Aug 2013 11:01:40
Hi, sorry about this been away, when did Ronaldo announce he had resigned at Real. Last interview I saw was last week where he said his future was not certain and for now he remains a Real player.
Please advise cause this was after the Marca claimed he had resigned. I don't fully believe it can happen coming back, but I'm looking for any facts not rumours here guys.
Shandy!

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Marca are merely Reals mouthpiece they more or less print anything Real want imo totally untrustworthy

Ronaldo says he hasn't signed

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Shandy, had me puzzled for a minute then. big difference between resigned and re-signed! lol

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Haha same here! I was thinking since when had Ronaldo resigned?! Haha

Giggs11

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Ha ha . Just read it back . Damn - not so smart phone!
Wish he would bloody resign and come home .
He plays on the left .
Shandy!

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12 Aug 2013 10:27:37
Did anyone notice Valencia wore 25 yesterday?
Why is he no longer no 7, are they saving it for a marque signing!? (i'm not saying its Ronaldo by the way, just a big signing worthy of the no 7 shirt)

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12 Aug 2013 10:23:01
After yesterday performance I still believe we need 2 excellent midfielders and at 1 other impact player like RVP to take Rooney's place, its high time we let Rooney go guys, he doesn't want to play for us anymore, so let's just cash in on him. , I don't think we need a left back with Fabio, Buttner supporting Evra who I believe is still good

EXPECTED and GOOD INS

Garay
Fellaini
Bale
Cabaye

OUTS

Anderson
Chicharito, used in + cash deal to get Bale
Varela, loan

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Someone's been reading the papers then.

Ozwald

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I can't quite believe we aren't in for Luiz gustavo. He's an experienced, consistent player who could seriously beef up our midfield. Hopefully we will bring in a CM, I have faith in moyes :)

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You want to bring in cabaye and garay and let hernandez, and Rooney go?
Anderson, I agree on. He has never performed and it is definitely time to let him go. While you're at it, sell young and cleverly as well.
Then if we can bring in fellaini and modric and a good winger, then that will be good.
I don't think bale or cr7 are realistic as much as we want to see them here.
Nomidfield

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12 Aug 2013 10:00:48
If utd make a couple of good to great signings before the window shuts, will all of you who have been posting negative, "no hope, moyes should be sacked, our transfer policy is amateur" posts come back and say how wrong, childish and impatient you have been?

ekd

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12 Aug 2013 09:51:33
I still believe Moyes is getting closer to a signing. Maybe Fellaini which I wouldn't mind so long as there was another more creative addition also. Does anyone think Luiz Gustavo would make a big impact. Tackles well, can play with the ball at his feet, weighs in with a few goals and his range of passing is truly excellent. Do the Eds know if we have shown any interest?

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12 Aug 2013 09:32:24
KLOOT,

Weren't we all talking about Fabregas' deafening silence a week ago? You can second guess Rooney's motives all you like but the fact is we're a far superior team with him in the side. It's over-opinionated match-going reds like yourself that are intent on driving him out of the club.

If I were you I'd be careful what you wish for.

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Bottom line is Rooney is a Liverpool lad, so I bet that has never sat well with kloot. So every thing that Ferguson says is gospel while Rooney is seen to be lying all the time. Come on guys, Ferguson made a monumental cock up and now one of our best players is about to leave, how the hell do any of his haters see that as a good thing?!

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12 Aug 2013 08:52:09
Genuine question here. I know there's some people on here that think the whole Rooneygate saga is a negotiation technique used by him & his agent to get a better deal. My question is, when I take an objective look, why would he want MORE money?! What's the guy earning 200-250 a week? I mean surely that's enough? Surely he's not that greedy? & I don't see him earning more anywhere else. When you get to that level of money it's always going to be more than you can spend anyway. I don't believe he wants an improved contract, that said I'm sure he'd take it.

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I think a lot of it is to do with last year, playing time and position .
I think Chelsea will offer him the chance to play as the main striker and be the main man
Jred

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We should go in for bale. that would be a statement.

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Personally I think it's mind games from chealski and moanrinhio . Have we ever heard the Rooney wants to leave FROM Wayne himself, no . JM is trying to unsettle WR and the squad

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USW

I think it'll be something to do with the clause I have heard about where he has his wages increased to continue to be the highest paid player at OT.

If we were to be bringing Ronaldo back then surely Ronaldo would be on a higher wage than him therefore increasing his wage automatically.

We maybe trying too remove the clause in the negociation.

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Just like 2010, if MU paid him what he and his agent wants Rooney will do another U-turn. I wasn't born yesterday.

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Syd
what's your latest take on the Rooney situation you seem to change your mind on a monthly basis.
Do you still think United are looking to sell him
Jred

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My opinion has never changed. I think MU wanted to nudge him out the door to a foreign club this summer. SAF doing his best to make that happen. I think Rooney and his agent were aware of this. MU never wanted to sell him to a rival, but will do if the price is right. My personal opinion is that we shouldn't sell unless we have improved our team first. If we fail with our targets then we should keep Rooney for another season if he doesn't continue to be an arse.

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Syd
But I though you said it was about Rooney holding out for a new contract.

I still don't think United want to sell him for all the reasons I've stated over the last 12 month I also think this stance has been confirmed by moyes and United. However if the player wants to leave that may change things .
All though again that goes against your negotiating for a bigger contract theory.
Jred

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Ape, we also haven't heard from Wayne saying he wants to stay so he is obviously either for a move away or at least open to it. RvP has had two injury free decent seasons but he's always had a history of injuries so it's likely he could get one and be out for a while, especially if we rely on him too much.

We need Rooney big time unless we actually get some form of world class attacking forward in before we allow him to leave.

Ozwald

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No it doesn't go against my negotiating for a bigger contract theory. Rooney wants an improved deal or he will leave and MU want to sell him abroad, but not to a rival. Simple really.

If MU offered him an improved deal he would do another one of his U-turns. But MU will not offer him an improved contract as they would prefer to flog him abroad. If Chelsea offer the right amount he will be sold.

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Syd
You can't possible know that so why pretend you do .
Is there any chance that Rooney quite simply fancies a move to Chelsea, for me there are a lot of pros for Rooney to go there .
Why are you so sure you know what's going on at United or Rooney .

Jred

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Common sense Jred.

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The same common sense that failed you so badly on lewandowski, bale evra clevs .
Like I've said before everyone gives there opinion you give your opinion as fact .
Did your common sense not work out that we were going to buy Lewandowski and therefore Rooney would be sold?
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Poor attempt at side stepping my last post
Jred

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Jred, let's cast our minds back to 2010 when a certain Wayne Rooney wouldn't sign a contract. He said he wants to leave because MU have no ambition. Well after signing an unknown Hernandez, Smalling and Bebe he decides he will sign a new deal. What do 'YOU' think convinced him to sign a deal in October 2010? Bebe? Or the big fat pay day that he wanted? Like I said you need to use your common sense. If MU offered him what he wants to stay meaning he doesn't have to uproot and move to London, then he will take it. Just like he did last time. It's all about money and convenience Jred.

I still believe if Lew had signed then Rooney would be a Chelsea player already.

I still believe Bale is not a great left-winger. He's better central and could play on the left of a front three, but he isn't a great left-winger. Wasted in that position.

I still believe Evra would have been replaced by Baines last summer had SAF got what he wanted.

I still believe Cleverley will be a regular in the MU midfield for years to come.

Obviously opinions change over time Jred, and I am of course allowed to change my opinions after circumstances change. For example, unless I seen Bale play centrally I would never have expected him to play so well there. Things change.

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So Sydney, we keep Rooney and say to him, you will do until we get someone better to replace you, then you can get lost.
That is a fantastic way to motivate the player! NOT!
Bottom line, is Ferguson has got a long memory, he didn't like Rooney handing in a transfer request a couple of years ago, and in his last stupid speech, he thought he will get back at the player by telling lies about Rooney asking for a transfer. See it any way you want, but Ferguson cocked up big style. Leaving the player unhappy, his value is lower than it should be as Chelsea know they can get him cheaply.
It wasn't Ferguson's finest hour. Problem is that the club would not retract the statement, even though it is fabricated rubbish by Ferguson and we have an unhappy player which is not good for morale.
So before you lay all the blame at Rooney's feet, just think. All it needs is for the club to say there was a misunderstanding and he did not ask for a transfer, and I think you will see that Rooney will be happy with that.
Is it going to happen? I don't think so, better to just shoot ourselves in the foot, which is what is going to happen.
Nomidfield

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12 Aug 2013 08:51:30
Something tells me Bale will be new no.7 would rather Cristiano home but it just does not seem affordable Tottenham and Levy angry with Madrid 60 mil plus should and would be reasonable enough to do it hopefully it makes Madrid do there utmost to get him therefore making Ronaldo more obtainable but I believe that Madrid would rather go bust right now than lose him. people crying out on here for "world class" would that be Gareth.?

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I can't see us paying the upward of 80m for Bale - rumoured levy wants 100m from RM, I expect he would want more from us - maybe United reported interest in the Independent is to scare Madrid into completing the deal and we go after Ronny :)

Wishful thinking!

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So let me get this straight. 100 million or so will be rejected in favor of 60 million or so just because Real are not nice people?
Dude. Bale to united is no chance. No chance.

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Did spurs not reject an 80 mil offer from Madrid for Bale?

Giggs11

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Spurs do not have an issue with the amount of cash offered br RM, it's the structure of payment that is the issue. Also RM want to include players, but some are not interested in going to Spurs. RM could do with selling Ronaldo to fund the Bale and Suarez/Aguero transfers, but perhaps Ronaldo is only interested in a move to OT and we are not offering RM enough to bring him back. If we were to turn our attentions to Bale, then in theory it may lead RM to being more relaxed with the Ronaldo price?

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Bale is not going to happen. Move on.
Nomidfield

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12 Aug 2013 07:55:18
Although we seem to be linked with Fellaini, I don't hear much about us and Gustavo. He appears to be cheaper option too. Is Fellaini genuinely the better option for us?

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Short answer = no

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12 Aug 2013 07:13:19
Moyes WILL do a job for this club and believe me at least one MARQUEE signing IS coming along with another 2 players to strengthen the team. FACT!

anniewithoutmakeup

If as you say there is a marquee signing along with 2 others coming in, why is it you don't say anymore?.You say its a fact so if you have this privileged information please do shed some light and give us names.

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I can`t say because I DON`T KNOW! The information I`m getting ( from a reliable source within the club ) is there are 3 players coming. One will considered my most fans as MARQUEE & the other 2 are big premiership names.

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12 Aug 2013 06:53:39
bbc reporting valencia will be wearing number 25 this season vacating the famous number 7 jersey, is this a coincidence or the start of something big

stevox

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12 Aug 2013 05:51:52
Hey All,

I really don't care who plays in the starting 11 provided we get the result we want.
But I feel we are missing the football that kept us all on the edge of our seats 2 to 3 Seasons back.
With this line up, I can't see us finish in the top 3.

Mudit (India)

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12 Aug 2013 05:23:35
I think there is only way Rooney can stay now - he needs to sack his agent. However, this is as likely as Liverpool winning the league as Stretford has a real hold over him. If the club were to acknowledge he didn't ask for a transfer, and if he were to sack Stretford and pledge his future, then he has a chance to make amends. Let's be honest, someone is giving him very dodgy advice here

Still doesn't address all the other issues ( form, fitness) but other than this, I'm not sure how things will ever be resolved.

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12 Aug 2013 01:51:26
Hey guys wats up long time reader never really post . plan on doing so in future . Kloot I have give to ya your post are propper funny sarcasm is great ha dnt always agree with your views but always get giggle out your replys to some people ha . U never really voice opinion on who you would like us to sign . Personally I'd love an am tat plays wide lamela would be my choice . cm is a prority though I would have loving thiago or fabergas . always been a huge modric fan he can play most rolls as a cm so he would be a great choice . looks like might be fellini though . has he got the legs to play in cm would he offer enough energy in there as Carrick doesn press so I think his partner in cm has 2 I'm nt sure if fellini can offer this . Love hear what u guys think .

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Thought we were awesome.
De gea had very little to do because the defence had the Wigan forwards in their pocket.I thought it was brilliant how Cleverley kept our defence awake with some of those pass backs shades of Ray wilkins there.Giggs looks like he has gained a yard and could be our Gareth Bale this year.How welbeck never scored is beyond me such vision and his first touch is awesome.I think Valencia changing his number is a master stroke and could be a title winning decision.I think its a great move by Moyes and Woodward not buying anyone why should we give our opponents any money to boost their transfer funds, very wise.So book your hotels now boys for the European cup final next year I see a treble coming this year.

I washed david peggs car

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I washed david peggs car.

Brilliant.

J Bones

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