Manchester United Banter Archive May 12 2012

12 May 2012 21:06:00
well the deal must be advanced for both ferguson and phelan to be there night before a big game or they've written off the league

12 May 2012 20:30:12
kagawa looks a real talent, really hope we sign him!
similar sort of player to nasri and silva.

JK92

12 May 2012 20:22:39
They say united are going tospend 100 million do u think united can sign both kagawa and munain.

12 May 2012 20:06:08
Kagawa's brilliant showing aside, I cannot help but admire the work that has been done by the dortmund coach over the past few seasons. They really play beautifully. He has owned bayern head to head, made some brilliant signings, and brought young players through the ranks - a bit like United will have to operate it order to withstand City's billions. Maybe we should be running the rule over Klopp as well.

Windy City Red {Ed004's Note - I was thinking that myself earlier on today. He has done a wonderful job at Dortmund and they play lovely football. If they someone managed to persuade Kagawa to stay they will have a front 4 of Kagawa, Reus, Gotze and Lewandowski... Now that is some attack...}

12 May 2012 19:58:49
Alex Ferguson at the Liga Pokal final... Must be impressed by Kagawa 1 goal and an assist...

Like the look of hummels as well at the back... sold defencively and confident enough to take a penalty (got a bit lucky with it)

fearny

12 May 2012 19:54:26
so fergie and mike phelan have just watched Kagawa's first half, he's scored and assisted another with exactly the kind of pass we've been missing this season. very much hope we get him

12 May 2012 19:49:56
Well Kagawa scoring in the final with SAF and Phelan watching on just makes his arrival even more likely! It would not surprise me if they go and see him after the match and possibly have some contact with Dortmund officials. Meeting Kagawa in person could swing the balance. There is obviously strong interest there as he is in Germany before a massive match.

I think we will know in the next couple of weeks whether Kagawa will be our first summer signing. I think he will be, Clyne will follow. I'm looking forward to seeing both of them in a United shirt. Both would be great. The next decision to make from SAF would be whether to sign Hazard or a top class forward like van Persie. We couldn't have both. If we do sign Kagawa then it will be a strong midfielder that comes in, like Martinez/Fellaini/Witsel as getting in someone like Modric would not be a good balance as we'd have a very light weight squad.

RedDevil19

12 May 2012 19:48:09
holy shinji!!

12 May 2012 19:34:29
I'm gonna be right f**ked off if this German final ends 3-1 Dortmund!

I tried putting on 3-1 Kagawa first scorer at 100-1 and Sly Bet cancelled scorecast as I was putting it on. £5 was the bet so come on Munich haha.

Jono

12 May 2012 19:21:08
Fergie and Phelan at the German Cup Final tonight.

12 May 2012 19:01:40
Sigurdsson is must for me,for that price I really think we would regret him going elsewere,10M for a player who has premier league experiance,got a eye for goal,can pick a pass and awesome set piece specialist and at 22 I think has the potential to be world class!even if we have or haven't got a big transfer budget he has to be signed imo he is pure class!

12 May 2012 17:34:08
If you had this amount of money for each position. Plus these were the prices set by the Clubs.
Who would you buy?

LB or RB 10m
Baines or Debuchy
Young LB or RB 2m
Willems or Clyne
Bargain Midfielder 7m
K.Asamoah or Kagawa
EPL experienced CM 18
Cabaye or Felliani
Luxury Star 30m
Hazard or Lucas Da Silva
Hot prospect 3m
Powell or Kovacic

TOTAL 60m spent
Wages will even itself with players sold and retired.

Submit your one or the others?.........

12 May 2012 16:22:00
the ed`s are fair in all matters but i think your right with regards to who knows whats going on, utd will be playing there cards very close to their chests this transfer window, might even be a few surprises as well, utd will let leak what they want other to know with the hope it will keep prices down on the rea ltargets.
if utd get it wrong this season then fergie should give up and move on, its blatantly obvious were we need new blood, it should have come in last season but the old timers decided they could match the young ones, that idea failed miserably!
it will be intersting to see how much the glaziers release for team building tho, 3 players would be the minimum, 4 class players would help us compete with city and im guessing chelsea next season, if they get a new manager, just watch the money that will be thrown at clubs.
so less than 100 million and i would say hands are being tied behind backs, two midfielders, a forward and a defender, possibly 2.

12 May 2012 15:15:21
Who would you rather have, Sanchez or Hazard?

12 May 2012 14:56:36
A good story in the paper today that made me chuckle, Skrtel wanting out of Liverpool as he is fed up of no Champions League football. I thought you guys were a team on the up? It sounds to me as though one of your best players wants to leave, you might even luis Suarez to PSG, then you really are in trouble. Don't worry though, King Kenny will bring in Danny Graham to replace him.

RedDevil19

12 May 2012 14:50:00
It seems Leicester & Middlesborough are interested in loaning Cole, James?, Fryers? And W.Keane.
I've heard Crystal Palace have asked for M.Keane as part of the Clyne deal on the grapevine. This is great news as it makes watching the Championship more interesting.

Fergie has mentioned Petrucci leaving on loan. Do you think Premiership Clubs would give him a try?

Also what will happen to DeLaet, Brown, Wootton, Brady, Norwood, King, Macheda all sent on loan last season. Will they go on loan again? Sold? Or be back up squad players?

12 May 2012 14:34:25
hey im a big fan of man utd they are just the best! i really like rooney and nani

12 May 2012 14:09:35
End of season reflections

Bought poorly last summers at least we did in the positions required.

Poor in all Cups - particularly the Champions League where we were made to look ordinary by average team. Bilbao also taught us a footballing lesson and they are not the best within their own country.

Didn't use the January window to strengthen in key places - Vidic and Fletcher positions. (The Vidic loss proved to be catastrophic )

Not enough goal threat - can't understand why we didnt use Berbatov and Hernandez more, particularly when the goal difference was so wide. Sorry but for all Danny Welbecks effort he will never be a prolific goalscorer

Departure of better quality younger players, though appreciate the circumstances behind at least one of these

Strange team decisions - particularly at the latter, important end of the season.

It has been a really strange season. The Premier league has been crap and United, Chelsea and Arsenal are certainly not the threats that they once were and have all been in some decline for the last few year. To finish where we are will be a pleasant surprise.

Sorry but City should have won this by a mile and perhaps would have done but for Toure swanning off to the African nations and Kompany's suspension. I really think that without either of these , they are a far less potent force. Anywas enough of them.

The future for us : Firstly and perhaps most importantly we need to stabilise and clarify the financial position. We are the Worlds biggest club and to have to play second fiddle to our neighbours is really galling. How we address it I don't know but it is clear that since the Glazers arrival the quality of the squad has over the years reduced quite significantly and we are now having to rely on ageing players, whereas in the past Fergie has relied heavily and successfully on Youth.

Money is the cancer within football. The events at Rangers should be a wake up call for us all and am sure there are other clubs in an equally perilous position. The City situation is the exception but there again over the years we have seen similar regimes at Chelsea and Blackburn and United have fought back to overcome these as we will do again .

My main concern is with Fergie ( sorry ) The legend is now over 70 and there has to come a time when he moves on - when this will be ?? Football evolves and in the past he has changed his number 2's with regularity - Kidd, McClaren, Queiroz, Walter Smith and to me he should now have somebody alongside him, who is preparing the Club for the next phase of our future and that person should be the one who is charged with bringing new players in. Why let Fergie spend 100 million if he leaves in 2 years, only for a new manager to come in and dispose of those ? To have him still managing the club when he is 75 is a worrying thought, more so if he is working within the same financial parameters as he is at present.

Sorry, but it needs freshening up. Both the management and coaching styles appear dated as does the squad. I read the posts on here with interest and agree with the thought that we could see up to another 10 players leave the squad this year - Berbatov, Owen, Kuscsak, Pogba, Anderson, Scholes with Lindegaard and Fryers both rumoured not to be happy. It creates a big hole in the squad and one that needs to be plugged with some young quality players, ideally ones who are not just coming to Old Trafford just for the money !!.

As I said, football evolves and we are, I feel on the verge of some significant changes. The Fergie situation and the success of the Floatation within a Far Eastern stock exchange will be key and thus determine whether we are able to stand toe to toe with City during the coming years.

Life is and always will be red.

Happy summer to you all

Busby 68

12 May 2012 13:49:23
ed, is it true kagawa said he would decide his future after todays game?

JK92 {Ed002's Note - Sounds like Twitter.}

12 May 2012 12:29:59
Was reading an article at which compare teams of BVB and Bayern of 2008 and now.

Both teams have excelled like anything and without spending a lot.This is a prime example strong teams are built and not bought.

Mario Gomez, Mario Gotze, Mats Hummels, Shinji Kagawa, Toni Kroos, Manuel Neuer, Thomas Muller and Arjen Robben are few of the names and don think any of them costed a bomb but are now sought by many and command a hefty price tag.

Victor J. {Ed002's Note - Robben was hardly cheap.}

12 May 2012 10:24:57
so i heard from a few everton fans that moyes has been hinting in interviews that they may have to let baines and/or fellaini go to raise money for new signings.
everyone seems to want baines from everton but personally i would much prefer fellaini. he's got presence, can tackle, goes forward well AND can play a decent pass. i think he would be perfect along side someone more attacking. alright he's not world class yet, but he could be if he came to united.
anyone know if we are in for fellaini or have looked at him at all ? i would like to think we had at least thought about him

12 May 2012 09:26:24
Fergie has been quoted as saying that City would never recover if they didnt win the league this year - So does that mean the same for us then? Bit of a stupid way to try wind them up, think Fergie is starting to play mind games with himself in his old age. If we dont let giggs and scholes retire and replace them with 2 world class midfielders then its confirmation that United are a spent force and cant compete with top European clubs anymore.
Berbatov has been poor since day 1 and should have been sold after his first season as it was obvious he didnt fit - that was the start of it, Anderson, Park and Carrick are not world beaters so they should have been moved on and replaced when we might have got some money for them and then its onto our other strikers, I cant believe we have Michael Owen in our squad, its pointless, we should have a young and gifted striker, not some has been nag who was finished 5 years ago, Chicharito was a one season wonder and doesnt have the skill to create goals himself and his value has dropped about 10M this season aswell, so theres 8 players who should be moved on with Pogba its 9 so thats roughly 10 new players needed to challenge for honours, if we dont sign at least 6 then forget about it, I would urge my fellow fans to boycott the exorbitant ticket prices to see our beloved club as its not about us anymore, its an jewish/american money making machine designed only to serve its gluttonous owners appetite for money.

RED

12 May 2012 08:41:56
Just a little rumour I seen on givemefootball.com... Barca want Bale this summer. If this has any truth in it does it mean that one of Pedro or Sanchez will become available? I'd love to see either one of them at United.