Manchester United Banter Archive March 16 2015

16 Mar 2015 19:22:12
If reports are correct and de gea goes in the summer, who replaces him? I've been watching Anthony Lopes, only 24, from Lyon? Very under-rated in my opinion and would be a good replacement? We forget where Lloris come from and he's turned out better than expected?

16 Mar 2015 20:09:22
If he goes it will be Valdes mate.

16 Mar 2015 20:46:41
We need another Paddy Roche, that's what we need.

16 Mar 2015 23:27:08
JMB,

You say that like you know it to be true, which I'm pretty sure you don't?

17 Mar 2015 02:09:31
GDS- I fully expect Valdes to take De Geas place should he leave this summer and we will approach a back up keeper aka Krul or someone of that ilk.

Valdes is a favourite of LVG. He gave him
His debut at Barca in which he was number one for many years. He has years of top level experience and is still very young in goalkeeping terms.

Adding to this he was a free transfer (good business) and we are currently paying our back up goalkeeper a reported '£130k - 150k a year'. Is that really back up wages? 'IF' DDG does go then Valdes will have 12 months left on his contract to prove he can do a job for us and to win himself an extension.

If DDG stays or goes I guarantee we will not spend big on a goalkeeper as we have more pressing concerns.

17 Mar 2015 08:58:53
Or is it because Ed002 hinted about Valdes further down the page?

17 Mar 2015 09:25:39
He has also hinted at Krul Betty which suggests the Ed has my back in this!

17 Mar 2015 09:37:15
I certainly hope that is not going to be the case JMB. I think we should look towards recruiting a young, realiable goalkeeper if DDG signed for another club.
Victor Valdez doesn't look to be a perfect replacement for DDG in my opinion.

17 Mar 2015 09:49:33
Fanboy - He is experienced at the top level, established, a winner and is still 'young' for a goalkeeper. Who out there is better at the moment at a realistic price?

Anyway hopefully DDG signs on and this is just conjecture!

17 Mar 2015 10:30:44
JMB - the Ed has your back? Deary me mate you are very self assured aren't you?
I was actually implying in my OP that you are just repeating what the Ed had said down the page. Obviously I have misunderstood, and the Ed gets his information from you.
My apologies.

17 Mar 2015 10:41:36
Anthony Lopes is a brick wall, the only issue with him is he's six foot which isn't exactly tall for a keeper. If DDG were to leave I'd be really happy with Lopes as a replacement.

17 Mar 2015 11:12:02
Yes Betty I seen what you mean. It is unfathomable to think that someone could form their own opinion without the EDs input.

17 Mar 2015 11:18:45
I think the long term solution is the Serbian kid we recently signed. We just someone in place for a few years whilst he develops. Obviously we'd all prefer de gea. But I think most of us expected him to go home at some point. Just yet again poor long term planning.

17 Mar 2015 11:35:53
I hope it's not Valdes, but his signing makes little sense if it isn't to replace DDG (it could also be to make DDG think he doesn't hold all the cards come contract discussion time).

I like Adrian. Wouldn't mind speaking with Chelsea about their #2 either, whilst we wait for the Serb to mature a year or two. I just don't want Valdes or Krul starting, they are error prone and we need better imo - especially if we don't strengthen our defence because "the right players aren't available".

17 Mar 2015 12:07:20
I'm hoping Valdez is a stop-gap, to allow the club a bit more time to come up with a genuine alternative to DDG. It would take the pressure off timewise. He's a solid, experienced keeper who could do a job for maybe a season. If the club do think DDG is going, then his signing makes sense.

16 Mar 2015 16:19:55
after the best day utd have had in a while just one question to you all, did anyone see wes brown on family fortunes. I know they say most footballers are dumb, but he really is. name something that will be annoying to find out about your trousers when your at work wes. erm they've changed colour.

16 Mar 2015 18:40:27
So you watch Family Fortunes and what .?

16 Mar 2015 19:41:29
I remember years ago Led Dennis was the presenter. He asked " Name a bird with a lon neck"
Contestant replied "Naomi Campbell". Now this IS funny.

16 Mar 2015 19:46:23
It made me laugh. Caught the end just before Mr. Selfridge, now that's a show!

16 Mar 2015 20:31:11
Les Dennis, long neck !! Thunky chumbs.

16 Mar 2015 21:31:10
I remember someone asked to name a type of bean and answered les.

16 Mar 2015 22:32:55
The classic was when someone was asked a type of ache and he said filet o fish. yep and it cost him a car

{Ed007's Note - I didn't want to mention that in case nobody else had seen it!}

16 Mar 2015 15:25:02
I'm loving the positivity.

Everything seemed right yesterday, we were back to our old attacking ways. Fellaini had a stormer and Carrick scored a header!

I think its blatantly obvious Rooney is our best striker and should remain in the starting XI for the rest of the season as a striker.

Blind had a great game at LB and i don't want to say it for Shaw's sake, but Blind should play there vs Liverpool.

Carrick and Herrera were fantastic, passing, moving and positioning. Young impressed again and tormented Walker all game. Mata showed why he should be playing a lot more.

Now to the main point of my post. Smalling.

Ever since his red card vs City he has come on leaps and bounds. I am very impressed with his positional play and he has picked up the ability to run forward with the ball. He is our number 1 CB at the moment and i am filled with confidence when i see him there. I think with a season or two being our CB he will become the player we all thought he was going to become. Him and Cahill would be my starting CB's for England and he fully deserves this praise. His injurys are his problem but he has stayed relatively fit of late and i for one hope this continues.

HarryUTD

16 Mar 2015 16:16:59
Smalling has grown as a player since that City sending off which was very stupid. He has clearly learnt a lot from Van Gaal also and plays a little like Ramos in the sense that he gets forward a lot. He and Rojo are the only two centre backs that I trust and I maintain that we need two more - but he has improved a lot and deserves credit for that. Alongside a Hummels or someone like that he would be very good.

16 Mar 2015 16:20:51
I posted on the arsenal page a few weeks back when debating with them how good smalling has been since that day at the etihad and was met with the usual laughs and how they had better etc.

But I personally think he has been great for months now and should start for England in a few weeks. His distribution has improved a lot and his defending and reading of the game is top notch to boot.

His progression this season is great as I've always rated the lad and I'm made up for him he's now getting the credit he justifies. There's certainly not many in the premier ie take over him atm.

16 Mar 2015 16:28:03
I think his fitness has improved since the bloke who was first team physio was demoted and the new guy brought in.

16 Mar 2015 17:14:51
I was having that exact conversation with a friend after the match. Strange jones has went backwards and smalling has progressed well I would of thought it would be the other way around.

16 Mar 2015 17:28:06
Smalling has to be second to Young in terms of most improved player under LVG.

16 Mar 2015 17:46:11
Fresh
I would say Smalling's 3rd.
Fellaini
Young
Smalling.

16 Mar 2015 20:23:43
Agree 100 per cent Herbie

16 Mar 2015 11:29:11
Is Ronaldo not enjoying life a RM at the minute? Not celebrating Bales goal and walking off at the end of the match whilst all the players stayed to thank the fan. Could like this lead to speculation a summer move might be on?

16 Mar 2015 11:47:02
When is Ronaldo ever enjoying life at Madrid? Every few month's there is something coming out about him not being happy with X or Y.

I wouldn't sign him back. He has used us big style over recent years to better his contract, if he loves us so much why doesn't he demand a move, especially if he is so unhappy? I take anything coming out of Madrid or Ronaldo with a pinch of salt.

16 Mar 2015 12:05:07
Haven't u just answered ure own question lol.

16 Mar 2015 12:42:45
I wish we would just forget about Ronaldo. Great player? Sure. Do we need him? No. Don't get me wrong, he is world class and would vastly improve our team, but at this point he is more for himself. He is so selfish, that I think he should just play tennis. lol
Jokes aside, I saw his reaction to Bale's goal, as if to say. "that should have been my moment." Seriously? You mean it's not about the team anymore? This is why we don't need and oversize ego in the dressing room.
We need to forget about our silly little obsession with Ronaldo (as I have learned to do) because him coming back could actually do more harm than good.

16 Mar 2015 13:24:32
I'd have him back in an instant. Him and Rooney up front with support from the likes of Mata, Januzaj, Herrera is a match made in heaven.

16 Mar 2015 13:54:32
I agree with beast. He was great for us but he's the past not the future. I think his hunger has gone. His knee is suspect. i'd rather get someone with the hunger and desire to become the next Ronaldo.

16 Mar 2015 14:37:31
Great player but I wouldn't want him back now.

16 Mar 2015 15:38:29
Alright he might not be everyone's number one target, but if Ronaldo re-signed this summer, there isn't a single United fan who could 'honestly' say they wouldn't happy with it. Messi and Ronaldo are still on their own level above anyone else, so any team in the world would want them. Not saying it will happen, but if it did, we'd all be very happy.

16 Mar 2015 16:59:44
Messi is in his own league.

16 Mar 2015 17:10:58
One thing I cannot stand in a player is when they do not celebrate a goal by a teammate. Ronaldo is guilty of this time and again, and so is one of our own, Van Persie. And that is one of the things I love about Rooney. He has an ego like any star player, but he is absolutely delighted when his teammates score.

{Ed002's Note - With the rules for celebrations changing again next season there will be a level playing field once more. The last change got rid of that taking the shirt off nonsense.}

16 Mar 2015 18:06:02
Ronnie is the 2nd best player of the world, I would take him in a heart beat for the player he is, but he is such a fanny. Frowning at one of your team mates scoring??? That is beyond any petulance. He does it time and again. I mean a brilliant footballer who is filthy rich is upset or sad about most of the things? I hope he realizes it's Real Madrid FC and not Ronaldo FC

Deeps.

16 Mar 2015 20:24:11
I don't care what he does, he is actually a very good professional and to say he's lost his hunger is silly. He wouldn't react that was if he Wansnt bothered. He would make a HUGE difference to our chances next season, sell god knows how many shirts, and be te premier leagues best player. I would carry him back myself

16 Mar 2015 21:17:51
Ronaldo coming back could actually disrupt the club. He would never get on with LVG as his ego is of epic proportions. Over the past few years I have noticed that he is all for himself, and forgets that he should actually play for the team. I love CR7, and wished that he would return for years but now I think we should move on. We should focus on youth with potential such as Depay.

17 Mar 2015 19:14:28
Never going to happen guys, We will make a pitch for bale and hope this rift continues.

16 Mar 2015 09:04:01
Nice to see all the 'negative posters' giving credit to LVG and the team in regards to their performance yesterday.

Maybe, just maybe they aren't in fact 'negative posters' but instead have eyes like most human organisms and can tell the difference between a good display of football and a pitiful performance!

16 Mar 2015 11:25:13
JMB,

I think the problem is that most of the people who have been saying LVG should be given some time to get it right have had to listen to a lot of drivel from people this season about how we should sack the manager, how terrible we are, how we have blinkers on because we can't see what all your 'realists' can see.

But now suddenly we are playing a bit better and it's suddenly all rosy again and changed. Surely the people who said we should wait and see how it goes rather than jumping on the teams back are seeming more reasonable and justified than ever?

There has been a lot of negativity on here, and still will be if we lose on Sunday (football fans are fickle individuals) but it is nice to see a bit of positivity and optimism after yesterday.

I have said all season there would be ups and downs along the way and we shouldn't overreact to a good win or a bad defeat, let's just see how the season pans out, so I am not overreacting to yesterday, it was good to see us play much better and all the smiling faces leaving the ground were wonderful to see, but it was one performance, it needs to be like that more often and fingers crossed it will be, but let's not get carried away just yet.

16 Mar 2015 13:30:11
What is the point of getting rid of the manager as some have been wanting all season? He is a tried and tested top manager, so he has to be given time.
In addition, both Mata and Fellaini are coming good now after they have settled for a year, I was one of the wrong ones to have critisised them in the past. And we have bought so many new players at the start of this season and all of them have to be given time to settle and we will only see the best of them next season.

16 Mar 2015 20:27:28
To be fair I think the only person who has called for LVG to get the chop is beast. Everyone else is happy enough to give him to the end of the season and see where we go from there.

What I am getting at is ovboiusly we don't have outright 'negative' posters on here. Everyone has congratulated the team and the manager for the Spurs game and rightly so. When plaudits are deserved they are ovboiusly given and when not then their deserves to be criticism. It's a two way streak.