Manchester United Banter Archive September 13 2014

13 Sep 2014 21:40:31
Looks like the real kagawa is back. Big congrats and all the very best. Big shame he did not settle. When was signed him I was hoping for big things from him but it just did not work out

What a reception kagawa got from dortmund fans loved it.He was one of my fav players, at the start of every season I had him in my fantasy manager team expecting this season he wil prove himself but I gues he was not fit for bpl. I really hope he excel at dortmund.

Couldn't agree more and good for him. Treated pretty shabbily at United. Brilliant to see that reception for him. Deserves it after his time at United.

How was he treated bad at United? He didn't perform well enough to warrant a place in the team, so he didn't get one - simple really.

I personally don't feel trivial sympathy for anyone who earns £1m+ pa without really having to work for it.

When you play someone out of position and without a proper run in the side its obvious any player no matter how good would struggle.fergie signed him, moyes didn't like him for some reason, couldn't of been that we were playing that brilliant he couldn't get in the team last season.he will shine again at dortmund and show people again what a good technically gifted player he his.dont forget he was kept out of the n/010 position by mata who at 37.5mill has got a lot of convincing to do, as so far a lot of people are not impressed.

I seem to remember Mata being stuck on the left under Moyes, he didn't play in the so called number 10 position.

Kagawa had a season under SAF too. I don't buy the "he didn't get a run of games" stance. He would've had plenty of opportunity to impress during training.

I liked the look of him as a player but he seemed to be a bit lightweight.

Sometimes some players just don't settle at some clubs and he certainly fell into that category with us. He did have one great game against Norwich though. loved that cheeky dummy and then tap in - pure class.

The reason I think he was treated shabbily is that in my opinion he didn't get a decent run in the team in his preferred position. He is an attacking central midfielder. He is wasted out wide. I think he is just a good a player as Mata. Certainly quicker. It's a bit ironic as Mata now finds himself in a similar situation.
Anyway, it's all academic now as he has moved to a club where he is allowed to play to the best of his abilities.
I still believe Ferguson wanted Lewandowski and to off load Rooney. I don't know about anyone else but I would of loved to have seen Lewandowski and Kagawa linking up at United.
But have to say more excited about the potential in Di Maria, Falcao, van Persie, Rooney, Januzaj and yes Mata.

13 Sep 2014 19:31:11
Looks like Moyes is about to be made favourite to take over at Newcastle if they get rid of Pardew (looking more and more likely).
Personally I hope he does get the job (if Pardew does go). He deserves another crack at a decent sized club and I imagine that he has learnt a lot from last year. A decent guy, good manager and will do well at his next club I am sure. Just unfortunately not the right man for us.

13 Sep 2014 20:16:51
That's the Geordies for the drop.

I think moyes would be a great shout for Newcastle, there's no expectation there so he would fit in well, they would become a decent side like everton

I wonder if he'll come back for Fellaini if so?

13 Sep 2014 19:00:12
I can't help but notice that James Wilson picks up minor niggles quite often(today's papers saying that he is not in squad for QPR game due to injury) and I was just wondering if this was more due to the fact that he is still developing physically rather than being injury prone?

13 Sep 2014 19:58:29
Yeah let's label him injury prone. He will never make it if his body keeps failing him like this.

His 18,mate. We are not going to throw him out there with a niggle if we don't have to. And with Rooney,Falcao and RvP we don't have to. It's called looking after your Young players.

BornIntoIt I think after the signings we have made this season some of the fans including me are a bit worried about how we will fit in the young players in the starting 11.

I can't see how anyone of Blackett, Januzaj and Wilson will start with the kind of players we've signed.

How long will these players be happy with sub appearances?

I think after the performances last season Januzaj should've been the first name on the team sheet but even he's not guaranteed a place.

Wilson should've been our sub striker now that both Chicha and Welbz are gone but how will he come on when we have either one of Rooney/RvP on the bench?

Despite the lack defensive stability the signings of Shaw, Rojo and to some extent Blind put Blackett's place in jeopardy.


These are the only 3 youngsters anywhere close to the squad and they are not likely to get much game time.


I am not complaining about the signings just worried that are we going the Real Madrid way?

Ok it'll get us success but are we okay with this approach to get success?

Januzaj may not play a lot this year but look for him to come to prominence in 2015/6. I am expecting some high profile departures next summer as older players are replaced, and as the squad re-balancing and tactical modernization continues. I would be surprised if Adnan didn't fit into LVG's medium term plans however, for this season, he will need to carpe diem when opportunities arise, as I'm sure they will. He is a young player and needs nurturing and protecting. Roma, with or without Strootman, wasn't built in a day.

I think this season may be a bit tricky for the younger players due to the restricted number of games we'll play this year but they will continue to learn from the more experienced players. As long as the team develops as we all expect it to and we get Champions League footy next season it will get better for them.
Exciting times!

14 Sep 2014 02:06:31
Surely having top young players that have to work hard to get a game is how it should be? The fact is last season we relied on januzaj a lot when we shouldn't have to. This year when he does play there will be a lot less pressure on him when he plays and he will be able to work on his game and prove his worth when he does play.

If the young players have the right temperment to play for utd there won't be a problem, blacket has had game time on tour and in the prem so far and wilson made his debut last season and has just moved up the pecking order.we will get injuries during the season so if there in the 1st team squad they will get chances.you will always get young players who think they can do better by demanding more money or playing time but most don't go very far ie zeki fryers already moved on from spurs, obviously not as good as he thought he was.

14 Sep 2014 12:02:54
Also would you rather have januzaj learn from di Maria or young? Wilson learning from falcao or blocked by Hernandez or welbeck?

13 Sep 2014 14:37:38
Was talking to a mate before (Chelsea fan) and we couldn't agree on who we would rather have at our club, Januzaj or Sterling. Personally I think januzaj is a much more complete player, what's everyone else's thoughts?

13 Sep 2014 14:53:57
Im a Utd fan, and for me Sterling is far better at the moment.
Januzaj frustrates me, he likes to play for himself rather than the team, that's just my view.

At this moment Sterling is better, so I would take him.
The difference between the two is that Sterling has played far more and has the confidence now of knowing he is as starter. Januzaj needs to play regularly to catch up with Sterling, but don't think it will be this season unfortunately.

Sterling has already made the transition to being an established premier league and international player. He's fast, direct, can pass and score and links up well. Janusaj is still a prospect. But then in which position would either of them be first choice in United's line up at the moment?

Building for the future, I'd take Sterling over Rooney and/or RVP and keep Janusaj. They're both exciting young talents with a decade of potential ahead of them.

13 Sep 2014 16:36:45
What are you saying, Sterling's a better bet than our captain?

Sterling will reach his potential earlier. He has the intelligence, touch and skills as do Januzaj but while they both lack experience, Sterling is more proven and he is much quicker, which will help him mask his inexperience in a way Januzaj can't.

Sterling is becoming a cracking little player, at the moment Sterling seems the better player but he gets play time to show what he can do.
Januzaj IMO has more potential for the long run, he will become the better of the 2 IF he gets the opportunities.

Sterling. At the moment there's no question. That said, both players still have a long way to go in terms of development and a bad injury at the wrong time could have a big impact on how they end up in five/six years time.