Manchester United Banter Archive May 19 2018

19 May 2018 22:28:01
Am i the only one who thinks we'll win the league next season? May be the red tinted glasses but i'm looking forward to it already lol, but come August and Valencia and Young are the 2 FB's then we've got no chance. Come On JOSEEEEE!

19 May 2018 23:04:10
Gds probably does.

20 May 2018 00:00:22
Problem is, what FB's would you go for? football is lacking good ones, or available good ones.

I don't see City running away with the title next season, I think more teams will attack them and exploit their weaknesses, their defence and it'll lead to them been in a battle with us and you fellas to get that league.

As much as it pains me to say, I don't think United are far off been where they should be, winning things. I don't like Jose, infact I can't stand him, if I was a united fan I'd want him out immediately but he's building something and I do see it working. It's make or break for him this summer imo. He needs to strengthen the right positions, if he fails to do so, next season it'll be the same old story but 2nd? it's not bad really is it, not in this league. Whatever he's doing seems to be working, for now.

20 May 2018 01:32:38
Hopefully Alex Sandro and Cancelo Salah. A lot of negativity at the moment, even more so when we lose, a bit of an overreaction at times. And you're right when you say its make or break for Jose, if it's the same next season i doubt he'll be here the season after due to a, like Ed002 said, toxic fanbase.

On City, hopefully the City players burn out more next season and teams take advantage of that defence, seems to get easily exposed when attacked. We definitely need to get the window right, the width in our team is non-existent, wouldn't mind seeing Pulisic coming in on the right aswell.

P. s. 7 dislikes on my original comment, Wow! Think it'd have more thumbs up if i slated Jose and the team instead of getting behind them😃.

20 May 2018 08:14:27
Yeah scholes mate that's exactly what you need, a few quality additions to go for it next season. Similar to us really, I think both us and United have shown this season we've improved dramatically but to compete for the title we need a few top class players adding to the ranks.

Stay positive Utd fans, after all you've had a good season and the most important thing is, it's just football, the be all and end all is, you've showed the league your capable again which concerns me!, don't let one cup loss turn your heads. Be confident and look forward to next season.

19 May 2018 22:02:39
In our last 4 games we have conceded the huge amount of 2 goals .
But that's ok because in our last 4 games we have also managed to score 2 goals .

2 goals scored in our last 4 games .

19 May 2018 22:17:14
It’s worse I think we only got one goal in our last 4.

19 May 2018 22:25:47
I hope we don't have to spend another quarter of a billion to fight for 2nd in PL and 2nd phase of UCL.

19 May 2018 22:29:54
And we conceded 5 in 5 prior to that, I know your a fan of Smalling and that’s fair enough and I know Jose has played him regular but imo he isn’t good enough for United, it’s a facade that we are great defensively, DDG has produced so many saves in games to keep clean sheets to the point he’s 5th behind Butland, Fabianksi, Ryan and Pickford for most shots saved, what does that tell you.
Smalling wasn’t bad today and my issue isn’t just Smalling but the mediocre back 4 and others we have that we are convincing ourselves are good enough to be on top in England and Europe, Just my option and I respect yours on the matter, I’m sure we both just want the same for united but for me Bailly is the best defender at the club and we are crying out for full backs and a centre back, wether Jose agrees we will see, I don’t like all this spending as much as the next fan but only so long I can wait for the current ones to reach that top level.

19 May 2018 23:00:09
Wrd
It's not a case of me rating smalling it the stupid post blaming everything on him ( that have been all season) .
He had a decent game today again but same people posting the same rubbish .
I like bailly but since he come back from injury he has struggled looked very rash and been all over the place.
No surprise he been dropped.

Our creativity, play in the last third, transition in cm, tempo have all been poor . Can't keep blaming the back 4 team only conceded 28 goals in 38 league games .
Didn't lose today because of smalling no matter how many times you post it .
Didn't get knocked out against Sevilla either 2 goals against over 180 minutes because of smalling. Mistakes from matic and the can do no wrong bailly .
Number of goals scored against them in 180 minutes 0.
Shots on target over 180 minutes. 4?

19 May 2018 23:03:34
Long time red
Yes my mistake 1 goal scored in our last 4 matches with the attacking talent we have .
How do other teams do it?

20 May 2018 08:01:43
I agree our attacking output is poor, seems to be a lack of cohesion up top, no tempo or energy and it’s baffling with the amount of talent we have on paper, something just isn’t clicking in this team.

19 May 2018 20:11:35
Well today shows again what we are missing all season, 2 full backs a centre back and a strong midfielder. Pogba is over rated and Sanchez offers very little. The purchase of 2 attacking full backs will be such a bonus. I do think we have the attacker s despite our performance, it down to the poor supply for me. If the team started the game as they played in the 25 mins in the second we would have won, why do we need to concealed to speed up our play . so frustrating.

19 May 2018 20:25:28
There will still be some saying we have the best center backs. Only conceded 2 goals this seaaon and are full backs are okay. 🤣🤣🤣.

19 May 2018 20:31:00
Absolute dogsh*t again. Rashford is nowhere near ready. Needs a loan. Love United hate this team.

19 May 2018 20:52:45
Smalling for 1 played well today 1 of the few to do ok first half .
First choice cb or maybe Jose just putting him in the shop window 🤣🤣 bailly and lindelof still behind him .
Chelsea didn't do much up top really .

Poor team performance first half, shape and tactics all over the place better second half .
90 minutes of football zero goals scored . Must be the defense.

19 May 2018 20:56:53
Singh you do know that posters on here don't pick the team . I get u don't like the CBS but there's loads of options and the guy picking the side likes them best at the minute.
Are they the greatest CBS in the world . nope, are they going to concede goals by the bucketful . nope. Are the fullbacks quite solid defending, yeah, do they contribute anything to the attack . nope there a bit pants at that . We would all buy new defenders and other positions aswell . We lost through two things a defensive error by Jones and our failure to score a goal again.

19 May 2018 21:00:17
Meh, whole team isn’t performing. No attacking direction other than move ball from side to side and hope for a mistake.

19 May 2018 21:01:06
Singh Jones and Smalling are average but I remember the great genius we have as a manager buying 2 cb's both were fit, wonder why he doesn't pick them, must be Jones and Smalling's fault.

19 May 2018 21:04:59
Sanchez gave 100%. Pogba was better in the second half. Chelsea played for the own, took the lead and then sat back. The Italian sam allardyce will still get sacked though.

19 May 2018 21:06:22
Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young is our staring back 4 and they are all stealing a living as a united player, we are seriously in trouble if this is what is seen as good enough for this club. I’m sick of seeing ‘but we’ve only conceded this amount’ yes because we’ve a world class keeper bailing them out all the time, it’s not a good defence when DDG is up there with relegated keepers for most shots saved. No cohesion up top, little tempo or speed and all season I’ve been waiting for it to click but it hasn’t sadly, Pogba and Sanchez cannot be in the same team together amd we are still 5 players and £300m of investment away from competing.
What baffles me most is for a club with the tradition and ethos of pretty much our entire history we’ve employed Moyes, LVG and Jose in succession, managers as far away from out ethos as you can get.
I will back Jose and have since day 1 to get it right but this style of football is wearing thin now.

19 May 2018 21:10:17
just watched Eintracht Frankfurt beat Bayern in German cup final.2 teams having a go, it had everythng . although the ref used VAR a lot. inclding a comedy goal in 96th minute- Bayern keeper went up for corner in 95th min at 1-2,frankfurt player won the ball on edge of own area and ran the length of the pitch with about 15 subs and squad players running along side him on the touchline . brilliant .

Wheras again we played like 11 strangers,8-9 of them looked like they wish they were somewhere else.

Some big problems at United, no cohesion, no plan and an awful lot of papering over cracks.

19 May 2018 21:51:08
Poor team performance today in the first half must be smalling fault . One of the few players to play well today .
Ddg made 1 save today.

But buy buy, shiney new toys like Miki linders bailly pogba Sanchez all struggled really .
I think we have gone backwards as a team since we bought the world Class Sanchez. That's probably goings fault.

19 May 2018 22:35:28
Smalling is a good enough defender. Jones is unfortunately nowhere near good enough for us and no idea how he’s got a seat on the plane to the World Cup.

Down the flanks, especially the right hand side we offer absolutely zero attacking threat at all, and not quite sure why we don’t try Rashford or Sanchez down there to offer something.

Another match cements my decision to not renew, and to not go today. It’s not entertaining or fun in the slightest and wit be until Jose hanged his spots (sure) or we bring in someone who wants to have a go and attack.

Dullest final I’ve seen in years. Chelsea were even worse than us but grinded out the win so congrats to them.

19 May 2018 22:41:55
Jred
I think Sanchez is the one thing I'd cut Jose a bit of slack on . When we were linked with ozil the vast majority wondered if it was possible to get Sanchez instead, he looked arsenal's player we coveted the most .
Nobody I doubt could have seen how bad he would be upto now and whatever the flaws in the tactics he has struggled in lots of games to make the most basic of passes despite appearing to try hard.
Jose was on a hiding to nothing whatever he did, if he took him out the team a good while ago and tried to work on tactics and confidence the minute we lost a game Jose would get pelters such as why did we lose with the big wages guy not even in the team, so he chose to keep playing him hoping he would improve, but that's fired up the martial thing as he may have had some indifferent games but not to the same degree as Sanchez.
I hope we do lots of work in the summer with him and his team mates as to what we are actually trying to do and hopefully his confidence picks up and he will look more like the player many of us hoped for.

19 May 2018 23:08:02
Slate
Did we need another lw? Which is where Jose has played him .

19 May 2018 23:28:52
I'm not really sure how we are utilising him jred, he duznt look too sure either, looks to me like a load of work on the training ground is needed on what we are actually trying to do when attacking I struggle to see what we actually work on . Hopefully Jose is going to make it a bit clearer to the players during the summer as it surely can't be going to plan attacking wise.

19 May 2018 23:44:29
Slate
We look all over the place up top and cm .
Don't create enough imo although reading above that's the fb job .

20 May 2018 00:15:19
I'm taking a guess the plan is two wide attackers play very narrow and use the two fullbacks for the width . But why persist with that when it's clearly not what the two fullbacks you keep selecting are any good at . Get new ones in and try it again I get, but why have we not changed that plan this season when we either haven't got the fullbacks to do that or don't select them . It's been pretty obvious for a long time we lack the width and that's not young and Valencia's strong points so why have we kept doing it. I think we need lots of training ground work on attacking in particular .

20 May 2018 01:57:27
I'm getting fed up with hearing Sanchez gives 100%. He gives the ball away so often it's not even funny.

20 May 2018 05:05:27
Nou don't you know Sanchez runs a lot, so what if he gives the ball away a 100 times, has no pace and looks more and more like Rooney, he runs around a lot so all is forgiven. Martial created more chances and threatened Chelsea more in his 20 mins than rashford, Sanchez and lingard combined in their whole time on field, but since he doesn't run like a brainless idiot he is going to be sold while the twit from Portugal is practically begging fellaini to stay.

19 May 2018 15:21:28
Looks like the new addition to the jm team is Stefano Rapetti.

19 May 2018 14:20:16
Best of luck to the team today. A win would be great a lot of our players have no world cup this summer so a win will make their summer break that bit better.

19 May 2018 15:19:02
Obviously hope for a win but get the feeling half our squad will think that justifies their form this seasons. A loss will give Jose more fire to get in better players and some of our players who appear happy just to play for us will maybe get shipped out or have all summer to reflect upon their game attitude and performances.

19 May 2018 09:54:33
Just a quick question for any eds and posters. Not United related I know but what do people make of Platinis comments regarding fixing the pots at the France 98 world cup? It didn't get much coverage yesterday.

{Ed001's Note - it really made a mockery of his denial of 'breach of ethics' that has led to his ban from football.}

19 May 2018 10:46:17
I agree. This of course was in 1998 and leading up to it. We are now 10 years on (even though it seems like not that long ago) . Got to question all other world cups and European competitions imo. Just the tip of the iceberg if he freely admits that and thinks it's ok.

19 May 2018 10:53:41
(20 years)

19 May 2018 11:10:29
I thought I put 20 years! Fut fongers.

19 May 2018 11:11:45
Maybe leave a contributing comment FZZ rather than a maths checker.

19 May 2018 11:30:44
I couldn't care less what football elites do. someone had to win it.

19 May 2018 11:43:17
Well i care in the integrity of the sport in regards to fixing, doping etc in all sports especially when it comes to club football and even international teams and tournaments, otherwise what is it? It's only for clubs and countries with the contacts to the most influential people in power and the most "creative" doctors and medical teams. I would definitely want to know the truth.

19 May 2018 12:13:32
France still smacked Brazil 3-0.

19 May 2018 13:13:14
Your missing the point Angel, and mentioning that game in particular had a lot going on pre match.

19 May 2018 13:30:00
Maybe FZZ feels equally as passionate about maths?

19 May 2018 13:54:02
I was going to mention that yesterday. Makes you wonder what else they've fixed over the years. How pots are fixed. Reminds me of how Wimbledon was fixed so the Williams could only meet in the final.

19 May 2018 08:56:02
I presume Herrera will be following hazard all over the pitch again today.
United just need to watch for him, Willian and crosses from halfway inside our half/ 40 yards out to the penalty spot.

19 May 2018 08:01:46
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 19th May 2018

19 May 2018 09:24:16
Great job Tris. At last, some clubs are making sensible managerial decisions, really pleased to see Moore get the West Brom job. Swansea, Everton, and West Ham haven’t messed about. Bit surprised about Lambert going, I assumed he was brought in with an eye to the, dropping down. Moyes (! ) is the preferred candidate apparently.

{Ed001's Note - so you start off with sensible decisions and end up with Moyes. Shows how far you can stray off course in just one post!}

19 May 2018 10:30:15
I didn’t say Stokes was sensible, that one surprised me.

{Ed001's Note - I know mate, I was just joking. You can't expect sensible from a club that employed Lambert really.}

19 May 2018 00:23:32
Just a thought, but with Allegri turning down Arsenal and Chelsea does anyone else think he is biding his time to come to OT. He was originally supposed to take over from LVG before Jose came in is it possible the move to make him manager may still happen in the near future.

19 May 2018 00:57:43
Would he provide the style of play our entire fanbase seems to be craving for though?

19 May 2018 02:24:23
We have Jose we don't need another manager. Jose has had a massive rebuilding job on his hands


Maybe we should back the manager we have before we become a club known for getting rid of managers when we don't win a title

Its a joke that people want him gone after 2 years of what I personally think we have made massive steps in a positive way especially with the team we currently have.

To many people are use to success under fergie. The reality is fergie era is long gone.

Stop living in the past and support the manager we have.

19 May 2018 05:17:36
Bolger shushhhhhhh.

19 May 2018 05:51:40
🎣 🐟 🐠 🤣🤣.

19 May 2018 07:58:48
Ed did mentioned allegiri feels like we have screwed him over ao i don't think he is an option.

19 May 2018 13:11:15
Bolger 😁😁😁.