Manchester United Banter Archive July 14 2015

 

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14 Jul 2015 22:59:03
So we have di Maria off to PSG and Gaitan and Cavani coming in, just Otamandi left and off we go. Roll on the start of the Premier league.

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15 Jul 2015 00:41:54
I don't think we should waste money on gaitan when we have januziaj he could easily take the place of di maria let's hope LVG gives him and Wilson proper game time on tour they might just save us 70 million

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15 Jul 2015 08:20:21
Left Att mid is where depay plays so won't need another lw really already AJ AY and JM to play there if required to do so.

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14 Jul 2015 22:46:58
Am I right in assuming that everyone would have seen " The Wolf of Old Trafford " by now? If not then why wait.

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14 Jul 2015 22:57:48
Do you mean the magical signing irwin and mcrerand were banging on about?

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15 Jul 2015 03:00:17
It's on Twitter, someone has edited the wolf of Wall Street trailer to include ed and LVG. Tis quite a good watch to be fair bravo to the creator.

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14 Jul 2015 22:35:29
No offence but why is everyone ficsated on ed002 posting on here?

All the other eds provide enough information regarding players were interested in and if people search on other sites you can find the players were interested in anyway

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14 Jul 2015 23:39:20
Got to agree with this mate and some of the brown nosing to Ed002 is so embarrassing. If he/she doesn't want to take part on our page just leave it go.

This page should be more about die hard united fans engaging in banter or chat and exchanging views than anything else. Obviously we won't all agree on certain things but that's life.

What I'm getting at is, whoever wants to come on the page whether it be all the Ed's or posters will do just that we shouldn't become desperate. Personally I think it's a great site and there's plenty more to it than just one isolated issue. I've been coming on here for a couple of years or longer now and maybe should post more often.

Very excited for the new season and really feel we are a player or two away from achieving something quite special. If the two correct players are signed I have us down as favourites for the title but just my opinion and I'm obviously a biased man.

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15 Jul 2015 08:29:11
good post my man

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14 Jul 2015 22:26:01
Some right knob heads on this site recenty, how about we stop sending abuse to the eds, stop sending abuse to each other and start talking about football again, as this is a football discussion site after all.
Thanks to all the eds for putting up with the minority and thanks to the regular posters for making this site great.

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14 Jul 2015 22:58:18
Well said mate

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14 Jul 2015 23:14:16
There you go everyone, RedAndy94 wants to keep minorities off the board. Well you enjoy your pure red internet space Andy and everyone else will hold hands and fart rainbows.

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15 Jul 2015 01:12:50
Danny,

Brilliant mate, laughed out loud.

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14 Jul 2015 22:24:12
Is there anything in these lewandowski/ Muller rumours??

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14 Jul 2015 23:02:51
Not a wiener.

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14 Jul 2015 21:48:51
Don't think a new striker is needed if LVG does get one it would need to be a player that can also play in the wide areas also as Rooney is his captain and will play most of the games this may be why cavani is getting linked as he fits that criteria.

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14 Jul 2015 21:34:25
Hi all, just for the sake of conversation I bring up the following.

We have made 4 very good signings which strengthens starting 11 greatly.
Outlay on this was 75mil, now if psg gives us 60mil for angel that will balance transfer spent to 15mil, we may see a more fireworks yet.just sit back and enjoy the rest of the window.

Good to see how many new posters has joined the site in the last3 years

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14 Jul 2015 21:39:30
No way will PSG give us £60m for ADM

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14 Jul 2015 21:44:19
Evans, ADM * Javier - that could be £70m extra as well, Rafael another £10m.

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14 Jul 2015 21:44:26
If psg can give 50 for david luiz thrn we should expect 60m for adm

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14 Jul 2015 22:09:30
Why not expect PSG to pay 60 for ADM we don't want to sell and they want him their free of FFP so they should pay full price

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14 Jul 2015 23:24:50
I think ADM will be sold at his own request, it is a pity if he wants out but if he wants to stay he will have to perform at better than he did last season. He has a better foundation behind him that's for sure so that will help. With depay on the opposite side he may well get more space.

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14 Jul 2015 20:56:12
A few months back there was talk of lvg thinking of adnan as a striker. Rumours are he's bulked up over the summer I wonder if he'll stay as second or third choice striker. Maybe him and mf will be the new teddy and ole. Then lvg can concentrate on a cb and maybe a marquee muller/bale if adm goes

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14 Jul 2015 21:20:39
It took me a good minute to realize that mf is fellaini.
And i feel that januzaj's best position is the number 10

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14 Jul 2015 21:21:53
Finally another milkman. Sydney felt so lonely on this site that he now posts very rarely.
And I for 1 completely agree that we should give Adnan and Wilson chance at the striker position more often. No Fellaini.

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14 Jul 2015 21:55:26
I wonder what syd's up to these days, I remember a time when his insight was as saught after as the ED's.

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14 Jul 2015 20:20:42
Do we stI'll hold aninterest in Marquinos of psg. Just wondering if he may come up In discussions over ADM.
I know he only signed new contract in Jan but that does not mean much!

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14 Jul 2015 20:02:18
The links to lewondowski and the fact his agent says an offer of £35mill or more could get him makes me very excited ! He obviously wouldn't come knowing we were wanting to play with one striker so the only way I think we'll get a huge name up front, and lewondowski is imo one of the best striker in the world, is if van Gaal plays 3-5-2 or 4-4-2 with a diamond.

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14 Jul 2015 20:13:32
Or Rooney is being pushed out, LVG has already pushed out his pal RVP.

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14 Jul 2015 20:17:37
Perhaps LVG is the ultimate pragmatist. If he manages to get Lewandowski then perhaps we play 2 up front or perhaps Rooney has to fight for his place. Now that would be novel.

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14 Jul 2015 20:36:32
Wha the legend that is Rooney? Never!

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14 Jul 2015 20:46:34
Nothing wrong with fighting for places, sure rooney would relish the battle but if lewondowski comes, he plays. He's too good!

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14 Jul 2015 20:55:38
Wayne doesn't relish competition, he is the chosen one and is the first name on the team sheet. Wash your mouth out

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14 Jul 2015 21:13:09
King Rooney must never be dropped, ever, not even when he kicks out or gives the ball away or fails to control something a 10 year old could. It's cz he's the ledge of OT and captain, the undroppable one. Leave him out at your peril cz he will demand a pay rise ha.

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14 Jul 2015 23:01:22
AJH knows rooney everyone! Have you not been a fan for long? Decent united fans are very appreciative of rooney and what he's done for us and will do next year

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15 Jul 2015 01:14:05
Pep,

Think old tony might have been messing about.

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14 Jul 2015 19:53:50
I must say it's really exciting to be agreeing with Beast about the lack of a pressing need for another striker if we are playing to LVG's system. My sincere hope, and his no doubt, is that this season, with the purchase of an appropriate midfield, he will have no need to vent about how we're a dull mediocre outfit and the manager is destroying the whole United ethic.

Question for you all:

How many goals do you think we'll score and concede in the upcoming season?

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14 Jul 2015 20:27:18
I think we'll score 100 and concede 30 and have a goal difference of 44 ;)

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14 Jul 2015 20:29:16
I think we will score 83 goals over the league season, with us conceding 40 if we keep the same defence and 28 if we get Otamendi or Ramos, probably more conceded when we lose De Gea.

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14 Jul 2015 20:38:09
Interestingly I believe with or without new cb signings we will concede a similar amount of goals, however with a cb signing (one who is composed and can distribute the ball better) I feel we would score more if it was played forward quicker

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14 Jul 2015 21:18:16
I'm going for 76 and 34 whether or not we get another CB.

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14 Jul 2015 21:43:15
Shawthing - I hope above hope that I can get back to praising us on a regular basis. He has his men now, so the rhythm should be there and maybe we can start enjoying performances rather than suffering them (players and fans alike, I want to see our boys play with a smile, not worry).

I'm going for score 70 and concede just 20. (if we sign a leader at the back which I think we will).

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14 Jul 2015 21:58:24
We will score 101 and concede 28 so it is written so it shall be done.

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15 Jul 2015 09:15:08
i'd guess at 114 for and 38 against, we will win every game 3-1.

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15 Jul 2015 11:35:03
Does Discount Dave get 26% off normally? Or am i getting confused between margins and markups.

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14 Jul 2015 19:35:10
Its a funny game football. I am sat here excited for the season to start already so I can see our new players bossing games and blowing teams away.

I was sat here around the same time last season seeing we had signed three left backs and a sub keeper thinking what the hell is going on. Then we signed ADM and Falcao and I felt like a kid at Christmas. These were players that made my mouth water and all of a sudden it was the greatest window ever!

Fast forward to the end of the season and my mouth had dried up. These great players we had signed were ruined in most peoples eyes and in mine. Two of the best players in recent years had been upstaged by our 3 left backs and even they failed to appear in a lot of the games due to injury.

Where I am going with this? Well I am going to stick my neck out now and say we, in my eyes, may just have signed three of the best signings we could possibly have made for the team and a RB who has been highly rated though I have not seen him. Otamendi would top it off.

Maybe we will sign Cavani but if we do, it will be him that all eyes are on and he will be the one who has to succeed. Doing this will allow Depay, the SCH's and Darmian to get on with their games and become solid members of the team.

My hat is tipped to Mr Woodward and how he has evolved in his role and also to LVG for selecting transfers that will make us stronger as a team. 1st or 2nd for me next year and a good run in the cups with be the expected standard.

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14 Jul 2015 18:53:52
Am I right in thinking a club needs to give permission for another club to approach one of its players to hold talks?

If so, has any club been given permission to hold talks with ADM?
Thanks

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14 Jul 2015 17:59:35
Regardless of whether some fans are deemed as "dreamers" for wanting or hoping Bale joins utd. One things for sure ADM is looking likely for the exit door. But I'm not going to get on the backs of all the fans that wish for him or expect him to stay.
Fact is his form never picked back up after the burglary/break in and apparently his family want out of the UK.


I will be amazed if adm is still a utd player come September.

Oh and generally speaking. What player openly comes out and says they want to leave?

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14 Jul 2015 18:19:17
Sterling

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14 Jul 2015 18:33:09
So the Sterling fiasco is 'normal' procedure?

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14 Jul 2015 18:37:46
Schweiny & Schneiderlin

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14 Jul 2015 19:06:35
I can see him leaving as part of a deal for Cavani. Cavani, Rooney and Depay as a front 3. Although I would like to see someone like Reus or Griezmann come in to replace him. I'd be most excited about Reus.

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14 Jul 2015 19:14:22
If he is still here in September some people on here are going to look very silly

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14 Jul 2015 19:33:47
So cavani would leave psg because he wants to play centrally and come to united and play on the wings.

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14 Jul 2015 19:58:43
Exactly imightbesomeone

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14 Jul 2015 16:40:05
Roll on the end of the window so i can come on this site without people going on and on about signing bale.
1. Benitez doesn't want to sell him.
2. perez doesn't want to sell him.
3. bale doesn't want to leave.

and yet we still have posters saying we should pay more for bale than madrid paid for him. Also has ADM ever said he wants to leave? NO. Has LVG ever indicated he would be willing to sell ADM? NO
We already have enough wide players and, according to LVG too many number 10s. let's sign a top class CB and striker and then get on with the new season.
Know all the baleites will be up in arms but the idea that we will conquer the world with him in our team( messi or a younger CR7 maybe) is IMO rubbish

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14 Jul 2015 16:53:19
couldn't agree more Allan, just desperate fans dreaming about bale, not happening!

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14 Jul 2015 16:58:28
I may be wrong but I think we will sign Bale in this window.

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14 Jul 2015 17:02:22
Neither LvG or ADM have expressed their true feelings but it's clear neither of happy. ADM was dropped time and time again so I think LVG would listen to offers, especially if we can recoup what we paid. And it's clear as glass that ADM wants out, the guy looks miserable and is playing awful, I want him to kick on as much as the next guy but I wouldn't mind if he left, seems to have a shocking attitude and doesn't want to be here, if he wants little competition and a boat full of money then he can F off to Ligue 1 for all I care.

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14 Jul 2015 17:15:36
even i think we won't get bale and about ADM i still remember the look on LVG face when Adm came of injured against hull i have a feelin that lvg want to sell him .

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14 Jul 2015 17:28:56
If we sign a top class CB then it's a brilliant window. I'm not bothered about signing world class attacking players until LVG goes, world class for the neutral isn't world class for an LVG system - we could have had anyone up top last season and it wouldn't have mattered much. Our wingers have a lot of responsibility as well, so what most people consider to be world class isn't necessarily right for us just yet.

I am pleased LVG has sorted the midfield, I think they are ideal for his way of play and if he gets the back sorted by default our attackers should come into their own. I think we will be rock hard to beat next season and that 60% possession will be 75%. Hopefully chances will be created as well and we will actually be good to watch.

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14 Jul 2015 17:32:31
Dea gea has never said he wants to go but what's your point??

Every player regardless of wanting to be sold has a price so for people to belive we can sign him why is that a bad thing?

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14 Jul 2015 17:42:28
If we sign Bale, great; however, I won't lose any sleep if we don't.

The problem I have with Di Maria is he quite evidently couldn't be bothered most of last season and didn't play for our badge. I believe after a disappointing World Cup final, he probably looked at the Copa America as a way to make amends. Therefore he protected himself to make sure he was in his best shape for the Copa America.

I don't expect him to care more for the United shirt than his National shirt, however, I expect him to love them both the same. Di Maria will never do that and should be sold for that alone with or without a replacement ready and available.

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14 Jul 2015 18:08:36
Adm going nowhere, same as bale! Well said

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14 Jul 2015 18:25:57
ADM - Started well, got injured, played out of position, burgled, lacked confidence, never picked.

He wanted to do his best I believe, but his natural ability was stifled and he showed how incapable he is of performing well when others aren't or doing something brilliant when playing bad himself. We paid double what he was worth, but there were mitigating circumstances behind his poor season.

This manager wanted him to be our Robben, but didn't realise how much more defensive the PL is and how dominating the ball meant we couldn't break at pace, nullifying the best attributes of ADM. For Young to be our best winger it is quite clear that the problem is deeper than form, it is the system and the manager mainly.

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14 Jul 2015 18:30:38
Beast , you say that you're glad lvg has sorted the midfield and we should be stronger next season and better to watch . You don't think that possibly that might have been the plan all along but that as was said here before it was always probably going to take 3 transfer windows

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14 Jul 2015 18:30:58
the point spb is, to persuade the manager and the president to sell a player that neither wants to sell our offer would have to be way in excess of what the player is worth. Over £100m probably. Also as bale himself has said he doesn't want to leave what sort of package would we have to offer to tempt him to change his mind? something approaching CR7s maybe which i believe is £600k per week

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14 Jul 2015 19:20:10
We didn't have the personal to play the way LVG wants to play last season we done very well getting top 4 with players like feilleni young and valencia and no return from 4 strikers
We played tottenham man city Liverpool and first half Chelsea and arsenal off the park with the system LVG implicated now he's got the players in he wants and hopefully a CF and a commanding CB I think you will be eating your words BEAST he's won the league everyteam he's went to and I don't see why it wont't happen with us in fact we should EXPECT it

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14 Jul 2015 19:46:52
Beast , I agree with a lot of the above , but to say ADM's "natural ability was stiffled" is rubbish. Most players start off fairly well because they have a point to prove. I think after a few games he came to realise how different and harder and faster the game is over here and didn't like it , end of.
He didn't want to be here in the first place , but we were the only club daft enough to pay the money Madrid wanted. I still maintain he was a "statement" signing.
He is a decent player in his day. He is not a world beater , and never will be. This idea that he was Madrid's best player is a myth. He had a few good games , but he is far too inconsistent and always has been. He is equally at home playing through the middle as he is out wide , so not sure where this idea that he was played out of position comes from. Even if he was , that doesn't account for lack of effort and desire , or his inability to control the ballmor pass it 10 yards to a team mate.
He is a decent player I accept , and if he had cost us £10m I don't think we would complain too much. But when you pay £60m for a player , I think it is not unreasonable for the fans to expect a whole lot more than we have seen so far.
My heart says I hope he stays and proves me , and a lot of other wrong. Unfortunately , my head says otherwise. If he didn't really want to be here last year , how much do you think he wants to be here after a very average first season?
I think if PSG ( the club he really wanted last summer ) come knocking , you want see his arse for dust.

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14 Jul 2015 19:26:55
I would like to keep ADM next season but think he may be sold. I don't think LVG is overly keen on him and I think the club regret the massive wages he's on. the wage bill has been reduced significantly recently and apart from Rooney and ADM I believe most players wages are reasonable. So recouping their transfer fee and saving on wages financially makes great sense as he hasn't justified the money spent so far. A case of cutting your losses I think

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14 Jul 2015 19:46:52
Beast , I agree with a lot of the above , but to say ADM's "natural ability was stiffled" is rubbish. Most players start off fairly well because they have a point to prove. I think after a few games he came to realise how different and harder and faster the game is over here and didn't like it , end of.
He didn't want to be here in the first place , but we were the only club daft enough to pay the money Madrid wanted. I still maintain he was a "statement" signing.
He is a decent player in his day. He is not a world beater , and never will be. This idea that he was Madrid's best player is a myth. He had a few good games , but he is far too inconsistent and always has been. He is equally at home playing through the middle as he is out wide , so not sure where this idea that he was played out of position comes from. Even if he was , that doesn't account for lack of effort and desire , or his inability to control the ballmor pass it 10 yards to a team mate.
He is a decent player I accept , and if he had cost us £10m I don't think we would complain too much. But when you pay £60m for a player , I think it is not unreasonable for the fans to expect a whole lot more than we have seen so far.
My heart says I hope he stays and proves me , and a lot of other wrong. Unfortunately , my head says otherwise. If he didn't really want to be here last year , how much do you think he wants to be here after a very average first season?
I think if PSG ( the club he really wanted last summer ) come knocking , you want see his arse for dust.

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14 Jul 2015 19:54:41
Allan, the editors have told us already that Real Madrid would sell Bale at the right price. It doesn't matter what Benitez wants in all honesty. As for Bale himself, I'd gladly have him earning the most at our club than AdM.

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14 Jul 2015 20:01:33
My posts are so good , they get put up twice.
Well , that's what JMB would have said anyway :)

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14 Jul 2015 20:24:09
Keep adm and sign cavani. Rooney needs competition and he will definitely give him that captain or not.

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14 Jul 2015 21:18:26
Bilko - yes mate it was the plan I agree. Every manager has an ideal system and ideal players and works towards that end, what managers don't typically do is ask players that are incapable to do jobs for a system that only 1 or 2 players are comfortable with. A good manager assesses his squad and works around that, he doesn't pick a system ignoring the squad. That is why I hated last season so much, it was a wasted season.

Nach - On paper if he signs another CB then I would put us up for the league, the problem I have is that I don't think the manager is right for this specific task. I won't keep going over the reasons why, but our best players were squad players last season - we need our top players to perform well regularly, I don't think he is the man for it.

Betty & Betty haha - I agree about ADM mate in the main, never rated him that highly, but the out of position thing is mainly when he was stuck up front for a few weeks (QPR I remember specifically which was a joke), then we shuffled the system again and he was stuck out wide, hardly getting the ball - with zero movement around him. He was a disgrace mainly and I would get rid of him, but I don't think he didn't try (or saved himself for the Copa America as some suggest), I just think he got his head down when he first came, things started to go wrong and he just let it get to him. Almost like going back with an Ex, you have those few nights where it's great and then the old problems start presenting themselves and you remember why you didn't want to be there! We'll see him in Paris.

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14 Jul 2015 15:59:22
Valdes to Madrid!?

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14 Jul 2015 16:54:27
Behave!

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14 Jul 2015 15:49:57
Even Forlan couldn't make it at utd let alone Cavani. I am not a fan of his nor of his rumoured move.

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mbd              

14 Jul 2015 16:17:08
Please tell me the similarities between Forlan and Cavani because bar their nationality, I don't see many.

Now I don't want us to sign Cavani but I think he's getting a lot of underserved hate, he has a brilliant goal scoring record, even getting 30 last year playing both on the wing and second fiddle to Zlatan.

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14 Jul 2015 17:26:18
I think tv showed a list of the top goal scorers in Europe in the last fice season. Cavani is 4th or 5th with 131 goals or so.

I'm sorry, but as much as people dislike him, you can't say a bad striker would reach that many goals.

He has played for a just above average Napoli side for 3 of those years, and played second fiddle to Ibrahimovic at PSG. Cavani is a very good striker.

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14 Jul 2015 19:09:45
They are both strikers aren't they? Forlan is a two-time winner of both the Pichichi Trophy and the European Golden Shoe, and also received the Golden Ball as the best player at the 2010 World Cup. Is that not a good record?

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mbd              

14 Jul 2015 19:37:32
That really is a flawed logic MBD. A players nationality has very little influence on if they will be a success or not.

Using your logic, Nani should now be one of our best players because Ronaldo was good for us? Didn't quite turn out that way did it.

I think Cavani would be a good signing.

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14 Jul 2015 21:59:12
so if Cavani signed for Liverpool he'd been a hit considering they had a brilliant Uruguayan striker in Suarez?

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14 Jul 2015 15:19:21
Logged in today hoping to read some replies to my 1st ever post and it's nowhere to be seen! That took me ages to write (shappy how do you do it? What happened Ed's?

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{Ed002's Note - Try the teams page.}

14 Jul 2015 17:59:07
Welcome to the mad house. as long as your not JMB with a new name ;) jl

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14 Jul 2015 16:27:59
Cheers Ed2 but i don't see it there either?

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14 Jul 2015 18:52:53
Glory hunter,

I saw your post somewhere mate just think things are getting pushed down the page at the moment.

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14 Jul 2015 19:42:50
Cheers lads I saw it this morning but didn't have time to read the comments as I was getting ready for work. U'll soon see I'm not jmb,not half as arrogant

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14 Jul 2015 19:42:50
Cheers lads I saw it this morning but didn't have time to read the comments as I was getting ready for work. U'll soon see I'm not jmb,not half as arrogant

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14 Jul 2015 15:42:00
With all our acquisitions in midfield and hopefully another striker coming in I don't see how we are going to give any game time to Januzaj. He needs games and I am sure he will be a top player.

A loan for sure imo.

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14 Jul 2015 17:27:07
I am hoping Adnan goes on loan, with Memphis taking #11.

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14 Jul 2015 18:01:15
I wouldn't take his shirt number away, the responsibility of our number 11 is a privelage and I think taking his number away would create tension and uncertainty of his place

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14 Jul 2015 20:27:38
I don't see a problem with his number being taken away. Might give him the kick up the ass he needs.

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14 Jul 2015 15:30:53
Carvalho out for 10 - 12 weeks with an injury, he's not going anywhere this window . not that it bothers us !!

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14 Jul 2015 15:23:59
Am still not recovered fully from the daze I suffered as a result of the news of our signings that greeted my Monday morning. I however kept surfing the net minute by minute since then with this feeling that I will yet see a news that will finally knock me off to wake up on Prem's dee day.
Read somewhere that our 100m Euro bid for bale was rejected by Madrid-how I wish we get this fella and I will stick my neck for the 21sth win.
The coming in of the two Ss will pose a new challenge as to who btw Mata and Harera plays.If ua to choose btw them, who will it be for you?
Thanks fella in advance for your contributions.

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14 Jul 2015 16:12:51
Herrera for me having the gruesome schwooshm will bring out the best in both mata and Herrera in fact I think those signings will bring a whole new dimension to our attack can't wait for new season

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14 Jul 2015 16:36:09
Depends on formation for me

In a 4-3-3 i'd have herrera as the third midfielder because of his energy and him being better defensively than mata

In a 4-2-3-1 i'd have mata at no 10 behind rooney with less defensive responsibilty and the 2 solid schmidfielders behind him

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14 Jul 2015 14:57:01
Barcelona - suarez
Madrid - benzema, ronaldo?
Bayern - Lewandowski, pizzaro (muller doesn't play striker, plays false 9)
Chelsea - costa, remy
Arsenal - giroud(considered not good enough), (looking for another forward)

My point being none of those teams have 2 high profile strikers. I am talking about out and out strikers and not someone who can play as a striker. Then if our coach's fav formation is the 4-3-3, which we can finally play now because of our mf additions, why are we going after a high profile striker(probably cavani) when we have rooney and wilson? Unless of course the coach doesn't trust rooney to be a great no 9.
If we do buy a big name striker then it will surely cause a problem as he won't want to be on the bench. So then,
a) rooney on the bench - not happening
b) new striker on the bench - probably not happening
c) rooney in the midfield - bad, bad idea not only because rooney is terrible there but also because one of our actual midfielders would be on the bench.
d) rooney as the number 10 - again mata is better there.

Solution - buy a striker who'd be happy to stay on the bench, either someone young or someone like sakho. Remember, if the midfield is good enough then teams like barca, madrid, bayern play brilliantly without even a striker but everytime we played with two strikers last year, we were awful.

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14 Jul 2015 15:05:38
how often has rooney got 20+ goals a season? yeh that's why your after a new striker!

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14 Jul 2015 15:06:26
Totally agree the answer is to sell rooney and get a new striker in and give Wilson a proper chance I got slated earlier for saying Charlie Austin as our third striker but the main point is we need a shake up in the striking department and the only way it's going to happen is to sell rooney

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14 Jul 2015 15:17:29
This is certainly the conundrum we face with our attack, the solution, I don't know!

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14 Jul 2015 15:20:25
Oh man, a sell Rooney debate. These always end well

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14 Jul 2015 15:31:30
rooney will score more goals now we have a midfield, he won't have to go chasing the ball so much

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14 Jul 2015 15:34:34
Tough scenario to be in. I wonder if LVG has the cajones to drop Rooney?

I'd be tempted to give Rooney this season as the out and out striker to see if he can score 20+ goals before going and spending big money on another name.

Possibly sell Di Maria and bring in a goalscoring winger to provide goals if Rooney isn't up to it and bring in somebody to do what Remy has done at Chelsea.

It'll sure be interesting whatever happens.

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14 Jul 2015 15:48:59
In the premier league, while playing for manchester united, wayne rooney has averaged 15 goals a season in the league. Which considering he has not consistenly been played as an out and out striker in recent years and has instead been made to do more and more defensive work is a pretty impressive total. While this has been a pretty consistant complaint throughout Rooneys career when he has been played as an out and out striker he has got goals and with the current midfield i think he will have the support to do so. I think we have room for one new first team player which should obviously be a CB. Thus bring in austin this season, get rid of Rooney next season if he doesn't do the business.

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14 Jul 2015 15:51:00
Boddey if you are talking league goals its twice. Shearer did it 7 times. Ruud did it 6 times, Henry did it 5 times.

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14 Jul 2015 15:53:28
Where did i suggest that we should sell rooney?

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14 Jul 2015 16:19:43
Lvg should buy a top striker and Rooney will have to raise his game and accept being part of a squad. No one should or likely will be guaranteed a place this season. LVG did say that about Rooney last season but that was last season when we had little leadership on the pitch. If Rooney is our main goal scoring option then it is unlikely we would win anything. Many times I have said Rooney has hot and cold patches and we can't rely on him. Buy the top striker look for goals from midfield whilst the defence worries about the striker and if Rooney can get in the team he will be hungrier than he has been for some time.

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14 Jul 2015 15:55:39
the year rooney played as an out and out striker he scored 35 goals.

i think with the midfiled we have now, players like rooney, mata, di maria may flourish as they won't be need to come back as often.

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14 Jul 2015 16:15:59
shearer did it 7 times, and that's with average players. Rooney has had the likes of scholes feeding him chances. He should of scored a lot more goals. If you do decide to sell him who would buy him?? he's on a huge wage at united and doesn't justify it in my opinion

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14 Jul 2015 16:40:28
The transition will not be complete until we sell Rooney, but we're not likely to do that, so let's not get into that debate again - pretty please. Let's concentrate more on whether the original premise holds water.

What is LVG looking to try and do? He still clearly believes in possession style football, however he needs to construct a team that can deal with the EPL style - a sort of muscular tiki-taka. The purchases he's made certainly fit in with this concept.

I feel confident that whether or not we get another CB, our defence will concede fewer goals than last season, when dealing with the departures of Vidic, Ferdinand and Evra coupled with a host of injuries, and the virtual necessity of playing with 3 at the back, delayed the imposition of tactical assimilation. Now, we also have better cover in front of the defence. We also need to score possibly 15 more goals to contend for the title.

Possession style football is inherently less attractive. Without goals it's a frustrating drag, and it is worth noting we scored fewer goals last year with "stars" like Di Maria and Falcao in our team, than we did the year before. We will need to be more creative, exhibit better first touch, and be faster in thought and action in order to break through the packed defences our possession style football will no doubt force on less talented teams. So I say, beware LVG, the wrath of the Beast is omnipresent, awaiting the opportunity to wreak havoc on your smug philosophy.

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14 Jul 2015 16:43:32
IMBS - quality post there's one thing having competition for places but then that can lead to people not getting a conistent run intheir favoured position which is what happened last year with rooney being shifted to all positions

I think what rooney needs is lvg to tell him he has this season to be the lead striker and he has to deliver otherwise well buy a striker next summer and his place in the team is in doubt

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14 Jul 2015 17:10:34
Not sure he needs to tell him DSG. With this team behind him, if he doesn't score 20 goals, or alternatively, if the team doesn't score 75 because Rooney's work up front is creating space and opportunities for others, it should be obvious his days are numbered as our main attacker.

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14 Jul 2015 17:24:52
I'm by no means Wayne's biggest fan (am I, Deeps) but I do believe as an out and out striker, with the midfield we have now, the guy will score a hatful.

I'd still like Cavani for his versatility, as we have (hopefully) a lot of games this season, and without Wayne we look really light up front - if we're serious about proper challenges this season.

I love Wilson, and I understand the argument for getting a lesser name as back up, but are you telling me a front line 3 out of Cavani/Rooney/Depay/ADM, doesn't sound delicious?

3 from 4? That's the manager's problem. Fergie managed it with the same conundrum. Let's leave LVG to sort it out.

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14 Jul 2015 17:51:05
Noucamp, the thing is Fergie played 2 strikers. Lvg may, but isn't known for it.

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14 Jul 2015 18:29:28
Another point of note is, where will Fellaini play? Certainly not in the heart of midfield with the purchases we have made. With a shift towards more technical possession football I see him struggling to get in as a no.10 with the likes of Mata, Herrera and Rooney who can play in that position. Will he be deployed as an emergency Striker when necessary? If we have have Rooney as first choice striker, Wilson as backup, Depay and Fellaini for emergencies - how many games does that leave for a new signing?

The decision on what striker to buy and subsequently what to do with Rooney - may well be the biggest challenge Lvg faces during his tenure as United manager. I'm interested to see what solution he thinks best.

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14 Jul 2015 18:57:45
Sorry, IMBS. I was meaning Rooney up top, with Cavani and ADM/Depay either side of him, interchanging when needed, not a front two. I still don't think Depay will get loads of games this season, as the experts seem to think he'll need another season, so there's plenty of game time to go round.

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14 Jul 2015 14:54:54
Ed002 has posted on the Liverpool page saying we are pushing for a striker. I know this seems obvious considering our current situation up top but nice to get confirmation from Ed002 that our intentions are indeed to get another forward in. No word on who it is unfortunately we can only guess on that part (thanks JMB)!

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14 Jul 2015 14:32:42
Ed002 is dead. Ed002 remains dead. And we [but mostly JMB] have killed her. How shall we comfort ourselves [masturbation?], the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us [Ronnie would probably do it for Dairylea]? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become Ed002s simply to appear worthy of it?

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14 Jul 2015 15:14:28
Errr beans on toast please.
😕

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14 Jul 2015 15:29:43
I agree with this 100%.
As far as I can tell 😐

Good work!

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14 Jul 2015 15:46:40
Thus spake Danny Pughnited

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14 Jul 2015 15:53:31
Post of the year. Bravo.

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14 Jul 2015 16:39:03
Julius Caesar ????

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14 Jul 2015 16:42:42
I prefer Ed001 (no offence Ed002). Ed001 has to spend all day on the Pool page listening to people tell him Milner is better than Schweinsteiger. Poor lad, must be tough living amongst the crazies.

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14 Jul 2015 16:59:00
I think I understand this post

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14 Jul 2015 17:53:01
Doesn't ed001 also think that milner is better than schweinsteiger? :)

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14 Jul 2015 01:37:30
Hi Ed Thanks for this website. There has been a lot of transfer activity recently but I am keen to know if we are after another striker? I think we badly need another with RVP departing. I am not so sure Rooney and Depay will be enough, and what about Chicharito, any news if he will be staying or going?

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{Ed007's Note - It looks like Chicharito will be leaving and I'd be amazed if there isn't at least one striker lined up to come in. It's took over from the CB positions the weakest area of the team now and there's no way Utd won't address it.}

14 Jul 2015 13:59:42
Here is one for you, if we signed Bale do you think we would need a striker or do you think Rooney and Wilson would be enough with Depay, Bale or Januzaj able to cover? Or do you think we would still need one?

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14 Jul 2015 14:22:20
Ed002 said on the liverpool page that united and arsenal are both pushing for a striker, my money's on cavani coming in.

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14 Jul 2015 14:24:35
I personally think if we kept Di Maria, and bought Bale, we wouldn't need a striker no.
If Rooney got injured, I think we would go total football with no recognised 9, with Bale or ADM furthest up, or even Depay for that matter.

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14 Jul 2015 14:13:44
I'd settle for just Bale, won't happen though.

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14 Jul 2015 15:05:25
Welbz would be handy right now

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14 Jul 2015 15:33:27
welbz up top over bale/depay/adm? not for me.

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14 Jul 2015 15:41:23
If Bale comes in I'd rather sell ADM and get one of Lewndowski, Muller, Lacazette or Kane. If none of those were available I would rather not sign a striker

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14 Jul 2015 18:57:41
Ed002 said a while ago that Benzema is a possibility. I would watch what happens at Madrid as they have hardly done anything tho summer and they usually shuffle quite a few things. I reckon next year is the year we will see an exodus of players from there, just give the spanish waiter one season to really screw them up. Reckon they will finish behind athletic and barca.

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14 Jul 2015 13:58:53
If the otamendi deal doesn't happen, then who would we turn to? I am struggling to find names we have been linked with, we do need a leader in that defence, someone to keep it organised and there are not many options out there who are manageable to get.

Just wondering who people think could play that role. Diego Godin?

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14 Jul 2015 14:19:45
Going by the signings so far it could well be that who we're going for is very much out of the eyes of the media, I think otanendi will sign but don't be surprised if it is someone nobody has mentioned (hard to find a name that hasn't been mentioned in fairness lol)

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14 Jul 2015 14:22:29
trev that's really good question but i fell deal is done we just looking for him to return from vacation and at present we r more interested in signing striker i really hope the deal is done there is little quality cb out there who we can buy i did asked a question to ED when he will come from vacation hope some one can answer.

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14 Jul 2015 14:59:06
I read we've been linked with Stefan Savic, left footed centre back so could be something to it?

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14 Jul 2015 15:01:03
Other than Otamendi you have other experienced options in Benatia, Garay or Howedes. Or you could go for a top level young player with massive upside such as Varane, Marquinhos, Laporte, Stones or Gimenez.
Or you could look at those less heralded players who could make a step up in a bigger team, such as Manolas, Inigo Martinez, N'Koulou or de Vrij.

If we can't get Otamendi then personally I would go with one of Garay, Marquinhos, Manolas or de Vrij.
But with better cover in front of the defence and hopefully a team better at keeping the ball them our defence would be under less pressure either way.

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14 Jul 2015 15:15:03
Sorry he's right footed not left

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14 Jul 2015 15:43:48
Varane, Marquinhos, Laporte, Garay or Stones for me, think Otamendi is a done deal though

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14 Jul 2015 15:47:38
Potentially Virgil Van Dijk from Celtic?

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14 Jul 2015 16:17:24
Van Dijk is a glorified Smalling :P

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mbd              

14 Jul 2015 18:59:01
Give PSG ADM and take marquinos and some cash back.

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14 Jul 2015 13:13:00
Long time no speak, a mixture of being in Portugal & settling in at my new job being the reasons.

a few things I've missed.

SCHWEINSTIGER - SCHNEIDERLIN - DARMIAN

Great 3 players and all for reasonable prices as well! Trust in the Woodward.

Lastly a quick note on this Di Maria for Cavani stuff that seems to be being bounded about. Everyone is saying they don't see it happening and i agreed fully. Swap deals are very rare and its unlikely cavani will want to be second place. Although, if it does happen there is no reason we have to sell Mata, nor drop him. Di Maria this season will most probably be operating on the right wing, so if he goes and Cavani comes in, you can drop rooney to No.10 and have Mata on the right. LvG clearly likes Mata there and he did a great job there in the second half of the season. leaving the midfield and striker positions looking a bit like this

Schweinstiger Schneiderlin
Mata Rooney Depay
Cavani

with Herrera Carrick Young Fellaini and Valencia all able to cover.

I would like to see Herrera start though.

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14 Jul 2015 14:25:55
mata is class, with the midfield we have now, players like mata and di maria will hopefully have more freedom, and are less likely to be needed to defend all the time.

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14 Jul 2015 15:09:25
Herrera is too good to just be back up and I think no. 10 could be his best position , he can create , he'll work hard for the team and he showed last season that he's a good finisher

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14 Jul 2015 15:49:23
Would love to see players played in their best positions. Schweinsteiger at no.6 Herrera at no.8 Mata no.10 front 3 of Depay on the left Rooney and ADM on the right

Rotate those with Carrick no.6 Schneiderlin no.8 Fellaini/ Januzaj no.10. Young as back up for Depay, Wilson as back up for Rooney and Januzaj/ Pereira back up for ADM

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14 Jul 2015 13:07:02
With all the talk of us needing a new CB, is Inigo Martinez still or was he even ever on the cards? Good strong CB and still only 24?

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14 Jul 2015 15:32:02
Very good cb also Veltman who Louis used well at the World Cup would also be useful

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14 Jul 2015 13:03:47
Ed
Any insight on how lingaard is rated at the club. And what future hold for him
Most players are sold from that batch only he has been kept. Every tour he displays sharp performances. scores goals and shows a flair in attacking 3rd.

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{Ed001's Note - he is highly rated, which is why he is still there. I think this season will be another loan season.}

14 Jul 2015 14:20:03
I can see him heading to Newcastle on loan. From what I heard Maclaren liked him at Derby. Would do him good to get PL experience on a loan.

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14 Jul 2015 12:04:56
Hi guys

I believe adm is 100% going to leave, LvG will not stand in his way. But I do believe we are trying to thrash out a deal to bring Bale to Old Trafford. I believe we have been working on this potential deal for weeks/months. It ties in with what Ed002 mentioned a while ago stating That Madrid could listen to offers "at the right price". Well I'm sure Ed Woodward is testing what the right price is, especially whilst Madrid want one of our top talents.
I think all this Ramos stuff is simply a smokescreen. It allows both clubs to work through a deal of this size undetected.

As far as Cavani's concerned, I wouldn't mind him joining us but I feel it will create a bigger headache for LvG. (Where will Rooney play) if Rooney plays no.10, mata will surely be surplus to requirements and it'll also effect Herreras game time. So with that said I don't see Cavani in a utd shirt playing second fiddle to Rooney or sitting on the bench.

But back to my point regarding Bale. If he joins us it allows Rooney to play up top with mata or Herrera in behind plus we will have a strike force of Rooney bale and depay which all three can play up top if Rooney gets injured. Then youngy gets a shout on the wing.

It may sound far fetched but I'm just putting my opinion out there.

Cue the disagrees lol

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14 Jul 2015 12:23:51
If it is your opinion then you are not 100%, just saying lol.

It does seem far fetched you are right, have you heard any rumours of this or just guessing?

I agree on Cavani, top player and would give LVG a headache but it would be quite a nice headache, not sure the first team squad need to worry about game time this season though, plenty of games to enjoy.

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14 Jul 2015 13:01:20
Well he can be 100% in his opinion, he's not stating fact, just saying.

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14 Jul 2015 13:02:53
Why would Di maria speak about staying with us long and winning trophies with us and then suddenly quit?

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14 Jul 2015 13:22:06
Masterwayne, countless times players have said then and then left their club. It doesn't mean anything.

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14 Jul 2015 13:24:50
No the first time a player would have done that.

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14 Jul 2015 13:42:31
long time reader and 1st time poster .
Lets say our signings are getting finished up before 1st of august .
Adidas are not going to be best pleased are they ?

a 10 year £750 million total and in there first season they are going to want to sell shirts big time with that marque signing .

it could be that Ramos is the smoke screen and that the deal involving DDG won't happen until after the 1st August and a deal involving Bale & DDG will then commence making Adidas very happy .as if the bale deal was going to be done while Nike was still in then Adidas wouldn't be happy .they may even be paying a little extra for bale from Adidas either the fee or a % of his wages . not sure about gatian maybe a back up plan if the bale deal don't go through .

I can't see Cavani being that Marque signing . maybe with Ramos . but i do have a sneaky feeling that it will be bale .

I think if bale is bought then the swap deal with cavani won't happen and it will be straight cash with maybe another player from PSG .

makes sense that nothing else is done yet as i believe its all to do with Bale movement .

cavani will be bought in if we don't get bale and so with gatian .

I would prefer it if we went all out and got bale and kane as the marque signings .

if we do sign a high profile strike then it will be a 4-2-3-1 formation . against hard teams like city and chelsea it will be 4-1-2-3.

be kind .

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14 Jul 2015 13:54:21
It's called being diplomatic . If he said he wanted out and no one stumped up the money to buy him he'd be left in an awkward situation

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14 Jul 2015 14:26:05
If ADM wants,to go back to Madrid then we should package him and DDG up.meet somewhere under the cover of night and hand them over for Bale.
Try to return home and pinch Oblak on the Way!
Surely this is how it is done.

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14 Jul 2015 14:15:11
yes players have done that before but that is usually when some questions come up from the reporter and players say they want to stay bla bla. but in case of di maria he came out and said that vlountarily to show his commitment. atleast that's what I thought

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14 Jul 2015 14:30:16
bale will not be leaving Madrid, Rafa has already said he wants to make bale the star of Madrid team and play him in his favoured position of left wing. you have depay to play left wing so bale isn't going to go somewhere if they have just spent big on a left winger is he? Stop dreaming of him because its not happening. I would love him back in the prem tho but won't happen.

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14 Jul 2015 11:53:21
I for one would be delighted with Cavani and Otamendi being our final two signings of the summer (providing we keep Di Maria).

Otamendi looks to be a very accomplished defender and an important International player. With the shielding he will get from our midfield I'd not even be worried if Evans played there to be honest!

Cavani for me is an excellent player. He was very very good against Chelsea and is a constant nuisance with his height, power and undeniable goal scoring ability. He is like Benteke but far, far better. He is also not a player that relies on pace and at 28 has a good 5 years longer at the top. He has scored 115 in 159 games with Palermo, Napoli and PSG.

I honestly cannot think of a better striker that we could get for the EPL. Lewandowski would be the best option and maybe Benzema but neither will be leaving their club.

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14 Jul 2015 12:31:11
In fairness fresh falcao also looked a world beater, his performance against Chelsea for atletico was sensational.

My point being that in the systems we play it may not suit him, he does however possess the necessary tools to be a very good premier league player, I will trust the boards judgment if we get him but I'm sticking to my guns and saying he won't sign

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14 Jul 2015 12:31:46
that a good post fresh and cavani do have good work rate he can press high up the feild too . at day go buy i think cavani will end in our club but only if ADM leaves .i think the main problem in bale is manager changed in real Madrid and when ever real sell the star player like ozil r Adm they bougth players much before but this time they never got any new players so i highly doubt it

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14 Jul 2015 11:45:53
Don't think anyone has done it yet, would just like to welcome Ana Ivanovic to Old Trafford also!

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14 Jul 2015 12:37:11
Yeah here here, if she's reading this and wants to come round to mine for dinner one evening, as a welcome, I'll kick the wife out for the evening :-)

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14 Jul 2015 13:45:58
Brendan81,seriously???

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14 Jul 2015 13:47:29
DING DONG

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14 Jul 2015 14:07:08
It was an offer to Schweinsteigers mrs Fanboy, wasn't an open offer to everyone, sorry.

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14 Jul 2015 15:10:13
It's the kicking the missus out for the evening mate. Lol

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14 Jul 2015 17:01:06
Well she gets me the test of the time, she's very lucky!

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14 Jul 2015 11:36:38
With the di maria rumours getting stronger a fee of 60 million muted and 2 players coming our way who would be the two? Seems cavanni who would the other one be?

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14 Jul 2015 11:43:39
there are 3 players worth looking at there, Veratti, Marquinhos and maybe Moura. I think there are much better strikers out there than Cavani.

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14 Jul 2015 11:48:52
i really doubt this swap deal for one player u saying 2 player never going to happen may be FM is possible

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14 Jul 2015 13:14:55
Nah there hard to do on football manager as well

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14 Jul 2015 11:31:30
Cavani rumours hotting up again, can't see it happening as a player of his pedigree will move to be first choice, if he is happy being played on the wing or second choice he wouldn't be looking to move, only way I see it is if Rooney I dropped or put in the hole or Maya is sold, something I do not want to happen, I think Mata is much more valuable than people give him credit for, one of my favourite players currently

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14 Jul 2015 11:43:23
Given that two of Schweinsteiger , Carrick and Scneiderlin will start most games , if we signed someone like Cavani and Rooney was moved to no. 10 , where would that leave Herrera ?

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14 Jul 2015 11:49:36
Formations isn't my concern really I'm just excited at the prospect of having such quality in our squad. That said here's my take on cavani.

I'd accept cavani however not in exchange for ADM. I'm reluctant for him to go. Just cavani though seems to fit in with LVG and what he's doing. Physically our team was weak last year and cavani is a physical strong player almost Costa like. I'm looking forward to competing physically this year with the singings we have made. Buzzing for the season.

PS what a genuine guy Bastian appears to be at first glance. Bit like Mata.

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14 Jul 2015 12:03:56
My thoughts exactly, one of the reasons I liked Mata even in his Chelsea days, whilst the other end of the spectrum you have ADM who seems to be a primaddona in every walk of life lol

Back on the original topic, for the reasons I stated I can't see cavani ending up at old Trafford unless we are planning on using two strikers, good point about Herrera, I would hate him to be affected as he's a great little player to have in the side

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14 Jul 2015 14:02:36
The problem is the same as last season
Unless lvg is willing to drop rooney there is no point bringing in a big name striker who isn't willing to sit on a bench personally I think cavani would be ideal as a lone front man for us we need a shake up in the striker department someone that gives us something different I'm hoping James Wilson is going to get a lot more game time I believe he could be better than Harry kane and get Charlie Austin as the third striker bite the bullet and sell rooney LVG

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14 Jul 2015 14:24:43
Meant to include that we're most likely playing with 1 up top with support from wingers in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 hence why it doesn't seem plausible

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14 Jul 2015 11:30:43
A noticeable difference between the mindsets of the players we have signed.

Milner says that he is ready to 'run through a brick wall' for Brendan Rodgers whilst Schweinsteiger wants to win all the trophies, haha.

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14 Jul 2015 11:29:18
Great photo of Schweinsteiger as a youngster in an umbro Utd kit on the net .I think he has always wanted this move .

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14 Jul 2015 11:23:19
Rumours are we could hear something in the next few days regarding cavani

If di Maria is sold we will go all out for bale.

If Cavani and di Maria where to happen they would be separate deals

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14 Jul 2015 10:59:36
There seems to be a lot of speculation over edison cavanni i think he has lost a lot of his speed and heard that he is a bit of a sulk when things are not going his way would we b3 going down the falcoa route by the way i'm not slagging falcoa i believe he was a very humble man i'm just comparing their pace in the final third

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14 Jul 2015 11:08:22
Look at both of their stats for last season, cavani still managed 30 goals last season, says it all.

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14 Jul 2015 11:40:53
Why has he lost a lot of speed?

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14 Jul 2015 11:47:28
cavani is Lvg type of player and can any ed can say when will otamendi will report back from vacation . thx

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14 Jul 2015 10:45:35
Banter please Ed

I've set up a Google sheet for predictions for next season. As we had a tie last year, I have extended it slightly so we now need the top 6 in order, the bottom 3 in order, FA Cup winners, League Cup Winners, Champions League Winners, and top scorer in Premier League (EPL games only). That should separate the men from the boys.

You just need to follow a link and fill in the boxes. However, YOU ONLY GET 1 ENTRY so once you have posted your entries you don't get to change them.

I'll post the link 2 weeks before the season starts and close the form off the day before.

We had 100 entries last year, all submitted through here so this should be a cleaner way of getting all entries without blocking these pages; please don't enter through these pages, just the link when I list it.

Ed - I'm guessing this is the cleanest way, once collated, is there any way the full list of entries can be published somewhere?

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{Ed001's Note - if you use the contact form to get in touch with Ed033 with the details, I am sure he can sort something out for you. The link is right at the bottom of the page.}

14 Jul 2015 11:41:09
Interested in taking part in this AJH good man for setting this up again. Probably best to let the transfer window run a little bit longer before we make our guesses!

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14 Jul 2015 11:42:13
Where is the link mate?

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14 Jul 2015 12:41:48
Yeha let the window finish then we will do our predictions.

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14 Jul 2015 14:12:53
Fresh, read my post

I'll post the link 2 weeks before the season starts and close the form off the day before.

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14 Jul 2015 10:40:30
I see a lot of people saying Cavani isn't good enough to join us?

If I had the choice to spend £40 million on a striker I had no idea about, then 2 men walk up to me, one being Van Gall and another some random lad from bury. I think I know who's advise i'd take! If LVG and his staff all believe Edison Cavani is the player suited for our system, then surely they've caught onto something?

I personally would welcome him with open arms as he has the pace, height, strength and finishing needed in a striker. Yes improvement in certain departments will be needed but I am confident he would be a big hit at our club.

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14 Jul 2015 10:24:23
You've got to hand it to BBC. They're already questioning Schweinsteiger deal calling it "risky"!! How could £14m on one of the best midfielders in world football be risky?
Also, they've also written Sterling's career off and are willing him to fail now that he has left their beloved Liverpool. Now I know Sterling is not a world beater, but I'm sure he will prosper at City. The money they paid is well over the top but he's only 20 and will improve.
Of course, there's no mention on BBC that firminio and all the other unknowns scousers have bought might also be a " risk"!!!
Name change below by popular demand and I'm delighted I have got rid of the old name as our club have finally addressed our midfield issue!!

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14 Jul 2015 10:46:58
There is a slight risk as he has missed some games but that is a recent thing. Given the fee and his ability I think he will have a real impact for us.

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14 Jul 2015 10:47:34
Loving the new name.
:-)

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14 Jul 2015 10:55:04
Yes lad. Will miss your former tag but onwards and upwards eh!

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14 Jul 2015 11:25:47
They also keep quoting Depay as our £33million signing which is just not true at all.

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14 Jul 2015 15:23:09
Schandalous

😎

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14 Jul 2015 10:22:05
Love the fact swienstieger has said manchester united are the only club he'd hsve left Munich for.also that he came to us because of our club, not to work with lvg again. I knew some players wanted to join specific clubs only no matter what money is offered! Good to hear a player only wanted us! Our 1st kraut, good sense of humour too

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14 Jul 2015 10:52:14
Completely agree pep. Very classy from scweiny

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14 Jul 2015 09:29:35
More strong links with Cavani, whether it be a swap deal with Di Maria or just a cash purchase. I really hope these rumours are false!

I'v watched him in the UCL against teams such as Chelsea, World Cup and Copa America and he just doesn't cut the mustard any more. He has really lost his class.

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14 Jul 2015 09:43:23
Seems like uv done your research

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14 Jul 2015 10:27:42
Whoatealldepays,

My thoughts exactly, didn't he score against England in the world cup? I thought he played pretty well, he was also exceptional in one of the games against chelsea.

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14 Jul 2015 11:04:01
Cavani wants to be main striker he's not going to get that with us lvg want move golden boy rooney so how about taking a punt on Charlie Austin he would be willing to play second fiddle to Rooney and he's better than ings

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14 Jul 2015 11:33:57
nach,

You would prefer Charlie Austin over Edinson Cavani?

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14 Jul 2015 14:29:31
I don't think nach is suggesting Austin is prefered over cavani, more that Austin wouldn't demand a starting role every week, you pay big money, you expect them to play, the reason di Maria looked so miserable on the bench, someone like Austin would be beaming just to be a Manchester united player

Personally I think Austin will move to Newcastle and play every week as he's a good striker who'll find the back of the net for them

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14 Jul 2015 08:37:22
With Schweinstiger still not penned a new contract yet is it possible he may leave for a big payday given he is now in his 30's?

{Ed002's Note - (a) What interest? Try the search engine. (b) I don't know what you mean "big pay day". Schweinsteiger is already eking out a reasonable living.}

RE my other post this is what I asked about Bastian in March. Woody should just hit me up for any more advice he needs.

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{Ed002's Note - Why don't you also tell them that you are the reason that I won't provide any more information to this page this summer? Actually, now I won't provide any at all in the future.}

14 Jul 2015 08:48:46
Gee thanks a lot jmb. This is exactly the information i was looking for.

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14 Jul 2015 08:53:54
Oh JMB, Why poke the bear!

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14 Jul 2015 09:03:30
JMB, would you kindly stop.

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14 Jul 2015 09:08:50
JMB,

Enough people on here think you are a bit of an idiot without you doing stuff like this, I think most people would agree they would kindly have you banned to get Ed002 back on here. The site is not about point scoring and digging up old posts, what an absolute twonk.

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14 Jul 2015 09:09:54
So you've basically spent your time searchbg that post for what, so you can try and show up Ed002 and once again potentially spoilt things for everyone else. Maybe an apology to Ed and us would go a long way.

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14 Jul 2015 09:55:03
Just when i thought this guy cudnt get more frustrating with his posts.

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14 Jul 2015 10:01:19
jmb this really uncalled this a banter site with fellow supportes and ED r here to just help us its better have banter with us with all the respect u need to apology to ed . none bigger r smaller .

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14 Jul 2015 10:06:48
JMB , you just can't help yourself can you? It is rather ironic that you criticise LvG for having a massive ego given that you seem to have one yourself. You seem to need attention in the same way that the rest of us need oxygen.
You asked the other day "why I hate thy so?".
Well , I don't hate thy so. To ne honest I actually feel sorry for you. I don't want to see anyone banned from the site , but at the moment you are about as popular as a fart in an astronaut suit.
When you joined the site you were constructive , and made a lot of really good points. Its mot for me to give advice, but why not go back to posting quality rather than quantity.
Too many people now use sites like this in the same way they use social media such as twitter.
This site is so much more than that. Perhaps if you treated this site , the Eds and its users , with the respect it deserves , then you would get some in return.

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14 Jul 2015 10:08:10
What a cock

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14 Jul 2015 10:15:07
Of course the eds aren't 100% right all of the time, their normal people, which I think is often forgotten on here. A week ago noone expected us to sign Bastian so looking for posts from 4 months ago proves what? Maybe at the time there was no interest. Things do change. Maybe recently his agent tipped us off.

As GDS said twonk

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14 Jul 2015 10:17:00
That's ridiculous. Hopefully ed002 will reconsider if everyone other than JMB wants her back

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14 Jul 2015 10:35:54
What an idiot.

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14 Jul 2015 10:36:44
I would gladly have him banned to get ed002 back in, an absolute numpty JMB, you've proved it time and time again.

Eds is there anything we can do about this? This is a site I've visited for years on end and loved it for the people like Syd, gds, Shappy, jred etc. But the knowledge that the Eds bring to this site is invaluable especially ed 002.

To bring this site back to what it was we need to get rid of some of the rotten bits

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{Ed001's Note - his accounts have been deleted.}

14 Jul 2015 10:50:26
GD, I agree. Tried to like your concise post more than once

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14 Jul 2015 11:06:27
Lovely job ed. is there a way we can get ed 002 back now at such a pivotal time for his/her knowledge?

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{Ed002's Note - That is not going to happen.}

14 Jul 2015 11:12:57
That's a shame ed, I just thought by getting rid of the reason why you don't post here anymore the door might be left ajar.

I must say thanks for all of your input, i think you were the main reason so many people joined this site, certainly mine. The other sites are lucky to have you. I'll still be popping to various sites to read your input and it's a loss to not have you over here anymore

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14 Jul 2015 11:24:15
Hi Ed002,

Given that the account has been deleted and the regular readers have suffered at the expense of a few. I think your message has hit people "loud and clear". Can we please resolve this situation, we'd love to have you back and we want to hear from you.

Cheers!

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{Ed002's Note - I am no longer providing anything on the MU page. Sorry - it is really not worth the grief.}

14 Jul 2015 11:26:24
great post GD. post of the year IMO

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14 Jul 2015 11:27:10
Completely respect your stance 002, its a matter of principle now, ed002 has said on more than one occasion they are not posting up or answering questions on here, I won't lie, the info was invaluable but as a man of principle myself I get 002's stance and trying to belittle that info with posts from 4 months ago is pretty petty.

No one thought BS, MS, darmian would sign 4 months ago!!!

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14 Jul 2015 11:27:47
Accounts, plural? Was he posting under more than one name Ed001?

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{Ed002's Note - Yes.}

14 Jul 2015 11:37:15
What's that? The minority spoiling it for the majority AGAIN.

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14 Jul 2015 11:37:34
It wouldn't surprise me if he was the beast as well lol only joking beast. I presume the 2 accounts in questions are just JuanMatasBeard and JMB.

GD, your post just made me laugh out loud in the office, I went with twonk but cock is much more appropriate.

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14 Jul 2015 11:39:22
I'll be the first to admit I am a tw@ at times but this guy was something else.
Well done to all involved in drawing a line and saying enough is enough.
Regards

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14 Jul 2015 11:39:49
I knew Jred and Deeps were the same person, didn't know they were JMB too! No one could have that much of a crush on Rooney without being one of the Rooneys or on a wind up!

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14 Jul 2015 12:10:04
On yer bike, JMB! (So long as it's not Ed002's Electra Indy!)

Glad Eds deleting accounts of numpties who ruin this site for the rest of us.

Completely understand Ed's principalled stance about not posting on here: why should they when all they get is grief?

Perhaps she might kindly consider returning here once more pruning of weeds is done, allowing the real flowers to blossom.

Ps thanks to all other Eds also who do such a brilliant job - very much appreciated.

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14 Jul 2015 13:01:36
Right, Ed002 isn't coming back, let's just accept it people. We here, as everywhere in society, have a minority on knuckle scraping Neanderthals, who can't help but f*ck it up for those who enjoy this place for what it is, and appreciate what all the eds do, not just 002. Maybe without ed002 to wind up, the amoebas will p*ss off and find the rock they climbed out from under, and at some point in the very distant future he/she may return, who knows. Let's just enjoy this place minus ed002, and if it ever changes then great.

That said, If ed002 is female, I will happily put off my meal with Ana Ivanovic, and entertain her instead, if it helps get her back by the end of the decade. If you are a fella, I'll get the beers/JD's in when I've finished with Ana :-)

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14 Jul 2015 12:46:09
Lol cocks not word for this joker. As ed says what a glifnard!

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{Ed001's Note - just to point out the other account was JGunner, not sure he ever posted using it.}

14 Jul 2015 13:55:00
Quality conlusion Brendan 😂

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14 Jul 2015 21:47:22
Thanks ed

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14 Jul 2015 08:33:44
Really happy with the players bought, believe we have one of the strongest midfield in England.We are just a cb and a striker away from battling for the epl title.
I see rival fans are getting worried and kidding their selves into believing our signings wouldn't walk into their team.
arsenal fans wanted schneiderlin but after coming to us they feel le coq is better player.
Liverpool fans feel milner is far better than schiwenteiger. lol
i personally think we have a superior team than arsenal and Liverpool and if all things go according to plan then we should challenge this year.
cheers everyone!

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14 Jul 2015 09:33:44
At least we all now know what JMB stands for - Just Moronic Behaviour.

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14 Jul 2015 11:44:26
The original post by ed02 simply says what interest and that he's making a pretty penny already.

At what point that warrants JMB's dig is beyond me, petty and pointless!

Things change quickly in football and I won't be holding the eds accountable for comments made 4/5 months ago.

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14 Jul 2015 08:16:47
All this talk of who we should have up front leads ,e to single out the only 2 options.

1. benzema is a beast,proven at the highest level, will score heaps in the EPL, and is possibly available.

2. The only alternative I can see is Kylie. She won't score many but the thought of her running around in tight shorts getting all hot and sweaty is enough for me. The fee might be a challenge but I think we should go for it.

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14 Jul 2015 09:38:00
I wouldn't fancy her chances when we play Chelsea with Terry marking her.

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14 Jul 2015 10:16:04
Option 2 definitely. Think I need a cold shower

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14 Jul 2015 10:24:47
You should be so lucky, lucky , lucky. Who knows though, maybe she will don a tight fitting United kit. Especially for you. :)

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14 Jul 2015 10:51:55
I saw her at Haydock recently and got within 10 yards of her, clearly the restraining order she took out on me isn't working. Be still my beating heart

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14 Jul 2015 14:36:11
And i thought i have issues

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14 Jul 2015 07:40:23
Really happy with the players bought, believe we have one of the strongest midfield in England.We are just a cb and a striker away from battling for the epl title.
I see rival fans are getting worried and kidding their selves into believing our signings wouldn't walk into their team.
arsenal fans wanted schneiderlin but after coming to us they fell le coq is better player.
Liverpool fans feel milner is far better than schiwenteiger. lol
i personally think we have a superior team than arsenal and Liverpool and if all things go according to plan then we should challenge this year.
cheers everyone!

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14 Jul 2015 07:54:23
Milner or schweinsteiger?
Hmmmmmm. Very very difficult choice.
On the one hand you have a guy who's won absolutely everything and is a living legend. On the other hand milner is easier to spell.

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14 Jul 2015 06:57:18
Just thorwing this out there. Would you have Rio Ferdinand back at the club as part of the recruitment team/ambassador.

A bit like what Zidane and Viera have done before coaching?

I think he would be great and get instant respect from players

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14 Jul 2015 08:02:17
Yes I would like Rio back perhaps even as a defensive coach. Rio is a class act, a couple of years ago I posted on here that Rio bought 4 seats as Season Tickets and gave them out game by game to people who otherwise would not have the chance to get to OT. Unheralded yet thoughtful, Rio is a United legend for me and would welcome him back

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14 Jul 2015 10:44:57
After the year he and his family have had I'd imagine he'll have a little break from any major work. But in the future I think it would be great to get him back in!

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13 Jul 2015 23:27:23
Wonder if Van Gaal will play Fellaini upfront?

He did say last season that he was a striker.

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14 Jul 2015 00:09:38
I think Fellani will be more of a plan B option next year JK92. He will get some game time in the cup games, but he will come into his own when we are struggling to breakdown the tighter defences in Europe or where teams come and park the bus. This may be from the left or latter stage as a centre forward / battering ram!

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14 Jul 2015 01:08:51
i agree, i can't see him getting in the midfield unless we have injuries or we come up against a physical side.

I think if we're struggling to break down some teams he will get put upfront with rooney and we will go all out crosses.

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14 Jul 2015 06:57:52
he should plan b are back up for injuries i will never play him if a team going to sit back cause we need mid who can move the fast .

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