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14 Jul 2012 23:09:36
Just asking the eds or anyone do they think we could bid for Ganso ?
Thanks,
ShaunMUFC {Ed007's Note - I would say no Shaun.}
Thanks ed.
Just thought he would be a great signing.
Thanks,
ShaunMUFC
14 Jul 2012 23:02:15
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMWtlyUwX9k
Get you all pumped up.
G.A.G.U.S
Quality video, can't wait for the season to start!
CnM
14 Jul 2012 22:59:27
I like the fact we are now linked with Eriksen. I understand that he had a quiet Euro but I can see him developing under our club. He has the talent and youth that we know works under SAF. I can easily seeing him work with Carrick and Scholes to get experience of the game. Also, I don't see him becoming a financial problem.
He may become a financial problem when he's wanted by most major clubs in Europe.
Couple that with the fact Ajax don't want to sell.
M.D.
M.D. Ajax have admitted they will sell and have already lined his replacement up in Adam Maher. They will sell for £20 million
fearny
14 Jul 2012 22:36:40
For what its worth apparently Thiago Silva has just signed for PSG for 42 million Euro's.
I've mentioned it before and I Still think they will be this summers biggest spenders.
Supasub
14 Jul 2012 22:36:04
Ed, I'd just love to know how you made this site psychic?
Scrolling down the page I saw an advert for retro Sonic the Hedgehog games. I've been playing them since I was 5 (20 years ago). I know the ads depend on what you've been viewing but I swear I haven't looked up the old Sonic games and I definitely have not been looking up professional hair care!
SK {Ed007's Note - It's a new system of advertising where we monitor your brain waves through your cable/satellite/games machine. The hair care advert says that you worry about being very ugly and need to improve your appearance or you might die of virginity ;-)
Without being accused of having sh*te on the end of my nose the ed's sarcasm across the board is just brilliant. Keep it up!
Moog {Ed007's Note - Thanks very much mate, it's just a laugh 99% of the time.}
"Die of virginity" Fantastic
G.A.G.U.S
14 Jul 2012 22:30:56
Realistic or not?
_________DDG
Rafa_Vidic____Smalls_Baines
___Eriksen____Khedira_____
Valencia__Kagawa____Moura
_________Rooney_________
Baines come in then Evra is cover
Eriksen comes in to replace Scholes
Khedira comes in as the Box2Box player so then Ando is sold
Moura/Rodriguez/Gaitan/Muniain in that order are going to replace Nani if sold imo
Baines - 12million
Khedira - 16million
Eriksen - 18million
Moura - 34million only with the sale of Nani
Im not a valuation expert its just what i think they would be available for well in that sort of regoin
If we got eriksen I don't think we would get khedira and vice versa.
Khedira would be a class signing if modric went to Madrid we could get khedira.
ShaunMUFC
I doubt it mate. It would be one central midfielder at the very most.
Sydney!
This team wud be amazing and if nani is sold i think moura will come in but only if nani is sold. erikson is closer to 25mil pounds.
5 new first team players is probably too many to hope for, mate.
M.D.
14 Jul 2012 22:00:40
De Gea | Lindegaard | ?.?.?.?
Rafeal | Jones | Smalling | Ferdinand | Vidic | Evans | Evra | Baines?
Cleverley | Scholes | Carrick | Tunnicliffe | Powell | Anderson/?.?.?.?
Rooney | Welbeck | Hernandez | Kagawa | Giggs | Young | Valencia | Nani/?.?.?.?
I think there could be a keeper coming in as we do not have a third choice as Amos and Johnstone will go out on loan, unless there is a release clause in the Amos loan deal? I think Baines will come in and Nani will be replaced if sold and Anderson will be replaced if sold.
Thoughts?
Banter please Ed, thanks.
Sydney!
I think perhaps Butland in goal, or maybe even a loanee. As for a midfielder you can take your pick from Modric, Moutinho or Eriksen and then I still think either Victor Fischer or Angelo Henriquez will be the striker.
RedDevil19
Is there interest in Strootman though? Sydney you said a long time ago that we were in contact with PSV for someone?
RedDevil19
RD19, the problem is DDG is so talented and so young no one will ever get ahead of him. Then we have Lindegaard who's a top keeper, not mention Amos and Johnstone so who would join with that much competition ahead of them? I am starting to think Amos may have a release clause in his loan agreement. We do like Fischer and obviously Henriquez, but maybe we will wait til last summer to buy one?
Sydney!
I don't see us bringing in a keeper. You rearly need your third choice keeper and as you say we could and most likely do have a call back option on Amos. No point bringing in someone else who will never be more than third choice.
I don't think Baines is gonna come in but i would expect a LB, it's just Baines doesn't ring true as a Sir Alex signing.
As for midfield i'd like to see Anderson and Nani(reluctantly) leave with Fellaini and Gaitan coming in.
Shappy
Maybe he does have a recall clause, its quite possible. I think we will move if we are forced to on Fischer, but in June we had all but signed Henriquez...? Probably lies.
And Shappy, I'd live Gaitan here but would be loathed to lose Nani, for a winger he is one of the best in the world.
RedDevil19
Shappy, I thought the same about Baines. It didn't make sense that we would buy him, even Ed002 thought it was strange, but we are trying to sign him. So the manager clearly wants him. The only way this won't happen is if Everton and United cannot agree a deal. Everything else has been agreed so we hear.
Sydney!
I'm not so sure we even are trying to sign him, there has been nothing from anyone official saying that we are trying to sign him from us or Everton, in fact Moyes has said the opposite, that no has bid for Baines or Fellaini. If the stories are true about how much Everton want for Baines then why play down any interest in him, surely it'd make more sense to try and trigger a bidding war. I've searched high and low for a creditable link with Baines and every news outlet sites "sources close to the club/player" which in nearly every case i've ever seen means "were making up BS", every rumour at this time of year starts with "sources close to the player/club". This is why i don't believe it. Baines just doesn't fit the mould of the kind of players Sir Alex goes for. And at the prices quoted i just can't see either the Glazers realsing the funds for a player with no resale value or marketing value nor can i see Sir Alex agreeing to such a fee for an above average player at best. It just doesn't fit. The only reason i think it's stuck with so many people is the lack of an obvious viable option to Baines.
Personally i think Evra will unfortunately be first choice for most of next season. So i think the type of player we need is a dependable squad player with potential to be more. Someone to be back up for Evra and competition for Fabio the season after. I can't see us spending much money on this area bearing in mind our last two LB's cost a combined total of 11m. i wouldn't expect us to spend much more than 3-5m on a squad LB. I expect to see someone like Bryan Oviedo, someone who wouldn't demand a start but has the potential to be a great player.
Shappy
Shappy
at last someone else taking a common sense approach to transfer rumours and not just believing what they read in the papers
jred
Baines to United is far more than just paper talk lads. Still a long way away from happening mind. Our valuation is some way from Everton's. This has surprised me though.
Sydney!
Without meaning to be rude syd mate but where have you heard that from? There is no quote from anyone connected to.either club anywhere on the internet. There isn't even a surgestion from anyone who matters at either club. Everything seems to becoming from a surgestion from the Daily mail initially, who have an awful reputation of acurate rumour mongering. Very few people would be privvy to any deal being done and everything I see coming from either club seems to surgest that the papers are just making up BS. Baines just doesn't fit the profile of the kind of players we aim to bring into the club.
I seriously think the only reason the Baines.rumour has run on as long as it has is due to no real.alternative LB being said about.
Shappy
I'm with shappy on this the business transfer doesnt make sense
If fabio has gone surly we are looking for an understudy for evra
Jred
Should be baines transfer. Phones a nightmare
Jred
14 Jul 2012 20:59:55
why is everyone saying that we might get rvp. Thing about what are the chances of Arsenal selling their best player to their biggest rival and when was the last time we actually got a player from arsenal. dont get me wrong but man utd have no chance of getting RVP n plus they are much better promising young striker out there in the market that we can get for a much less price than RVP would cost us and also he just had one good season and i think that is because his team mate at arsenal were not good which made him stand out and shine ( the prove is the euros did you see how bad he played when he had world class player in his team)
i think man utd will need a striker but its not RVP. i think we should go for a drogba type of player as we dont have one.
Such a rubbish post.
G.A.G.U.S
Arsenals main rivals are spurs and newcastle.
TRUMORS
14 Jul 2012 20:15:26
It is quite interesting to see i get lots of stick for talking about the most important thing connected to our club rather than discussing fantasy signings. Let me make it clear to you as i did last summer we will not be making a big money signing this summer. We are known around the Premiership boardrooms as No Money.Com. We talk big and like to be connected with major signings but when it comes to it we want to purchase players on long finance deals. Fergie has been told to get high earners like Berbatov off the wage bill and bring in young players on relatively low wages. This has caused major problems with our youth team set up as you can see by the way we have lost 3 major stars of the future. So you lot keep fantasising about players we can't afford and I will keep going on about the cancer that is infesting our club and eating away at its very core. I AM KLOOT
Bored.
Kagawa is a fantastic signing, enjoy the season you are boring us all pal.
GDS
LOL, Berbatov is leaving because he doesn't fit our style of play. If the manager was being forced to offload him then why not play him whilst he was still at the club? You still have to pay Berbatov when he is on the bench. I understand money is tighter than we would all want but you do exaggerate it to the extreme.
Sydney!
Until kagawa actually plays for us and shows if he can compete in the premier league we dont know if hes a good signing or not.he looks great on youtube and looked good in there cup final so hopefully he will settle in
johndenton
Do you think for 1 minute that SAF woulkd hang around if he was told who he could buy or sell get a life bored because you are sure as hell boring me
ARB
GDS you're wasting your time mate. I doubt even a jab from The Fonz could get RFT to stop repeating that particular record. Leave him to the hatin' and people like us will stick to supporting the club and discussing the bright future we have.
TK-Red
I know KLOOT is extremely repetitive, and I find it very hard to like him, but he is right about the Glazers.
G.A.G.U.S
Gagus, what that the Glazers are bad and tight arses? Tell us something we don't know. Is RFT right about us having to sell Berbatov or is it because our manager feels he slows the game down too much, something most of this page has been saying for years.
Sydney!
I agree with Syd ( for a change) berb is on his way out for football reasons
Jred
It doesnt take much to get the Glazer support group of Sydney GDS and TK Max or red whatever to come out and try and quieten me. They don't want you thinking about what is really happening. Remember a European cup final when the leading goal scorer in the Premiership wasn't even on the bench. Don't agree to leave and that is what happens to you. Remember the names sydney GDS and TK -Max for they are bored with talking about the rape of our club they want to distract you all with talk of major signings and blue skies just around the corner. I may be the one saying this but there are thousands just like me or Johndenton who see you lot for what you are. Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees. I AM KLOOT
KLOOT are you serious? Berbatov doesnt suit our style of play atall he slows it down and you say he was the joint top scorer that year and that is for one reason he has a few good games and scores 5 in one and a hat trick in another and youve got his stats totally messed up he is inconsistent and simple he doesnt fit
I believe I was the first on here to point out that despite the goals he scored Berbatov was too slow and tended to turn back to recycle the ball too much, teams pushed up which affected our way of paying. I took fearsome stick for it but I think SAF is selling him for that reason. However the Glazers will certainly not want him on our wage bill, we should cut our losses and get rid ASAP.
The Glazers have ruined our great club financially and we are still to see a top player arrive in the key positions needed. The IPO is interesting and the Andersred blog on it is fascinating. Further to that they are trying to use June 2011 accounts for the IPO rather than 2012 because when ready 2012 could be quite poor numbers given our early exit from the Champions League. The Glazers cannot put their hands in their own pockets so we may have to rely on the IPO or borrow money to buy heavily. My hope is the alleged division over united within the Glazer family means they will sell sooner than later and we can get them out of our club.
Red Man
Why did SAF buy Berb in the first place? We all knew how he plays.
Stanley Irwin
Red Man, Berbatov was always a Marmite player at OT and although most rated him it was clear to see he never fit our style of play. He was okay when we were penning a team in who put ten men behind the ball, but most of the times we were playing the breaking game and he just slowed us down. What we have to remember here is RFT is a massive Berbatov fan so perhaps cannot understand why he is being sold, but most can see why and it has nothing to do with the Glazers wanting him off the wage bill. Although they certainly would want him off the wage bill now as he isn't adding anything to the team sitting on the bench.
Sydney!
I think fergy thought he was buying another cantona
jred
Did RFT genuinely just quote Che Guevara?
APC
Yes APC he did. He makes my point quite nicely wouldnt you say? Viva La Revolution and all that bo***cks. ;)
TK-Red
Shows what APC And TK MAX know about Che. It wasn't him that said that. I AM KLOOT
14 Jul 2012 20:04:27
Jono amd jred it`s all well and good saying pay the money thats needed then slag the owners off for the debt, we pay over the odds and the grows, wether we like it or not the Glazers aren`t going anywhere, or perhaos you want to join Newco Rangers in their League 3
Samster1
Mate I think from the posts, what me and Jred were pointing out is that this season for instance we are needing a CMer or 2 instead of could do with another 1 or 2 so therefore as its totally a sellers market when players are under a few years of contract then we have to pay what is needed to make our targets available if what we deem there value is not enough to the players teams.
I'm not saying do this for every signing but for CM the most important area of the park we have a massive amount of uncertainty cast over our players in that position. Ando, Giggs, Fletch, Clevs, Jones all have differing questions over whether they can do the job for us at the top level leaving Scholes and Carrick (who I am not a massive fan of either) as the only two we can say will perform well enough for us next season with confidence. That is really worrying considering they are 38 and 31 this year. Against any young duo or 3 man midfield they will have circles ran around them as even Swansea proved last year.
I think there are many CMers that can take our quality levels up a notch this year mostly as they naturally play CM unlike Giggs, Ando and Jones. If we ask for instance Newcastle about Cabaye and are told not for sale but we bid our valuation of him of around 15m, they say no again but let it be known they are willing to do business at around 25m. I think Fergie would say 'F**k that' and we go ahead with what we have instead of:
A. Negotiating to pay something up to 22-23m or even the full 25m to get him (over his true valuation but we get our man) or
B. Have a plan B,C and D to at least make sure we get a reinforcement even if the player was not the first choice.
Like our new manager if the first guy we want says no are we just going to go on and get Fergie back or have to look at alternatives?
I don't blame the Glazers for the state of our CM. That lays totally at SAF's feet. He still decides on targets and has an input on valuations so if a deal doesn't match up to his own ideas it just doesn't happen. Thats all fair enough but to come away with absolute s**te value in the market story the same summer Vidal goes for 14m is laughable.
Overall we should have more than one player as an option and we should be willing to pay over the odds to get them exactly like what Jred pointed out happened with Ferdinand and what Madrid HAD to do to get Ronny.
Also if we did do that we would not end up like Rangers mate. They are in the s**t for far worse than paying inflated fees for a few needed players.
Jono
Samster
I would pay over the odds for the player if it was to the benefit of the team
Modric may only be worth 20 mill but the difference he could make to us as a team could be worth 30 mill
I would never suggest paying over the odds all the time but for the right player once in a while if it's needed that's maybe what you have to do.
Some times it works Ferdinand, sometimes it doesn't berb
Jred
Lol should have just put "what jono said"
jred
Jred, I agree that we may have to pay slightly over the odds for a midfielder soon, but we have to be sure that his fee doesn't put pressure on him. I get the feeling Berbatov would have been a better signing had we bought him from Germany for £10m. I think the midfielder signed would need to be able to cope with the pressure of a big fee.
Sydney!
Syd I think we could all see Berba was a confidence player. When playing with it he could be amazing but most of the players we talk about like 30m signings and the like are not really earth moving numbers anymore.
I would like to think any player we target would be confident enough to not bother about price tags. It's only going to be made an issue of if we smash our transfer record by the tune of ten mil or so and stump up 40+m for a player which I really don't think we will do. Us beating our record and paying say 35m for Mods would just be paying the price he knows he has had on his head for 2 summers now so at least he should be ok with it.
Jono
Syd
that does with out saying with any transfer
jred
Jono, the difference is although the press and Spurs have been valuing Mods at £35m, he was still bought for £16m. I think we would be okay with Mods as he seems to have a mature personality, but although Carroll is poor anyway, he has been effected by his £35m price-tag. I think we should go all out for Eriksen or Khedira. Both are top players IMO and able to be signed. We wouldn't need to worry about Khedira going to Spain in the future and we wouldn't need to worry about Eriksen going to Barcelona who have plenty of Eriksen's already in their squad and in La Masia.
Sydney!
14 Jul 2012 19:53:40
So now we are linked with another! player. But I would really like to see Christian Eriksen at United. He's a huge talent and still only 20, so he can fit in to the younger squad. I can see him coming, unlike the other players we have been linked too and I certainly think he'd improve our squad.
14 Jul 2012 19:03:38
Hi guys,
Interesting to note that Sir Alex said there is going to be 1 more signing potentially 2 now that the Euros are over. which means the potential 2nd signing must have been playing in the euros? with Kagawa and Powell bought in for midfield, and Owen gone Berba for sale and Macheda potentially going on loan again, i personally think the potential "2nd signing" is RVP or atleast what Sir Alex is looking for, with the first being Baines!!
Ivan Gazidis said before Euros that we did come in for RVP but were told he aint going anywhere and we backed off. Now that Euros are over and RVP himself has said he wants to leave, it might aswell be RVP who Sir Alex has in mind as the 2nd Signing.
or else with Berba having been put for sale and Owen gone with potentially Macheda goin out on loan why wudnt Sir Alex have powell as the 4th striker? coz with RVP he can also use Rooney in midfield and still let Welbeck and Hernandez progress!!
Thoughts?
It will be Baines and Modric/Moutinho/Khedira/Eriksen and perhaps Moura/Rodriguez if Nani is sold.
Sydney!
I agree completly with Syd, but Gaitan is also a possibility.
RedDevil19
I agree RD19, Gaitan is not out of the question yet.
Sydney!
Just a point on the interview the above post refers too, I saw the interview and it was my impression that it was either player 1 or player 2. He just said he was hoping to bring in 1 maybe 2 sign
14 Jul 2012 17:23:43
let me ask a question to the editor; who would you like to see come in and who ed realistically sees ending up at OT at the end of this window. (PS: answer this as a fan would to a fan)
Rooney's Hairstylist {Ed002's Note - I have no real interest in this sort of guessing fantasy football stuff but I am sure others will play.}
Actually ed i was asking you your opinion based on facts. you're better informed than most general fans are. so i was hoping to get a bit more reasonable answers, i just wanted to know your analysis as a fan, i've been a reader of this site for along time since its beginning, guys like MPez, The Moon Blair Mayne and the seagull have come and gone buts i am still here not as a poster but as a reader, and being a 19 year old from nepal, i quite don't get to know more. So i was hoping you'd help me through. and maybe i'd know who are the real suspects and who have better chances at ending up at OT. Cheers.
Wazza's Stylist {Ed002's Note - I guess I read the question "who would you like" to have shifted from the factual to the bizarre fantasy world occupied by fairies and unicorns that most football fans live in. On a "where are we now" basis I would think Modric moving will impact other moves - perhaps including Moutinho, Khedira and Eriksen.}
Ed002, with your last comment do you mean Khedira could go to Spurs in part-ex for Modric plus cash and the money in that deal will be spent on Moutinho and us missing out on both Mods and Moutinho will lead us to making a move for Eriksen? Or have I misunderstood? Thanks.
Sydney! {Ed002's Note - I suspect it is more likely he will be made available for sale. It is looking like Khedira will become available if Modric completes his move to Real Madrid. If he does, there will be interest from Bayern Munich and possibly from Manchester United and even Spurs if Moutinho is not viable.}
Thanks Ed. I was pretty impressed with Khedira at the Euros. I always had him down as a lump, but he was pretty good on the ball and I think could be a very good alternative to an unlikely Martinez and an unavailable Garcia.
What do folk think about Khedira?
Sydney!
I'd love to see Khedira at United. Him and Carrick would provide a solid base but he's probably not the attacking player that most would like to see come in.
In my mind, a great Fletcher replacement.
M.D.
Syd!
I like him mate. I was hoping we could have done what Madrid did and got him and Ozil but even though to me he always performs well for them when he plays he has a host of others to rotate with as Alonso is one of the certain starters. Now he has his Spanish stint out the way he could come to us and commit for 5 years easy before a German return bekons.
Wouldn't be overly pricey either i think.
Jono
He's better than Garcia and at a similar level to Martinez Syd, i'd love to see him in a United shirt. He'd be an excellent replacement for Fletcher, however I think it will be Granero and Diarra that make way for Modric, not Khedira or Sahin.
RedDevil19
I think Khedira would be a top player for us, Real keep him far too deep to get the best from him. Great engine, passing and reading of the game. I'm not convinced Real will sell him though.
Danny Pughnited
Similar to you Syd! Before the Euros I saw him as the sort of DM that the game doesnt need much anymore but he seemed to show an improvement when in possession and going forward this summer. If he can keep up that kind of performance then he might be worth a look for the right price.
TK-Red
Ed002, is it possible Khedira could be offered to us for a fair price if we back out of the Modric hunt, similar to the Chelsea Higuain/Cavani stunt?
Sydney! {Ed002's Note - I don't see that happening Syd.}
14 Jul 2012 16:28:07
hey guys i was thinking about the midfield situation as we all do and there has been alot of talk since the start of the summer that anderson could or should be sold. i myself dont like him and would like to sell him but thinking about it i dont think we will. heres why, last season we had scholes carrick anderson cleverly fletcher giggs all on the books for cmf, fletcher dusnt look like hell be coming bak and this looks like scholes and giggs last season. that leaves us with cleverly ando and carrick. powell is still not ready to be playin 30/35 games yet never mind changing his posistion from behind the striker to cmf. and i still think we need to buy 1 or 2 more cmfs added on to that. so i dnt think we will be sellin anderson because it will leave us short in that posistion as we already are. anderson is staying for the foreseeable future.
major lazer
I believe Anderson will stay until a new central midfielder is signed or soon to be signed.
Sydney!
I'm quite looking forward to seeing Anderson this season he seems really determined and focused hopefully injuries stay away this season and I reckon he could really make an impact this season
Dwright
14 Jul 2012 15:58:00
I really fear for next season, Chelsea n man city are getting even stronger and arsenal will be top 4 again and Liverpool will be very good under Rodgers he is a really good manager, I can c us slipping out of the top 4.
We can't rely on scholes and giggs any more.
DW
Deluded fan, arsenal are the ones goin backwards, liverpool are nowhere near gd enough, man city aren't stronger yet and chelsea are transitioning. There's no way utd won't be top 2 nxt season even with scholes and giggs!
Get a grip lad, Liverpool will do well to get into the top ten.
Why do we get this nonsense every summer? When will peeps learn.
Sydney!
We havent relied on Giggs for about 6 years ! We can rely on Scholes no matter what because he still oozes the class that maybe a few in history have even at his age ...yes he may not play alot but when he does he is the definition of a world beater !
LOL, Definitely a Liverpool supporter.
CnM
The guy has a point, yes I don't see Liverpool being great but we can't compete like we used to, we are relying on 2 very old players who ain't at the top of their game anymore and only for Fergies brilliance are we still where we are at.
United isn't the force it used to be so deal with it. We need our debt sorted out and 4/5 good players brought in. Seriously I don't know what some of you are thinking or can even compare this team to previous ones.
What is with our fans on here sometimes ! Its always pessimism. There is still a month and a half of the window and we have signed two gems one for now and one for the future unless he steps up. I get so annoyed we are not always going to be number 1 yet some fans expect it as there so single minded and ignorant to the fact that power changes in everything. We will always be there or there abouts as we are a huge club but at the minute sugar daddys are ruining the beloved game
Liverpool are on their way back IMO, if they give Rodgers the time, but it'll take a good few years to get there.
Even the most ambitious of Liverpool's fans should only be hoping for a top 6 finish.
M.D.
We rely on one older player (Scholes), but hopefully not for long. I would say two top players away from having a very strong first XI and squad. For example the manager's first choices of Modric and Hazard would have been enough with a safe Baines.
___________DDG
Rafael__Small___Vidic__Baines
______Carrick___Modric
Valencia___Kagawa___Hazard
__________Rooney
Sydney!
M.D, it's unlikely Liverpool will keep hold of Suarez this summer, certainly not next summer and Carroll is likely to leave too. With Kuyt, Maxi etc leaving to lower the wage bill they are going to have a thin squad and they will have to juggle the Europa games this season too. Borini is no Suarez and Allen & Dempsey will hardly set the world on fire. I think Liverpool are on a major decline and I give BR 12-18 months before he is replaced.
Sydney!
That's why I'm talking in terms of years, Syd.
The only players I rate at Liverpool are Reina and Agger. And I wouldn't be surprised to see a fight for Agger after his performances for Denmark.
We may well see Rodgers sacked in 12-18 months but that'll be too soon IMO.
M.D.
I thought BR was not a big enough name for Liverpool to be able to attract top players. Take Moutinho for example, he wants to join Spurs purely to work with AVB. Who wants to work under BR?
Sydney!
I believe he'll sign better players than they did under Dalglish! It won't be his name, but his brain doing the work.
Anyway, I feel dirty defending them so I'm going to take a shower. Yuck.
M.D.
LOL, look at who he is targeting? Borini, Sigurdsson, Allen etc. These are the players he was attracting to Swansea. These are not the type of players Liverpool would be targeting if they had more funds and a well known manager. I will be amazed if Liverpool finish higher than 6th, I agree with you there mate.
Sydney!
14 Jul 2012 15:39:57
Hey Ed do you think that Christian Eriksen is a central midfielder as i see him like Kagawa playing behind the striker unless he can learn to play deeper and then sits like Modric does and runs the tempo of games {Ed002's Note - Eriksen is reasonably versatile like most youngsters today.}
Eriksen would play where Scholes plays. He would replace Anderson in the squad.
Sydney!
Yes i thought so Syd but i was curious because he can play attacking football aswell but like i said the deep lying play maker ala Scholes/Modric is where he would fit in to our squad and in all honesty i would love him to join more than Modric or Moutinho due to his age and he seems like a level headed youngster that just wants to play football and not compare pay packets which is a rare quality these days
14 Jul 2012 15:22:26
not sure about eriksen tbh, he has potential but he had a shocker at the euros,which i thought he would shine!
Going by that logic torres had a great euros we should shine him
or bendtner
Wow polishing footballers does sound a bit gay doesn't it. lol
Shappy
I think he was a bit worn out by the time the Euros came around. Don't forget that Denmark was in the group of death, hard to shine when you're playing vs the best teams.
CRMike
Eriksen looked tired at the Euro's had a long season at Ajax with a few niggling injuries towards the back end
fearny
14 Jul 2012 15:07:13
is it just me or would anyone else think falcao would be a good signing?
I do but i honestly doubt they would sell ofr under 55-60mil
I love Radamel Falcao but he wouldnt sell for less than 50million and he is 26 so has maybe 4 or 5 years left in him with also a huge wage when we could sign a younger player that has the same potential for around 15million like Lewandowski or something
14 Jul 2012 14:43:40
Lucas Moura will got to united. The daily fail just making some bulls**t up.
14 Jul 2012 14:17:57
ed, could there be any chance of Jack Rodwell signing? fergie seemed keen on him last year.. {Ed002's Note - I suspect he would be too expensive to attracty a buyer. Ongoing fitness would also be a concern.}
14 Jul 2012 14:19:58
I do not understand United's strategy in the market this season. Why bid 33mil euros for Moura? Wouldn't it be better spent on Muniain or Martinez? Muniain plays in a similar position to Moura and is much more versatile, has a better workrate, simply put, imo he is a better player and also proven in Europe. Moura mostly plays as an attacking midfielder or on the right wing and we already have Kagawa and Valencia for those positions. Moura isn't that good on the left from what little i have seen, although he is a quality player no doubt.
We bid such an amount for him and yet we are penny pinching on Modric, doesn't make any sense to me. We NEED a central midfielder this season and maybe a left back is also necessity. But why pursue Baines who we know would be difficult to get? Izaguirre is a very good player and has completely recovered from his injury and would be cheaper.
There is no news on Nani, what is happening there? How can Anderson stay is beyond me. Its time for both the club and the player to move on imo.
On a more positive note, i was told that Real Madrid were hoping that United would get frustrated and pull out of the Modric situation, but United have also been stubborn this time round and SAF is not ready to give up and United are quietly confident of being able to win this one. It appears Real Madrid are not in a position to do a complete cash deal and player exchanges are falling through for various reasons. PSG will obviously be the ones with the best cash offer and United also want to do a full cash deal, something Spurs will obviously prefer. I expect this to drag on even after the start of the season.
REDFAITH
Moura is better than Muniain, faster than Muniain, but more importantly he is more robust than Muniain.
Sydney!
REDFAITH
How do you know we made a bid for Moura?
Because people who have an interest in drumming his price up said so?
Hardly proof in my eyes,
DarkLard08
Completely agree, although moura looks a good player the money should be spent on the cm. we all know this is and lb are our weakest area. I like baines but for the money being quoted?? Surely saf knows our midfield needs work and i dont buy into the idea there is know one out there. tom17
Sydney!
I totally agree I would prefer James Rodriguez and Lucas Moura over Iker Muniain due to the fact he is tiny and i think very over hyped especially around our own fans same as Javi Martinez. I think Lucas would fir as a perfect replacement for Nani if we sold him as Moura can play anywhere like Nani but i think he is overall better in all the positions where as Nani is better on the right but shabby at best on the left and cant really play central. I had an epiphany a few months back and was thinking maybe if Berba left and Welbeck and Hernandez were off form or injured maybe Nani could be the perfect striker he is very quick and direct and can finish i just think outwide he is so poor at crossing its horrible but playing up top or in the number 10 could be different
Why the hell would we pay in euros for Lucas when neither of the teams involved use the euro? Does that not make people think its totally made up?
GDS {Ed002's Note - The South American sides have been dealing in euros recently due to (a) much of their business being done in the Eurozone and (b) issues with the US$ which was used traditionally as the currency of choice - and still is for many transactions.}
14 Jul 2012 19:15:26
DarkLard08, I think Ed002 confirmed it?
REDFAITH
Ed002, thanks for this, You learn something new every day!
GDS
14 Jul 2012 13:29:48
i am getting sick of the people that are putting cleverley in the category 'injury prone'
he is not pulling hamstrings or calfs, it has been challenges that have injured him, some bad ones too.
anderson is injury prone so everyone is saying get rid off him, who on this planet wanted to sign van persie before last year? no one ? too injury prone?
MF
Yes but I would rather be reading about him on the back page rather than in the gossip pages with his WAG. I AM KLOOT
14 Jul 2012 13:04:19
There will be no more signings, man utd wil not pay 18-20m for baines and they will not get mountinho, modric or lucas
it was always going to be difficult to get 1 or 2 of these players mainly due to clubs always wanting more money when its man utd trying to buy them
i for one am really happy with the squad that we have with the 2 new boys powell & kagawa, we also have a fully fit vidic back, cleverley is back, and so is anderson who i still rate. and i am very confident this squad can go on to win the EPL this coming season
i was hoping as i am sure all united fans were that we would go and spend spend spend and get these players but while the glazers are still in charge that will not happen
UNITEDFORLIFE75
There will be 1-2 more signings, possibly three if Nani is sold.
Sydney!
Nice to see a down to earth, realistic United fan. Everton have no real reason to sell Baines. You can't bid £10m and expect them to bend over backwards to give you a cheapy. To all the posters who state "Everton are desperate for money" or "poor club", be more concerned about your own teams money problems rather than slating Everton. Baines still has 3 years left on his current contract and Everton have no real reason to sell. So unless there's a concrete development take all stories with a pinch of salt.
Everton need to raise around £10m a season through player sales just to ease their financial issues. That is a very good reason to sell Baines. Selling Baines means they can keep Fellaini.
Sydney!
Everton £45m in debt. Manchester United £400m+ in debt. Logic?
Everton's turnover £79m. Manchester United turnover £331m. Hows that for logic?
Sydney!
With each season ticket costing £700-900 forcing supporters out of watching their own team due to the economy in England? I think you'd rather feed your family than watch a football team. That is, unless your priorities are a joke too?
I think many can afford the £700-£900, but it's the traveling costs, beer money and transport on top of that which is a struggle.
Sydney!
Exactly Syd each game would cost about 40 pound plus due to petrol or train etc then beer and food add that to the 700-900pound season ticket its mental
If I still lived in Salford I would attend every home game and most away games. I would even attend the reserve games and some academy games, but I live 400 miles away now and do not drive so it's difficult. I used to go a few times a year until my missus kept popping out babies. I have told the missus that we are moving to Salford when the kids are older, but she isn't impressed. I still have 13 years to work on her yet mind.
Sydney!
Haha keep dreaming then Syd!
Yeah, I don't think the missus will budge either mate ;)
Sydney!
14 Jul 2012 12:41:57
Dear all this isn't a rumour but solid fact. We will not be buying anyone else. All the guff from Fergie and Gill about two new signings is just to encourage people to buy their season tickets. Last year 4,000 season tickets weren't sold due to the protest against the Glazers, this year that is likely to be doubled if not trebled. We can't compete financially due to debt repayments and the money the Glazers are leeching out of the club.
All the season tickets were sold last season, just not all before the season kicked off. I think there will be two more signings, certainly one more signing as we are a left back down for starters Einstein.
Sydney!
Are we truly a left back down? Or are you just following the Hype
Season Tickets for the 2012/13 season are still available, Sydney!, at least as of yesterday.
Rudderpost.
Rudders, we are talking about last season.
No name, we are actually two LB's down and our only senior LB is Evra. So what happens when Evra gets injured?
Sydney!
Syd not all season tickets were sold the club were still offering deals with six home games left and stating if you bought you were gaurateed to be offered a renewal for this season i know cos i got two for my son and his mate
Onecut
Onecut, fair play but United sold 51,800 season tickets out of 54,000 before the deadline in June. That is some amount when you consider that's Newcastle's entire capacity. I am sure they sold 90% if not more of the remaining 2,200 season tickets over the course of the season. 2,200 tickets is probably around £1.4m in revenue, not sure the Glazers would have been too worried about that.
Sydney!
My bad Sydney!, apologies.
Rudderpost
I am a season ticket holder and my nephew recently tried to buy 2 tickets but couldn't because the club couldn't get him 2 seats together. This suggests to me that sales must be going well for 12/13.
Even though ive renewed i got a text from the ticket office this week asking if i wanted anymore season tickets
johndenton
14 Jul 2012 11:36:01
We are in talks with christian eriksen..watch this space
14 Jul 2012 11:22:05
The real Everton target isn't Leighton Baines, but their young midfielder Ross Barkley who United were linked with before Christmas last year.
14 Jul 2012 10:52:13
random question but does anyone know when the dutch or french league fixtures come out or if they are out already? {Ed002's Note - They are out already.}
14 Jul 2012 09:43:19
Just a thought... Surely if the reports of Utd sending out a delegation to Brazil are true, they wouldnt have done it cold. By that I mean encouragment from the brazilian team. So the reports of rejected bid and apparent refusal to sell, might just be a formality.
Opinions??
Sambo
14 Jul 2012 09:41:22
Juvenal Juvencio (Sao Paulo President) has confirmed that Manchester United have made a £25 million bid for Lucas Moura. But it has been rejected & he won't be sold. He has said '‘It is a risk not selling Lucas, but we are going to take it"""
dear unnamed sir
so yet another player we "bid" for
and "competed" for
right?
using our usual tactic of bidding a fraction of what the selling club and other buying clubs bid for
well done...
and now it's time to call the player a mercenary and not wanting to join our team for football reasons
and a team with tradition
ngiak is having a laugh... again
more wool over the eyes
gan
Gan
EXACTLY what I came on here to say. If rumours are true, we bid less than the team before us did.
So, another 'token' bid we knew would not succeed.
RED_SKY
Gan
I can understand some fans worries about money and our failure to land that quality CM we have craved for years. I can even kind of see why sceptics would believe we've been making 'token' bids to keep fans happy
But now it's happened SO many times (according to the media) it's just as likely fans would get annoyed by our inability to land these players than if we weren't supposedely in for them at all?
I mean, do the powers that be really think it will keep fans happy knowing that we've gone in for Benzema, Ozil, Sanchez, Nasri, Sneijder, Hazard, Modric, Moura etc. and failed in EVERY bid?! Surely that is just as bad PR as not even going in for them and saying we're sticking to youth and unearthed gems?
Also, if these 'token' bids are true then surely it takes up some of our resourcs to put these offers together - the legal/contractual side of things. Are we really to believe that we would tie up our resources into making silly bids time and time again during the most busy period for transfer activity, just to get fans on side? Seems a little far fetched when you think of it like that IMO
Final point - if money has been so tight that SAF's hands have been tied regarding signing a top CM....then why did he spend £19m on a keeper and £16m on Jones when we could have made do with O'Shea and got a good keeper for under £10m. That's around £20m we could have saved there and put towards a £30m CM if we really had to do it that way?
Gav
I do not think they are token bids at all, perhaps they are wishful thinking bids, but not token. Why would United be talking/bidding for numerous players at the same time? Surely they would drag sagas on for weeks then jump to another player and drag that saga out for a few weeks? We seem to be working very hard at the moment and it's all happening at the same time.
Sydney!
Gav, the club obviously needs to spend some degree of money. But we also need to remember that the Ronaldo money has disappeared into debt repayments so the money spent last year needs to be viewed in that context too. What we can say about De Gea and Jones is that they are on relatively low wages, so although the initial transfer fee, which is more than likely paid off over a number of years, is high, the wages De Gea and Jones are on is a less than those of VDS, O' Shea and Brown.
The club have consistently stated that they are unable to compete at the top end of the market, i.e. on the same level as City, Chelsea, Barca, Madrid. Yet all the major talents we bid for place us in direct competition with these clubs. Clearly this strategy isn't working because we have failed to land a single one. Therefore, if the club was serious about substantial investment in the team they should accept this and move on to other targets.
Every year the club makes big moves for players they can't possibly out-bid and out-pay the competition for. Every year they don't get these players. And every year the money supposedly available for these stars is plugged into the Glazer debt instead. How many years of failing to rebuild our clearly inadequate midfield will it take for people to realise that the Glazers are simply not committed to investing the club's own money back into the club?
Danny Pughnited
I know, why don't we not put in a bid at all, but just tell everybody we did! At least then we can say we tried. Might even save a couple of bob on phone calls!
For crying out loud!!
MANCRED 99
Danny, was VDS's, JOS's & Brown's wages more than Young's, DDG's & Jones'?
Sydney!
If you add Hargreaves, Scholes and Obertan to that list I think you'll find that wages were reduced. Even Scholes's return came after we unloaded Gibson.
Danny Pughnited
Danny, Obertan was on a pittance and Gibson wasn't on much more, I do believe Hargreaves' salary was being paid by his insurance company, certain the majority of his salary. Then you have to consider the amount that was put aside for Nasri/Sneijder. Then there's Smalling's & Hernandez' new contracts. Both had four years left on their old contracts before the club rewarded them with new deals. Bringing in Jones, DDG & Young was not a cost-cutting exercise.
Sydney!
Danny,
I see what you're saying about wages but I stand by my point; if SAF was that desperate for a CM but hasn't had the funds he could have made do without Jones and Young (combined £33m and Young on a good wage) and could even make do with Evra and Fabio this season (saving the £12-15m we'd have to part with for Baines). If he'd have signed a keeper for £10m rather than DDG too that's a hypothetical £55 odd million he could have saved towards a CM if he was desperate. There's plenty there for a top CM plus his first 2/3 years wages
I'm glad SAF didn't do all that but it shows that there is always room to manouvre
My original reply to the OP was about 'token' bids and how I fail to believe our club would go to the effort of doing this on so many occasions just to excite the fans. I do think we can afford say £25-30m and a decent wage to get a player but that's just my opinion
With regards our wage bill, I may be wrong but I thought it had increased since the days of Hargo, JOS, Brown, Neville and VDS due to a combination of incoming players' wages and renegotiations with existing players?
Gav
14 Jul 2012 18:43:01
Danny.
1.Overall wages at Manchester United increased by a whopping 11% from last season.
2. De Gea, Jones, Young transfers were paid off in cash and are not to be paid over a number of years.
REDFAITH
14 Jul 2012 05:06:17
There is only 4 or 5 players play in mid field. already 2 position are fixed with valencia and young or nani. then for cm's we have scholes, cleves, ando, giggs, tunicliff, petrucci, powell, carrick, kagawa, fletcher (doubt), u people think this is not enough to win PL and CL. thenu wont be satisfied with whom ever comes to utd.
Think about it cleverley andersson injury prone carrick hot n cold scholes giggs 37 38 fletcher battling an illness thats hard to shift
petruuci tunnicliffe talented but never played in the pl or cl kagawa new to english football powell come from league 2
Any injuries before last season for Tom Cleverley?
M.D.
Why cleverly is injury prone anyway even if anderson is injured we have enough back up. yes scholes and giggs are aged but yet they have a season left. at the 2013-14 season we will have our academy players ready to get into first team. so no worries if modric, moutinho or who ever didn't sign.
14 Jul 2012 04:13:01
I don't believe a left back is needed. If Evra doesn't cut the mustard Johnny Evans can play there and showed last season how much he has come on. With Vidic nearing fitness Evans wont be needed CB. Phil Jones should play DM and believe with a fit Cleverly and Kagawa we have a solid platform in CM. I think we need a RB and a Striker. Welbeck doesnt do it for me at all and Berb is useless which only leaves Rooney and Chico. We could do with some height in the attacking front line. We should sign a cemented RB as Phil Jones is not suited to that position and Rafa is too erratic.
Rafael is a good player at the minute some seem to forget hes still drastically young because hes been around a while and he will be one of the best right backs on the planet in a few years along with kyle walker and a few others
J Evans showed he is a good CB last season, yes. But a modern day FB is nothing like playing CB - they need to bomb upfield and have skill and composure in the attacking 3rd. I'd rather see Evans used at CB
Gav
Evans was tested at LB early on last season and then Fryers was promoted. So clearly Evans wasn't good enough and his main problem was getting forward. We will be buying a LB this summer simply because we need one.
Sydney!
It's good to have cover but there's no chance of us relying on him to play there more than a few times a season (when desperate!).
On a personal level, his good form last year means he'll be expecting himself to cement his first team spot at CB. It'll be a good battle between himself and Smalling, who has also progressed a lot and is probably most people's first choice.
So a left back must surely come in before the season kicks off. I'm not saying it'll be Baines though, but I'd be happy if it was.
M.D.
14 Jul 2012 01:45:07
Why is it everyone is happy to slate Evra for a few bad games? He has played the most games for us season after season for the past few years and because his levels has dropped slightly everyone is happy to call him rubbish and say he finsihed! Carrick is another one who people are happy to slag off and say he's not good enough. Keeping the ball is just not good enough for some people! All we're missing at the moment is a player who can go past 1 or 2 people and either create something or score themselves. It doesn't have to be a centre mid as it actualy doesn't matter where he plays as long as he makes things happen. The BS from the press links us with most players so you can't believe them. But Fergie rarely gets it wrong and i'm sure we'll be there or there abouts again next season. If City lost Company for the season like we lost Vidic do you think they'd be Champions!? If the 4 games he missed are anything to go by then probably not! Fact is we have a very good side which is only 1 player short of being a great one. Kagawa looks a great singing and with Rooney being pushed further forward with Kagawa in behind we already look to carry more of a goal threat. Which ever way Fergie goes we're still the team to beat as our managers record shows
K stand Red
Slightly? He's been poor for 2 years.
GDS
No1 has slated him for a few bad games, people are dissapointed he still starts week in week out when he has had 2 bad seasons. That's more to the point
Look at him during his peak. Then look at him during 90% of last season and you will see what I mean. He is still effective at getting forward but his final ball has never been great. His failure to track back, be in position and get close to tackling players has been clear for a while, not just a few games
Gav
I'll accept he has been fantastic for the last 2 years but to say he's been poor for the whole of the 2 years is over the top. I don't really have a problem buying a replacemennt for Evra as he's 31 and hasn't been up to his usual standard for a while but to replace him with 27 year old, who in my opinion is not better, would be wrong
13 Jul 2012 23:35:38
Apparently people keep posting we have bid 33 million for Brazilian wonder kid lucas moura . Could be a hoax ! Will keep ya posted . I for one would love to think these posts are real but I'm holding out for evidence. SHANDY !
The m1rror ran a story the a united delegation had flew to brazil, lance a newspaper in brazil ran a copy of the story, a few days later they ran the "exclusive" again but added that the they had made an offer but were waiting for an answer.
is it paper talk or is it true , who know but it would be an exciting signing
jred
My money's on it being Paper Talk. As was Moutinho. Of course we'll be interested in big talents but it doesn't mean we're out making offers or that it's going further than an enquiry.
M.D.
13 Jul 2012 23:27:47
I really agree with WestStandUpper, and like him I've wanted to post for a while so I thought I would
... It seems everyone thinks Fergie is keeping his cards very close to his chest, but it's probable that Fergie doesn't have many cards as he's not being given many financial flexibility by the Glazers.
To be honest, signing Baines for that price would be terrible business. It seems since Liverpool paid a stupendous figure of 35mil for Carroll, English clubs have decided their players (especially English players) are worth more than they really should be.
I think Fergie missed a real trick not pushing for Jordi Alba. Although he may have really wanted to move to Barca, Valencia wouldn't have turned down a good offer if it was on the table, especially seeing as he would have still been going to one of the biggest clubs in the world. Younger and cheaper than Baines and would have had an exceptional resell value, never mind the ability he would have brought to a somewhat weakened defence.
I believe Moura and modric are going to be very unlikely signings, one for money and where they are wanting to go.
However, I believe the person united should be pushing for a lot more is Moutinho. Watching him on Youtube ,the Euros and indeed for Porto, his vision and link up play is immense and his ability in the tackle is great aswell... just what united need really. If United showed real intent I don't know why Moutinho would choose a club with no CL just because of AVB... You'd expect him to choose a world class club where he will win trophies.
Moutinho, Alba and Kagawa would have taken Uniteds squad to another level. Unfortunately Alba was destined to be a red but here's hoping we get Mountinho, but in all honesty, hes probably unlikely aswell.
It's a pity United aren't attracting the stars they should be but Fergie needs to sign someone to strengthen the centre midfield or City will run away will it this year. But he's not stupid so lets see what happens.
JK {Ed007's Note - Welcome aboard the Love Boat JK.}
My word...Moutinho, Alba and Kagawa would have been unbelievable! Shame it didn't happen, but Alba will be fantastic at Barca...the kids some fantastic years a head of him! I think SAF's love of Modric may have hindered us getting Moutinho, although I would be surprised that if he was given an offer from Spurs and an offer from us, that he would choose Spurs. Surely he wants to play in Europe? But of course we don't know what's going on behind closed doors! The Sneijder rumors have gone quiet lately, someone had to bring him back into the equation...I may as well do it lol! He'd be quality at United, and just enough seasons left in him so our young guys can get better! I reckon Inter would sell, and I reckon he'd go too (offer of CL football has to be an incentive). The only issue would be price and wages...from what I understand, he gets quite a high wage at Inter!
Andy
Alba would of never joined Utd. At Barcelona he is going to challenge for European and domestic honours every year, and he'll be doing it with half of his I international teammates.
All last season it's been written that he was signing. I get annoyed with people saying we "missed out" on players when it wasn't even a possibility. Some people need to accept that we're not everyone's first choice!
Jk
great post couldnt agree more
jred
13 Jul 2012 23:27:36
Hey all,
Sorry been so quiet recently, work has been hectic.
I have 2 things, echoing through to my ears in Surrey.
Firstly Modric is looking unlikely by Lucas is looking promising. We have reps in Brazil as we speak but it's all up to the player now. Lucas is impressed with how we managed the Da Silva twins transfer and sees this as a promising move for his family. Although to be honest I am not completely convinced by the player, looks a bit too selfish to me.
Lastly, Kagawa is going to set the league alight next season, he is going to be a huge player for us and I hope only is for many years to come.
PJ
13 Jul 2012 23:21:41
I can't understand why we treat Berbatov the way we do.
Anyone remember that hat trick against Liver-poo?
He's got years left in him. Not quick but Sheringham head quick. On his day he can be brilliant, he's just one of those players who needs to be loved.
If we could offer him a lower contract for 2 seasons like Rio then coach tekkers & skill to the young un's in training.
Petrucci, Møller Delhi, Peirera & W.Keane who have got good tekkers could learn a lot from him in the next two seasons.
If I was at training with United it would be Scholes & Berbatov I'd want to learn off.
Yeah I most certainly wouldn't want to spend time with Rooney...or Vidic...or Evra..or Rio...or Giggsy. The problem with Berbatov is, yes he is fantastic on his day, but he only gets about two days a season and that just isn't up to the mark for United...or any of the top 5/6 teams in the PL. I know Nani is inconsistent but Berbatov is in another league...and he hopefully will be soon!
Andy
No one questions berbaflops ability but his drive, ambition, motivation, whatever you want to call it, he does not play for the team but himself,
get rid!
Cban
Theres no doubting Berba's abilities but he doesn't really suit our pacey, fluid, counter attacking style. Also, there is nothing more infuriating than watching him amble around the pitch like a feather in the wind - when we're desperate for a goal. If we can get £6m and his wages off the books I would. Having said that, if he does end up staying because of a lack of offers he is certainly an option to use later on in a game or if Rooney gets injured. His experience and technical ability shouldn't be overlooked if he stays
Gav
13 Jul 2012 23:23:34
Not really united related , was thinking though, with David Beckham missing out on the Olympic team and also saying would not light the torch that in the next year he gets made Sir David Beckham, wonder what odds you would get,
DonDarko {Ed007's Note - Do you really sit and think about stuff like that?}
Anyone else find all the sympathy for Beckham not getting in the Olympic squad a little patronising? And now Coe coming out saying he will 'find an important role' for him. It's a bit like he's the most popular boy in school but wasn't good enough to get picked for any of the events on school-sports day by the PE teacher, so the headmaster put him in charge of filling water bottles or something!
Gav
13 Jul 2012 23:03:40
We need two more quality players
Red Man
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Who do you want Red Man?
G.A.G.U.S
GAGUS
I have long said these two players
1. Javi Martinez , tall elegant central midfield player who can fill in at the back as well. Cast your mind back to the key Everton home game when Felliani bullied Evans , a player like Martinez would have made a difference. He can also pass.
2. Iker Muniain , looks like a young Iniesta , talent and hard worker, looks class to me. He could play that same role coming in from the left. Yes I would sell Nani to make room.
Those two roles are key ones for me. A striker would be important if SAF intends to play with two up front as we only have three. Higuain or Benzema or possibly RVP if that was the case.
The left back is interesting, Evra was caught out of position too often but we have Tyler Blackett coming through and we need to see if he can do it otherwise he will be lost to us like Fryers. I am watching the Izaguerre situation because now Rangers are in Div 3 there is likely to be a financial impact on Celtic which could see them have to sell a player or two, possibly quickly if the TV deal changes.
So in summary, Martinez, Muniain (possibly Lucas), sell Anderson and Nani. In an ideal world I would like a striker if we do that RVP and a left back Izaguerre. I don't expect that to happen but I want domination of world football by my club. But then I live in Glazers United world.
Red Man
13 Jul 2012 23:01:03
i reckon we'll get baines and gaitan and thats it. gaitan deal was done a while ago, he's just waiting to see if he gets a better deal. paperworks being done for baines
Gaitan would be a good signing but could Gaitan, Nani, Valencia and Young all play enough games to be happy?
It would probably mean Nani moving on, and I'm sure that we'd be hearing whispers of a transfer if that were the case? Unless we would keep them all?
M.D.
13 Jul 2012 22:46:12
Why do people still wont willems? he had an awful euro 2012 and is soo young and unproven. fans just hear other people throw out a name and say ooh he must be good. We'll sign baines before we go on tour. Then 1 more signing but NO ONE MAJOR.
13 Jul 2012 22:37:25
i've just read the Gaitan player review on the profiles page and Ed022 hits the nail on the head when talking about his ability. All im saying is have a read of the profile if you haven't seen him play much and you will see why myself and a few others rate him so highly. i doubt we'll sign him but nonetheless it made a great read about a potentially great footballer. The Moon.
Yeah, definitely worth a read people.
M.D.
Well I know a chap who used to go to school with one of the youth team coaches at Benfica. He said that we are very much interested in signing Gaitan, the issue seems to be that United are waiting for something(possibly Nani sale or something). What is making things differcult is are will we won't make a bid attitude as it has unsettled him and Benfica want Anderson, apparently we've offered him on loan(which doesn't make sense to me) but they want him on a perminant deal. We could well end up signing him but the feeling is.it would be a.replacement for Nani. I dunno whether i'd rather keep Nani or get Gaitan to be honest. But if we were to get Gaitan Fellaini ane say Izaguirre or Oviedo then I think that would be an awesome summer.
Shappy
Nani's best position is on the right of front 3...... him on the right of rooney and gaitan on the left would be very good.
also looking at the profiles of martinez & m'vila can not understand why we are not in for one of them.. they would make our midfield.....
oxred
------------Rooney/Welbeck-----------
Young/Gaitan---Kagawa---Valencia/Nani
--------Carrick----Scholes/Clev--------
Maybe?
Would Nani and Valencia be happy battling it out for a first team spot?
M.D.