Manchester United Banter Archive May 12 2019

 

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12 May 2019 22:04:15
Now that awful season is over, let's see how Woodward ruins the summer.

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12 May 2019 23:30:42
Haha, that made me chuckle. And then cry.

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Thoughts on What Manchester United Should Do in the Summer Transfer Window

12 May 2019 20:41:02
{Ed's Note - Kramskeeh has posted a new article entitled, Thoughts on What Manchester United Should Do in the Summer Transfer Window

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12 May 2019 21:44:49
We have no chance with jovic. He has just signed with a new club?

Jones is poor and lacks mobility and technique.

Apart from that I agree with what you put. Although selling Bailly maybe an issue as he has a knee injury which may mean he won't have recovered before the end of the summer transfer window.

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12 May 2019 20:15:07
An absolute embarrassment we are. Big job on for Ole now, worse than we ever thought, need to all stick together now, hope ole identifies a style, a system and the right players this summer, at few more years of pain possibly first tho.
On more positive news, Armageddon part 1 successfully avoided.

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12 May 2019 21:25:28
Absolute joke of a club. The players couldn’t give a toss, do you think there really bothered when they get in their super cars back to their mansions and their millions in the bank. It might hurt them for a milli second not like us fans who eat sleep and breath this great club. Bin the lot of them. Sick of these overpaid clowns. I’d chop my arm off to play 5 mins at Old Trafford.

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12 May 2019 22:10:43
Probably have saved a few that De Gea let in as well?

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13 May 2019 08:43:50
There is much to consider and perhaps a lot is true but the darkest hour is just before the dawn. We as fans can't be the only worriers. surely owners are casting a concerned eye as potential revenue has dropped. They are business first and foremost and the core product being football so this surely can't last.
Anyway, three or four committed, character filled players (not even worldies) would help. let's not despair, this is a huge club and we have been down before.

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12 May 2019 19:59:39
One of the most frustrating things about the last 2 games is if we had of won them we would be in the top 4 really bad end to the season.

At least its blatantly obvious to everyone involved with the club that serious changes are required don't think I've ever felt so low as a supporter of the club but being 32 I have been spoilt as fergie was appointed a month before I was born.

We'll be back at the top again but realistically at least a few years off that.

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12 May 2019 21:56:34
Personally its good we missed out on the champions league. It would've papered over the cracks and led to less being done.

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12 May 2019 22:02:07
GD, we would have missed out on goal difference.

But still, the atmosphere round here might be a little better.

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13 May 2019 06:16:50
Yeah realised after I sent. Was thinking we had lost at huddersfield to.

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13 May 2019 06:23:37
I don't know about that Wazza, the last time we missed out on something due to goal difference the site was pretty disappointed.

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12 May 2019 19:28:25
Well Thank god that's over.
Its been dismal since the window closed last august and jose effectively gave up.
We had a fine period winning lots of games and had a surge in form that just shouldered to a halt.
Ole is now telling us all what jose told us at the end of last season.

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12 May 2019 20:10:05
But Ole is one of us and he gets us. 😂😂😂😂😂 We are in for a bumpy ride if next year.

If we can't win against teams like Huddersfield and Cardiff then its scary thinking what's going to happen next year.

We are miles off the top and until we got rid of Young, Jones and Smalling from the defence we are going to leak goals like we qare on loose motion.

If anyone thinks the football is going to improve then you are delusional because until Mick Phelan is there you are going to se esimilar type of football.

Those that wantwd rid of Mourinho bevause of getting bored of football, well now you will still get bored of football but also your going to have to start getting used to losing with Ole and Phelan in charge.

The only positive thing today was that Greenwood looks a top player but is a few years away from reaching his potential.

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12 May 2019 20:17:25
with woodward having anyting to do with the footbaling side even the best manages would be on a hiing to nothing.

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12 May 2019 20:57:08
Not just Woodward, there is also Fergie lingering in the background.

A manager is not a manager when he keeps going to someone else for advice.

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12 May 2019 21:11:36
I can see plenty of new signings coming in pretty quickly.

I have heard we will be signing a new official tyre partner in Indonesia and a a new airline sponsor Allareflops.

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12 May 2019 22:58:28
😂😂😂.

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13 May 2019 14:53:51
I really don't get the SAF bashing. I know we're all mad, but what has he done to warrant this except make us so entitled that we feel robbed if we don't win.

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12 May 2019 18:24:36
Alright boys not the best season but on we go, we will see what the summer brings us,
At the moment we are a few sandwiches short of a picnic, I don't think ole is the man for us but we will have to wait and see,
I would greatly thank the eds for all the time they put in to this site to give us the platform to talk to each other and have a moan,
It's hard to thank them individually but we can see the time they put in, Ed001 for all the write ups most days better than any newspaper.
And all the posters for posting,
All and all the best site on the Internet for me.
Thank you all kindly.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you mate. I really appreciate that. Especially at the moment!}

12 May 2019 19:20:44
Great post leahy mate. I echo all of that.

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12 May 2019 20:10:53
Well done to all the Eds and have an awesome summer.

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{Ed007's Note - An you buddy 👍

13 May 2019 03:03:39
Thanks to the Ed’s and all posters.
Onward we go.

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13 May 2019 14:52:15
Well said leahy. Many thanks for all the insight the eds have kindly provided us. It’s been a horrible season but this site has been a great way to vent my frustration. I’m logging off for the summer as I need time to step away from football and enjoy more important things in life. Have a nice summer and see you all at the beginning of the season.

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12 May 2019 18:08:24
Right, seasons over and we can put that shower of c**p behind us. On the pitch we have been about as poor as we possibly could have been. However, as seen today our undoing this season has been the complete inability to defend.

The first goal was unfortunate. That was a shocking decision by the Ref who looked overweight and unfit. He was in a bad position and he guessed a decision. That was unfortunate. If there is one manager you don't want to go 1-0 down to it is Warnock. Cardiff shut up shop after that moment and sat deep and in numbers making it nearly impossible to break down. The second goal came from a moment of naivety from McTominay, finding himself playing at CB as surprise surprise Jones picked up an injury he got rolled and they had an ocean on space. Just poor defending.

None of Jones, Smalling, Rojo or Bailly are good enough to be starting every week. Most aren't good enough as a rotation option. Darmian, Valencia and Young aren't good enough at full back either. Hardly surprising with 2 or 3 of this lot starting every week we struggle to not ship goals.

That lack of confidence in our defence spreads through the team. Personally I would ship all of them out. Promote Tuanzebe and Mitchell to the first team squad. Then buy a RB and TWO CB's.

Until we sort our defence out everything else pitch wise is futile.

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12 May 2019 18:32:09
Your right shappy shipping two at home to Cardiff is incredibly disappointing but so is scoring nil and one to two related teams.

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12 May 2019 18:52:33
Slate, Scoring is so much harder when your worrying about being hit on the counter. The lack of stability at the back makes it harder to control the game and create those goal scoring chances. Another real issue we have had this season is a lack of confidence amongst our forwards. Many of them have snatched at shots they should be burying.

I would give Lukaku another season. He scored 27 last season, and if we are to play a two striker system then he will be useful. I think the issue is he spent last summer bulking up, which has hindered him. If we can get him on a tone down plan over the summer where he can become leaner, fitter and more agile then he could be a striker reborn next season.

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12 May 2019 18:59:44
Problem is Jones and Smalling have signed new deals and even if we made it clear that we wanted to sell who is going to buy them?

Ole needs to be brutal and tell the players that are not good enough that they need to leave as they have no future. The time has come to start moving this club forward and there are too many mediocre players in this squad.

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12 May 2019 19:09:38
I don't just blame the strikers shappy, a striker is probably only as good as his service, we have scored loads less than pool or city, to be honest pretty much all departments need improving and an old adage is start at the back so I don't really dispute what yr saying .
I'm one of the people a couple of year ago who was excited at the thought of rash and martial but I have to be honest they looked better prospects two year ago, they got a raw deal when Sanchez arrived but to be honest haven't helped themselves much either.

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12 May 2019 19:14:50
Maybe with our contacts we could get a good price for Jones, Young and Rojo from Salford?

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12 May 2019 19:22:22
The problem is it won't be up to ole who goes. I wouldn't be surprised to see young Jones smalling and shaw as the back 4 next season.
I always try to take the positives but there are none. It will be a tough few years ahead, unless big decisions are made correctly I won't be holding my breath.

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12 May 2019 19:34:54
We could have any striker in world football in our team we would still struggle to score goals


We don't have natural wingers we have no quality midfielders that can control games pick passes out that can change the game.

We have defenders with no leadership not one single bit of awareness or ability to do the simple things you expect a professional footballer to do.


We have a team full or poisons and until this is changed expect nothing different next season.


We can all complain and call it an embarrassment but the players do not care. why would they there still getting the money each week.

Woodard needs to step up and show some balls and do what he didn't do last summer and back the manager


We finished 2nd last season miles off 1st and we signed one player for the first team in fred

How can you expect to challenge when you don't improve.

Unless we make major changes this is where we have become.

Enjoy the summer off and hope by some miracle something positive happens with this club.

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12 May 2019 23:04:16
I know that people say that the players get paid too much and don't care but i think that latter criticism is unfair. I don't think anybody would want to have to constantly face public criticism about the way they did their job. To me the problems stem right from the top. The club appears rudderless, no clear direction, without focus and this has transmitted itself to the players. Allied to this is the lack of real leaders on the pitch.

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12 May 2019 16:54:41
All the Eds thanks for the best site ever. Have a fantastic summer.
Will still be checking on the site for interesting information. God bless everyone and see you all next season.

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{Ed004's Note - Thank you Red}

12 May 2019 14:54:22
Hi Ed,

Thanks for all the time and information you're constantly giving us!

I tried the search engine but couldn't find anything specific - I was wondering if you had any insight as to the long term futures of Smalling and Jones? Besides the fact that they've been awarded recent contracts, as a biased observer I was hoping that would be more to do with the fact that we wouldn't want to let them leave on a free or for cheap - rather than the club expecting them to be in the squad for another 5 years.

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{Ed002's Note - They were not given the new contracts in order to increase their values. I am surprised that happed.}

12 May 2019 16:01:44
Thanks Ed. You’re not the only one.

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12 May 2019 18:58:28
According to reports phil jones was the most surprised when he got the call that he was getting a new contract.

He had a one year option that the club could have triggered if they wanted to.

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12 May 2019 19:17:52
Jones is banging the daughter of one of the Glazers, Young is closely linked with Singapore Noodles and Smalling is the next quarter back for Tampa Bay. What other reason to keep them three?

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12 May 2019 20:14:26
I almost believed you but Jones gets injured walking onto a pitch. Athletic bedroom gymnastics would finish him.

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12 May 2019 12:26:39
The legend that is Robin Van Persie retires today. Absolutely loved the man, untouchable and one of the best forwards to grace the Old Trafford turf. Oh how we could do with him now.

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12 May 2019 14:01:50
A truly world class striker with magnificent technique. A aesthetically pleasing footballer to watch when he was at the peak of its powers. I wish we had got him earlier and that he had been here longer. Short and sweet, but what an impact he had. Was an enjoyable season when we last won the league. Happy retirement robin you legend.

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12 May 2019 14:35:51
Great player who due to injury only had two seasons that statistically lived up to his talent. Without the inspired one he had at United, we would no doubt not have won our 20th league title. But for me, he always looked a little out of place in a United shirt. And while his acquisition was inspired, behind it the rot was already settling in as our best players came to the end of their careers, not to be replaced by ones with equal talent (there being no value in the market? ) . RVP's and United's success that year was obfuscatory. It was the end of an era, a final hurrah for him and SAF. Now the transition is complete. Gone also are Mourinho and Wenger, our challengers, with all that they represented being eclipsed by Klopp and Guardiola, and to some extent Pocchetino. Sic transit gloria mundi.

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12 May 2019 15:05:30
Disagreed with your comment shaw because this is a post celebrating Robin van Persie’s career but you’ve again dragged our current situation into it for no reason.

All the best to Robin in retirement, he was a great player, scorer of spectacular goals. I’ll never forget that header against Spain, probably the best headed goal I’ve seen.

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12 May 2019 12:01:36
So a slight change of topic, with Valencia leaving this summer along with Herrera and most likely Mata as well who would be your pick for club captain?

A captain should be a player others look to for leadership, a player setting the standard. However, often I feel it now goes to the most popular or whoever is the most marketable or whoever has been at the club longest.

I would like to see it go to Lindelof, hard working pro who doesn't mess around off the pitch. Always gives his all, and has over come adversity after a tough start to his career. He is also the only player other than Ander and occasionally Young who will attempt to gee up his team mates when we go a goal down. He has fight in him, and we will need that moving forward. Young, Pogba or Smalling would be the wrong choice in my opinion for different reasons.

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12 May 2019 12:27:05
Lindelöf presuming no one better comes in.

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12 May 2019 12:32:14
Definitely agree on Lindelof.

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12 May 2019 12:58:57
The captain should always be a centre back or centre midfielder. The only one in the discussion is Lindelof.

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12 May 2019 12:59:45
Lindelof or Matic.

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12 May 2019 13:10:54
Mort, I don't agree that a Captain should play in a certain position. It's down to mentality and personality, not footballing skill set. I would agree that it helps if the Captain plays centrally as they are able to speak to most players that way and they will more than likely be in the thick of the action.

But there have been some great captains who have been full backs, forwards or even goalkeepers.

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12 May 2019 13:17:23
I don't agree with it going to forwards they don't see enough of the game and have enough with scoring. I didn't it was due to skill set just the communication factor. Full backs maybe but I think being centrally positioned is easier.

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12 May 2019 13:20:43
De Ligt 🙄.

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12 May 2019 13:24:12
It’s slim pickings. I don’t think anybody at the club is captain material but from the current crop it would be Lindelof.

I wouldn’t be against a new player coming in and taking the armband straight away. Toby would be a good candidate or a player of similar quality and experience.

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12 May 2019 13:33:03
Axel Tuanzebe, has captained at every youth level and if we don't sign a centre back in the summer, he is better than every defender at the club apart from lindelof.

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12 May 2019 13:37:14
Mort, What about Rooney, Cantona, Law or Chalton? Were they not good Captains despite being forwards?

What about Del Piero? Raul? Rivaldo? Totti? Kane? Messi? Maradona?

Some of these guys have Captained their sides to some of the biggest honours in world football.

I agree that for several reasons it might be preferable to have someone who can see the whole pitch. However, you captain isn't necessarily responsible for dictating play. He is there to lead the team by example, set the tone of the team.

Vidic and Keane were great captains, yet neither dictated play.

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12 May 2019 14:41:26
There are not many candidates. I think Young or Smalling will get it but neither should be near the first eleven in my opinion so shouldn't get it.

As others have said, Lindelof is about the only player in our defence who could be a good choice.i

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12 May 2019 16:49:53
I'll grant you Cantona. Rooney was a poor captain and Law and Charlton had it on seniority, same as some others on your list.

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12 May 2019 11:37:53
Hi eds few rumours of interest in alexis from italy. Is it just usual nonsense? Or has any interest in him developed?
Thanks as always big thanks for the season before the summer nonsense starts.

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{Ed002's Note - I am aware of him being offered to an Italian side but it would not be financially viable.}

12 May 2019 12:05:52
Getting Sanchez and Pogba out the door is possibly the most important business the club needs to do this summer. Both massively disrupt the dressing room for different reasons.

If we are to rebuild the garden the weeds need ripping out first. That might leave a massive bare patch in the lawn but the garden will never flourish if the weeds are allowed to remain. They will draw all the resources to themselves and choke the life out of any new shoots.

Rip them out root and stem. Then and only then will growth be possible.

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12 May 2019 12:17:47
Thanks a lot for the info ed have a great day.

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{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

12 May 2019 12:56:54
Getting Ole Gonner our non-manager is a rather more important defenstration.

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12 May 2019 13:02:39
Its not Sanchezs fault he is on 500k a week or whatever and he has a better attitude then Pogba. He is just a bit reserved where as Pogba is the main problem and players like Martial, Rashford and Lingard hide behind him.

Its another thing Sanchez isn't playing well or past his best but you can't put fingers on him b3cause of the wqge he g3ts or his attitude.

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12 May 2019 13:21:58
Singh, I would question Sanchez's attitude. Against Huddersfield he didn't fancy it and asked to leave the pitch at the first chance he got. Are his wages his fault? Certainly not, but he did choose money over the chance to win trophies. Pep was in for him until his wage demands put City off. That suggests that money was his motivation for this move and not football. He gets the money regardless so why give your all.

His attitude is better than Pogba's, but that isn't saying much. Like saying Mussolini's rhetoric was better than Hitlers. Marginally but neither were great.

Sanchez appears to work hard on the pitch when the ball is near him, but other than that he doesn't do the leg work required. He has one of the lowest distance covered per 90 minutes in our squad. Pogba on average runs nearly twice as far during a game. Makes more sprints, and attempts and wins more tackles.

Either way attitude aside, the wages and the bonuses Sanchez is on is destabilising the dressing room. DDG is demanding parity to Sanchez, and why shouldn't he based on form? Both were signed with more than half an eye on the commercial benefits each of them could bring the club. That is why Ed went the extra mile on their wages. They are exactly the type of signings the club should be steering well clear from in the future. To re balance the dressing room they both need to go, regardless what is costs the club.

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12 May 2019 13:24:28
Yes never ever sanchez fault, he is just the highly paid victim with problems all around him. We will just ignore the fact he has as many goals in the premier league as kasper schmeichel has assists.

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12 May 2019 08:31:51
Morning Ed's hope you've had a great weekend.

Do United still have interest in Danny Rose as he looks to be leaving Spurs this summer, or are other positions a priority now that Shaw is back in favour?

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{Ed002's Note - No, there is no interest from MU in Danny Rose right now.}

12 May 2019 10:18:51
Thank you Ed have a good day.

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{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

12 May 2019 17:21:57
I wouldn't look at a LB this window. There are so many other positions that need sorting out before we bring in competition for Luke Shaw.

If we bring in a first choice RB then Dalot can be the rotation option with Shaw and the new RB and still play 30 games next season.

I'm in two minds about who I would want at RB though. AWB has been a phenomenon this season and appears to have the attitude and work ethic we need, with the advantage of being a homegrown player. But at his age he might block Dalot in the medium to long term. Meunier might be a better option age wise, but is he good enough defensively for the EPL? He doesn't get tested properly in France especially playing for PSG who spend 90% of most matches attacking. In truth I would be happy with either, but can see a potential draw back in each of them.

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Review Of The Day 12th May 2019

12 May 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 12th May 2019

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