Manchester United Banter Archive October 16 2014

16 Oct 2014 19:46:56
A few weeks ago I said on here that Wilson would benefit from training and playing with Falcao. Therefore I read with interest that DiMaria and Falcao are also having a positive affect on Luke Shaw. Gareth Southgate is quoted as saying "I think what he (Shaw) now has is a recognition of what 'world class' looks like, he might have had an idea of what he thought it was before, but training at Manchester United with the likes of Radamel Falcao and Angel di Maria has given him a full understanding of the concept now. He would have known there was a level, but now he knows there is a level above that.'
Shaw has also apparently been sharing stories about DiMaria and Falcao amongst the U21 players.
An interesting benefit of buying class, similar to when Cantona arrived having a similar impact on the class of 92. It could be argued that DiMaria and Falcao are world stars and a level above Cantona. The long term benefit could be very interesting

And he didn't mention Rooney? Amazing considering how world class he is.

16 Oct 2014 21:15:15
Gd post that redman.

Good point Red Man. I just have one disagreement, only Cantona is a level above Cantona :)

Deeps.

True Deeps!. Only one King!.!!!
Still gives me goose bums!!
Collar up!.he was sheer class!

I think shaw will be one of the best left backs that has played in the last 20 years.

3 premiere league managers reckon he is the best british talent they have seen in the last 10 years. It is scary when you realise he is only 19 and what he will be like in a few years and hope to god he stays away from any serious injuries.

I'm more concerned about him staying away from the kebab house. He's got quite a bulky physique - and like Rooney - I can see him struggling to keep his weight in check (just to point out - I'm not saying that either are 'fat' - just that they have a particular body type).

Same worry RedSeven, he looks like he has a bit of Anderson (literally) in him - chubby funster.

The only thing above cantona is them seagulls

It would be nice for Shaw to be able to learn from players who are defenders as well, naturally there will be professional things he will learn from the world class attackers but we have a severe lack of quality defensive players for our young prospects to learn from - hopefully this will be addressed properly in January.

What is it with some people on here with the snide Rooney remarks. This kid is going to be the Manchester United and England all time top scorer. He must have something about him breaking records that have stood for all these years.
How many years ago was it the famous "transfer request" he handed in?
Get a grip and move on.

The Rooney debate is tiresome. He is not everyone cup of tea but he will be breaking records, he is the Captain and he will be here for some time. He may be in decline but I would definitely rather play on the same side as him than against him.

I think that was why LVG wanted Evra to stay so Shaw could learn from him.

I think he has the right manager for the weightissues. already shown what he has to do to get in the team. now carry on and stay there.
Cantona is and will aAlways be king. such a difference maker in a game and set the bar for the youngsters to follow on how hard to train. Legend

17 Oct 2014 18:27:10
Shaw isn't naturally bulky like Rooney, I read somewhere that he did a lot of work in the gym to build his upper body up when he was at Southampton.

Just like GCU said though I hope he stays away from any serious injury.

16 Oct 2014 12:30:11
What are peoples takes on Tim farron's recent comments on the third kits in football being surplus to requirements and that they're just another way of fleesing fans of money. don't think it really applies to us as we just usually use the previous years away kit, but nonetheless still interesting

The shirts are a rip off anyway, the prices that are charged are totally disgraceful. I refuse to buy any of them because I think it is purely a money making scheme, I wouldn't wear football shirt anyway as a grown man though. Before moaning about 3rd kits he should moan about the price of shirts.

16 Oct 2014 13:53:57
I believe the third kit has applied in the past for CERTAIN games. For example Ajax's home strip is White and Red, and United's home kit is red and their away kit used to be white on away days in Europe. If Ajax for example were to play their home tie in their home kit against United then both United's home and away kits would clash, so the third blue kit WOULD apply. This is obviously very rare but it CAN be the case in certain games but it is uncommon. I believe third kits should be considerably cheaper to warrant their use.

{Ed002's Note - The argument is have an away kit that would never clash. So if you have a red and white home kit, have a whole blue away kit for example.}

16 Oct 2014 15:03:25
Ed002,

So what happens when you play Barcelona?

{Ed002's Note - They wear the pink and yellow away kit.}

16 Oct 2014 15:09:36
I don't get the whole 'rip off' thing, it's not like it is mandatory to buy all kits that are released. If United bring out 3 kits per season, to me that just means that kids have a greater choice of the one to get. Let's face it, at least one is usual pretty ugly. You don't have to buy all three, tell kids they can choose one and ask which they like best.

Nothing wrong with bright yellow or green bibs if you ask me.

Some die hard supporters will buy anything with the name on it, the clubs just abuse this like any other company would. Supply and demand.

As Brenda mentions above; nobody is forcing you to buy the kits.

Considering it is meant to be the working mans game it is a fleece. The kits for kids are extortionate and I think that tickets should be a flat rate. My friend was looking to get tickets to MU v Chelsea and the starting price was £190. How is that affordable?

Well Fresh almost 76,000 people at every home game show it is affordable.
I remember paying £3.60 on the turnstiles to stand in United Road and £8 for the FA cup final against Everton in '85.

It's disgraceful. Without coming over all KLOOTish, the price of watching a game, season tickets, replica kits is bordering on extortion. Just because 76000 people turn up every week does not make it right.

{Ed002's Note - And it will get worse the moment the breakaway happens. I have explained before that there will be changes, probably within the next 10 to 15 years, which will force the restructuring of all of the leagues in Europe and likely do away with the likes of UEFA. You will have the opportunity to see the likes of Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Juventus and the other major European sides play in week-on-week regular competition at The Emirates, Stamford Bridge etc.. You will have the opportunity to visit Milan, Barcelona, Monaco, etc. every couple of weeks to watch your team play - if they make the cut. If you want to don your cloth cap, have a pint of wallop with your chums before going off to the local match, perhaps one of the sides from the suburbs will have survived so you can go and watch them?

It is not the peoples game any longer - you need to move on.}

You have an option to buy the kit but what is not an option is the forced purchase of cup tickets for season ticket holders.

We may want to go to the cup games but I am against being forced to buy tickets. I can chose to buy the kit but I can't chose to buy the cup tickets and for me that needs investigating more than shirts which are optional

Well red man we've got a year off that then.

Carloto

A year off Europe for sure but the FA Cup is in scope. It is the principle that matters