Manchester United Banter Archive August 19 2014

19 Aug 2014 19:04:14
So rojo and his club announce the deal and the press have had absolutely nothing from united, not one little but if information, the player made it public because he refused to train, before that not one mention from the 'ITK's'. Exactly the same as Herrera. So surely that tells everyone how we are conducting our business this year, the press know nothing, and we could be in for a brilliant 2 weeks.

Hope so. I always love when the club surprises me with transfers

I made this point when the news first broke that we'd put in a bid and he was refusing to train. It cracks me up that all of the 'ITK's on Twitter are claiming the deal going through as a successful prediction on their end.

GDS

Once again we find ourselves on the same page. Neither Herrera or Rojo were flagged before they were completed or well under way. The endless rumours are frustrating, we must have been linked with over 20 players this window.

Still work to do but the club have clearly decided to keep things very very quiet this year.

I think the rumours are fine its what keeps the site going it all the ITK trying to tell people they are right or wrong and who we really are or are not after that winds me up.
i think there are very few who actually know

20 Aug 2014 08:31:04
AJH,

The thing that makes me laugh the most if we were linked with 10 Dutch players over the summer, martins indi, de vrij, vlaar, blind, robben, Clasie, depay, de Jong, robben and kuyt. Lazy journalism
at it's best, funnily enough we have signed none of them so far.

19 Aug 2014 19:49:21
For all those who want Vidal - is he really the answer - no. He's an attacking midfielder we need a defensive minded holding midfielder like carvalho

He's a box to box midfielder. His defensive stats are more impressive than most DM's and he also has more goals and assists than any Juve player over the past three seasons. Given our lack of goals and assists from midfield last season I think Vidal would be a fantastic signing.

Vidal is a box to box midfielder.
He is an engine and breaks down play very well.
He will also add goals, he is the answer.

19 Aug 2014 21:01:17
Vidal is best played in the box to box role but due to him being such an amazing player he is able to play in the defensive role or attacking.

19 Aug 2014 21:27:50
We need both box to box and dm

20 Aug 2014 01:26:38
Whatever you think or classify him as it doesn't matter, he's that good. He loves a good tackle just as much as scoring a good goal. He's by far our best option if we want to drastically improve our midfield simple as.

19 Aug 2014 18:09:16
Ed! Banter please.Hope I can discuss with mates here

So last time I told about my frn who is a business man who is kind of ITK one and he said me about our interest in bale last season and mata in january window ( actually he told me about mata long before window ) . As Moyes himself told about bale, my friend proved right . He further said we will sign shaw just after the season .May be my post was in Other posts so lot of people here didn't read. And whatever he said about this window is going very accurate . He told me that we will probably sign 4 more players this window. 2 high profile signing and 2 would be shocker names. As it turns out Rojo is one of the shocker name as we knew nothing about our interest in him until he handed a transfer request . When I asked about hummels long ago ( when we were looking likely to sign him ) he said " don't expect too much", he said that though we are interested in him, it is least likely to sign him and now he seems very unlikely. He was very positive about vidal but now when I recently asked him he said that vidal saga is all over in our hands. Juventus do want to keep him but for the money they can get, they surely in hell want to sell him . So the main thing is we are offering a lot money for him but little less of what Juve wants. Woodward is not willing to increase a penny in what is offered and hence the saga continues and Vidal's knee is of no concern as he will be given plenty of rest befor LVG plays him . LVG is in between Strootman and Vidal . He prefers Strootman to Vidal but has to wait long so you never know if we can tie this deal up .It is all over us. and about Benatia, he said that no bid has been submitted but it is likely. Bayern want him but won't pay over 25 m for him so if we pay over 30m then he will be ours as he wants to play any of the two (yes! without cl ). Angel Di Maria's condition is really a mess but it will be sorted within 7 days he said.

I for myself trust him so am very positive . It's all over Woodward

Well! This is what I know. Thanks ed for your wonderful contribution in this site

Nice one Srestha, good post.

Good to know, I guess with Rojo now confirmed, we will sign either Hummels or Benatia, plus Vidal, and Di Maria would be a cherry on top.

19 Aug 2014 16:15:45
Ed002, have we submitted a bid of any sorts for anyone in the last week besides Rojo?

{Ed002's Note - I am not getting in to this ridiculous "where is his plane now" type of nonsense. I have explained what I know, and that is it.}

19 Aug 2014 17:25:08
Hi ed, would you know if Rojo would fly business class or budget? Would he receive a meal in flight or pay for one or do you think he would be economical and purchase a cheese & pickle pre-packed sandwich from a reasonably priced food outlet accompanied with a packet of crisps?
On a more serious note, (and I know your unlikely to answer as it's opinion) but I'd love to know which club you think vidal would be at come 1st September and Strootman.
Thanks again for all ed's efforts and like the introduction on the formations page.

{Ed004's Note - Most likely Juventus. But there is still interest in him}

19 Aug 2014 15:50:23
So two weeks left and we are still in search of a midfielder, every1s 1st choice is vidal hope we sign him.but wat do u guys think Of william carvalho. We were intrested in him under moyes but now things have gone cold. My point is evry team needs a player who is ready to do dirty work for his team, staying back protecting his defence breaking play etc etc. william carvalho is the best available option we have in this window to play that role.i mean all the top teams have that kind of player chelsea(matic), city(fernando).city already had fernandinho stil they bought fernando bcs he stays back n allows yaya toure to run forward(newcstle game).lot of people wil say lvg prefers strootman for that role but wat are the guarantees tht signing him wil be easy(roma already stating they need huge offer), that he wil be the same player he was before injury or who knows how good carvalho turn out to be and evn lvg prefers strootman why can't we sign them both. I mean evry team needs strength n depth.chelsea and city have lot of midfielders stil they got fabregas and fernando respectively.how far we are from wining the premier league or from chelsea and city in terms of quality Of players forget champions league and the likes of real and barca.the other point is if we sign carvalho and miss out on vidal then we still have a midfiled which can compete for top4.what do u guys think.

I hope we go in for Carvalho. Our midfield is too lightweight.

19 Aug 2014 15:11:27
Here is an interesting statistic regarding Marcos Rojo.
He is the fastest member of the Argentine team and that makes him quicker than Messi & Di Maria & Aguero.
He also clocked speeds faster than Arjen Robben.
Just think of that when he is bombing down the left wing or an opposing player is making a run on goal.

So your saying he is the fastest player in the world as at the world cup robben was clocked as the fastest player on the planet

19 Aug 2014 17:11:11
Fairly sure the player with the recorded fastest time (on the ball) was and still is Antonio Valencia? Not that he still has anywhere near that pace these days.

19 Aug 2014 14:08:35
Unrealistic wishful thinking prediction time:

I say we will sign Vidal by the end of this window.

I think that bird flew long ago.

I have a feeling we might end up with Nigel De Jong.

Deadline day bid for Strootman - injured players have past medicals before and he is on the trail back to full fitness.

19 Aug 2014 17:05:25
I say we will sign Rojo and be completely silent for the rest of the window because we assume that Rojo will be enough to fix our problems

19 Aug 2014 13:56:01
Nani having medical at Sporting.

Great news, just need Rojo to have his here and we have ourselves a deal. You never know, he could rediscover himself and come back as an incredibly good player that we would want to keep.

19 Aug 2014 12:10:16
Marcos Rojo has just said he is delighted to be joining Manchester United . He also thanked sporting. He did this on a Argentinian radio station. I got information from sky sports, BBC . If u want look for yourselfs.

Cum on u Reds. Wilf

19 Aug 2014 14:21:59
Haha no don't believe you, can't be bothered looking for myself!

19 Aug 2014 12:52:12
Quite surprised RM and PSG don't just swap Di Maria and Cavani. I know RM want Falcao, but wouldn't it be easier just to swap these pair? A front four of Ronaldo, Bale, James & Cavani would be some attack.

Signing Falcao would allow them to get one over on Atletico. He's a better player too.

Erm maybe because real madrid don't want cavani, just a thought.

19 Aug 2014 17:16:49
Both good strikers but Falcao is better in my opinion, smarter off the ball and great skill and technique with his finishing.

19 Aug 2014 11:25:48
I see it is now being rumoured that Di Maria is going to PSG on a one year loan with a view to a 65 million euro move next year if all goes well in the loan period. If this is true, it's another one that Ed has let slip through his fingers.

{Ed002's Note - It didn't slip through my fingers. I blame ed007.}

How can something "slip through your fingers" if it wasn't in your hands in the first place?

How has it slipped through anybodies fingers when his preference was always psg

19 Aug 2014 15:16:23
Ed002 - nice one! LOL!
Betty - Woodward never got close enough for it to be in his hands (a bit like the Indian slip fielders in the recent Test Match at the Oval), so it slipped through his fingers as he reached out to grasp it. Simples!
Red - the only reason he will have preferred PSG would be the overall package on offer - again something that Woodward had under his control.

19 Aug 2014 10:33:53
With Rojo looking increasingly likely, I was wondering what other posters' opinions are of him, as, besides a rather ambiguous YouTube video, I know very little of the player.

Nevertheless, my instinct suggests that this is another classic Manchester United panic buy, which is becoming synonymous with Woodwards reign. How many posters on here would have had Rojo in their top 10 (or perhaps even 20) list of defenders to purchase this Summer? With Garay and de Vrij (the latter having an intimate knowledge of van Gaal's system) going for considerably less, I can't help but feel we placed to great en emphasis on securing an unattainable Hummels and missed the boat on two genuine defensive bargains. I will not vilify Rojo for Manchester United's significant failings in the transfer market, and sincerely hope he succeeds should he be signed, but I can't help but think, is he better than what van Gaal already has at his disposal?! A question which I cannot realistically answer as I have not seen a great deal of him.

We all laughed at Liverpool throwing silly amounts of money at average players, but I agree with Gary Neville, we have done exactly the same over the past few windows, and we have not received value for money. I would rather stick with what we have than start buying players to appease fans, new players need to be the right players for the system, regardless of fee or age, and in this I trust van Gaal - unfortunately I do not place the same faith in Mr. Woodward, and therein the problem lies.

Despite the underlying negativity of this post, last weekend's result has not derailed my confidence in the team for the season ahead. We were told that it may take several months for the players to grasp van Gaal's methods, therefore I see no reason to hit the panic button just yet! After all, one game does not a season make!

Rojo is a solid signing. You're right that most would not have him in their 'top 20's' - but sometimes it comes down to who is available rather than who you want. We're getting an experienced player who can play at left back and center back and will add much needed depth to the squad. If he's our only defensive signing - it's an underwhelming one; but if we also bring in a Benatia/Badstuber/Hummels/Subotic type player then he's a good acquisition.

He is quick and unlike Smalling has decent distribution he is more solid than Blackett but dosent have Jones all round ablility

I would seriously doubt that anyone on here really knows much about the player. LvG clearly does, so we have to trust his opinion. Simple as that really.

19 Aug 2014 11:57:33
Was I aware of him before the world cup? No.

Did he stand out as a good player in an average Argentina side? Yes him, Garay and Mascherano were arguably their best players.

Would he be in my first choice bracket. No but he would be in my list of second choices.

Van Gaal got to see him up close and he obviously impressed enough.

For me the problem is Woodward he keeps chasing after big names we can't get. Last year fabregas this year vidal and hummels. Rather than getting what's attainable.

What I have seen of rojo is he physically suits the league, can tackle, decent in the air and importantly wants to play for us.

Hes not the answer but he could be a good piece of the puzzle

I don't know how true it is but I saw something somewhere that said that over the last five transfer windows only PSG have spent more than us. Which if true would lead you to think that we clearly haven't been getting value for money from our signings.

As for Rojo, well I've seen him a few times and he looks solid enough. He has all the physical attributes needed(fast, strong, good leap) as well as having good vision and reading of the game.

I certainly wouldn't call him an elite defender but imo there are very few of these about atm, personally the only ones I would put in that category are Hummels, Kompany, Chellini and Thiago Silva. Everyone else imo fits into the very good or the potentially elite.

But then how many of the defenders we have ever signed have been top defenders when we signed them? Jaap Stam is the only one that springs to mind. Rio cost a lot but he wasn't the finished article and if he wasn't English and was playing for some team other than Leeds would have cost a quarter of what he did.

Vidic was a total unheard of, yet he has been our best defender of the last decade.

I would give him a couple of months in a United shirt before I even think to judge him.

I have not seen too much of him so cannot say if he is brilliant or rubbish.
But he played all the games for Argentine in the World Cup, apart from 1 game with a suspesion, and that is good enough for me.
I cannot think of any present member of our defence that would get into that Argentine team.
I am sure he will turn out to be an excellent buy ( until he fancies playing for Real Madrid in a couple of years ).

If LVG didn't want him we wouldn't have signed him. I agree he is a virtual unknown, but he can cover the left, has pace and did feature prominently in a strong Argentina team. He is young, not that expensive considering what we have been paying for less experienced players and I think he will fit in well.

However he is not one of the 3 players we need in order to take us back to where we belong imo. He is a good buy but not great and we are desperate for great players now. I'd rather him than not at the minute.

Sticking with what we have is a recipe for disaster, we will not make CL without signings because we can't afford to risk these players all of a sudden clicking we will be too far behind, so we need numbers now.

Another bonus is Nani being gone!

Having seen him play about 10 times not including the WC I would say he's one of the better defenders in Portugal.

He's perfect for a high line defence, great pace, his position leaves a little to be desired but it's not terrible, not worse than what we've got.

He'll need to bulk up in order to play against the likes of Costa, Bony, Kozak, etc.

without overdoing it, he's very similar to a raw Rio Ferdinand. Tons of pace, great tackle, very good in the air.

He perhaps lacks the intelligence and vision that Rio had in his United career but he reminds me of the Leeds/West Ham Rio.

He also reminds me of Gary Cahill, but a lot quicker :).

Not a finished article, he's not vidic or Kompany but he's a solid enough CB, better than what we have and if he continues to develop I think he'll be a very talented CB.

Better than Garay and TV imo.

19 Aug 2014 17:17:03
Very quick, solid, good in the air, comfortable on the ball. Can play lcb, cb or lb. Good signing.
But we do now need a great signing or 2

19 Aug 2014 19:14:16
How about we give him a little time playing int the United shirt before judging him as a signing? Did anyone want or expect Evra or Vidic to be signed?

19 Aug 2014 09:22:51
Hi Ed002! Is rojo been given permission to travel to United for a medical? Is the deal done? Can you confirm?

Cheers!

{Ed002's Note - The deal is not done.}

Haha, love your replies ED keep it up!

Yeah Ed, that reply is hilarious! Possible the funniest sentence I have ever read :)

19 Aug 2014 09:34:52
With our total lack of quality in midfield along with the potential departure of Fellaini and Carricks long term injury we have been left with just Herrera, Cleverley and Fletcher as options in the middle of which one is settling into a new league, one is coming back from a long term illness and may not recover his previous form and the other just isn't good enough.

Now Vidal is the obvious target and a player we can't really afford to stop trying to sign. This means it is a saga that will likely roll on right up to deadline day. But can we afford to get to deadline day with just the outside hope we will sign Vidal and if not then unlucky. Even if we sign him we would still only have a choice of four midfielders and an injury or suspension or two away from trouble.

So my question is do you think it would be wise to sign Alex Song on loan as a back up option and incase the Vidal deal falls through? That way if we sign Vidal then we will just have an extra option with Song and Vidal to add to our current option. And if the Vidal deal falls through we won't be quite as exposed.

Song has prem experience so shouldn't have trouble adapting to the league and a season long loan deal means we won't have to pay a fee for him thus giving us money to spend on other targets. He has shown in the past that he links up very well with RvP and could offer us a near risk free option. If he did well then we could buy him next summer if he fails to impress then we send him back to Barca and sign someone else such as Strootman.

Obviously he isn't anyones first choice but it could be a good idea as a sercurity blanket incase things go wrong in the transfer maket for us as they did last year.

Loan yes buy no

Im with you on that Shappy.Our midfield is weak and needs a boost somewhere.Am I confident at this stage of the transfer window with the way we do our business, no i'm not.But live in hope.

Song is no better than what we already have and will not get any better. His wages would also be pretty high. I think we will sign Blind and Vidal if MU get their own way. Blind, Herrera and Mata could be our midfield, but I'm hoping for Vidal, Herrera and Mata.

Shappy fellaini's departure if true means we have a deal or ver close on a deal with a midfielder:)

We should sign players of the required quality rather than buy for the sake of it.

I think blind is going to be the "security blanket" but I understand wot u mean, can fill in at cb too, there's a few who would fit the bill, clasie would b a good back up, lars bender would be a great engine in there too

Song on loan would be a good move, but part of me is expecting a deadline day deal for Strootman who will sit out the side for about two months and then be fit for October time. If Song on loan is an option then that is a great move for someone with loads of EPL experience.

Shahram, so you don't think Fellaini to Napoli is just paper talk anymore :)

I just feel that if Fellaini was to leave which looks likely then even if we managed to sign Vidal then we will still be lacking serious cover in midfield.

Vidal is just coming back from injury, how will he settle in a new country? I would be shocked if he didn't take to it like a duck to water but he may take time due to his injury come back.

Carrick won't be ready for the first team until around Christmas, it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that it could take him until the end of Feb to fully regain match sharpness and become accustomed to the new system.

Fletcher has had serious injury issues which seem to have effected his pace tenacity and his ability to drive forward which were his best assets, will he ever recover his best form? hopefully but unlikely.

Cleverley, he is 25 now and is probably declined since his debut. He needs to move on and is poor cover to say the least.

Herrera is our only midfield of the quality needed to start for us atm. If Vidal signs then we will have two. But what if either of these two get injured or suspended? Also Herrera is settling into a new league and to expect him to be amazing in every game is too much at this stage.

So we could do with another player with the quality to act as decent back up.

Imo to say Song isn't any better than Cleverley, Carrick or Fletcher at this point is probably foolish. He has more pace power and ability than those three and seems far more suited to the type of football LvG wants to play.

If we were to sign him on loan he would almost be totally risk free and allow us to focus our money on other targets.

As for the possibility of signing Blind instead of Song, we personally I feel Song would be better suited to this system as a midfielder. There is a reason why LvG rarely played Blind as one of the midfield two in this system for Holland at the world cup. Although his passing is top notch, his weakness is a lack of real pace or power, which is what we really need in midfield atm, Blind would be very similar to Carrick. Plus Blind would cost around 17m if figures are to be believed, Song could be brought in on loan and has Prem experience something Blind does not.

Saw a depressing stat last night.
In 45mins of football, Fabregas had more assists to his name that Carrick, Fellaini, Fletcher and Cleverly combined in the whole of last season. I think it was referring solely to PL games, but still, a real eye-opener.

We really do have nothing in that area of the pitch.

I liked Song when he was at Arsenal but his lack of game time has really had an impact on his performances. I'd take him as cover (certainly a better option than Blind) - but we need a top quality midfielder along with him.

I can see the desperation on here starting to kick in.

Sydney

Still aper talk until it happens if it happens. Let's wait and see:)

Remember based on the papers we are after 50 players and everyone gets upset when they end up somewhere else and blames woodward. The real issue is we probably were never after 95% of the players the papers talk about and some fell fans on this site are obsessed with every rumour on twitter and the smut papers and take it as gospel :)

Vidal and Blind will do fine, if one of them gets injured we should go for a player in jan window.

Syd - I agree.

Earlier I saw someone saying that we should pay €65m for Di Maria!

I agree that Song would be a decent signing as cover especially to add a bit of tenacity to a currently weak midfield.

Blind on his own would not be enough. We are missing someone who can tackle and bring muscle to the midfield. He is a better option to what we currently have as cover. That is a fact. Look at his stats while playing for Arsenal and Barca. They are better than our current midfielders stats in terms of assists as well as completing his defensive duties.

With Fellaini looking likely to be leaving for the season we will need more than Blind or Vidal not just for the first team but as cover in the case of injuries and suspensions. Signing a player on loan for the year would be excellent as you have already stated Shappy and Song ticks more boxes than most.

Syd why are so against the thought of Song in a United Jersey?

JaMax, because he's not that good.

R7, when will some of you learn. It's not your money. The only question that matters is this: Di Maria or no Di Maria? The rest is completely irrelevant.

It's funny how people would rather see MU pull out of a deal to sign a world-class player as they think we are overpaying by £10m. Like it's their money. Very odd.

Syd - When will some people learn that despite Woodward's nonsense over the summer - there is a limit to how much the club can and will spend and that spending £52m on a player that we don't need will leave us with £52m less to spend on players that we do need and £180k per week less we can offer in wages. It's not a case of Di Maria or nothing - it's a case of a £30m-£35m player that we don't need (unless we're going to sign another winger and drop one of Mata, RVP and Rooney) or £52m worth of players in positions that are currently understrength.

R7, are you really that naive? You think that's how it works?

3412 allows ALL our top players to play together.

Would you prefer Rojo, Blind, Vidal & Di Maria?

OR

Rojo, Blind & Vidal?

19 Aug 2014 15:16:07
Papers learn of MU interest via agents, clubs etc. MU will have interest in 50+ players, but will only try to sign a fraction of them and actually end up signing a fraction of ones we attempt to sign. Just because something is written in a newspaper it doesn't mean it's not true. The Napoli/Fellaini interest has been confirmed by Benitez for starters. The Rojo rumours started via newspapers. People have sources, there are hundreds of people privy to information just like Ed002 is. You should know as you were told about Shaw and Vidal by your source. Newspapers and media outlets make mistakes, but very few just make stuff up.

R7, we are in desperate need for a player like Di Maria. Very bizarre.

Syd. Di Maria's best position by far is on the wing. If we play him on the wing we'd need to sign another winger and would be unable to play with a CAM and two strikers. That, in turn, means that we can't play all three of Rooney, RVP and Mata.

We could play him as a wingback - but by the same measure we could play Rojo as a goalkeeper. Ridiculous? No more so than spending £52m to sign a player and play him out of position.

You asked if I'd prefer Rojo, Blind, Vidal and Di Maria or just Rojo, Blind and Vidal. What a stupid question! How's this though. Would you prefer Rojo, Blind, Vidal, Benatia and Carvalho or just Rojo, Blind, Vidal and Di Maria? I expect the former would cost the same and be preferred by 95% of fans.

Funny that because I could have sworn we have been playing the likes of Young, Adnan, Lingard and Valencia as wingbacks. Don't you think he could fill the role that these wingers have been doing due to his excellent tracking back and constant pressing off the ball?

LvG's wingbacks are wingers. Hence the THREE CB's and defensive midfielder. It allows the wingbacks more freedom. Perhaps you would prefer Valencia than Di Maria? I would of course prefer Rojo, Blind, Vidal & Di Maria. Not even close. We are seriously lacking speed in our attack.

R7, whether you think we need Di Maria or not is irrelevant anyway. The fact is the manager wants Di Maria. Unless you think you know better than the Iron Tulip? Do you think LvG would green light the Di Maria move if it meant sacrificing other key areas? Of course not.

LvG's wingbacks? We're talking about a formation which he's used for a total of what? Ten games? For Holland he used Janmaat (a RB) and an assortment of utility players as wingbacks. His wingers (Robben and Depay) were deployed in central attacking midfield or striker positions.

For us he's used what he's had available. If he wanted to use wingers as wingbacks then why on earth would he greenlight the deal for shaw rather than spend the £30m on a winger instead? Had Rafael been fit he would have played on the right and were Shaw up to LVG's standards he would have played on the left.

I imagine that a move for Di Maria would signify us switching back to a 4-3-3; but that leaves us with the problem of accommodating him, Rooney, Mata and RVP in their favored positions (something which doesn't appear possible unless we want to be incredibly weak at the back).

The original discussion was whether at £52m Di Maria represented value for money - and aside from your nonsense about how we have unlimited funds and that it's a case of Di Maria or nothing - you've offered very little on that front. How about we just agree to disagree (regardless I don't intend on replying after this as the art of debate is clearly lost on you).

Holland lack wingers, hence the reason the likes of Blind, Kuyt, Janmeet etc played. Robben doesn't do anything defensive so would make a shocking wingback and is better deployed as a striker to add pace upfront. Depay played as a LWB at the WC.

Shaw is a replacement for Evra who spent 90% of the game attacking. Shaw's attacking abilities are why we signed him. He will make a great wingback and may develop similar to that of Bale who started as a LB, tipped to be a great wingback, yet ended up a good winger.

Please enlighten me what is the difference to Di Maria playing as a winger in a 442 and as a wingback in 343? There is no difference, wingers at MU bar Ronaldo have always had to track back an work hard defensively. That has always been the case at MU.

At least with THREE CB's and a defensive midfielder they wouldn't need to track back so much and wingbacks are predominantly wingers. Have you seen Di Maria play? He works very hard defensively. He would make an exceptional wingback.

But let's agree to disagree R7 mate, I do not see us reverting back to a 433 anytime soon.

19 Aug 2014 08:37:22
Looks like we can scratch Di Maria off the list, he will be joining PSG on loan with an option to buy him next summer.

Thank f! ;)

19 Aug 2014 07:04:56
Hi long time reader first time poster is it true that di Maria has been told he can leave if he wants to go united

19 Aug 2014 03:24:35
Should the Russian FA face sanctions after allowing Crimean clubs to compete in the Russian Cup?
Yes - 74% No - 26%
Interestting question that, 74% say yes, but why? Is Crimea now part of Russia? Is so what's the problem.
Should the English FA face sanctions after allowing Welsh clubs to complete in the FA cup? same difference to me.
Just saying.

{Ed001's Note - just to point out, the Welsh clubs choose to take part in the FA Cup with the backing of the Welsh FA and Wales is not currently considered as a separate country by the rest of the world, any more than the Basque regions of Spain are. The Crimea is still considered by the UN etc as a region of the Ukraine, which is being illegally controlled by a foreign power, Russia. So it is nothing like the same, and shows complete ignorance to even compare the two. It would be more akin to Scotland declaring independence and the rest of the UK invading and annexing Edinburgh and Hibs and Hearts then entering the FA Cup.}

Never meant to offend ed.
Im looking at this from a footballing perspective not political sry I should of made that more clear.
Wales can play in the world cup so in footballing terms it is its own country.

{Ed001's Note - but Crimea are not a separate nation like Wales are mate. Crimea is recognised as a region of the Ukraine. Not offended, just pointing out it is not the same. The reason why it shouldn't be allowed is simple. FIFA have kicked out nations in the past for allowing political interference with the relevant FA, yet that is now happening in Russia and they are not even giving them a slap on the wrist. If that was an African or some tiny island state with little money, FIFA would have booted them by now. It is just proving that the only thing FIFA and UEFA care about is money.}

Did someone say money? I think I just saw sepp blatter drool.

19 Aug 2014 01:10:04
Marcos Rojo has apparently said on Argentinian radio that he is proud to be a Manchester United player, and it wasn't easy to leave Sporting Lisbon.

18 Aug 2014 22:57:18
Rojo will not be enough, personally I have not seen enough of the lad to give my opinion on him apart from the world cup. (anybody provide info on him?)

Don't think it would be a bad idea to make an attempt to sign Song (maybe on loan) as the Vidal saga has gone quiet. He has PL experience and think he is more mobile than the likes of Fletch/Carrick.

Would love to see a real shock signing, someone who hasn't been mentioned maybe in the final few hours!

Watching Chelski they have some real quality, think they will only get stronger as the team starts to gel in the coming weeks, That fella Fabregas dosen't look half bad if anyone seen that assist for Shirleys goal.

Think its key that we stay upbeat folks, don't think we are in turmoil as some are making out, can't see LVG sit back and accepting the lack of activity if he wants to dip into the market, really think we will sign a few players and get rid of some of the lads who have not made the cut. Don't think Zaha has a future which is a pity as the lad seems to have so much potential but again question marks are hanging over him, is it attitude or something else. only the staff will know.

Hopefully we can get a lift at the weekend and score a few to lift the boys.

Cheers

JR