Manchester United Banter Archive June 01 2011

01 Jun 2011 23:41:11
Micheal Owen was offered a further year for the same reason he was recruited an a free. It was financial prudence. He has done nothing in the season to warrant a further year and the fact that SAF has suggested that an ageing and lack of pace Owen will get more game time next year is absurd. If I were Morrison or Will Keane I would be saying that we could sit on the bench and make just as much impact as Owen has last year for much less than 50k a week. If this doesn't put off young players coming to OT nothing will. This is a joke and a clear indication as to the quality of player will be recruit this year. Financial constraints are at the forefront of everything we are doing! Posters saying that Owen is happy to sit on the bench, and therefore a good signing. you bet your life he is happy, wouldn't you be?

01 Jun 2011 23:33:24
The glazers have dug deep in previous seasons. Berb was 35million. If u tot up da smaller buys last season that still added up too over 20 million. Fergie himself said 3-4 big signings will be made. Keep the faith please. Its only a few days since r season ended.

01 Jun 2011 23:18:38
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Look for the thread 'Interesting reading' and enjoy!

Jono!

01 Jun 2011 22:31:17
I love Man United. . but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE will Manchester United fans stop being stupid and understand that there is no major amounts of money to spend. . Flip sake!

Why was Sir Alex looking Paul Scholes to sign for another year. . . . .Why has he offered Michael Owen a further year. . . . and why have we gave Ryan Giggs another year. . . GREAT PLAYERS YEAH but lets all think about it. Past there best comes to mind.

We have players coming back from loan spells. . Cleverly, Macheda, Wellbeck, Diouf.etc and we won the Youth Cup and Fergie has already stated he will be keeping them next season.

We are close to signing a new GK called David De Gea who is 20. . . and he will not cost 17m up front! Its around 8m plus add ons.

We are after a young French defender from Lens for around 3 Mil. . What does that tell ya. .

But the Glazer family will i promise you sign a BIG NAME PLAYER. Anything to win over deluded Man Utd fans because that's what they are like. .

Dont expect alot of money to be spent but expect 6 players coming in, and don't be suprised if there is a major departure to raise cash. .

Nani. . .
Anderson. .
Vidic. . .
Evra. . .
Berbatov. . .
WATCH THIS SPACE

Keep the faith but keep your head screwed on

01 Jun 2011 22:11:50
To the guy who said messi to city ive just been on the city rumours website (the shame of it lol ) and it says nothing about messi

01 Jun 2011 21:29:03
reports in spain suggest that guiseppi (spelling) rossi to barcelona is a done deal. personally i think that would be a terrible career move for him, but i guess they are famous last words. did we ever look back after selling him does anyone know? buy back clause true or false?

01 Jun 2011 21:19:33
our probable lineup next season
De Gea
Rafeal / Fabio Vidic Ferdinand Evra

Sanchez De rossi Snijder/Modric Valencia

Rooney Benzema
What do you think ed? {Ed007's Note - I could live with that}

01 Jun 2011 21:13:57
I noticed something. 2009, Ronaldo left. We needed a winger. We looked at Ribery. We signed up Valencia. 2010, we needed a striker. We looked at Benzema/Villa. We signed up Hernandez. We relied on gambles then although they turned out great. We signed up players that get merchandise revenue. Can you see us getting Sanchez for some of the same reasons. Gilly

01 Jun 2011 20:18:49
BREAKING NEWS: Sepp Blatter has awarded the 2026 world cup to Antartica, so that players and fans can recover from the unbearable heat of Qatar! Penguins have been accused of bribing FIFA. .GAN, what have you got to say on this development?"""
dear unnamed sir
what a load of. .
development schmedopment
ngiak denies everything, where do you get these outrageous stories from?
stop popping those stuff and reading from crappy websites
FIFA are a decent outfit
penguins are very uprighteous animals.
gan
ps. .psst. .where did you find this out?
pps. .does the theat of world domination constitute as bribery?

01 Jun 2011 19:48:43
now i doubt we'll sign a new striker simply because we don't need one, signing owen up for another year is a great idea as he offers alot and is cheap meaning the money is there to spend on where we need it. At the moment we have rooney hernandez berbatov owen welbeck macheda diouf king cofie keane all on our books, that's 10 strikers whats the plan play them all and a goalkeeper to beat barca? I espect berbatov and macheda to leave with king going out on loan. Diouf and Welbeck will be staying and be given more chances with rooney and hernandez as first choice and owen as back up. We don't need anyone else, why spend millions for a bench warmer when we could spend it on much needed midfield reinforcements. If your questioning on weather we have money to spend then i surgest you think about who will be playing in goal for us next year, it'll be a 20m young spanish lad. So don't tell me that we don't have money to spend, it might not be a bottomless pit like at city but we'll have enough to buy wat we need. Sir alex said that we'll sign 3 players i expect a GK a defensive midfielder and a creative midfielder then maybe a few youngsters.
Shappy

01 Jun 2011 18:52:04
Some people on here have no idea. owen signing a new deal is not proof of a lack of funds, it shows common sense, when we won the treble we had a good striker happy to be on the bench and people then didn't moan. Its the same now, just its owen rather than solskjaer. it gives us a proven goalscorer ready on the bench. And it by no means suggests berba is off or staying. fergie has a point when he says theres no value in the market. Carroll for 35m? Torres 50m? Hellooo? If anything id say SAFs point has been proven.

People were moaning last summer and look what happened. League no 19 and runners up in the Champions League to probably the best team going atm. if you want to complain that no big quality signings have been made, at least wait until September when we'll know for sure, and when we do get them, the same people who moan will say they said we got them.

Believe in fergie!

What do you think? gan, Syd!, Ed?

P.s. ed when do you suspect we'll start hearing of the bigger transfers going through, be it international or domestic? thanks :)

SK {Ed007's Note - Domestic transfers should start happening soon, international ones can't "technically" be done till 1st of July

01 Jun 2011 18:51:30
Surely the reason why Michael Owen has been kept on has to do with the development of Hernandez and Welbeck. Hernandez we all know has outshone the expectation and will gain valuable positional knowledge. With Welbeck playing mainly reserve team football (+Carling Cup) and going out on loan he has not really had the chance to play with a striker at the level of Owen, so it will be an important year for him on the training ground - Could be the future of England's front line.

Also signals for me that Berbatov is on his on his way. .

Four strikers for 11/12 - Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck, Owen (+ AN Other maybe young signing)

Moz

01 Jun 2011 18:23:01
Why do people think utd have a bottomless pit of money. Hundreds of millions in debt and recently recorded a loss. Fergies only spent about half of the ronaldo money which was 2 seasons ago now, and there are plenty of areas to strenghten. The fact that Owen has been given a new deal speaks volumes. He's re-signed him knowing he's half decent back up on low wages(compared to others) and someone who doesn't mind sitting on the bench. He's obviously forcing berbatov out as he still has some re-sale value, hence the owen deal. Also, previously if a player had a falling out with SAF then they would be out the door, but anderson has been allowed to work his way back in. More proof the money isn't there to to replace him. It'll be a pre season of selling to help buy this year and with scholes and neville retiring, Giggs on his last legs, no real match winner in center mid, there are quite a few areas that need strenghtening. De Gea seems done and possible Young but I can't see beyond that unless Utd sell a fair few players.

01 Jun 2011 18:00:05
I think we should sell Rooney, Berbatov, Hernandez, Nani, Valencia, Park, Vidic, Rio and the other dead wood. We need players that compliment each other. It was really exciting to hear that Michael Owen has signed a new contract. Don't forget, Owen's salary is a snip at 50k a week, and starting a whole 1 prem league game last season, you just can't get better value than that! I thought Micheal was outstanding at Wembley on Saturday, and the way he sat on that bench and didn't suffer any long-term injury when getting up, he deserved man of the match. If we had the money I would like us to sign Emile Heskey. He had a great partnership with Michael (who could forget Germany 1 England 5).
Seeing that David Gill told that government committee our transfer funds in the bank have already been spent, (although just as a point of detail no players have arrived and the money hasn't moved), we probably can't afford this, but if we could buy West Ham's back four and maybe one or two Dagenham midfielders, with the icing on the cake. .Charlie Adam on loan from Blackpool! Then we can really show those Barcelona chaps a thing or two next time! In the Glazers we trust.

01 Jun 2011 17:18:26
"Michael Owen's signed a new deal. With him, Diouf and Welbeck returning next year, I hope there is enough room for a new striker."

Seriously, why do people want a new striker. Our main striker has supposedly had a bad season and we are still finding the net more often than any other team.

With the strikers we have, we really don't need to spend any money in that area. Owen has resigned today, which i think is a great decision. If he is fit for the season, he will score some important goals, theres no doubt about that.

Berba to me is still not a guaranteed goalscorer, his goals this season are very misleading considering the way they were spread across games. But, he does provide us with a striker who can hold the ball.

Add in the return of Wellbeck, Diouf and possily macheda and there is just no room.

Owen re-signing today says it all, unless Berba goes, which is highly unlikely IMO, we will not be seein ganother striker at OT this coming season.

If chicarito gets injured we have noone to put in simple
If u think welbeck diouf Mach are good enough I suggest specsavers

01 Jun 2011 17:06:41
01 Jun 2011 16:32:00
MAN U SIGNS:
A YOUNG £27M
S DOWNING £18M
C EASTMOND £3M
A ARSHAVIN £36M
W SNEIJDER £10M
R HUTH + ETERINTON £20M

OUT

FERDINAND REAL £20M
FAB + RAF LOAN TO SWANSEA
BEBE ATLETICO MADRID £9M
OBERTAN LOAN TO LYON (HOPEFULLY FOREVER)

No wonder your shouting, people probably ignore you normally because of the rubbish you obviously talk! £36M for Arshavin who wouldn't get in our team, Eastmond. .Why?? Pogba is a better player. The twins out on loan! ! £10M for Sneijder! ! Go back to the Liverpool forum where you belong.

Bazza

01 Jun 2011 17:00:12
Lol guy with Utd ins, are you insane?? 36 mil for arshavin, 9 mil for bebe??? Your post is the best laugh I've had all day!

01 Jun 2011 16:33:46
Tell us more about that Hazard deal. .

01 Jun 2011 15:39:59
"United now need to replace 2 midfielders. Obviously Scholes after his retirement - farwell to the legend, but also Hargreaves. When Barca were defeated on route to Moscow, Hargreaves was phenomonally good at containing Xavi & Iniesta. Since then we haven't gotten anywhere near them.
For Scholes I think the names banded about so far would do a good job - Modric, Sneijder, Pastore or Ganso, but all of these would need some protection in midfield to play their attacking game. De Rossi, Xabi Alonso or Schweinsteiger would do an excellent job in this respect. My preference would be Xabi Alsonso or Schweinsteiger. Could we sign either of these guys?

Thoughts Ed or anyone?

Adz"

On the route to Moscow in 08 Hargreaves played right back with as Wes Brown was moved infield to replace the injured Vidic. The Brilliant midfield that contained Xavi and Iniesta was actually the trio of Park, Carrick and Scholes. Just Saying.

01 Jun 2011 15:25:08
So is that the first of your big signing's OWEN.

01 Jun 2011 14:14:11
What I can't understand with you lot is that we were well beaten by a side that holds the ball and then finds a pass. There is no directness no agression just quality and holding onto the ball. Does that sound familiar well think about it. We have a player who would fit into the Barcelona side perfectly his name is Berbatov. He has excellent control brilliant ability and finds a good pass Oh yes i forgot and finishes the top goal scorer in his league and yet you lot are desperate to get rid of him go figure. RAINFISHTROMBONE

01 Jun 2011 13:36:43
berbatov has stated he is not leaving in the summer, and that he and SAF haven't had a falling out, he said he was in the dressing room in the CL final because he didn't want the fans to see how sad he was.

01 Jun 2011 13:14:01
are nani and valencia good for united to beat barca?
valencia depends on crossing and too direct , totally non effective against barca
nani has no idea of what to do with the ball after going into box.mostly waste if provided a chance against barca

both are good only upto chelsea level

if we want to beat barca we not only want two world class CM's , want two CR7 like wingmen on both wings too

01 Jun 2011 13:02:13
i never doubt SAF but today has really annoyed me, how on earth does he not see that owen is kak, he might help out with the youth yeah but if they were as good as people make out then they will learn on there own, it's going to be another one of those boring transfer windows where we get average players and SAF and gill come out and make out those signing are top class, it's a joke, atleast with mourinho he signs good players, just hope SAF isn't losing it in his old age.

01 Jun 2011 12:32:06
With chelsea spending 78 million in january
Liverpool spending 58 Million
City Spending 27million on dzeko
Barca look set to spend 40 million on Guiseppe Rossi

I believe now is the time to spend big I hope we get sanchez that guy is quality

01 Jun 2011 12:23:34
I don't have any contacts, i'm just a Man Utd fan my whole life. And from following the Man Utd and seeing Fergies philosophy for years, the following makes perfect sense. I'm hoping this is the way Fergie goes and doesn't change his philosophy.

If Man Utd decide to go on this big spending spree, I am just wondering, what will become of the upcoming talent??
Welbeck, Pogba, Cleverly, Morrison, De Laet, Macheda, Tunnicliffe, Petrucci - to name a few. These guys have to be given a chance.
I don't think that Fergie is going to buy the quantity of players that people expect.
Yes, he will add a goal keeper, a Centre midfielder and may a young winger.

People keep mentioning full backs, why on earth would we buy a full back, Fabio & Rafael will be our full backs for years to come - Quality

We also do not need stikers, we have quality young strikers - we need people to provide these strikers we currently have with goal scoring opportunities

I believe Fergie will shake up(Overhaul) the squad but i would think that would mostly be promoting the talent we have. We have some seriously talented youngsters and must utilise this resource.

01 Jun 2011 11:59:14
Why does everyone think that Diouf will come back in to the first team. I would much rather see Macheda come back for the first team/impact sub and sell Diouf but that is IMO.

Walrus

01 Jun 2011 11:37:41
Oh my God, why oh why has Owen been given a new contract?

Syd, MPez, gan, anybody on here, any Editors, please alleviate my fears here. SAF barely acknowledged Owen's existence this season; the guy must have made, what, 3-4 appearances? With Berbatov rumoured to be leaving, SAF has now handed Owen a new deal and hopes Michael will be given more playing time next season.

Now, with Welbeck/Machida/Diouf out on loan, its highly likely 2 of them will be leaving. . .I'll assume the latter two. If SAF is looking to play Owen more, then with Rooney, Chicha, Welbeck surely there is no room for a big-name striker to be signed this summer?!

If we did, Owen would never play, so what would be the point of this new deal?

Please guys, help me calm down, please say this isn't going to be another 'one of those' pre-seasons in the transfer market?

RED_SKY

01 Jun 2011 10:58:44
I was flicking through the tv last night and britains got talent was on, i said to myself nah it couldn be i had to rub my eyes and look again it was wayne rooney singing wiv amanda holden as shrek did you see it ed? Des y.n.w.a {Ed007's Note - Britains Got Talent? Are you serious? I imagine your name is false and sometimes you will walk alone}

01 Jun 2011 10:45:44
Sweinstiger is not q defensive midfielder people should really watch the players play before saying they should join united.

Loons

01 Jun 2011 10:07:18
Micheal Owen just signed a new one year deal.

01 Jun 2011 10:04:07
Owen has signed a 1 year contract extension. This will be posted on sky sports news shortly. WATCH THIS SPACE! !

01 Jun 2011 09:42:53
Dimitar Berbatov to Inter Milan with sneidjer to utd for 25 mil.

20 mil for kaka + nani

lucka modric 24 mil + carrick

Right so we are going to give a 24 yr old Nani who is proven in EPL plus 24 mill for a 29 yr old crock who wouldn't last ten mins in Prem.

Hmmmm yeah makes sense alright. . . NOT! !


Red Knight.

01 Jun 2011 07:50:18
31 May 2011 22:58:01

just heard snidjer (sorry 4 the spelling) has signed 4 us for 27million + nani
Now are you rating nani at only 7m or schneider at around 52m? Although would love to see him at united not as a replacement for scholes though as for me scholes is irreplaceable.
Whitey.

01 Jun 2011 00:41:22
Hopeully we will sign some excellent players, take them on tour to gel with the team and then bring them out for Paul Scholes testomonial(if he has one) against barca

01 Jun 2011 00:06:34
EDS is the window open for transfers in england to england transfers or can Man united now sign De gea ? {Ed007's Note - It is just for national transfers, international ones can't be finalised till 1st July, technically}