Manchester United Banter Archive May 15 2013

15 May 2013 22:41:29
I don't think he believes he's bigger than the club. But he's been played out of position for two years now. He's hit a bad run of form, which isn't shocking considering he's not a CM, and he's been left out of matches or subbed in the second half. I have no problem with him wanting clarification about his role in the side, as he is a striker, and there are plenty of teams who would love to use him in his primary position. Anyone questioning his dedication to the club hasn't watched a match as he is a 110% player who tracks back, tackles and works selflessly for his team on the pitch. Whether its an official transfer request or just a desire for clarification of his future, I get it. The first time he was concerned that the team had fallen behind in transfer activity, which we all agreed with, and he was right and helped lead to Kagawa and RVP. This time I believe its that he will do his job wherever he is asked to play, he doesn't want the last years of his career to be an unknown, both in position and consistency of appearances. I'd feel differently if he was a Torres-type of selfish, one-dimensional player, but he's always done right by us on the pitch, and in both scenarios I can understand his frustration. First with the club ambition following the Ronaldo sale with no replacement, and now with the way he's been used so diversely but at great personal sacrifice in terms of form, reputation, etc. The man is a legend, should retire as a red, and I still think every last one of you wanting him sold is absolutely out of your minds. This isn't Nani or Anderson, IT'S WAYNE ROONEY! REMEMBER THE NAME! Just my opinion of course, but i'm not usually that unrealistic or sentimental. Cheers everyone, this site has helped a lot of us cope with the uncertainty of this past week. Seems like a bloody year since last week's rumor about a fergie announcement.

Here here well said the lad can become a legend at united so let's get behind him not slaughter him
BIGAL REDFOREVER

Great post mate, I feel disappointed that he asked about the transfer but you can see why, maybe moyes can make him stay and play him in his position!

15 May 2013 23:39:48
There's ways of doing things and he's done the wrong thing both times. Ok he questioned the ambition, so did all of us. But I actually think it was all about the money and when he got the cash and u turned he came up with this ambition thing as he knew it would save him with the majority of the fans. If he was worried about the ambition of the club was a transfer request really the best way of seeing how ambitious they were? It backfired on him as we signed two top class players who play in his position. His own lack of professionalism regards his weight has lead to him being subbed or dropped so that's his fault. He can't handle being dropped because of his ego, all this white pele crap and the rest of It, so instead of doing what most players would do and knocking on the boss' door and asking for a quiet word instead he's thrown a wobble and handed in another transfer request. Ok he did it in house and not running to the media. But Fergie made it very clear what he thought about how he's handled it, clearly blamed him for being unfit when he said a fit rooney wouldn't be subbed. Last time a lot of fans backed rooney. Now they don't. Last time him leaving would have been unthinkable. Now he's replaceable and argueably has been. There have been a few on here all season who have been saying he is in decline, the team needs to evolve etc etc and I have to agree with them. The transfer fee and wages along with the sale of others would pay for the rebuild and get in four or five players who would push us on to the next level. So from that point of view I say sell him. Thanks for the effort, the hard work, the goals, the memories. Shame it didn't work out in the end and you missed your potential. Good luck at your new club, preferably foreign. But good bye all the same. MrE

15 May 2013 23:46:49
How is he a legend? Edwards, Charlton, Law, Best, Robson, Cantona, Giggs, Scholes are legends. I'd put Rooney down a bracket with the likes of Bruce, Keane, Ruud etc. MrE {Ed007's Note - Keane?? Roy Keane?? That's a ridiculous statement.}

Best post I have read on the Rooney saga. People just want a scapegoat, some one they can insult and blame. Rooney loves playing for the club. I too will be passed if I was played out of position. Also people complain about his wages, but forget he carried the whole team on his back so so many times. Give the lad a break!

Rooney isn't the player he was three years ago. He's gone backwards consistently through that period, rather than forwards, including during the time when he was playing in his preferred position. He doesn't get played in his favoured position now because a) his performances don't justify it and b) he doesn't play to the team's game plan.

You can't blame his lack of fitness and his lifestyle on anyone other than himself. Giggs, Scholes, Beckham, Gerrard, Ronaldo, Messi, Zidane. Great players look after themselves. There's plenty of support structures in the modern game to help them. Rooney is as highly paid as he is - the best paid player in the club's history - because of the form and potential he was showing at the time he signed that deal. He now shows neither the form nor the potential. He is, like Nani, often thoughtless and lazy in possession. He is capable of being a really good player again - but only he can get himself back there.

Why is he being played out of position guys?? Because he fails to keep himself in the shape needed, he has lost his pace and his short passing and first touch are shocking.

I commend everyone for their loyalty but people need to open their eyes. He is a poor professional, if he had kept himself in shape like Giggs, Ronaldo etc he could have been amazing. Fact is he hasn't and it has impacted on his fitness and ability on the pitch.

We brought RVP in as Rooney isn't good/fit enough to lead our attack. Kagawa came in because his short passing and control mean that he isn't up to the needed standard to play number 10. He definitely isn't a CM so where do people see this supposedly world class legend playing?

We have to accept that he could have been amazing but his lifestyle has impacted hugely on his on field performance. I would have loved him to have been up with Messi and Ronaldo but he simply has never got to that standard when he should have.

Its a huge shame but now is time for him to move on.

Brendan81

God help me and give me patience lol.

The first time questioning our ambitions was only about getting a bigger contract and it is ridiculous to even think that he has influenced our decisions in buying RVP and Kagawa.

Are you trying to say some 27 year old scouser who frankly is not the brightest boy on the block is the driver of our ambition and that the greatest winning manager in British football history who has been obsessed with winning needed to be reminded off that, Absolute Crap.

Go back and follow the trail of his statements. 3 months ago says he wants to end his career at United and extend his contract. This time around it is again about the same thing, his agent wants to push us to extend his contract and we are unwilling to do so on the terms they want. There is a lot more to this than what meets the eye and he is no saint.

His form does not justify his demands and I love the double standards. On this basis we would be the village wh. re for every player to b. d us over.

The only way to deal with players who put demands on the club is to walk them out the door or we will turn into a Zoo like Real and City.

I would argue Pogba had a better case for more money and guarantees of playing time than Rooney does and if there was a mistake of letting a player go remember the name "PAUL POGBA".


Shahram

16 May 2013 13:14:50
Pogba was still following the Rooney example thinking because it worked once it would work again. Still better off without him.

15 May 2013 22:07:36
in
bale
lewandowski
baines

out
rooney
nani
anderson


i think this would be a good improvement if u disagree tell me why and what u think is going to happen {Ed004's Note - We would need a midfielder maybe 2 this summer especially if Anderson goes as Scholes just retired and Fletcher has injury problems}

Don't forget we have Powell
Dylan {Ed004's Note - Who has played what? Maybe 3 times for the first team this year. I'm hoping he gets games next year but Moyes only gave Barkley a couple this year. I reckon Powell needs a loan to a premiership side who play good football. Maybe Villa or Swansea but he would need to have garunteed game time imo}

Evra buttner fabio & Baines I make that 3/4 left backs.
Love your ins (hope that comes off)
Dylan

Powell off to hull season long loan

Pogba did the same but look how he's come on this season full international call up and probably stated 12/16 times at juventus
Dylan

15 May 2013 20:39:12
Whenever we talk about the ins on the website here, Strootman's name is the first on the list.
First on EVERYONE's list.
1. Is it really so much of a done deal.
2. Is he what we need? Not the style of play, the quality. Does he have it in him to run the midfield in England? {Ed004's Note - Yes I'm interested in the responses as well. He is always on my signings for the summer as Ed 2 says he is very likely}

He is not top of my list as I haven't seen him

It was concerning that Advocat, his manager, described him as being as good as Gareth Barry

I hope Fabregas is more than a rumour

Red Man

Not for me and I have said that many times. My concerns about him is that he does not have quick feet or pace and technically ok. He is decent all rounder but not great in anything specific. Kind of a little better than Cleverly. I would describe him as the poor mans version of Marchisio.

Shahram

15 May 2013 22:00:08
He's a strong all round midfielder, he could play in a midfield two or three, he can play as a defensive shield, a box to box player and as an attacking midfielder. He is also a leader on the pitch, and can control a game with his passing. His only real issue is a lack of pace, but this can be got around with good reading of the game.

There are a few more established/better?/or more well known players who I would pick ahead of him. My list would be Vidal as first choice, Gundogan as second and Witsel as third with Strootman as forth.

The problem is Juventus have no intention of selling Vidal and he is happy in Turin and doesn't wanna leave.

With Dortmund likely to lose Lewandowski and Hummels as well as Gotze, they will not let Gundogan leave this summer. And he is kean to sign a new deal.

Witsel only went to Russia last summer and if we were to sign him it would cost at least 25m maybe more which is too much.

Which leaves Strootman as the best alternative left available. Plus Ed002 has said that a move to United looks likely.

I would love to see him come in, but would like to see someone like Fabregas join as well to give us a really strong midfield. {Ed004's Note - I reckon a midfield of Strootman, Fabregas and Kagawa would be very good and possibly the best in the league but I worry about the wings massively then. I don't think any of our current wingers are good enough for Europe. I'd consider trying to get Di Maria or Ozil if Madrid are interested in Rooney tbh and then look at signing Rodriguez, Lamela, Sanchez or Isco as well}

Was Keane technically brilliant? Is Vidal? Strootman as a creative hub in the midfield, I'd certainly not have him ahead of Fabregas and Modric. But as an enforcer who breaks up play and distributes to the creative players, there aren't many better at the moment. For 15 million I'd take him for that. But it wouldn't solve our midfield issues.

Nat

ED004 LOL, that is some list you got. It would cost us over 100 million mate and not happening.

Shahram {Ed004's Note - I know}

16 May 2013 00:05:52
Hmmm i'm not sure we will sign any more wingers as such.

Moyes has always liked to used attacking full backs for width with more inside forward type players playing further forward. Valencia I think will be cover for Rafael, Nani will be sold, and Young will be a squad player. Which means if we are to playgonna need at least two first choice wingers as well as a couple of midfielders. We don't have the budget for that. I think we are more likely to play formations that don't require wingers and move into a more modern style.

Rafael and Valencia as well as Evra and Buttner are all great attacking options from the full back position.

I'd like to see us sign Strootman, Fabregas and Lewandowski. We could play Rvp, Kagawa and Fabregas in a three behind Lewandowski with Carrick and Strootman in the midfield, it would be a very flexible line up, with inventive and composed players. We'd still have Young Welbeck and Zaha on the bench to come on and provide extra width if needed.

15 May 2013 19:08:48
people going on who were going to be signing, istnt it about time to decide whos leaving?! maybe the players who don't get much game time; the likes of cleverly Anderson buttner, nani, even more so the loan players i. e macheda?

That's right, because no-one ever mentions who should be leaving.

Anderson - hmmm, surprised you mention him, but now you've brought it up I'm coming round to your way of thinking. I mean, he isn't always fit for every game of the season, is he?

Nani - wow! Quite a bold suggestion, but on closer inspection, when you look at his goals, assists and games started he also hasn't contributed much to the team these last two seasons. Good spot!

Etc.

Dodgy

There you go making me laugh again. How about Scholes as he's getting on a bit? Or possibly Bebe, who hasn't quite lived up to his price tag?

Bebe? No body puts Bebe in the corner.
;)

15 May 2013 23:49:47
Dodgy is having the time of his life I think. MrE

I'd sell RVP, Rafael, De Gea and Carrick.

15 May 2013 16:42:29
Surely with the new manager coming in who hasn't even finished his job at everton they can't possibly be any serious rumours about in's at united. Just baffling me why people keep asking the ed's if we're linked this this player or that player. Zaha is in and that's it so far. Anything that was building momentum has been scrapped now, in waiting for moyes to start. Stop asking, knowone know's anything yet.

Vim {Ed004's Note - There can be Vim The club have been scouting players all season and they will not throw that away at the last minute}

I think we are all hoping that because SAF has gone we will sign a really big name player. I genuinely believe we will and have already agreed terms. We are however a proper club who does its business in the right way showing respect to all concerned parties. It will also be good for Big D to have the stellar signing be announced on his watch.
Good things come to he who waits!
Matlock Red

A lot of the players we end up bidding for have been scouted for 18 months or 2 years. We wouldn't just screw up all that work for nothing and sanction moves for players we haven't watched.

I'm sure there will be many discussions between Moyes, our scouts etc. and even SAF this summer over transfers, probably/possibly already under way.

Then I'd expect Moyes to take more control going fowards, having more of an influence over the scouts and who we go for.

HBadger

I disagree. I believe we would scrap a deal if moyes was dead against the transfer.

Gav

I think Moyes will have to sanction the buys like any new manager as he will have to answer for how we do next year and that is very much dependent on our signings. He will not just go with Fergie and Martins scouting views and might want to play a different system or style.

I would say he has bought better than we have over the years given the budgets he has worked with. Read he has had an average budget of 3.3 million over the last 10 years.

The reason I rate him highly is that I think it is incredible to not be fighting the drop every year with a budget like that.

This does not mean he will veto all our targets but we might get a mix of some of the usual names that everyone thinks we will be buying and have scouted and a few surprises that he wants.

Shahram

No name, I agree with that but I expect him to follow through on most of our main targets. Wouldn't be surprised if SAF and Moyes have already discussed possible transfers TBH. Also, wouldn't be surprised if we've been preparing bids for weeks/months. Can't imagine him walking in and saying scrap all that, I'm going my own way. Just my opinion but I think this is partly why we went for Moyes, because he'd be willing to keep building in the same direction and even take advice in order to smooth over the transition from old to new.

Oops wasn't logged in for the post below Sharham's. I think my post answered your Q's to me too mate. I agree Moyes will block a transfer if he really doesn't fancy it but I just imagine a collaberative approach will happen this summer in particular as the transition happens. Like I said I wouldn't be surprised is they have already discussed possible transfers.

Possibly a mix will happen like you say but I don't see him coming in and blocking all the signings we've worked hard to line up.

15 May 2013 15:49:25
Why is there so much doubt surrounding Fabio, IMO he would be at the same stage as rafeal if evra left same time as oshea did for rafeal. He's just a few years behind IMO and I beleive this could be his year. I beleive he may look at his brother as a role model and follow the same attitude and drive to make it as he did and with rafa's help I think he will. He's already a massive fan of the club. What are everyone else's including the ed004's opinions on this as I know the majority of you want baines.

19JackC94 {Ed004's Note - I don't think he should be sold but if he is struggling to get into the worst team in the league he will not start here. I think he should be back up for his brother and we should sign a replacement for Evra like Baines}

15 May 2013 16:43:02
He can't stay fit enough to have an actual tilt at a first team spot. And it could cause issues keeping him as back up for his brother. Anyone who has a brother will tell you they would hate HATE to be their understudy. It didn't work with the Nevilles so I don't see it working with the the Silvas. He needs to move to a less physical league to give him a chance to stay injury free and get some games under his belt. Benfica or Porto would be an ideal place for him. {Ed004's Note - I've a brother who is nearly the same age as me and I'd be fine with the competition. Fabio seems to have a good head on him and would get plenty of game time}

You do realise he's not a leftback?
LP

15 May 2013 17:27:25
Ed004, in that case I would suggest that you are either confident that you have the beating of your borther or used to living in his shadow?

Fabio is the slightly older of the two, and has always been the more dominant one. As such I would find it strange that a professional competitive person would be happy living in the shadow of a person whom he has spent most of his life out shining.

Unless Fabio is going to be first choice LB with Rafael at RB, then I can't see it working long term.

Besides I don't think we can rely on Fabio being fit for when we need him, and he is too talented to spend his career sitting on our sub bench or on our treatment table. It would imo be best to let him move on and have a career in football.

15 May 2013 18:13:47
LP, you do know that Fabio made his name in the under 17 world cup for Brazil at. you guessed it left back. He won mvp in the competition and was top scorer with 5 goals.

Yes he can play at RB, and RW/LW if needed. But his favoured and primary position is LB.

Fabio is the better footballer of both of the brothers. However they play completely different positions. Rafael is a RB and only a RB whereas Fabio can play down either wing and AM. When he was playing with the reserves last season he mainly played at LW/AM as well as a bit of game time as a CM.

In my opinion we should or have been looking at playing the pair of them down the same side.

If we stick with a similar formation as what we have played this year then Fabio could be another option on the right with Valencia and Young and Zaha on the left. Obviously would prefer an established wide man from a top team such as Robben, Rodriguez, Di Maria etc. However it could be a viable option if the consistancy of our current wingers improves as they are good players and Zaha looks a good prospect.

Maybe Fabio could benefit from a good loan to a newly promoted/Championship side. He would deffinitely get regular football and when he, hopefully, plays well regularly his confidence may bloom and his ability with it.

Overall I think Fabio could be a great player for us but needs to be shown there is space for him to be able to reach his potential.

Paso

He should be tried out at left back and given loads of games next year all the Fa cup and Carling cup games for me and if Evra is injured or suspended if he dosen't make it after that let him go

16 May 2013 00:12:21
Its the Neville situation all over again. Phil was the better player technically and as such was able to play many positions, Gary was more limited but had more drive. He also had the luck that he didn't have competition for his place in the team. As such Phil had to move on to fullfil his career.

Fabio is the more talented of the two, but Rafael seems to be the more tenacious. But Fabio has competition for his place a LB which is limiting his game time, and we have better options than him on the wings or at AM. Plus he seems to be made of glass and get injuried to often. So he will probably have to move on to fullfil his career.

Ed004 - whilst Fabio is struggling to get in the QPR side, I know quite a few R's fans who can't understand why. Most of them think he's played pretty well but is prone to occasionally losing the ball softly (probably a sign of where he is with his development as a player). They think Harry's sticking with Traore because he's better defensively, although they don't all agree with him on that point. This is the manager who picks Bosingwa week in, week out, remember. {Ed004's Note - I thought he should be starting ahead of Bosingwa atleast though}

Ed004 - I agree. But the point I was trying to make (albeit poorly) was that Harry doesn't pick players on merit and never has done. He's historically favoured older players over younger, even when the argument for the younger player's inclusion is hard to resist. I don't think we can judge Fabio on his time working with Redknapp. I'd like to see him go on another loan - West Ham might be the sort of location where we'd really find out what he was capable of.

15 May 2013 12:43:05
Hi Eds, any news on any potential suitors or interested parties for Michu of Swansea and would Utd possibly be interested?

And at another angle would anyone on here want him at utd? remembering as well that he is naturally an attacking midfielder, maybe an option if Rooney was to go?

Obviously Rooney is a better player but possibly not much between them in that sort of role? {Ed004's Note - I don't think there is any Manchester United interest and I'm not sure he is what we need he is a very good player though}

I no its hypothetical but with the talk of Rooney going and Hernandez he may be an option.

15 May 2013 11:57:24
Anyone been impressed by Charni Ekagamene, he could have a future at the club, I hope he does!

Glad you spelt the name so I can just reply to it. He has come on in leaps and bounds in the last year and is one of the players who I feel could make it.

Obviously there is more to it than just being talented, he has to put the effort in and want to make it. As we have seen, this is not always the case with modern day footballers.

He looks really good, very tenacious and I like his simple distribution when he gets the ball. I think this lad has something about him.
Nomidfield

How old is he lads? Is he one of the older or younger boys in the U21's?

Cheers

HBadger

HBadger I think he's 19 made his reserves debut when he was 16! I think he has all the attributes to make it, could be the CDM we need! Reminds me a bit on tiote!

Charni made his debut as a 15 year old. If my memory serves me correct he came on against Arsenal U18's as a striker and put us 1. 0 ahead seconds after coming on. Pogba dominated Wilshere that game.

Sydney!

Cheers guys, I thought he was still quite young he just seems to be a youngster that has slipped through without much attention. Only seen him once or twice but he has a lot of attributes that would be handy in our squad! So hopefully he makes it. A loan next season will be essential if he's to make it IMO.

HBadger

15 May 2013 11:24:33
Hi eds,

How many MF's do you think we need to sign this year and who? Also who do you think will be on there way in/out?
For me Anderson, nani, young, Rooney out with strootman, Di Maria, Zaha (Obvs) Lewandowski in. Do you think we will sign baines with buttner there?

Welsh Red {Ed004's Note - I think what you said will happen and I think Baines will follow Moyes he has stated in the past he has to play at the highest level to get on the England team. Although I would prefer Fabregas/Gundogan/Modric to be signed as well}

If we could get Fabregas as well as the players listed above that would be an unbelievable summer!

Ed's / anyone, if all of the above where to happen how much of a net spend do you think it would be? (roughly)

RedDub {Ed004's Note - Possibly as much as 40-50 million IMO}

15 May 2013 14:20:33
I would say the four departures should generate £65m, while the five incomes (including Baines) would cost around £90m. Net spend of £25m. Another midfielder (Fabregas/Gundogan/ Modric) would cost another £25m.

Would be a good summer. Would be willing to sacrifice the extra midfielder and Di Maria to secure Bale or Ronaldo. {Ed004's Note - Who would people prefer from Gundogan, fabregas and Modric though. They are all similar except fabregas}

I think fabreagas would link up well with RVP, not seen a lot of gundagon tbh but I've ways thought Modric would suit us perfectly.

Welsh Red {Ed004's Note - I reckon as long as there is a Strootman/Bender/Wanyama/Vidal etc beside Fabregas then he would be fine in a midfield 2 but you need someone who is good on the ball but also excellent defensively beside him and preferable offers a physical presence like Yaya}

Ed004 - whichever one of them becomes available! All 3 are good players and would add something though like you suggest Fabregas doesn't tend to play as deep as what we need (would still be good replacement for Rooney though maybe).

I really doubt Gundogan will be available this summer so one of the other 2 more likely IMO.

HBadger {Ed004's Note - I didn't see much of Fabregas at Arsenal but did he not act as the deep lying playmaker and Barcelona signed him to eventually replace Xavi. My issue with Fabregas is that if Barcelona come calling again when Xavi retires he would just dump us without a second thought}

Thiago is earmarked to replace Xavi, not Cesc.

Sydney! {Ed004's Note - Cesc can still play the Xavi role though}

I personally would prefer gundogan with someone like classie or vilhenna playing next to him

19JackC94

Ed004, couldn't agree more and that is exactly where I'd expect him to play if United did sign him. I would expect him to sit next to Carrick.

Sydney! {Ed004's Note - So would Cesc be your preferred signing of the 3 mentioned? I would personally prefer Gundogan}

Sydney thiago is available this summer various reasons its been all over spanish papers

I would probably prefer Modric as he is world-class in that particular role. I doubt there is any player on this planet more equipped than Modric at sitting beside Carrick in midfield.

Sydney! {Ed004's Note - I agree but I see Gundogan as a younger version of Modric}

Ed004, I always wanted the younger player, but watching RvP this season has shown me that sometimes experience mixed with class is the better option. I think Carrick & Modric would be a sublime midfield with Kagawa tracking back at times. In a couple of years time there will be Powell/Januzaj/Pearson/Daehli to add to the mix. Cleverley & Jones to rotate with Mods and Carrick. It would be the midfield sorted IMO.

Sydney! {Ed004's Note - Yiu make a good point tho I would rather we went and signed Gundogan, Rodriguez and Ozil and possibly Baines. Only four signings that would improve out team drastically. Kagawa cutting in from the left btw}

Fabregas, Lewandowski and Bale with Nani and Anderson being sold. Also if Rooney is to be sold, I'd love to see the cash and a bit extra being paid to bring Ronaldo back. Would never happen but would be amazing

ALDUtd

Carrick and cabaye would be better syd. I've never been a massive modric fan.

Jono, don't rate Cabaye highly at all. Better than what we have got, but now good enough IMO.

Sydney!

15 May 2013 10:15:11
Morning Edds

What positions do you see us improving this summer?

Thanks
Richmond {Ed004's Note - Midfield}

15 May 2013 08:46:47
I might be clutching at straws but if I see a sequence of SAF comments and events :

SAF admits interest in Lewandowski

Lewandowski knows Manchester United already has 4 Strikers in their squad but would want to wait to know future of Hernandez and Rooney

SAF says Dortmund won't sell to Bayern Munich

SAF says out and signals to Lewy that he can make room for anybody here

SAF then publicly accepts Rooney has asked for a transfer. Signalling Lewandowski maybe room is being made for him

SAF also publicly says to have rejected that transfer request so as to keep Rooney's transfer price as much high as possible.

Is it just me or someone else also see a well planned out move in all of it.


Shaun

15 May 2013 09:15:13
I'm not 100 percent certain but I'm sure I read in the press and I know it was definately on the TV that the manager was a guy called David Moyes.

Not really sure how you missed that.

SAF still could of made transfer plans before hand.

-JakeW

No name, you do realise that SAF is still at the club and will be heavily involved in transfers this summer?

Sydney!

15 May 2013 10:36:02
As a director I believe Sydney! Not a transfer negotiator, how do you know this that you state as fact.

You really have to accept SAF is no longer the manager and Moyes is his own man. I'm sure if he needed any advice he'd ask.

Do you really believe some one like Moyes is going to have his plans mapped out for him by others.

No name, yes Moyes is his own man but it would be foolish of him to not carry on the work the club has been doing in the transfer market. He can bring his own targets but he shouldn't banish the club's long term targets.

Nat

15 May 2013 11:49:48
Nat,

I totally understand that Moyes maybe in agreement with certain targets, but not necessarily all. Do you not think he will talk to certain players such as Nani and Anderson to see if there is anyway forward with them first?

He is the boss, the club like SAF said have to give him both time and support. Not run the team for him.

No name, you can bet your bottom dollar that this summer's transfers will already be mapped out for Moyes. Moyes will have an input of course, but United already have their targets in place. That has been confirmed. I wouldn't be surprised if one or two players arrived before Moyes takes over as manager. SAF has confirmed that in December he decided to retire. We we bought Zaha in January. Do you think Moyes had any input into that transfer?

Sydney!

No name who is the manager at this time? Don't forget transfers take time and any the club wanted before Moyes takes over he will get

15 May 2013 00:52:06
Giggs to become player/ coach and act as moyes 'link to the dressing room'
well that so called secret meeting between giggs, moyes and SAF looks to have been cleared up, apparently meeting took over an hour and a half. I wonder if rooney came up at all lol

dags