Manchester United Banter Archive November 15 2018

 

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15 Nov 2018 21:45:00
Right iwill say it, Rooney has been amazing any chance in Jan ed 😂.

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{Ed025's Note - no deano, but he is the best player on the pitch by a distance mate..

15 Nov 2018 22:04:13
Still got it, nice to see.

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18 Nov 2018 23:08:36
Did he find it again jred? 😂.

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15 Nov 2018 17:09:09
So who's going to be sponsoring VAR? got to be an electronics company right?

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15 Nov 2018 17:52:31
Carlsberg.

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15 Nov 2018 19:50:22
Vladi.

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15 Nov 2018 19:55:27
Specsavers?

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15 Nov 2018 20:53:57
Abu dhabi.

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15 Nov 2018 16:39:50
VAR to be used in premier league from 2019-20,too much of Technology is going to kill all the fun.

Anyone agrees?

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15 Nov 2018 17:12:49
Nope, anything that can improve the quality of officiating is a huge benefit, unless you think the current standard of officiating is good enough?

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15 Nov 2018 17:20:12
Var will improve the game 100% just give it time.

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15 Nov 2018 17:47:51
I think its a big step forward for the game as a whole.

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15 Nov 2018 19:33:17
I never understood the argument they used to put forward for not introducing technology into football at the highest level. When they said they wanted to keep the pinnacle of the game as close to grassroots as possible.

As if when I used to play at the park or on the common used to be anything like the pinnacle of the game.

We never had enough players, we had no officials, no kits, no pitch markings, no goalposts. Just a ball, half a dozen lads and jumpers for goalpost. We tended to play games of two a side with one goal and one keeper and all sides shooting at the same goal.

I would love to see that format for the world cup final.

In modern football, we have sports scientists working on getting the most out of players, video replay, satellite tracking, dieticians, world class doctors and surgeons, pitches with undersoil heating, groundsmen maintaining the playing surface within very strict parameters, the pitches themselves are as high tech as my first PC.

Millions, billions of pounds spent to take every aspect of football the the peak of its existence.

Yet we still expect a referee to manage with no new tools to help him in over 100 years. Whistle, cards, notebook, pencil and coin.

In the times it taken him to sort out any on field issues the rest of the world have been privy to 4 or 5 replays from varying and in many cases impossible angles for an official to see from, slow-mo and the latest in computer software to check what is still unclear to the named eye on a slow-mo replay.

If we have access to all this technology then why shouldn't the man in charge of making the key decisions have it?

Its ridiculous that it's taken this long to introduce it in football. They have had it in rugby for many years. And they have managed it on a 20th of the budget that football has.

The problem of course is that football is run by the same group of dry dusty old white upper class busy bodies for the last 50 years. People who see the past in sepia blurred nostalgia. Who have spent the last 50 years trying to get football back to what it used to be, while selling it's soul for as much as they can grab and stash away for themselves.

Apparently EPL clubs have been asked to donate 250k each to Mr Scudamores golden handshake. That's a total of 5m.

These old codgers have kept football, especially English football stuck in the past rather than embracing the future.

The introduction of VAR is a much welcomed step into the future.

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{Ed025's Note - cracking post that shappy mate..

15 Nov 2018 21:19:34
It will obviously make it more stop start and it will still be full of mistakes because it will still be interpreted by the same officials.

I don't think it will work, but we'll see.

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16 Nov 2018 00:03:08
VAR is a step in the right direction, however, to leave it as the referee's choice is the wrong way to go about it the decision should be with the team to appeal to use it. 1 per half for each team, if unsuccesful then they will lose the appeal.

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16 Nov 2018 01:02:22
All the other major leagues in Europe are already using it this season and it was used at the world cup. For a league that promotes itself as the best in the world to be behind everyone else is poor. So many more decisions will be called correctly.

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{Ed007's Note - Wasn't the head of VAR in the Bundesliga sacked over match-fixing?}

16 Nov 2018 01:26:04
Have you ever watched rugby when the TMO takes waaaaay too long to figure out the answer. Or when they give a decision and the crowd have no flippin clue why?

It is painful.

I'm all for giving it a go. But it may take even more soul out of the game. I just hope they use it for "Clear and obvious" and don't start trying to solve the millimetre decisions of offside.

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17 Nov 2018 18:08:49
VAR - it’s a no from me.

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17 Nov 2018 18:37:18
But wrong decisions and contraversey are great. They add drama and history to the game. Making the game more clinical makes it less interesting.

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15 Nov 2018 16:07:52
Can we talk about Jose Mourinho's player of the year from last season?

Scott McTominay, where has he gone?

I thought Mourinho was holding Scott up as proof that he can bring young players through and develop them.

Yet this season he is behind Matic, Pogba, Fellaini, Herrera, Fred and Andreas Pareira.

So is he this great young player Mourinho has moulded, or was he just the stick used to beat Pogba with by our manager?

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15 Nov 2018 16:44:18
Everything comes down to our defenders finally, SAF once said " Defense will win you titles", and now we know why.

Our defenders have zero confidence when they have the ball, we start poorly from the back and the same is matched upfront by or Strikers.

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15 Nov 2018 17:31:40
Footballers are on the whole confidence sportsmen. When their confidence is high they perform well, when it is low they struggle.

Players are also more sensitive now then they were in the 70/ 80's, probably because they aren't in a constant state of inebriation now.

As such when your manager constantly tells the world press he wanted to sign a new defender because he doesn't think the ones he has are good enough it is likely to erode their confidence some what.

Also there seems to be something strange happening between Mourinho and Bailly. Bailly is our best defender and yet he can't get a game. He has had one or two below par performances recently, yet he seemed out of favour prior to those poorer performances.

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15 Nov 2018 18:37:01
Shappy

Using McTominay as a stick to beat Pogba?

Not that you are trying to use McTominay as a stick to beat Mourinho of course, but I seem to recall McTominay had a period of injury and without checking I think wasn’t availability until at least the Juventus game, no idea if fit now. If Mourinho praises a player it is a stick for Pogba, if he criticises he is knocking their confidence, if he says anything about anyone it’s wrong, insert insult.

If defenders fall apart at a bit of criticism then they are not for Manchester United. Something strange happening with the Manager and Bailly, really? Perhaps Bailly just isn’t concentrating, maybe there is something else in his life taking his focus away. One or two below par performances, seriously? No, he was plain awful more than once. Quite rightly you have to earn your place, he is paid and should be chomping at the bit.

This isn’t just about confidence in defenders, hence it’s Mourinho, sorry nasty Mourinho who has taken all their confidence away, it’s about leadership and quality and our central defenders lack it. I don’t see Real Madrid knocking on the door for Smalling, Jones, Rojo, Bailly and co, there is a reason, they are not leaders on or off the pitch.

I recognise your anguish, I felt it every day with Moyes, yet there was no CV or honours there to back up the appointment. I think we have to suck up the poor time at the moment, the Exec VC should ask for the Managers plans, appraise them and decide support or sack. Support and he gets the players he wants in summer and stays next season. If not he has to go, but that will bring about a world of pain right now because we have no direction and we could speed off over the cliff, whilst our opponents laugh and toxics start all over again.

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15 Nov 2018 19:30:11
Really good post redman.

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15 Nov 2018 20:28:02
Did ed not say he was likely to go out on loan.

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15 Nov 2018 22:42:38
I think he needs to go out on loan to get some game time. He did well at times for us last season without ever being standout. He has a lot of good attributes to have a good career.

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15 Nov 2018 23:12:08
Ken
I'm not convinced to be honest, if he goes out on loan in Jan I would be pleasantly surprised to see him back at United.

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16 Nov 2018 08:36:28
I agree jred. I think he has some good attributes and can have a good career but i'm with you i don't think it will be at united but who knows.

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15 Nov 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 15th November 2018

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