Manchester United Banter Archive March 19 2012

19 Mar 2012 23:49:10
I think it was 'Jono' who mentioned at the end of his post Tony V for #7?

I totally agree mate, with us he has developed into a special player. Easy the best old fashioned winger out there. His crossing is phenomenal as we saw in the 2009/10 season in which he created many for Rooney. His ability to beat the defender with minimal trickery and skill is what i find most baffling. As soon as he gets a yard of space he has his cross picked out. I was suprised as the Wolves game was his first back from a minor injury, i expected him to have a hit and miss game. He has been outstanding for us 90% of the time, and although not like Cristiano Ronaldo, he should be given the #7 shirt. There is no doubting his loyalty, as he sacked his agent as, this is what i was told, "His agent was talking about life away from Old Trafford, and Valencia absolutely does not want to leave" which i think is true. Who cares if he isnt a ronaldo type player, Ronaldo wasnt like Beckham. Beckham wasnt like Cantona. The number 7 should go to a fan favourite who always gives his best every game for the team, to a player who the team looks weakened with loss of. Valencia ticks all those boxes. Valencia is definately one of my favourite players, besides perhaps Chicharito and Smalling.

But yes, i agree Jono, Tony V for #7!

MUFC_DEVIL

19 Mar 2012 23:14:27
clyne to sign in the summer you heard it hear first

19 Mar 2012 22:51:46
My realistic signings this summer would be martinez,sigurdsson,hazard and daimao and possably kovacic they would all add a lot to our squad.
I'd like to see park,berbatov,macheda,owen and possably anderson all leave,that would free up a lot of wages.
I'd be a happy chappy then :)

19 Mar 2012 21:31:44
I dont want to sound negative but people here are extremely fickle. Everyday players go from useless to world-class and vice vesa.
Personally, i try to base my opinions on players, united and football in general on certain principles that i believe in. This prevents me from being fickle and changing my mind after every game. Here are my opinions about our various players and these opinions rarely change unless something exceptional happens like in evans case.
1. Rooney. A real top player both in the hole and uptop. However, i have always maintaind that i prefer rooney playin uptop with some1 like sniejder in the hole.

2. Hernandez. He is not a great finisher as people always put it. He is only able to from within the 6yard box. His shot is very weak(tame) and generally lacks direction, so whenever he takes a first touch, even in the 18yard box, you just know he wont score. I have always maintaind that chicha is a player thats effective comin off the bench in the last 15min.

3. Valencia. He is a very good winger but i would not say he is world-class. He has had only 2 good months out of an entire season and suddenly he is the best in world. I would say ronaldo, ribery, rouben, bale, nani, di maria, david silva and hazard are better wingers. But valencia is really adding more to game. Hope he stays injury free for the rest of the season.

4. Nani. He is one of our match winners regardless of how frustrating he can be at times. I know we have alot of nani haters here but i would only be happy to sell nani if he is replaced with some1 from the list above.
TO BE CONTINUED.....

Millz {Ed004's Note - Agreed with everyone but Valencia. Every time he plays he contributes massively to the team for the past few seasons. The season Rooney hit 34 goals more than half would have been supplied by Antonio, he is better than Bale, Hazard and Di Maria at least but thats a different argument.}

19 Mar 2012 19:48:27
I have heard they are closing mould trafford down and opening a library, they are just concerned that there will be a big increase in the noise level

JJ LFC

19 Mar 2012 18:23:13
I think our main targets are Gareth Bale and Jack Rodwell, i say that because we are increasingly looking to go British more and more of the time. Both have been on our radar for a long time and apparently we bidded for Bale two summers ago. Rodwell has also been on the radar for a while, reportadly meant to have had talks with Fergie a number of times over dinner. Also defensively I think that a left back is on the cards and if money permits a right back also. If we go cheap it could be Cissokho and Clyne, but it could well be Alba and Azpilicueta.

Before you cast this aside guys, just ask yourself the question: Whats more realistic...Bale and Rodwell or Hazard and Martinez?

All the rumours point to Hazard going to Spurs, Remy's comments, his dad's comments and Harry's. They might be preparing for times without Bale. And i think Everton will once again need to cash in and i think they'd rather keep Barkley, Baines and others and led Rodwell go.

A midfield of Cleverly, Rodwell, Anderson, Carrick, Pogba, Scholes and maybe Kovacic looks good to me. Add to that Nani, Bale, Valencia, Park and Young. (Young might be used as a make weight in the Bale deal perhaps - he can't of overly impressed Fergie and he is playing at his best.

UnitedForever

19 Mar 2012 17:09:31
im surprised we havent been linked with soldado a top goal scorer 26 not that old wouldnt be more than 20mil tops i would guess

19 Mar 2012 16:22:41
This probably wont be too popular among other utd fans, but i think the ideal replacement for the increasingly average looking evra is right under our noses in Leighton Baines.

I know he comes across as a fairly boring player, but he's got a quality delivery, he might not be quite as good going forward as evra but every time i see him he puts in a good shift defensively.

I genuinely can't remember him ever making a mistake, only just turned 27, wont break the bank and alot less risky than someone like alba.

May not be a superstar signing everyone wants, but it make sense.

Gpot7 {Ed004's Note - I don't rate him as high as others do on this site but whenever he plays a fast winger like Valencia he is destroyed}

19 Mar 2012 15:53:51
Shappy
further down the page you replyed to my post about Martinez as it would be imposable to sign him
why should united not be able tobsign thenest players in the world
jred

19 Mar 2012 13:43:44
United have won 25 Premier League points from a possible 27 since Paul Scholes came out of retirement (he has played in all 9)

Turning point.. we would all have to agree, but he can not go on for ever....

we need to add something in there in the summer aswell as those coming through from the youth....

come on fergie makes us all happy.....

oxred

19 Mar 2012 10:47:39
i thought someone on here had said that pogba had been told he wouldn't be playing or even getting on the bench till he signed a contract. So if that was true then with his sub appearances against athletic and wolves does this mean he's staying?

19 Mar 2012 10:44:12
Great performance yesterday, i know it was only a ten man wolves, but it has been a very trickey fixture in recent years. Would of liked more goals, but if we keep clean sheets, then the goal; difference will improve by itself.
Rooney, immense again, jonny evans, quality and toni. V, brilliant, he will be crucial for the next six games, due to his directness. with his work ethic and direct play it will be much more difficult for lower league teams to play against than nani's unpredicatability.
Next season we need hazard to improve in europe. in fact i only think we need him and lb. the formation we play now is what is needed for the next few years. With:
___Pogba___Cleverly/Petrucci
Toni.V____Rooney____Hazard
_______Welbeck/Chica______

I know were crying out for a midfielder, but i honestly believe if pogba stays, he could be the answer. Petrucci is also impressive, only his injury pass puts you off, but no doubt could be a very talented player.
Evra is finished and needs replacing in the summer, but apart from that, i know we have struggled this season and in the past couple of seasons, but when you look at the bigger picture, injurys have destroyed our opportunities in the cup comps.
if we can promote the youth who have learnt and developed the football we want to introduce, that will be much more effective than buying and quickly intergrating.
we do need that marque signing like a Hazard or Ozil, but if a team grows with one another the more desire they will have to perform, by not letting their mates down. look at the treble winning side, sure we had big money foreign imports like stam, but the nucalus was home based, youth products.
that is why i think we need baines, he is reliable and if he offers that steadiness can be consistantly in the side. the best defence is the one that plays together on a regular basis. look at g.Neville and Dennis Irwin, werent technically brilliant, but both grew with the defenders they played with. they also had there own personal skills. i.e crossing.
im being a sheep here by saying hazard but we need a more attacking player then defensive, as pogba could be a world beater.

aaallj5 {Ed004's Note - A minimum of one midfielder is required imo. Pogba and Cleverley should be made to work for their position and not garunteed it just because they look like they could become world class. It is only potential at the moment and what happens if one or both of them don't make it for whatever reasons, injury, a lack of confidence etc. Then who do we have to step in that could even get a look in at the Barcelona midfield.}

19 Mar 2012 09:48:38
All you Man U fans goin on about a RB when Rafael played immensly well yesterday he has really matured..

19 Mar 2012 09:11:02
''I think Andy Carroll has the potential to be
even better than Cavani in a few seasons
down the line, once he becomes clinical
infront of goal like we all know he's capable
off then lord show mercy on the opposition
with his strength and height''

can it get any better
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your favourite place to have a laugh

19 Mar 2012 07:35:30
stupid manchini was scouting hazard last night. he is full of s**t always want to sign our tagets.

but am sure hazard want 2 play for us. hazard had a blinder last night where he scored and asssited 2.