Manchester United Banter Archive August 16 2013

16 Aug 2013 22:29:31
Mick,

I've been meaning to reply to your reply to my post all day, unfortunately we are a man down at work and I have to make up the slack so have been monsterously busy all day.

But here goes. I kind of agree with our poor pairings at centre back. But I do feel the old fashioned idea of beauty and the beast has evolved some what in recent seasons. Certainly more so in europe though than it has in the premier league. I think there is no place in european football for uncultured footballers at the highest level, by that I mean all players now need to be able to play football and pass the ball and retain possession. Including defenders, so although I think you still need to have a strong physical defender it is equally important that that defender can be useful with the ball at his feet.

I think last season we suffered when Vidic was out dur to the fact that none of our other defenders are aerially as dominant as Vidic. Jones will get there, he has the physicality but he needs to learn the art of positioning and timing your leap which are just as important as strength if you are to be aerially dominant.

I also agree that we dropped too deep due to a lack of pace in our centre backs. That I think can be sorted by having a DM who is able to drop back and help out and by not having our full backs commit themselves so high up the pitch. that's not to say that we don't get them to attack, but they need to learn to be more disaplined in doing so. I would suggest they learn to be more spacially aweare and instruct them so that only one full back pushes forward at a time. That way we will always have one full back to help out covering in case of a counter attack.

As for Alex Sandro and Coentrao. Both are very good players, and both would improve our defence. I would worry about Sandros ability to adapt to the prem, although it shouldn't be too much of a problem. And for some reason i've never been totally convinced by Coentrao, he is obviously a talented player. But at times he tends to go missing, and he has a habit of running down blind alleys.

If we were to move for a ready made replacement for Evra rather than signing a young player and moulding them, then for me I can't look any further than Filipe Luis who is a solid defender both in his reading of the game and his aplication of his physicality, but its his clever and incisive passing going forward which makes him a genuine attacking threat.

As for Nemanja Matic i've never been impressed with him when i've watched him. He is fast and strong like you said but for me his reading of the game let's him down. He makes very few interceptions and mostly charges around akin to a bull in a china shop.

Milan Badelj on the other hand has impressed me greatly everytime i've seen him, although he has on occasion been marginalised in some of the bigger games. But he is still learning and is offered little help from his midfield team mates. If I was looking for a replacement for Carrick then he would be right up high on my list, but he does have a keen attacking instinct and likes to push forward alot.

My hope was to release Carrick from his defensive duties to enable him to focus on his creative side. I feel Badelj wouldn't give him that release as he likes to do most of the attacking in midfield. If Hargreaves had never had his injury issues he would have been the perfect partner for Carrick, that's why I was so suprised that Sir Alex never moved for a similar player when it became apparent that Hargreaves was never going to recover fully.

Lars Bender would also be a good option to partner Carrick, but he will cost a lot of money.

I too like Lamela, but I fear he will always be a pipe dream due to his ownership issues. Willian would be a very good option to replace Rooney if he left. But if Rooney was to go I would be inclined to move for a creative player who is creative through his passing more so than his ability to run around or past players. Imo we have Zaha Valancia and Nani who are all excellent at getting around or past their man, but only Kagawa and to a hit and miss extent Rooney who can use their vision and passing to open up teams. And with Rooney possibly leaving that would just leave Kagawa. In an ideal world if Rooney was to leave i'd love to see us get Mata as part of the deal if not then Kevin De Bruyne is a player I rate very highly and would want as part of the deal. there's also rumours that Xherdan Shaqiri is available who would be a great choice also.

But i'll be honest i'm starting to question whether Rooney will be sold this summer. At the start of the summer I was convinced he would be moving on, but I am a little less so now. My worry is we keep him and he really wants to leave. Then he leaves next year with just a year left on his contract for significantly less than we could get this summer. My main worry with this is the two players who'll suffer most if he stays are Kagawa and Hernandez, i'd hate for them to become unsettled and maybe lose them as well as Rooney next summer. Then we really would be up the creek without a paddle.

Shappy
Your not Harry Rednapps agent are you? Your is cup of tea mate, are we in such a need of major change?
SAF believes he's left the club with the squad at its strongest with quality youth and experience something Sir Matt didn't do.We need at best 1/2 top quality signings players that would have an impact on the squad, players like this are very rare Ronald, Messi, Iniesta that calibre are probably not available but your suggestions as good as they seem wouldn't improve us but slow down or hinder Powells, Januzaj, Lingard, Jones Will Keanes etc.progress and that's our future not Harry Rednapps way here today gone tomorrow now clean up the mess I've made.Our club is so well geared up to challenge on all 4 fronts its so exciting, let the pundits forecast a 3rdor 4th place they've no idea this squad is ready to blossom and prove everybody wrong.
Dylan

2 smart, positionally sound and physically capable defenders seem to be the new modern partnership and it works quite well but I went with the tried and trusted but I still think every defense should have a Vidic or a Terry in it but that's just my opinion.

If we are looking at a capable passer than why not Eriksen? He has fantastic vision but he seems to go missing at times. At 21 years old, that should be fixable. I'm not too convinced about his ability to make it in the premier league but there are not many better options out there.

My favourite midfield addition would be Sandro. I think heis one hell of a player and will reach great heights if he manages to stay injury free but I think it's unlikely spurs would be willing to sell and even if they are, it would take a lot of money and he'd b a pretty risky signing.

And I too think we should be guetting a defensive midfielder to release Carrick but with him turning 32, I think it would be unwise not to start looking at a younger replacement unless the likes of Petrucci and Ben Pearson highly enough to give one of them a chance .

17 Aug 2013 10:47:00
Dylan, i'm saying we should be looking at 2/3 new players at most. Two if Rooney stays, three if he leaves. I'm merely discussing the many different options available to us.

Mick, I agree that its always nice to see a battler such as Vidic in your defence. But there's no reason why that battler can't be good on the ball as well. Mamdou Sakho is a good young example or Kurt Zouma. Subotic would be a good option if you were going for a slightly more experianced option.

I've never rated Eriksen that highly, I don't think he or anyone knows his best position yet. And as you said he does go missing too often.

I agree that we need to be looking for a potential long term replacement for Carrick, but I feel that could wait a year and be brought in next summer. Players I feel could be good options are Koke, Kovacic or Verratti spring to mind. Or maybe even Ander Herrera if you were going for a more moble playmaker which abit more experiance.

A battler who's good on the ball, both Jones and smalling could be that man .

We conceded to many goals in the first half of the season but during this time we had a few injuries in defence Carrick even had to play cb also ddg was till finding his feet.

Second half of the season with ddg looking confident And a more settled back 4 we conceded far less goals .

Vidic ferdy, smalling Jones and Evans I think we will be fine this year for cb maybe get a new one next summer
Jred

17 Aug 2013 12:48:52
I agree Jred, I don't think we need another CB. As for maybe needing one next year well imo that depends what kind of season Rio and Vidic have. But I have high hopes of Micheal Keane making it at the club, hopefully Vidic can get back to his best and Evans, Jones and Smalling all have good seasons then we can let Rio leave and replace him with Keane.

16 Aug 2013 21:12:06
Does anyone know another football streaming site now that firstrowsports has been closed down? Cheers.

Welsh Dragon

Wiziwig

USA goals

RED DEVILS

Does wiziwig work in europe? you can try

Usagoals is a really good one mate

Myp2p

Thanks I'll try them out.

Welsh Dragon

Mate, sky is free all day tomorrow on Pick T.V, you can even get it on freeview and the game is on.

Ronaldo7 always puts on good links for the big games while USA goals and Wiziwig have many more matches on them. All 3 of these sites work in Europe

NBC took the rights from espn and fox to the EPL. They will broadcast every single PL game live. After suffering for years watching choppy streams of matches at 7 am are no longer. HD every match on my big tv or on DVR if I want to sleep in. The years struggling and sacrificing as a New York based united supporter are over. Still can't believe tv restrictions are needed to ensure the stands stay full in Britain. In other words come visit New York, well have some beers and watch united in a quality environment with other true supporters. Open invitation. Especially the editors. Least I could do. Here's to an amazing season.

16 Aug 2013 19:13:51
Just a thought when Moyes say we are working on several target's do any of the eds believe we are speaking with player's or still at the fee negotiations stage with clubs
Thanks in advance {Ed007's Note - It will be agents that are doing all the work just now, the fee with the selling club can be the last thing agreed.}

16 Aug 2013 19:51:13
new poster on site it worries me that a lot of the younger posters have no real reality of what it is like
to support the reds I go back to the early 70s when we used to be caged in at the Stretford end after being there all morning to pay at the gate like others have posted a good f a cup run was the highlight of the season relegation then followed but boy didnt. the doc give us a team to watch the most exiting team I think I have had the pleasure to watch the 80s came and Dave sexton and big Ron and still the highlight was the f a cup. then of course the late 80s and the boss came slow start for him but the old favorite the f a cup started it for him the rest as they say we all know is history.
my point is people who have not been through all this and know no different have been. spoilt and it is now expected to win every thing each year sign big names etc .
just remember we are a proud club with no divine right to win trophies year in year out yes it is nice don't get e wrong
all I am saying is this season get behind Dave and the boys if things don't go too well don't slag them off give them the support they need. and don't forget we have been so so lucky to have had what Alex. brought to the club if nothing this year fine it will b a transition season but like I say get behind the boys they would all die for the shirt well perhaps not Wayne
here's to a great season {Ed007's Note - Are you related to KLOOT by any chance? Welcome to the site buddy.}

Also new poster - first went to OT in 1962 - and I was there every home match the season we got relegated & every match in the old 2nd division - what a season that was - visiting places like York City - great days - those days a trip to wembley was all we dreamt off (I try and forget the Southampton final) - and trips to Europe were very few - I did 3 - Ajax, Juventus & Ostend as a friendly (I never saw the match but that's a long and funny story) - anyway we do not have a right to win things every season & have been look to have had Sir A for so long - so get behind the team this season & especially David Moyes & show everyone what great supporters we are

As a young fan myself, I get your point, since the worst years for me were the Arsenal invincibles followed by Chelsea, and that only lasted 3 years. Other than that, my time as a fan has been plain sailing.

Big Jim Holtons after you

Good post IMO.

Although I'm one of the new breed, having been a 'fan' since 91/92 and only really known success, I'm old enough and wise enough to know that we have no divine right to win things. Especially nowadays with all the money being thrown away by other, non self-sufficient clubs. To combat this we have to look to the long term, with a manager who will look to stick around, a continuity of staff and set up and bringing youth through when we can.

Let's all get behind the manager and the team whatever happens. Hopefully we can get 1 or 2 good purchases and put a real push on this season. But most important is that we are there or thereabouts for the foreseeable future on a regular basis. Consistency is key for us I think.

Good post. Unfortunately, the 'youngsters' have only known success (that's not a criticism) so have not experienced the many years of no trophies / poor football (Sexton) some of us have. A lot of people will remember 1992 and losing out to Leeds but how about 1985 when we won our 1st 10 games under Big Ron. We won 13 of out 1st 15 games, but then only won 9 of the remaining 27. united never recover and that was the end for Atkinson.

On a similar point, I'm not sure the thrill of winning is quite what it was for me as the expectation is now so much higher. Rarely are we underdogs - beating Liverpool in finals and semi finals when they were ruling the roost was very sweet. Seeing Barcelona off with Maradona was incredible. Yet now I find myself less excited. It was great that we won the league last year but for me it was fairly flat. Perhaps it's just me

Ajh
It's a really good point that, for me a lot of the excitement has gone out of the games when you just expect to win or even know it's no big deal if you loose as you will win the next one or 5
Jred

Good post Big Jim I agree with all you say, I also travelled the coutry to watch the boys in the second division - York City away was memorable! I worked in Liverpool throughout the 80s and had to take merciless stick from the scousers but the level of success we had in the head to head matches with them made it all worthwhile.

So I agree, if it doesn't come together immediately with the new management team just stick with them and remember that SAF had a torrid time when he first arrived (who can forget Ralph Milne) and look what happened then.

16 Aug 2013 19:14:17
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Last day to join guys!

TQred

16 Aug 2013 13:40:45
Cant we sign in for the site when using mobile site?
I am using my phone for that but no option available for that.

Chaman

{Ed033's Note - try the mobile login page

Yes you can - it's really good too as it keeps you logged in! Great work eds! {Ed007's Note - Cheers DB.}

16 Aug 2013 18:22:03
Seen a couple of people ask for the code for the Premier League Fantasy Football so here it is:

15522-6942

TK-Red {Ed007's Note - Good man TK.}

Cheers TK.

16 Aug 2013 15:37:45
hi if any of the eds are round can u please put me and all of utd fans at ease and tell us if we will sign anybody with 2 weeks to go its starting to get nervy because all the other sides around us have signed decent players we need 2 midfielders dats a fact and maybe a left side winger I think we are alrite at the back and upfront that's if rooney goes which I hope he stays because he looks like he is after loosing a few pounds and he prob will get 20plus goals this season. just one more point if anyone would agree with dis what bt given RVP the number 7 shirt I think he would be a good player to wear it. modric fellani and di maria would be my 3 signings that would be a great window {Ed007's Note - I'm sure there will be signings before the window closes. Chillax.}

16 Aug 2013 17:53:32
Just a post let let everyone know that Valencia giving up the number 7 shirt has nothing to do with Ronaldo coming back.

Can't believe how many posts I've seen about Ronaldo coming back because of Valencia giving up the number 7 shirt.

Come on fellow Mancunians. Don't get all deluded like the scousers!

16 Aug 2013 17:03:27
Can someone tell me what the hell the manager of Manchester United is doing acting as a TV pundit. For a meaningless game between two very average teams. Are United not paying him enough so that he has to supliment his income. He has nothing better to do at United. It's an absolute disgrace, did you ever see Jose or Sir Alex sat there looking like a gormless sea horse with a thyroid problem. Someone needs to sit him down and explain that this is the real thing he has the job and he needs to pull his finger out and start acting like our manager

Is that a delayed reaction or have you run out of things to moan about?

I did think to myself there is no way SAF would've been a pundit. Hopefully it's not a regular occurance and was just down to him agreeing to do it before he got the United job. Although he still should've cancelled.

Ben

I don't often agree with Kloot but I'm with him here. I'm sure we would've been less pssd off about him sitting there if he had already delivered something in the transfer market, part of his REAL job, for which he earns millions.

16 Aug 2013 18:32:15
Maybe it was decided in order to control the inevitable Rooney debate.
Get a life.

Whistler.

Why does Moyes have to follow the grain? He is his own man. Maybe he just enjoys watching football.

I admit it felt strange as we're not used to it with SAF. But like George says DM is his own man and has his own views, maybe he thinks having better PR will be beneficial for the team in some way? It certainly won't be about money for DM because he's on more money than he ever earned, that's a silly theory IMO.

In short, although I found it strange to watch, I think you are just getting your knickers in a twist - as usual.

SAF did do similar work, he gave them all a chance press included until they spoke out of turn then he'd use it against them banning the tv and numerous press people surely Moyes is allowing them this chance and when they start with their games then he will respond in the same way.
Kloot anything positive to debate about our great club does our manager not have a right to be in the studio and in someway have control over the Rooney and Utd issues which could spiral out of control.
Dylan

16 Aug 2013 15:55:29
Just been reading "caughtonsh1te"- apparently the president of the LFP in France has said that Monaco should have to pay the %75 tax rate the same as the other clubs to make it fair. This could mean some of their big name players i.e falcao, already looking for an exit. Not sure how true but if it happens than congratulations to Frederic Thiriez, for being the first in the world to make a stand about how money is ruining this sport. On a side note if its true then does anyone think we would put in a bid for falcao, if Rooney were to leave?
Jase

A player can only move once in the window?

The Lawyers are going to have a field day with this one. I wouldn't touch Falcao without carbon dating him ;) Just looked it up, and apparently one can you can move twice in the window, just not in the same league. {Ed004's Note - Id love to move for James Rodriguez}

Technically, you can't carbon date a living being. just saying

Technically, it was a bit of a joke.Just rebuffing ;)

Anything that doesn't make sense doesn't have to be funny, just like the OP, No way Monaco would let Falcao leave, they have all the money in the world to increase his wages plus no club is naive enough to buy players for 60 odd million and sell them because of higher taxes in the same window.

16 Aug 2013 15:13:19
Sun dream team

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Also, does anyone have the details for the other sun dreamteam league? Gagus? Anyone?

Cheers

16 Aug 2013 14:58:19
www.dreamteamfc.com/
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Starts tomorrow, so get signed up.

Signed up last week mate. never did a Dream Team before, I must say though I do like my team! {Ed007's Note - GAGUS, is there not a league set up on the EPL site instead of of one in THAT paper?}

Are you questioning me Bond? {Ed007's Note - I'm questioning your fantasy football patronage. Next you will be sitting watching Sly Spurts News all day waiting on the latest odds of Shnyder signing!}

16 Aug 2013 14:23:47
I don't think we will sign Fellaini, I mean surely we would have already if he was a target for moyes.

16 Aug 2013 13:57:30
Official squd numbers released earlier and interestingly there is still no number 7

JS

16 Aug 2013 13:44:46
Where's this signing that Moyes hoped to have in by "the start"

also why was his press conference cancelled?

was it anything to do with new players?

and finaly where the f**k is woody woodpecker?

graham googoo-elbeardo
Manchester

There was no press conference. He did his pre match briefings at the launch of the premier league 2013-14 yesterday.

16 Aug 2013 13:25:00
Manchester United have officially released there squad numbers for next season and Antonio Valencia has returned to his previous number .25, leaving the number 7 shirt vacant, surely we wouldn't play a season without the famous number 7 shirt?

15 Aug 2013 21:41:26
Not at all football related sorry, but a quick message to one of the eds, I can't remember which one sorry, on your advice I googled the Disney deception you mentioned a few weeks back, all I've got to say is WOW! Very very interesting, I recommend reading it to anyone.
Jase {Ed007's Note - That was me Jase and you're welcome. You should have a look at our conspiracy talk site, there is always some interesting stuff posted on there:

www.talkconspiracy.co.uk/

Will do thanks ed!
Jase

16 Aug 2013 12:28:31
I wonder if Chelsea get Eto'o, will Rooney then come out and say he never wanted to leave?

On a more positive note was reading a couple of websites who say we could raid Real Madrid for up to 3 players, ozil, modric and Coentrao.
Interest in Baines is gone (thankfully) but Fellaini still and option.

16 Aug 2013 12:24:04
Khedira's agent says the player won't leave Madrid. where does that leave Modric? Or would Alonso leave? I think Modric is attainable, not so sure about Ozil though. I also like Fabio Coentrao, would certainly be an upgrade on Evra. I hope we bid for any or all of these players except Alonso.

15 Aug 2013 21:58:35
Hey edd love this site appreciate all your work! been Uzi g this site for about a year now and rarely comment was just wondering if you knew who phil Neville and Steve round were watching at the Portugal match ps I tried to register but kept sayi g email was invalid cheers edd {Ed004's Note - I have no idea hopefully to watch Ronaldo but I doubt it. Maybe Coentrao if he was playing}

Obviously not Ronaldo ed. It would be an insult if we needed to scout Ronaldo don't you think?

16 Aug 2013 11:52:24
But not in his proper position
CardiffRED

I agree

Chaman

16 Aug 2013 11:29:51
I am loving this rumour about Ozil. He is my favourite player behind Ronaldo and Vidic, he is young but experienced and he is one of the few players in world football that has a sense of invincibility on the ball. A line of Kagawa, Rooney and Ozil behind RVP would put us close to the champs league, add to him Fellaini and possibly Baines we have a squad I think will win us the league.

When you look at our rivals and their 3 behind the strikers they are all very good but lack depth. City: Aguero, Jovetic and Silva. Chelsea: Mata, Hazard, Oscar. Arsenal: Podolski, Carzola, Walcott.

Although I agree they are all dangerous I don't think they all have enough options to rotate. This is where we can win the league. Kagawa, Rooney and Ozil are all very technical players who are good on the ball, passing should be smooth and accurate but against some teams that may not work, bring in Zaha and Welbeck and all of a sudden we are a complete different attacking outfit.

For me Ozil and Fellaini is now a perfect window, let's hope.

While I agree this would be amazing, it results in Kagawa playing out of his favour position. I reckon Kawaga would play out of position before Rooney would, but with Dortmund making eyes at him, long term it COULD result in him leaving.

Another thing to consider, is that all preseason Moyes has been playing a 433 formation. This might be down to a lack of options through injury / no transfers (yet?) but it would be hard to fit the players mentioned into that system, particularly an unhappy Rooney.

I suppose we will have to wait and see. I would have prefered to have some transfers in before playing the likes of Chelsea and City, but we will just have to make do for now.

RedDub -

If the players were played centrally and occasionally pushed out wide rather than played as out and out wingers I don't see a problem.

My preferred positions would be Ozil on the right, Kagz on the left and Rooney through the middle; but all three have the capability to interchange - so I don't think Rooney could complain too much about where he is playing (assuming he stays).

1redarmy -

I would much rather see Khedira or Modric signed instead of Fellaini. With Fellaini at £23m; there wouldn't be too much difference in the price (£10m max) and both players are considerably better.

On a side note - there's talk of us paying £70m for Ozil, Modric and Coentrao. I've no doubt that these signings would massively strengthen our team; but am I the only one who would rather see us offer £70m for Ronaldo and see what happens?

redseven

You say city have no depth for the three behind the main striker they have nasri, navas and toure when he pushes on which he has done to great effect the past two seasons then you say utd have and name a player who has only played in the championship and one who contributed one prem goal last year other players from Chelsea and arsenal spring to mind schurrle, de bruyne, Moses, van ginkel, Arteta, chamberlain, rosicky and Ramsey take off those rose tinted glasses and take another look Mw

16 Aug 2013 10:57:24
Anyone know why moyes press conference has been cancelled?

16 Aug 2013 11:44:27
Their still searching for Woodward. MrE

Because he has nothing to say. !

16 Aug 2013 10:44:11
So with Rooney playing quite a few minutes against Scotland for England the other day there is no reason he shouldn't play against Swansea tomorrow. This should be interesting, do people think he will start?

I reckon it'll be RvP and Welbeck up front.

Ozwald

I don't think we will see Rooney until Moyes is happy with his overall fitness/conditioning. I wouldn't be surprised if he's told him that and wants him back to his old world class self or as close to it due to the years of booze and cigarettes.

16 Aug 2013 09:36:59
In good faith from a Magpie loving friend of mine, Manuel Fernandes is being looked at as a replacement for Cabaye (bid submitted for around £3.5m I believe). Whether we put a bid in for Cabaye or not is anyone’s guess! He’s a good player who would add depth and improve the squad but is he a world beater? No.

That’s why I am hoping we do actually put bids in for Will.i.an and Ozil as a priority. We could then allow Carrick to sit deep with Kagawa and Will infront of him with Ozil and Zaha on the attacking prongs with RvP in the middle! That would be very tasty.

SB

Just saying.

dont get your hopes high. but he is also a target of psg. and they doing business more quickly than us is well known.

rodio17

16 Aug 2013 08:40:27
If we don't sign Ronaldo then why not give Nani the 7 shirt? I think it could bring the best put of him and as we all know on his day he's unplayable!

Nani doesn't deserve the Number 7 shirt Caolan. He would need to put in some consistent performances before anything like that happened.

He needs to stay fit and injury free. Something he hasn't done in years.
Nomidfield

I don't see how wearing a particular number on his back would " bring the best out in him", if you consider the past wearers of the number 7 shirt there's not a midfield player worthy.
I'd take the 23 off Cleverley to mess his brand up as well.

Carl

16 Aug 2013 08:03:33
Very strong rumours around us and Ozil, would be fantastic at OT

16 Aug 2013 07:51:39
I still believe Bale is the key to this potential transfer merry-go-round and I think Levy has intentionally engineered it so it won't happen until the last day thus scuppering any chance of his rivals benefiting as a result. Think about it, If Bale goes to RM, who are going to be the potential benefactors? given it could then trigger a move for Ronaldo to Man Utd, and then a move for Rooney to to Chelsea. I'm convinced Levy is already spending the money he's getting from Bale and it would be just like him to ensure no other premier league team indirectly gains from the move.

Well given the fact that they have spend 50 million so far and looking to spend more, I tend to agree with you.

I still don"t believe Ronaldo is coming but do believe we will see some blockbuster deals late.

16 Aug 2013 04:27:07
I don't think we will be signing anyone this summer :(
Atleast no marquee signing may be only Fellaini.

We have signed Zaha and the window ain't shut.

We build teams not buy them and without us doing that England would be pretty much screwed wouldn't they.

Be patient til nxt week and support this squad while you wait.

16 Aug 2013 00:57:39
I think with the amount of signings spurs are making it is a certain exit for bale. Have Madrid agreed to do it on deadline day to let spurs use him to attract signings? And do Madrid have to sell Ronaldo to fund it? Will this be a deadline day to remember?

ekd