Manchester United Banter Archive January 01 2012

01 Jan 2012 23:46:09
Does anyone know when Ravel Morrison's contract expires? I thought it was 2014. Ed do you know?

ELF001 {Ed001's Note - I believe it to be 2014 too.}

01 Jan 2012 22:58:03
Read with interest all the recent comments. My wish for 2012 would be for Fergie to bring a new , young, innovative coach into his back room team. Sorry,but I think that Phelan and Van Meulenstein have had their time at OT and perhaps their methods and influence have become stale ? They don't come across as being the most inspirational of coaches and perhaps it's time to freshen this up, more so when one considers Fergies age. Out there must be some budding Guardiolas and Mourinhos who would jump at the chance of working with Fergie and bring some new ideas into the club.
Fergie is a god and we all recognise that ( at least we should do ) but he has to have quality in and around him , who are constantly working at raising standards and keeping the players motivated.

01 Jan 2012 22:37:23
Is this a rumour or berba is really getting a contract extension. So what do u guys & ed think is he worth it ? {Ed001's Note - personally no, I don't think he works hard enough to deserve a new contract.}

01 Jan 2012 22:23:08
everyone makes mistakes ,even fergie.but hes making to many at moment blackburn palace basile weak team selections,i wonder how much say mikey phelan has,just hope we can hang in there till injuries clear

01 Jan 2012 21:34:33
One thing that we as fans arent seeing now is that Fergie seems to have lost the hunger he had for success for Man U...,Coaching Man U is like a routine check to him,pushing time and SAF has accumulated so much power,status and fame at United that he knows nobody can fire him,so he can do what he wants and then apologises and move on..Fergie is now complacent guys,,yes he is a legend and i wont take that away from him,but its time we put a new mind,fresh and hungrier for success....what do u think guys and Edd? {Ed001's Note - I don't believe that for a second.}

01 Jan 2012 21:27:12
I think there is probably some degree of truth to these stories about SAF having had an argument with Rooney. He was rested for a majority of the Wigan game and whilst we do play Newcastle on Wednesday, he wasn't even on the bench against Blackburn. It's just the equivalent of having a CL game midweek. I also think that there is a possibility that Rooney would have dispelled these rumours if they were utter rubbish on his twitter account. I'm sure we will found out more in the coming weeks.

Rudderpost

01 Jan 2012 21:10:15
fergie go and get em in summer bale and torres make us great, really get fans going.spend some money please

01 Jan 2012 20:26:28
Ji Dong Won has scored more goals this year than Messi, Ronaldo and Van Persie combined.

01 Jan 2012 19:38:06
For people urging for a big name signing..
Guyzz is Martinez , Eriksen , Modric , Alba , Hazard , Gotze , Shaqiri , Gaitan etc available for a transfer in Jan..? Have they moved to any other club..? No..
When Clubs moved for our target Phil Jones we moved in with 16.5 M to get him..
dint we..? So be sensible..

For People crying about Pogba and Morrison being not played or given chances

They maybe technically gifted n ready , physically ready but are they mentally ready to step up..? SAF is the best person who knows them as he has seen them more than u and me.. Plus Fergie has always been particular about this thing in Youth..

For a youth player playing for Blackburn rovers and for Manchester United is a HUGE difference..! So guyzz get real and support SAF and the beloved Club..!

Shaun

01 Jan 2012 19:02:32
snidjer £25 million

01 Jan 2012 18:52:48
I'm extremely worried now,especially after Fergies latest comments,'why should we try n put a sticking plaster on our team'.firstly fergie your admitting there's a problem but you don't want to do anything about it.crazy if you ask me.
'Ryan Griggs and Michael carricks form have been outstanding'.?? I don't know if anyone agree but Ryan Giggs maybe still a threat but couldn't play week in week out at his age and Michael carrick in my opinion is and has been the worst utd midfielder last season and this season apart from the last 3 games where he has buckt up a tad.
then he goes on to say that,his only worry is his centre backs,that going forward and midfield are ok??
Is he drinking to much whiskey lately?yes we are a shambles at the back because of injuries,but our midfield is also in tatters even with no injuries.right now he's trying to put versatile players in the middle instead of giving the young players a chance.but it's blatantly obvious he needs to buy 2 top midfielders and it goes behond belief with the record and experience of Alex ferguson,he doesn't recognise or doesn't want to invest in doing so to sort the problem,especially when we are already out of cl and are on a slow decline.
IMO I can't see us winning anything this season or next season if Fergies doesn't go and invest in 2 midfielders and 1 striker especially if berba,Owen,maceda,are going.well I think he shud get rid of them nway.


Super red

01 Jan 2012 18:10:59
sandro from tottenham anyone ?

01 Jan 2012 17:51:15
at old trafford sat massive rumours doing rounds in our section , about tom huddlestone joining early jan .is he eligiable for europe

01 Jan 2012 17:39:35
we are actually losing fairly (except newcastle draw) whereas city have been unlucky with the goal today and the chelsea non penalty

city are ahead of us but we got to take advantage of the officials

01 Jan 2012 17:26:11
i agree with sticking plaster comment we dont need to buy average players in jan just for a stop gap .fergies job is to identify top targets get the cash and go for them in summer .when injurys clear up we should be ok ,but he should be giving youngsters the chance when we are in this current situation .every other prem team does it thats the belief they need ,take blackburn sat kean not worryed about throwing young lads in at deep end

01 Jan 2012 17:18:00
fergie must admit he got it wrong yesterday with team selection but if he had seen sunderland crowd behind there team today atmosphere fantastic he must be thinking where were you sat to our crowd i must admit we all turn up every home game expecting utd to walk it .the best atmospheres are when we are behind with 10 mins to go,everyone then eggs team on no end. one jealous utd fan of the atmosphere at stadium of light.

01 Jan 2012 16:56:16
let's forget yesterday's game , points table is still the same at the top anyway,
U. P.

01 Jan 2012 16:54:36
Sunderland have done us a huge favour there. Proof that there is still a long way to go in the title race yet.

Rjmanutd

01 Jan 2012 16:13:52
You all want to get a grip.

*Rooney gets rested for a game we were expected to win and suddenly he's being sold.

*The Mirror spends the last 2 months s**t stirring over Pogba's contract and now they've moved on to s**t stirring over Morrisons contract and you all believe them?

The Mirror is one of the most anti-United papers there is. Staffed full of glory hunting scouse supporters and one of the worst rags for blowing smoke up Wengers backside over his wonderful youth policy whilst ignoring 6 years without a trophy and the fact our kids are better.

Yes Fergie made a mistake in team selction, we deserved to lose. The whole birthday rubbish should have been saved for full time.

I notice everyone has missed the comment he made before kick off that he is off in 3 years time.

We'll bounce back. This is one of the worst injury crises i have seen and we do need to do something, but as has been said which top clubs will sell their best players in January?

Should we panic buy and end up with players like Gary Cahill? Someone only on the same level as the much maligned Jonny Evans?

The players we want, the players that can imporve us like Ozil, Eriksen etc etc will not be available in January, its an awful time for top clubs to do business, its just a market for panic buys and the relegation fodder to try and sign players. I see today quotes from Harry Redknapp saying that he will only buy in January if a special player is available. Exactly the same words that Fergie used.

So stop weeping and wailing, man up and grow a pair and support the club. Keep the pressure on the Glazers to get the chequebook out, but don't expect world class till the summer.

01 Jan 2012 14:39:16
I believe Gibson was there in his new role and Rooney took the Mrs along to offer some support - I understand ,however, that they were left very disappointed by the service - I do hope he sticks with it tho as he has the makings of a great waiter

01 Jan 2012 14:09:38
Good afternoon Guys
To say I was gutted after yesterday's result is an understatement but for alot of people to call for Fergie's head is unbelieveable.Have people actually forgotten what this man has done for our club and continues to do for us.No doubt he got it wrong yesterday but lets judge him at the end of the season not in January.We should be getting behind our team we have not got a God given right to win every match we have to earn the right to win and Yesterday Blackburn deserved to win.
I still have total faith in Fergie and the lads.

Bazza The Red

01 Jan 2012 13:30:13
Everyone here likes to play who they want in and out. So just for a bit of change lets play another one.
Name the players that you will be disappointed to see if they were signed (only the ones that are being linked). Take into account their abilities, price and specially how they can change our team.
(1). Rodwell: Wont bring anything new to our already amazing squad. Can be a squad player though, if he costs around 8m.
(2). Modric: He is not World Class. He maybe good but not even worth 25m. Another Carrick (without defensive qualities). Would like to have him if he is available for around 18m.
(3). Sneijder: Why to waste 25m and such high wages on a player who will be missing half of our matches, many of which might be important ones. Very injury prone but is World Class so would like to see him if available for 20m and on a pay as you play package.
(4). Gaitan: Though the rumors have slowed down but if he comes I would be devastated. Not worth 30m or 25m or even 20m. Would have him for upto 17m or maybe 20m as his wages are very less.
(5). Torres: Why waste so much money? Even if he finds his form we'll again have to look for his replacement in 3 or 4 years. Right now Berba is better than him.
(6). Khedira: Not so sure about this one but he doesnt seem to be good enough. Real wont drop him for no reason.

Might be forgetting a few names but feel free to add and even blast me for some of my choices.
HAPPY NEW YEAR to all.

01 Jan 2012 13:10:51
I think fans who have paid their hard earned money to watch at Cold Trafford have a right to boo the 'stars', and even the great SAF, when the effort is not the best.

We would all be in trouble at work if we were not doing our best.

01 Jan 2012 12:41:57
Utd v Schalke last year.... So why shouldn't SAF try it against Blackburn. Sometimes it works sometimes it won't!

01 Jan 2012 11:15:45
Manchester United target Wesley Sneijder is back on Sir Alex Ferguson's radar with Inter Milan willing to sell the Dutch star to any club who meets their £25 million valuation.

Inter president Massimo Moratti has met with the Dutchman’s agent, Soren Lerby, and told him his client will be allowed to leave if the asking price is met, according to the People.

Manager Claudio Ranieri does not want to lose Sneijder but Moratti is planning for the future and is keen to build a new-look Inter around rising Brazilian star Lucas, it said.

Ranieri is involved in a battle to keep Sneijder at the San Siro.

“Sneijder is our crown jewel,” said Ranieri. “He is not just a squad member, he is the main man. He has to be the leader of the team.

“I don’t want him to go anywhere. I want him to stay here at Inter. He belongs here in this squad. There is still so much room for improvement and more success here.”

Now, Ranieri has admitted that there is fresh interest in the 27-year-old – and Sir Alex Ferguson has said that United’s owners will back him in the transfer market if a top player becomes available.

Selling Sneijder would allow Inter to make their move for Sao Paulo’s 19-year-old attacking midfielder, who has already been capped 10 times.

Dutch international midfielder Sneijder has been a long-term target for Manchester United and could have moved to Old Trafford in the summer if he had reduced his £250,000-a-week wage demands.

Sneijder, who is back to full fitness after suffering with injury problems

01 Jan 2012 10:12:26
Well to say I was raging coming out of that ground yesterday was an understatement. Disgrace absolute disgrace. Complete and utter disrespect for not only me and 70 odd thousand like me, but to Blackburn as well. Part of me is glad Blackburn won to show him up for what he is. There is every likelihood that the next time we kick a ball in anger in the premiership we will be 6 points behind them lot. That coupled with an anticipated mauling next Sunday in the FA cup.

That is how important yesterday was and he fields a team like that. Drops a keeper who has kept clean sheets regularly. Plays about 6 players out of position and then has the audacity to come on the television blaming everyone apart from himself.

We aren't good enough to field weakened sides anymore and don't reply to this going on about injuries it doesn't wash with me. Quantify the CL exit if your going to do that.

Me and fans like me want answers now. Have we got the money or not? Furthermore would it make any difference if you are not going to play your star players anyway. We got ourselves back in to a fantastic position in the league, having the advantage after the derby of not having to play anyone worth talking about. Boxing Day I was cock a hoop, them dropping points and knowing that we could start 2012 3 pts clear at the top of the pile.

Through one persons complete arrogance and disrespect for opposition, now look at the picture. Don't blame the Glazers they don't pick the team. I felt more sorry for blokes there yesterday walking out with young kids on there shoulders having to answer questions like 'Why didn't Rooney or Giggs play daddy'. The shocking truth is even if we would have bought Sniejder, Messi and Iniesta in the Summer they would have probably been in the stands wearing United tracksuits yesterday.

Thanks for everything you have done for the club down the years, but you are not more important than the club and you are beginning to get on my wick. Now go

Mike the Moston Red

01 Jan 2012 09:36:14
All you idiots who are coming on here criticising SirAlex and the team should open their eyes and see where the real problem lies. Sir Alex is doing an unbelievable job with his hands financially tied having a net spend of less than Stoke in the last 5 years he has still produced a team challenging for the title. He is getting the best from some very mediocre players but that is his magic. Imagine if he had owners who wanted to invest in the club rather than rape it. I know people will come on and say same old RAINFISHTROMBONE going on about the Glazers, but remember what I said about lack of investment and an ever weaker squad. Please don't come on and tell me the money is available if Fergie wants it when it is quite obviously not. Yes Fergie protects the owners and he has his own reasons for that but remember today he will be hurting just as much as you or I and making sure we are right back on track starting on Wednesday.RAINFISHTROMBONE

01 Jan 2012 09:21:11
So now the FA report is out and it is proved that Suarez is not only a racist but a lying one at that will Liverpool and Dogleash finally show some class and humility by condemning their player for the vile scum that he is. And to add to that now you Liverpool supporters who didn't have a new years eve as you were so busy on this site come out and condem the man and your club and manager for the way they have behaved? RAINFISHTROMBONE {Ed002's Note - If you had read the report you would know it explicitly states Suarez is not a racist.}

01 Jan 2012 08:58:56
People are slating "Plastic" fans for being upset at our current lack of options. Please understand this...I have been a united fan for over 25 years and things just dont seem right at the minute. Infact things havent seemed right since we sold Ronaldo. United need more creativity thats obvious...I dont believe going out and sepnding bucket loads of money is the answer, but it has to concern you that Fergie comes up with the same excuses in each transfer window...no value in market etc...clubs must move with inflation or get left behind...and that is what is happening at united atm...the club need to move forward and MUST sign someone to fill the holes in CM and Defence...

01 Jan 2012 07:44:33
All u de gea haters need to sort your heads out! People on here describing him as the worst keeper ever?? Wow u guys are a joke!! Trust me de gea wil have the last laugh. In a few years he wil b best in the world! Reina stil makes mistakes, cech does, van der sar did. It happens to them all. Ur just trying to find a scapegoat to blame it all on. Lindegaard is good at organising the defense but it's onli cos he speaks English. Once de gea speaks fluent he wil b fine. Keep the faith in him.

Big Mac

01 Jan 2012 01:31:09
I really do wish people would stop s**t stirring with regards to pogba and morrison. None of you know whats going on with contracts. None of you are in the know.

01 Jan 2012 01:02:21
lindegard smalling jones rio/vidic evra nani cleverly wilthshire bale rooney hernandez side to take utd forward next season

01 Jan 2012 00:48:02
if fergie dont do clear out and buy big in summer utd will be behind city spurs chelsea arsenal and liverpool next season because they are gonna add to strong squads

01 Jan 2012 00:40:31
This has gone too far - Fergie's gotta go. It was bad after the Man C result but now beaten by the bottom club - it's getting embarrassing. Time for Steve McClaren or Pardew to take over.

cozinoz