Manchester United Banter Archive February 15 2018

 

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15 Feb 2018 22:27:41
Looking ahead to midweek and champions league game how did you think jose will approach the game.
Personally i think he will put in a 3rd midfielder and play sanchez left lukaku and mata on the right maybe jessie.
Its an away game and even though thier form is patchy they have a new manager and won't be easy opponents.
A win at the weekend would be a great way to go into this match.

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15 Feb 2018 22:36:35
Defensive, he will set up the team t not concede a goal and play counter attack. that's how we play.

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16 Feb 2018 09:51:18
4141 with Pogba as the holding midfielder. Smalling in defence.

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16 Feb 2018 11:56:00
Reman,

Not sure we play counter attack generally, maybe in the big games but that is the right way to play in them. We are organised but mainly control most of the possession in a game, it is just whether we can step up, hopefully the Newcastle result was the kick up the arse they needed to kick on now, the players are good enough they just need to show it.

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16 Feb 2018 16:32:14
GDS, what game do we play? What are our tactics? We seem to put 10 people behind the ball, play slow ponderous football, allow teams to have a go, not press the ball and never get out of 2nd gear.
But do we have a style of play? Do the players know what they're being asked to do? Not in a million years.
So we'll go out, try to defend and see what happens.

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15 Feb 2018 12:10:13
A lot of talk about the scouse front 3 of salah frimino and mane being best in Europe.
Who would of thought that at start of season .
We will have to solider on with Sanchez lukaku martial.
Things can change quickly.

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15 Feb 2018 12:39:11
Don’t worry next year is their year.

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15 Feb 2018 12:47:56
They are good, not sure about the best in Europe to be honest but all of them look great when in form and can cause problems for any defence.

Neymar, Cavani and Mbappe may have something to say about it though.

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15 Feb 2018 13:14:13
Gds
Neymar and co have scored 4 more goals than them .
All be it mostly in the French league.

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15 Feb 2018 13:36:48
The thing about the Liverpool front 3 is the work they do to get the ball back. They don't just sit there and wait for someone else to get it.

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15 Feb 2018 13:48:09
Salah has been a revelation he looks like he will score every game.

I'd still rather have Sanchez though 😊.

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15 Feb 2018 15:58:22
Definitely deano!

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15 Feb 2018 16:08:24
They need to win something to be considered the best.
Great interview with roy Keane today. He labelled spurs and Liverpool trophy haul in last 10 years 1 trophy between them as embarrassing for clubs their size and rightly said that for clubs their size to be labelled successful they have to be winning trophies as that's what big clubs are judged on. Taking part but not winning for tbe biggest clubs can only be seen as failure.
That gives you an insight into a winners mentality settling for 2nd best is not an option for real winners.
Smaller clubs have different targets where epl survival is considered success and rightly so but big clubs have to be winning trophies to be succesful.
Nobody will win every year but the years he won nothing were years that he never looks back on. You must aspire to win and if you don't you have failed so you dust yourself down and try even harder the next season.
Right attitude imo.

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15 Feb 2018 16:29:27
What size are spurs or Liverpool?
Up there with United Madrid Munich etc?
Good clubs with great tradition but
Spurs haven't won a title in 56 year,
And the scouse 28 year .
Great tradition tho
Behind city United Chelsea imo in the epl alone .

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15 Feb 2018 16:34:19
It's all about the future.

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15 Feb 2018 17:52:28
Sure is sepp. Past means nothing counts for nothing.

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15 Feb 2018 19:47:21
The Scouse look formidable atm which almost certainly means they will go and lose their next game.

While harry kane plays for spurs they always have the chance of beating anyone best striker in the world atm in my opinion but there is also the chance that they will lose their next game 3-1 with kane getting their goal.

We had a bad result against Newcastle who completely denied their foot of the table position to put in a performance that should see them in the top 6, also we were never at it in that game yet still managed to miss 3/ 4 chances that an 11 year old would have scored.

Pogba looked like he had a bad dose of man flu but instead of being able to see that with all of our own eyes we will go with the fact that he is just shite.

We are 2nd because that is where we deserve to be, we are the 2nd best team in England and that is fact I would LOVE to be closer to cpt pep and his incredible recovering superstars but the fact of the matter is we are and have improved I know this will irk certain posters but it is fact.

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15 Feb 2018 20:28:13
Deano,

Best post for ages mate, especially the bit about Pogba, te overreaction is madness.

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15 Feb 2018 21:10:35
I'm backing him to run the game in Seville.

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15 Feb 2018 21:20:24
I just don't think things are as bad as everyone portrays mate. I'm glad someone agrees 😊.

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15 Feb 2018 21:22:51
Agreed ken he is different class I sometimes think we can't see the wood through the trees every other player for every other team is better than what we have! It's bull.

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15 Feb 2018 21:34:51
Deano, my pizza loving chubby friend. Pogba has been pants recently but for most of the season he has been, at best ok. He needs to step up and be the player we think he can be. And yes, we may be second but it does feel like we are clinging on by our fingertips.

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15 Feb 2018 21:35:45
Deano
100% you would think we are mid table by some of the posts.

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15 Feb 2018 22:01:09
Arent we battling relegation?

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15 Feb 2018 22:19:35
I still think there is a lot more to come from the squad.
Can Jose find another gear.

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15 Feb 2018 21:45:25
The over reaction about pogba is far from madness, how long have we to wait to see this pogba that you are all talking about, I haven't seen it. The reason anyone pays the big money for players with the big wages is to boss the midfield, run the games, be head and shoulders above everyone else, granted not every game;boys you would want to come down to earth and be honest with yourselves. We blame Jose for not playing him in his right position or he needs another man in midfield all excuses. He has the pace power to boss the midfield but he ain't doing it for me. The jury is still out for me and he has a lot to prove, a show pony.

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15 Feb 2018 22:44:29
Seen a great video doing the rounds about pogba. Can't remember name of the guy but basically said everybody expects pogba to make passes like we busquets, score like lampard, create like de bruyne. 1 assist behind the best in Europe and missed 2 months. Thinks there is way too much expectation on him. Have to say he made a lot of sense.

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15 Feb 2018 22:52:05
I saw him play for juve and he played well. So do we make excuses for him every second week and say we expect too much.
I watched players like Robson Keane scholes, giggs proper players, playing for united and that's what I expect from one of the biggest clubs in world football. Ronaldo was a show pony but the boy delivered the goods.

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15 Feb 2018 23:24:08
Leahy i agree with some of what you say and i don't think you will get anyone disagreeing with you on his lack of awareness and concentration at times workrate.
But you said it yourself you saw him play well at juve. But he was playing in a different position tasked with a very different job. He seems caught in no mans land too often he is not comfortable in some games and it shows.
He never ran games at juve that was pirlos job why expect him to run games here. He needs more freedom to get around the pitch to create chances and drive forward. that's the player we bought but now he has an anchor around him in some games.
If you buy a player for what he is doing you expect him to play a hugely different role and see the same player.
As mad as it sounds i would even try blind in there alongside himself and matic.

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16 Feb 2018 00:32:05
We need a Scholes or Pirlo type player to dictate the tempo of games allowing Pogba to do what he does best. Carrick has been the closest to that in recent years and his loss is keenly felt. He was underrated by too many people. When I look at our 1st team squad and then go to the u23s downwards I don't see anyone there who is ready or might be in a few years to do such a job for us. For me it's imperative that we buy that type of player.

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16 Feb 2018 00:34:18
Something needs to change in there Ken, the boy has talent but the manager seems clueless or doesn't trust the other players around him or behind him.

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16 Feb 2018 01:21:02
Pogba wasn't juve best player, wasn't the best in the juve team never mind the Italian league .
Isn't France best player isn't the best in the EPL.

If the lad wants to be the best in Europe, he needs to improve.
He has everything ability wise and physically to be a top player not just a good one . Has he really got the desire?
Watch him live and he looks lazy . I was at the city West Brom game the other week and KDB is in a different league to pogba . He understands the game and what is needed to get to the next level, really gets the most out of his talent .
Play KDB out wide as a 10 or cm and he is class doesn't matter , top players usually are.
Pogba should be at that level, at the moment he is wasting his talent .
25 next month and we are still talking about potential or what his best position is .
If he can't play cm against Newcastle then there is no hope for the lad .

Time to stop with the excuses take it seriously and show the world what he can do .
Lot of hype round pogba, brand pogba has been well managed time to justify it .

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16 Feb 2018 04:24:56
I've said it a million times, but we have too many players that turn up one week then vanish for the next few. Pogba is chief among them.

For the past 3-4 years we have been full of praise for players like Valencia, mainly because he plays consistently pretty well.

I guarantee the next time Pogba turns up this page and press headlines will be over-hyping him again. He has the talent but lacks the mindset to be the best, can't teach what he lacks, you just hope it arrives and frankly I doubt it will.

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16 Feb 2018 07:03:51
I do agree on some of the pogba posts his application could be better as could his consistency, however we've all been watching football for a long time and we can all see a good player. Pogba is a good player make no mistake with potential to be the very best I would be careful what you wish for lads we will be worse off without him Mark my words.

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Review Of The Day 15th February 2018

15 Feb 2018 05:43:15
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