Manchester United Banter Archive January 12 2015

12 Jan 2015 20:41:18
Did anyone else on here think the irish girl should have got goal of the year.and David luiz getting on team of the year a joke.

12 Jan 2015 19:57:39
Ed 001

I read your post about lvg and his ways, with you saying u would be surprised if he stayed through the summer, could I ask who you would think would be the candidates to replace him, I understand u are a Liverpool fan (forgive me if I'm wrong) but I'd like an honest opinion thanks

{Ed001's Note - it really depends on who is available. Blanc and Ancelotti could be possibilities.}

12 Jan 2015 19:39:24
In other news david luiz has made the FIFA 11 and therefore is one of the top 2 cb's in world football. And in 3rd place johnny Evans.

12 Jan 2015 14:59:39
There's got to be a point soon where LvG's stubbornness to change the system that's clearly not working is overcome by the fact he's damaging his big ego by us having to play like Stoke, at home to rescue a point in a game we should have won. Hopefully it'll happen sooner or later. Maybe he wants to bring in a CB this window before changing to 4 at the back.

I think he will stick with it until:

A) We drop out the top 4.
B) He signs Strootman.
C) He gets the sack and never changes.

Fresh

He wil not change anything with or without Strootman. We will still play 352 and he will have strootman in the middle and you know what I think of him so bad to worse IMO.

He will also not change anything even if we drop out of the top 4 because the media will rip him to pieces and it will be an admission of failure and his philosophy. When you treat them the way he does they will have the knives out for you when given the chance.

Fergie did it for years but he kept winning and did not give them an opportunity

He is either senile or blind if he can't see what everyone else sees with 352 but he is sending them out every week the same way and just changing 1 or 2 players and searching for whatever it is he is looking for.

You might be onto something with your 3rd guess and the next 5 games, which according to some posters here are easy and wins might be quite telling.

I am personally now 80 percent convinced he is the wrong man for the job. A few more performances like yesterday with a fully fit squad and I will be joining the beast camp, just hope there is a seat open :)

Fresh
Strootman will not do anything carrick cant

12 Jan 2015 14:01:40
Beast i hope your well mate, i looking through your last few posts and i noticed something very funny. Before Christmas people were giving you some greif and every post u put up would instantly get a load of dislikes ( i don't think the majority even read your posts first) and recently every post u put up has been the complete opposite everyone likes it. I know its silly but it did make me laugh. Are these same people that were calling u a troll etc now coming around to your way of thinking? It seems it only took a few games for Van Gaal to turn from a saint into the devil.

Thanks Dellboy, it is horrible in a way because it was one thing I didn't mind being wrong on, but unfortunately rather than prove me wrong LVG keeps on doing what I suspected he would do.

Appreciate your pointing it out mate, hopefully those people that were just clicking disagree whenever they saw my name will maybe bother to read my posts a bit more now. Although I do appreciate I'm not always right, I have been about LVG so far unfortunately.

12 Jan 2015 16:08:02
I think it shows more about the modern day fan that a team can win 6 in a row and not lose for a dozen or more games, then have the audacity to lose 1 game and people want him out.

12 Jan 2015 16:19:48
dellboy,

This has changed since yesterday, when everyone overreacted to a defeat, it always happens when we lose a game, panic strikes and the world ends, things will get back to normal soon don't worry.

I still think the manager will be a success, but he has to drop the 3 at the back system now. Yesterday's result could have been so much different if he had taken the breaks off and allowed the team to attack with purpose.

12 Jan 2015 12:05:12
Hello everybody, I'm a first time poster who has enjoyed the site for some time. I'm a worried Utd fan. Let's get things straight, LVG is not doing a very good job. Recent good results have papered over a series of poor performances. This team is horrible to watch. Ponderous build up play, endless passing backwards and a chronic lack of pace. There is a deep malaise at Utd. Every team we play look fitter, quicker and stronger.
Juan Mata was sublime for Chelsea. He was invariably their best player. He is a shadow of that player. Di Maria was one of Madrid's best performers and he started off superbly for Utd. He has looked a mile away from being a £60m player since those early games. RVP was the league's best striker under Fergie, he's now a sulky lethargic shadow of that player. The lack of pace in the team is a real worry yet it was self inflicted by getting rid of Nani, Hernadez, Welbeck and Zaha. Erratic performers all of them, but pace is paramount in modern football. It can of course be compensated for by moving the ball around with speed, but there is none of that. The football is awful to watch and is every bit as frustrating as last season under Moyes. Sorry for the pessimism but that's how I feel watching this crud every week.

We have two problems, the formation and we are lacking some crucial personnel.

We need to play the 4-3-3, it is the best formation. One striker up top and two fast wingers, we only have one but if we had kept Nani and he had performed then we could of had Nani and Di Maria either side of Falcao or Van Persie. Secondly we have what looks like a make shift defense even when we have the necessary players fit. Thirdly we are lacking a box to box midfielder who is crucial to the 4-3-3 system.

12 Jan 2015 13:00:10
Nani had years and years to cement his place, he flopped. Not good enough. So forget Nani

We need a better Nani for sure. But I wouldn't of let him go out on loan when realistically, we have no one to replace him in that position that has any skill.

Good post Roger.

You are bang on about ADM as well, it isn't a coincidence for me that once LVG's methods started to have an impact after a few games his form dropped off before the injury. Our players look jaded despite playing less games than any other team, they do not move for the 2nd or 3rd ball, the movement/laziness is shocking unless the ball is close by.

12 Jan 2015 14:53:06
Fresh, Herrera is a box to box midfielder, a good one at that I don't understand why LvG doesn't rate him that highly. He can pass, score, tackle, run, create, and most of all has a great attitude.

I also think that ADM looks like he's being a bit selfish at times, going for glory or he's just trying too hard to impress.

Oz - I think Herrera occasionally gives the ball away needlessly, LVG despises this. I really rate Herrera but that seems to be the only possible reason he doesn't fancy him, his energy, guile and tackling make up for his occasional poor pass though for me - it is beyond strange that he isn't playing, same as Falcao though.

12 Jan 2015 16:13:57
I thought the reason lvg dropped Herrera was because some fans and pundits were getting on his back because in the EPL u need strength and height to defend against set plays, long balls and over physical teams hence why fellani was bought back in. However I could be wrong.

{Ed001's Note - LVG does not make changes due to what fans and pundits say CTR. He is not happy with Herrera and has chosen to look at other options in the centre of the pitch. It is not because of fans and pundits, he is more likely to dig his heels in than listen to those.}

12 Jan 2015 16:30:12
Ahhh well then I am wrong ed, but the change did seem to come about after it was highlighted by many that u need height and power.

{Ed001's Note - it may well have done, but it had more to do with a personality clash according to people close to Herrera, hence him warming the bench.}

12 Jan 2015 16:53:13
That's a shame because I really rate ander and I know u do to mate

Ed001

I remember what you said a while back when we met on this guy and you seem to be spot on and it is all happening.

You think he will survive the season if we start going the wrong way in the standings or they will make an early call and try and salvage a top 4.

{Ed001's Note - it depends on how bad it gets, if he loses the dressing room completely then he will be gone straight away. His attitude is not suited to man-management sadly. Shame because I think the Premier League is always better when teams are stronger. I still want to see Man Utd lose to Southampton, for instance, but it is so much better when it is a great United side being beaten. When you have a team with issues behind the scenes causing disjointed performances, then it is difficult to get excited when they get beat.

I would be surprised if van Gaal was still in the post next season, unless he can turn things around in a major way. If he is going to do so, he will need to change the training and fix his treatment of players. These players are not naughty children, they are grown men, they need to be treated as such.

Ferguson had his faults, but one thing he knew was how to manage his players and win their respect. The famous hair dryer was not employed regularly, it was more about respect. They respected him and wanted to win for him. LVG is starting to turn more and more players against him, it can only end one way if he doesn't stop the rot.}

When LVG was named as manager, I was slightly concerned, because I know he can be a hard guy to work with, and his track record says at much. But I also thought he was exactly what we needed: A manager who would stamp his authority and get the best out of the players. Up-until now, I was quite pleased with how things have gone given the amount of injuries etc; but after yesterday, I have to admit being completely baffled with his team selection. I also was baffled with Falcao not starting the game, let-alone now even being on the bench. I just fail to understand the managers logic with regards to yesterdays game.

Next week will tell us a lot IMO.

I suppose the lesson here is a leopard doesn't change its spots!

Sam

I agree. In a way the RVP injury will allow him to manage the Aguero situation and save face.

The team set up will be interesting s QPR is a very tough ground to get a win.

Thanks ed001. I totally agree about Fergie and remember Steve Bruce telling a story about Cantona, who showed up to a function wearing tennis shoes when the players were told to dress formal.

They thought fergie would have him, but supposedly fergie said when you can play like him you can also wear tennis shoes in good banter.

Travelling to London for some work and have tickets for QPR but believe it or not will skip it and come back early as I can not stand watching us play like this.

Is there a major fall out with Falcao and how do you see that developing.

{Ed001's Note - from what I am told LVG has already decided he is not going to be good enough and thinks it was a mistake. People are saying he just doesn't want him to succeed as it would mean putting van Persie's time at the club at an end. I am not sure how that meshes, so I am not convinced by that. I don't know how Falcao staying would mean RVP going, but that is the suggestion. I personally think that LVG has caused such bad feeling that now people are just using any excuse as a reason. RVP seems to have become the target now, as he is seen as van Gaal's blue eyed boy.

The problem I see is that such turmoil between a manager and the rest of the club is not good for promoting a good team spirit. When people feel they are treated unfairly, they very rarely go out and give their all, as they tend to feel dispirited and lose focus.

As for you missing out on QPR, I am surprised, I would have thought now would be a good time to watch closely and check out the spirit on the pitch. QPR are not a good side but they are putting in some decent performances at home. What is the betting if you do go it will be woeful, if you don't go it will be the game of the season?}

Ed001,

I am not sure what Falcao has done wrong. He might not be hitting the heights he was a few years back, but I think he still has immense talent; and given a run, would deliver.

I hope it is all speculation, and Falcao starts against QPR and bags a hat-trick. :)

{Ed001's Note - he is coming back from a long injury lay off, it will take him time to get back to his best. If he can do so.}

Ed001

LOL, you are probably right and we will score 6 for all I know.

Regarding Falcao, I am surprised as he would have surely sanctioned the deal and this is not some nobody coming in a low cost and it would be an incredible mistake in judgement by him.

I am not sure how he can make that call as the guy has hardly had a run out in a set up that is lethargic and hardly creating anything.

He should look at himself first and take responsibility. We seem to be recycling the ball whilst going no where and playing 30 yard balls over the top to try and break down defences, which is all new to me in watching united all these years. I don't think it is no coincidence and we must be practicing this in training.

12 Jan 2015 19:43:51
Gcu so are u saying u have tickets to the game u are not going? Really?

Yep. I am done with my meetings on Friday and had originally booked a Sunday flight back to stay on and go to the game with a friend of mine who is a QPR supporter and changed to fly back on Saturday.

I have never been this frustrated with a united team or it's set up and quite disheartened with what I am seeing and what a waste of utilising such talented players.

I would bet the house Fergie would have us sitting near the top or top of the league with this team and how we miss him.

We were bad in the mid 2000s when we bought Alan Smith and co but even that team was better to watch than this one.

{Ed001's Note - I agree that Fergie would be challenging with this team, but there are very few that can do the same.}

12 Jan 2015 23:54:34
GCU,

Words fail me

GDS

Its okay you are on a roll at the moment and save it for explaining what we may witness in the next few weeks.

14 Jan 2015 13:12:43
GCU,

The thing is mate, I go to the games because I love the club, not because they are the best. Obviously we want them to be, but sometimes football clubs have bad times, its these bad times that prove who the real fans are, who stick with the club through thick and thin. Not going because we aren't playing well, no wonder other fans call us glory hunters.

12 Jan 2015 11:35:25
I know this may ruffle a few feathers but Angel Di Maria £57million, Alexis Sanchez £35million. Almost twice the fee, almost half the player.

12 Jan 2015 11:51:57
Sanchez all day long, I think both are amazing players but I've always rated Sanchez very high.

Give it time, if Di Maria can stay healthy and be played where he is most effective, he will show his world class ability again soon. As far as Sanchez goes, he deserves all the praise he gets this year. Fantastic player.

I don't know what united fans expected from di maria. His goal scoring record was always low and as for providing assists united have past their expiry date forwards in RVP and rooney. The only goalscorer you have is falcoa and he isn't even making the squad.
Sanchez is top top class not the level of messing ronaldo but streets ahead of di maria

Sanchez has had a better run at it than Di Maria has to be fair. They are also slightly different with Di Maria playing much deeper than Sanchez is. I always said though that I would of loved Sanchez to have been signed, instead of Falcao actually so we could play a 4-3-3.

12 Jan 2015 12:38:51
Sanchez is fantastic but so is Di Maria. Remember Di Maria has had a few injuries that have slowed him down a bit this season, I suspect we will see the best of him soon with a run of games.

I wanted sanchez too but Di Maria will come good he has too much quality not to.

12 Jan 2015 13:25:42
Al,

Good try mate but I imagine nobody will bite at that. Not heard from you for a while, is this the first weekend of the season United lost and Liverpool won or something?

Also, never heard of falcoa, Falcao has been in every squad when he was been fit apart from yesterday so not sure he doesn't make the squad. Again, good try, you must be delighted that United lost, it's like a win for Liverpool fans.

12 Jan 2015 13:30:34
He'll not be able to show his undoubted talent, if he's played in a position where he's constantly receiving the ball with his back to goal.

Bite? Do united fans have teeth then ;)
I don't care if united win or lose. Sanchez has been the leagues best player by a mile though a terrible league he has been truly excellent.

12 Jan 2015 13:48:22
If you don't care if United win or lose why do you only post on here when we lose?

12 Jan 2015 14:09:29
Lol I have noticed that gds, bless him, I do wonder wether these are his opinions or if he asked ed01 his thought then tried to pass them off as his own.

Gds2
I posted before Christmas when united had won i believe.
Chris. Fortunately I have my own opinion though edd001 always makes great reads. The man knows a wealth about the game.

12 Jan 2015 15:05:18
Sanchez hasn't been the best player this season, he started off a bit slow and to be fair does he do it in big games, against big teams? Not really. Best player this season has been Aguero even with all his injuries.

Both good players imo .
Arsenal done a good bit of business getting him for 30 mil tho

I think Di Maria's decision making the last few games has been poor and a bit selfish and his passing has been very poor.

It is a function of playing him in the wrong position and also I at RM CR07 is the main man and everyone knew what their roles were, create for him. At our place he seems to want to be the main man but he is not a striker.

Sanchez so far a much better buy and physically looks more suited to the PL.

Aguero is the best player in the league by a country mile when not injured and top 4 or 5 in the world for me. Fantastic honest player and from what I hear very decent person and easy to manage and work with.

12 Jan 2015 09:40:47
Chris and other stalwarts banging on about our great run - you must surely recognise the performances have been awful. In this league you can pick up results by playing bad some of the time, LVG has done this during the so called "unbeaten run", you can go all season being unbeaten and just have 38 points by the way = relegation!

There have been so many games that we have drawn or won that should have gone the other way, more than any other season I remember, we simply haven't deserved half of the points we have amassed from a football point of view. DDG has saved us over 10 points, he didn't do nearly as well last season.

Are you not tired of seeing such poor displays with the wealth of talent we have available? Any other team with this talent would be a joy to watch and would be winning more. LVG isn't managing Holland anymore, his system is flawed. Granted it takes time to settle, but other coaches don't need this much time, there was no more broken with Utd than there was with Southampton.

I have said numerous times, today's coaches all studied his system so they know how to combat it - coaching 101. It is 20 years out of date and until he grasps this we will see the same turgid performances, sure we will win some, but not enough as we should and certainly not in an entertaining manner Man Utd are loved for.

His training methods are 20 years out of date, they are not suitable to the English game or the modern footballer who breaks down much quicker than a 90's footballer.

The injuries were his making in large part, even the ones where you think this is no way to do with the training, the body is weaker and more susceptible to picking up knocks or not recovering from simple injuries like they should if it is knackered from over work.

The Asteroid 65 millions years ago didn't kill all the dinosaurs it seems.

12 Jan 2015 10:58:15
I reckon I could have written this post for you mate.

I was trying to put it in a nut shell mate, it's difficult to do, the nut that keeps on growing!haha

12 Jan 2015 11:36:24
I have no problem seeing things from different angles mate I'm also not so far down a tunnel to not be able to change a perception or opinion.

U seem to be treating this like a popularity contest and believe by calling me out u can "put it in a nutshell" but I fail to see what Point u are trying to make to me apart from highlighting how immature u seem to be Atm, maybe some on here are a little worried about leaving a negative reply to a post from you in fear u might throw your toys once again out of the pram and leave us but I'm not.

If I disagree with you or anyone I will say and stand by what I say.

Am I happy no, do I see improvement yes. That is my opinion

Must admit to being intrigued by the amount of injuries we have had, beast can you enlighten me on the methods being used by lvg and his coaches so I have a better idea?

12 Jan 2015 13:31:19
Oh I am looking forward to this one.

Chris - I said at the time of my sabbatical it was more to do with me taking over posts needlessly, so the original post gets lost and getting wound up with peoples delusions so it impacted my personal life by putting me in moods. Nothing to do with not accepting criticism, more to do with frustration at talking to a lot of brick walls at the time and having nothing positive to say, which most people wanted to hear at the time.

If I put myself out there it is more than fair for people to shoot me down, however calling me immature for talking the brutal truth and you not accepting it is in fact ironic.

The point I am making is that it was a mistake to hire this lunatic and we should get rid quick before the house of cards comes falling down, isn't that obvious what I have been saying since around 6 games in?

Bookedredmole - Numerous "in the know" people have stated that his training is outdated and he has them training 2 times a day. He used to be a PE teacher and hearing him talk he is focussed mainly on fitness, I believe he is making a mistake in thinking the modern professional is as tough as a professional when he started, the game is quicker now, the players are typically not as tough and will miss games that they wouldn't have missed if they were around a generation earlier (when his methods worked).

Footballers are mollycoddled and earn money for calling in sick too easily in my view. So I agree our players should be fitter, but he has taken it too far imo, so that we actually lack the push we had in the SAF days.

Our players look shattered despite playing fewer games, having a long time between games and a young-ish squad. Injuries are mounting up because bodies are tired and it is common knowledge that you are more susceptible to illness or injury if your body is weakened by fatigue.

I don't claim to be an expert, and I am not able to enlighten you on specifics, but we live in a world where most things come out in the media. The only people that have anything positive to say about LVG are some of our fans, we are a joke to everyone else, everybody is baffled by his decision making and I dread to think what goes on in that changing room and how many eyes are rolling.

Any other club if this was going on LVG would have gotten the bullet, I would put everything I own on that. He is benefiting from Moyes and the fact SAF was with us so long and started slow, our board are scared in particular Woodward, because it would mean he would likely be sacked for poor performance as well if he fires LVG.

12 Jan 2015 15:14:06
My worry is, if he's concentrating so much on fitness, why do we seem to be struggling more in the second halves of matches? Where is our much-vaunted fight to the last second mentality?

12 Jan 2015 15:22:37
Moyes was the one who had the team doing a lot of physical fitness training as well as changing the team's diet, a lot of the injuries last year were muscular strains which then proved that point. This year players like Wayne have said that training is better because there is more training with the ball. Also the injuries we are having this season aren't all muscular.

For example, Rojo, Blind, Rooney and Herrera have all been injured due to an impact inury rather than muscular. Then there's player's like Smalling, Rafa, Young and Jones who have made/are making a name for themselves as being injury prone because of their record since they joined. The only player i'm concerned about that may be suffering from the so called outdated training methods is Luke Shaw.

RvP has been fit for most the season which is a rarity considering he probably covers less ground than DDG. I fail to see how the injuries are directly related and only related to LvG's training which is what some people are making it out to be, there's a chance a lot of it is bad luck and split second rash/unintelligent thinking from some players.

They overdo it in training Noucamp in my view, nothing left in the locker.

Maybe something in how much thinking the players have to do as well, half of their energy will be zapped just trying to remember the millimetre of turf they should be on for any given situation. Footballers typically aren't the sharpest tools in the box, so over thinking things leads to fatigue as well as physical exertion. I don't know if this is part of it of course.

12 Jan 2015 16:06:09
Again beast u are attempting to try and pass of your opinions as a fact while totally ignoring the facts.

Not once have I claimed in anyway lvg is the messiah like a lot of posters on throw at gds (which I'll add he has not either).

My gripe with you atm and I'll just state for the record I have nothing against u beast and welcome your opinions as much as anyone's on here that it seems that EVERY post u make is loaded for another bashing of a team and manager doing what I think people expected in terms of position.
We are challenging in the top 4 and are winning games.
At this point we are on for equalling our points total against arsenal, spurs and Chelsea with a game to go still. We have took more points of Everton than we did last year and as of yet barring mk dons and a few odd ref decisions at Leicester have yet to have been resoundingly beaten.

Do I expect better? Yes I do of course I do because other than the points I have made we have yet to totally blitz a team too (other than hull).

I commented to my friend last night I feel lvg has lost us 5 or 6 points this season already and if he wants to stick around for the long term he needs to sort out his in game management.

The negatives I see are the poor decisions still being made in the games and odd subs.

The positives I see are belief and hunger back.

We have had so many injuries and most in the same area, that a level of consistency has not been able to be built up in key areas of the team, and yes lvg again can be questioned about training methods and such, but I also see the same players that have always been injury prone are the ones getting injured still, Jones smalling and Evans were hardly mainstays in our team pre lvg.

I'm not here to fight his corner but I can see improvement. If that goes against your narrative so be it. I'm not on here to gain a following from people who change there minds more than most.

Like I have said your posts are coming across in a way where it seems you are more interested in agrees than actually making a point now.
Every post seems to be loaded to achieve the inevitable lvg out future post from you.

Right now we are playing and looking like a team that has had 3 managers in 2 years, each with an idea how to change the team back to winning ways, ure answer is to go and get a 4th in 2 years, mine is to support wot we have Untill it's obvious that a change is needed, which u can tell I clearly don't feel there is. If in another 6 games we still are losing games (and its Worth pointing out we have only lost one game in 12/14 games) and lvg is still making these so called errors then my tune will change I'm sure.

Chris - I even say at the very end of the post "I don't know if this is part of it of course", so how am I passing my opinions off as Fact? I deliberately try to add imo or disclaimers in case people think I know more than I am making out or think I am attempting to start trouble. I certainly don't want to come across in the manner you believe I am, it isn't my intention. I simply watch the same game, read the same statements and hear the same excuses/rationale as 99% of our fans, nothing more and at the moment my views seem to be more in favour than they were a couple of months ago that's all.

It hasn't been plain sailing for the manager with the injuries, adapting to a new league, a down beat team and following a World Cup. However he isn't making anything easy on himself, he keeps making amateur mistakes, didn't we sign him for his experience? Well all I see is a spoilt brat in charge of the team who has not advanced us since Moyes despite the numerous advantages he had over Moyes, fixtures, money, player respect (not sure on this now but he certainly had it), fan patience, no CL doubts corrupting league plans, weaker competitors, (league table proves this) - Media love in, which is starting to turn, but Moyes was destined to fail from the get go.

It wasn't an easy job by any stretch, but it was certainly easier than LVG is making it look.

We all want the same thing mate for Utd to be playing well and winning things, if we are going to get back to that level then I think there are far more efficient routes to take than the LVG rollercoaster, that's all.

12 Jan 2015 17:24:27
Nope Ozwald, Rojo dislocating his shoulder was down to him having to do shuttle runs in training the day before, same as Herrera, he broke his rib because he had to do a bleep test on the Thursday during session number 2.

12 Jan 2015 01:36:56
Ed002, you mentioned Benzema in a reply to another post. Is he a player we are looking at for next season? Would much prefer him over the likes of Falcao and Cavani.

Noticed you didn't mention any wingers though, do you not see us targeting any for the summer? I'd of thought at least one would be one the agenda given our severe lack of quality out wide at the moment.

Thanks

{Ed002's Note - Benzema is available for the summer and do not be surprised by a bid. The priorities that need dealing with first are well known.}

Benzema is a clever footballer but lacks pace, reminds me, in many ways of Berbatov.

Benzema is someone I would love to see here if Falcao is not the one. He is fat better than Cavani and would add a lot.

12 Jan 2015 09:28:37
If we aren't to sign Falcao then other options i would consider long before looking at Benzema would be Thomas Muller or Paulo Dybala as a young up and coming option.

Of course we could go a different way altogether. People forget we already have RvP and Wilson and Rooney is best used as a striker. So why not a switch to playing a single striker and sign someone like Reus instead of Falcao and play Reus Rooney or RvP and Di Maria as a front three?

Benzema is far quicker than Berbatov was and is more powerful. If he was in the middle with Rooney behind and pace either side of him like Di Maria and Cuadrado then we would be a fantastically potent force going forwards.

Totally agree Shappy.

12 Jan 2015 11:36:02
Ed002 you also mentioned Krul in the post panebello referes too, do you expect De Gea to move on this summer?

{Ed002's Note - Perhaps.}

12 Jan 2015 01:03:09
Love reading the site every day and the diference of opinions beast gets a lot of stick some justified some not I thought we would be sound when we got lvg but until he gets his head outof his arse I think top four is slipping away van persie is finished mata as mutch as I love i'm as a player isnot what we need falcao and hearra spelling must be thinkingwhy the hell did I come here for anybody to say our defence is good is dreaming no matter howmanygoals conceded the shots on target ar3 shocking I hope lvg turns it roud but the same is going to happe n like at barcelona playing favourites and the crowd getting pissed off