Manchester United Banter Archive June 13 2014

13 Jun 2014 20:52:51
GDS

I know we share a similar outlook but I do wonder if we have a plan this year. We expected more than we got than the car crash of last year's window - there is a part of me that wonders if we have learnt our lesson. I don't think we need the drama and panic some are showing but time will tell I guess.

On another note, watching the Spain Holland game - that Snidger bloke looks good, worth a bid perhaps

That Robben fellow isn't bad either surely worth a punt on another note Van Persie looks sharp and in the mood

13 Jun 2014 23:21:15
Imagine if we were watching that game and didn't already have van persie how excited we would be at the prospect of signing him and him playing under van gaal. Sometimes easy to forget the players you already have.

Agree fully with your post AJH, not learning our lesson has to be the worry, it could all go wrong again this summer and we start the season with as bad a team as last year. Even if that was the case it doesn't need the drama and panic, and it is definitely not needed at the moment. We are all worried that this season will be as bad as last season, but got to be optimistic, we got rid of the manager who wasn't good enough so that's already a start.

My favourite part of the World Cup so far is the goal line technology on every goal, hasn't failed to make me laugh each and every time.

{Ed004's Note - Alexis Sanchez been class so far}

If van persie plays like that under van Gaal I would say we have probably the best out and out striker in the world. Add Sanchez to that and it would be incredible, he's played 30 minutes and has been incredible with skill, goals, assists and work rate.

{Ed004's Note - Mata supplying Januzaj, Van Persie and Sanchez}

Yes ed, couldn't agree more. Was very impressed with Blind as well - his work rate as well as his assists. Those players look like they would go through hell and back for van Gaal.

Costa looked rubbish yet again. I know he has been carrying, but I can't help thinking that Chelsea have done it again, Shevchenko, Crespo, Casiraghi, Torres, Etoo, the graveyard of strikers!

Spot on Beast. What really is all the Costa fuss about? But he'll be as good as Drogba in getting penalties!

Sorry but I'm simply not having Pierluigi Casiraghi lumped in with all those others. The guy played 10 games for Chelsea, yes TEN, before his career was effectively ended by a cruciate ligament injury.

Ok I'll sub Casiraghi for Kezman & Mutu double act.

13 Jun 2014 16:03:32
Anybody else starting to panic about the lack of transfer activity, shaw bid gone cold. Other teams signing players left, right and center. I honestly pray were just being ultra private about players coming in.

13 Jun 2014 16:40:51
Yes if you have read the page you are posting on plenty of people are beginning to panic.

No, not a bit of panic in me, it's all a game that affects you in no way. If you feel a bit panicky think of something that could happen to you or a loved one and worrying about a bunch of lads kicking a ball about will fade away.

13 Jun 2014 18:46:48
Well said, Carloto. It's all about perspective.

If the game doesn't affect you in any way carloto, it's the wrong game for you!

Actually it does affect me but not to the extent I'd come in a forum to get panicked and upset about not buying players.
And having your son diagnosed with an inoperable brain tumour really puts things into perspective, football really isn't worth getting stressed.

Sorry to hear that Carloto, and nice work Strebor, real classy.

13 Jun 2014 23:13:21
carloto sorry to hear that I am in total agreement football means nothing compared to that do not realy no what to say only sorry for what is happening to your family

13 Jun 2014 23:32:14
Dodgy banter his comment obviously wasn't up when I commented! Come on I'm not heartless. My bad carloto my apologies

Pretty sure Shaw deal is done, the rest no one knows because it's new players daily

Carloto my thoughts are with you and your family, tough times just hang on in there mate

14 Jun 2014 10:37:24
Sorry to hear about that carloto, I really hope everything works out for u mate.
God bless u and ure son, no 1 deserves that kind of thing esp a young'un.

Chris

14 Jun 2014 11:57:44
Sorry to hear Carloto, God bless you and your son

14 Jun 2014 19:42:19
Sorry to hear that Carloto my thoughts are with you and your family at this difficult time

13 Jun 2014 14:03:53
What are your thoughts on Anderson being a surprise bonus next season?

I think he could play the 8 role for LVG and could be a huge asset if he gets a good pre-season in him. He was a bit too reckless in a midfield 2 but I think he has all the skills to be a great player in a midfield 3, he attacks, takes the game to the opposition, passes very well, strong, quick, just lacks a bit of fitness and a run of games in a quality team.

I think given a chance he could eventually live up to the hope we had when he first signed. We still definitely need signings in midfield obviously, but as this will take a few windows he could be a surprise star for us next season imo.

I think he's had all his chances mate. If LVG is as strict as we are hearing I imagine Ando will be one of the first out of the door. Of all our current midfielders I think Clevs may be the one to improve under LVG and surprise a few people.

Is it that time of the year already?

OMG Beast I can't believe you even had the balls to write that.
How many chances has he had?
Face it, he's a fat overweight lazy git who's pi**ed away his talent.

Maybe lvg strictness will work, get him back into shape I always preferred Anderson to chevs better range of passing

Beast is that a tongue in cheek post?

Cue the fat jokes.
He's a sad case really. Bought in as a young dynamic attacking midfielder with skill and huge potential.And told to 'control' the midfield in a 2 man mid.Why did we ever bother?We played a formation in which there was no place for even kaka, let alone poor old anderson. Not every player can change his position and perform successfully.And now, his confidence is gone and its too late.

He didn't really get a chances last season. I think he was pulled off after 60 mins against Norwich and was our best player, yet the commentators didn't recognise it as usual.

I think Anderson suffered from SAF not spending quite as much time with young talent as he had in the past. He was kind of left to fester and get fatter, this wouldn't have happened 10 years ago and we would see a much better player now.

Of all our players that have flopped over recent years Anderson is the one I would roll the dice on as he has exactly what we need in his locker, it's just getting him to open it. A new shape (system wise) and man manager like the old Fergie could do that.

13 Jun 2014 16:47:24
Imightbesomeone I think if you remember ando was immense in a 2 man midfield in his first season hen injuries struck.

He did have fitter players around him though a few years ago.

Recently, immobile Carrick, Evra, Vidic & Rio plus inept wingers does not allow for a midfielder like Anderson to flourish, he needs movement around him and cover for when mistakes are made. A 3 man mid with some energy on the wings and at the back will allow him to thrive, if it isn't too late of course.

Not sure he is the answer but as with Nani I think within a defined role and strict fitness programme Anderson could be useful. Just not the answer!

Caolan

Yes, it started of nicely.But not for nearly long enough to be sure that partnership could take on better teams consistently.Point being, don't have space for a CAM-dont buy a CAM

Be better off with Hans Christian Anderson

Rk16

13 Jun 2014 13:43:52
Looks as if Sagna has agreed to sign with City. I think they realized their weakness was at the back however I am not sure that is the right signing for them.

He will come pricey and he isn't the youngest of lads.

Good signing on a free I think, consistant performer and prem proven. Saves them money for elsewhere in the squad.

Didn't need a right back have Zabaleta and Richards who will probably be let go

13 Jun 2014 09:48:26
To be fair, if we manage to sign one top player would be a miracle given we aren't qualified for CL. We need young players who has potential to be a top player. Isco is already near the world class. I don't think we will lure him even with higher wage.

I agree that to put faith in youth is good. And it is also more exciting to see young players develop into top class players than to buy a fully developed player. On the other hand, PSG, ManCity, Monaco (and perhaps Anzhi) managed to attract world class players without CL. So a question for Ed (even though you don't want to discuss money), but I am quite naive in this and would appreciate to get some insight: My impression through media is that ManUnited has been reluctant to pay large sums to agents in the past (Pogba?). Could this be a reason why the club have struggled/struggle to sign some big names?

{Ed002's Note - Putting aside Pogba which is unrelated, all clubs want to reduce the money they spend on agents - which can be very significant. It is not the reason Manchester United has "struggled" - Mata arrived for a very significant fee in January, so they are not struggling that much.}

I think we need a mix, young players like Shaw and Clasie are all well and good, but they are so much better with experienced players alongside them.

Ed, are we interested in Pogba this summer? I saw your post yesterday, I think, suggesting that Juve would be willing to sacrifice him for Sanchez and their finances

{Ed002's Note - I wouldn't hold your breath.}