Manchester United Banter Archive January 15 2012

15 Jan 2012 22:10:57
Right a few things to comment on.

First the supposed mutiny about wages. I'm sure the wages are not the problem but the Rooneygate issue has just made us a clear target for this kind of hearsay when a contract issue drags on.

What I believe the case is;

Pogba- Playing time assurances.

Ravel- Behavior (missing training being the back breaker).

On yesterdays game.

Toni was class. Carrick and Rafa played well. In fact the team played ok overall and a job well done.

I'm glad people are off te sell Toni bandwagon. I think he is a brilliant winger and not because of the skills or that which normally expected of a winger but the fact he is so consistant with what he does do that it allows the strikers to play off that knowledge and target their runs or movements specifically. Like with Becks, Yorke and Cole knew where it was heading and the results are there to see. This is what Toni will have over Nani every day of the week for me. Imo that consistancy is what got Rooney all those goals 2 years ago and how we could of done with Toni last year, maybe Nani wouldn't have been so goosed by the end.

I won't even start on corners or free kicks I'm sure you all know my opinion on Nani (or Giggs) being involved with set pieces.

And that leads me on to what I would do with the team.

Out: Owen, Berb, Drinkwater, De laet, Evra, Rio, Giggs, Scholes, James, Diouf, Kiko, Park, Anderson and wait for it ......... Nani.

In: Promote W Keane, Tunners, Pogba, Ravel, Fryers and buy Izzy, Shakiri, Honda, Higuain, Hernanes + Subotic.

GK; DDG, Linders, Amos.

RB; Rafa, Jones. Cover; Smalling, Toni, Fletch.

LB; Izzy, Fabio. Cover; Fryers, Evans.

CB; Vida, Smalling, Subotic, Fryers, Evans.

CM; Carrick, Honda, Clevs, Fletch, Tunners, Pogba.

R+LW; Toni, Shaqiri, Young, Ravel.

CAM; Rooney, Hernanes. Cover; Honda, Ravel.

ST; Higuain, Welbeck, Chicho, W Keane.

Team;

-------------DDG-
-Jones---Smalls--Vida---Izzy-
--------Clevs----Fletch-
-Toni-----Rooney-----Shakiri-
----------Higuain-

------------Linders-
-Rafa--Subotic--Fryers--Fabio-
-------Honda--Carrick-
-Young----Hernanes----Ravel-
-----------Welbeck-

If only I was in charge eh? Haha.

Jono

15 Jan 2012 18:09:46
With that performance there is a good chance of Swansea finishing ahead of Liverpool.
Mike

15 Jan 2012 17:18:19
wanted to ask something. Whats the Gel kind of substance that arsenal used to smear on the shirt a couple of seasons ago ?

how is it helpful ? {Ed007's Note - It is Vicks Vapour Rub, it helps keep the airways clear and aids breathing during matches.}

15 Jan 2012 15:56:17
I think with signings we have to look at 5 main criteria:

1) Age, under 27?
2) Desire to play for us/loyalty.
3) Ability
4) Under £30,000,000
5) Value for money

So if you look at that criteria then you can rule a few players our, like Sneijder, he's pushing it now. I think between now and 2013 i expect to see players like these to come in (and out).

The players that i see will need replacing/leaving:

Giggs + Scholes + Ferdinand + Evra(this season or next)
Berbatov + Owen (this season)
Park (next season)
Diouf
Drinkwater + James + King (this season)

Positions that will need filling, adding to are:

CB (x1)
LB (x1)
CM (x2?)
Winger (x1)
Forward (x1)

So i propose these players:

Subotic - (Smalling is Ferdinands replacement, but Subotic is great and would fit like a glove).

Izaguirre - robust, good going forward and backwards - is like Valencia but at LB.

CM - Rodwell - been tracking him for ages.
Honda - creative, dead ball specialist (Asian market)

Winger - Shaqiri - great talent, plays everywhere.

Forward - Benzema / Higuain if possible (unlikely), so i'd go with someone like Huntelaar. Someone expereinced will be needed for me - maybe Raul.


That would leave us with an eventual squad of:

GK: De Gea, Lindegaard, Amos

Def: Rafael, Fabio, Izaguirre, Jones, Smalling, Subotic, Vidic, Evans Fryers.

Mid: Valencia, Nani, Young, Shaqiri, Cleverly, Anderson, Carrick, Fletcher, Rodwell, Honda, Pogba, Morrison.

For: Rooney, Chicharito, Welbeck, Macheda, Raul/Huntelaar.

RedDevil19

15 Jan 2012 15:17:12
In my opinion we need a LB, CDM, CAM and possibly a CB. Below is my opinion of who we could, possibly, get:
LB-Jordi Alba or Emilio Izaguirre

CB-Adil Rami, Neven Subotic or Mats Hummels

CDM-Jack Rodwell(although, i dont think he would be good enough) or Javi Martinez, Javier Mascherano

CAM-Eden Hazard, Mario Gotze, Luka Modric, Wes Sneijder, Nico Gaitan, Christian Eriksen, Mesut Ozil.

Murf

15 Jan 2012 13:54:16
Anybody else think it would be a waste buying a DM at the moment? With players like Tunnicliffe and Pogba (potentially) around, i can see it being only next season when they get first team games regularly. (Game every other week + substitutions)

15 Jan 2012 13:16:12
man utd to come under a full investigation on its misuse of old people , yes age concern has said its just ridiculous utd make the old folk go though this strenuous exercise each week and sometimes even twice a week in matches , this together with training everyday is just damm cruel , said a age concern spokesperson...............lfc

15 Jan 2012 09:01:40
Liverpool players have been warned they will be punished for time wasting if they give the ball to andy carroll.

Jamesmack8

15 Jan 2012 03:25:18
Blinded by beatin Bolton.
Rio,evra, scholes, carrick, plus giggs an park all over 30
Heart of team in decline an nought bein done
Youth ignored an dont buy cos no value or truth we are skint
Will Roy keane return next
Heading for big fall as form of old mob drops an no young players ready

15 Jan 2012 00:11:00
Ed, what is happening with Ravel Morrison? Fergie says he has requested high wages, while Morrison himself says he hasn't asked anything from United. Who is lying? Or is it Ravel's agent being a tw@?

G.A.G.U.S {Ed001's Note - I was told the issue was not about money, purely about his attitude. Perhaps Fergie is making excuses to rid himself of Morrison? I will have to check, because it could easily have been that it was his attitude over his wage demands that was meant. But, as the person who was telling me was referring to Morrison skipping training at the time, I assumed it was with reference to that at the time.}