Manchester United Banter Archive March 01 2013

01 Mar 2013 21:32:16
So next season we have a forty year old in the squad. So here's my predictions for summer. We sign a second choice keeper to sit on the bench. We sign a teenage centreback for the future. We spend twenty to thirty million on a winger. We sign a striker we don't need. But we don't sign the midfielder we've needed for four years.

So we do all that - and how many points will we be clear at the top of the table - without the midfielder "we need"?
There is a reason why SAF is the manager and you are not capable of putting your name to a comment.

I'll be stunned if we don't sign a midfielder this summer. We'll have Scholes and maybe Fletcher retiring and possibly Anderson leaving.

Shappy

01 Mar 2013 22:05:57
Mike its all very well dominating a weak premier league where all our major rivals have dropped the ball and been responsible for messing up this season but for the champions league we will need to strengthen. We'll probably end up dropping rooney back into midfield and he'll be hailed as the answer and pushing Jones forwards.

Mike totally agree. Shappy also agree think we will sort the midfield. Noname you're being a bit negative there IMO, save your pessimism for the end of the summer, if at all.

No name,

They have all 'dropped the ball' have they? How about we have more points after this many games than any team has ever got, and that's after playing all our main rivals away from home. Some united fans will never be happy, your post sounds like you are a pathetic spoilt glory hunter.

We probably will buy a midfielder in the summer especially is scholes retires or fletcher is never going to come back. I remember people posting on here at the beginning of August saying they didn't even want their season ticket because our midfield was so poor this season we will be lucky to get top 4. How silly they look now!

02 Mar 2013 01:12:16
the midfield has been poor though this season its only down to carrick and cleverley doing so well that's papered over the cracks. Where's the sense in keeping a forty year old on. Experience? We have players with experience. We should be pushing through players half his age. Roll on twelve months and we'll probably be discussing this again. Its not glory hunting to state the fact that at some point we have to sign a top class midfielder.

Classic post that, our midfield has been poor, if it wasn't for our two first choice centre mid pairing it would have looked even worse! Classic.

Giggs has got a contract to add experience and is well worth it.
Saf will hopefully buy a world class midfielder, my choice will be moutinho or ozil. And hopefully we'll also strengthen defence with a proven center half. If we can sell Rooney then I'll be happy to get another striker in. Falcao will be the best but doubt it'll happen. so I'm
Sure fergie knows what he's doing.

The midfield has been poor but Carrick and cleverley have done 'so well'. Aren't they the midfield? That's like saying our right backs have been dreadful but Rafael has saved them by being brilliant.

02 Mar 2013 10:52:19
So what other midfielders do we have apart from carrick and cleverley? Scholes is past it. Fletcher is seriously ill. Anderson is always injured. One injury to carrick and the whole house of cards comes tumbling down. But don't worry we can throw a forty year old in there. No wonder pogba left. Who's next out? Our midfield has been poor this season. Some games its been awful. There's a lack of strength in depth compared to other departments. And I can't see it changing in the summer. Anderson will get yet another chance. Fletcher will be given time for another come back. And we'll probably end up signing a bebe like signing for midfield with rooney pushed back and hailed as the saviour. Which won't work.

So you see a positive future at United then? Lol, have some faith.

01 Mar 2013 19:41:03
guys, do u think saf is going to use our best players or going to rest some of them four the real madrid game, we need to get a win agaist norwich, zee:)

I think we'll see a mix. Players like De Gea, Rafael, Evans, Evra, and possibly Carrick will play because they have enough in the tank to play two games a week. But I don't think we'll see RVP at all, and Rooney will be given a bit part. Vidic will start, Young and Nani on the wings, Anderson in the middle, and Hernandez up top. Cleverly might be rested too in case Jones isn't fit for Madrid.

Danny Pughnited

Thanks four the info danny:)

We'll rest players. I'd guess Carrick, RVP will not start. We have plenty of effective squad players though so hopefully they step up to the mark.

I think Carrick Rio RVP Rooney and Jones will all definately be rested (or not ready in one or two cases).

Then we could see Evans Rafael Evra Cleverley Giggs and Welbeck rested depending on who will be in the line up for tuesday.

I have a sneaky feeling that Giggs will be rested tomorrow and will make his 1000th apperance in the Madrid game with it being a game worthy of marking such an achievement.

I think the key to working out who plays tomorrow is working out who'll play on Tuesday. I think the team for Madrid will look like this:
DDG, Rafael, Rio, Evans, Evra, Carrick, Cleverley, Giggs, Welbeck, Rooney and RVP

I don't think Jones will make it. I think we'll play a midfield three of Carrick Cleverley and Giggs with Welbeck and Rooney working hard to cover the wings when defending.
Similar to the game in Madrid.

This means any of the players in that line up could well be rested for tomorrow.

I'd imagin we'll line up like this tomorrow: DDG, Rafael, Smalling. Vidic, Buttner, Young, Anderson, Powell, Nani, Kagawa, Hernandez

If Scholes is fit he'll start instead of Powell imo and maybe Evra will play instead of Buttner. But I think Sir Alex will want to make sure none of his key players end up injuried three days before the Madrid game, we have a 12 point buffer in the league but our european future for this season rests on tuesdays game. That is why I think Sir Alex will prioritise the Madrid game.

Cheers guys:)zee

01 Mar 2013 18:10:26
Great news about Giggsy. Clearly there was no football before the Premiership was formed. All day every report has said Giggs has scored in every Premiership season. conveniently ignoring he scored pre-Premiership as well. Very odd.

FFS, what's to disagree with? Did football actually start on 1992? Or is not good news about Gggsy. Either way, idjit

01 Mar 2013 21:31:24
AJH,

You're very grumpy lately

You're in the wrong place if you're bothered about the number of disagrees on your posts mate. Without knowing who is clicking on either one, you're better off ignoring them. Then if someone actually disagrees and have a valid counter argument, they'll post it.

TK-Red

Don't worry AJH some people are just 'disagree'able don't take to heart. For what it's worth I'm glad he's re -signed. I've been a bit of a critic of Giggs' recent work but he's proved me wrong this season. What a pro.

01 Mar 2013 14:44:29
Anyone Going to Old Trafford for the Manchester Madrid Game?

I AM :)

"RED POLTERGEIST"

I'm there mate :) taking my sister too for her 20th birthday

01 Mar 2013 14:13:47
Just wondering, who is this Marquinhos? Everyone is talking about us bidding for Lamela and Marquinhos, I am aware of Lamela but never heard of Marquinhos. Would be grateful if someone could enlighten me, maybe Shappy can step in here? I guarantee you know something about him!

He's a young Brazilian about 18 or 19 who plays generally CB (I think) and is considered promising.

Supasub

I don't actually watch much Italian football, I only tend to watch certain players if my Italian friend says they are worth a look.

Lucky enough my friend has told me about Marquinhos.

He's probably one of the most promising young defenders in the world. He has excellent reading of the game, far beyond his years. And he is a tidy passer. Obviously he has to smooth out a few rough edges but he will be one of the top centre backs in the world in a few years time.

My only issue would be do we need another young CB with Smalling Jones and Evans in the first team and M. Keane and Blackett coming through the youth level.

Cheers boys! Yeh, I think with Ferdinand, Vidic, Smalling, Jones & Evans we have plenty for the first team. Then with Keane, Thorpe and Blackett coming through we have the next generation right there.

01 Mar 2013 22:10:21
So him or Zouma then?

01 Mar 2013 14:00:36
Strange but true, Ryan Giggs has played more Premier League games than Manchester City.
KevDarko

Nice1 Kev

01 Mar 2013 11:55:15
I can't believe how many people post on here saying they would sell Wayne Rooney!

It is as clear as day that he is still our most important player. Whenever he has been missing from the team this season we have looked a shadow of the team we are with him in it. RVP struggles somewhat when Rooney isn't there.

His selfletvess is a breath of fresh air with many modern day players only in it for themselves. Yes he is on big money, but he is worth every penny as he always gives 100% for the team. His work rate is second to none. On top of that, he is one of the most complete players in world football. He can do everything. On top of his form, I wouldn't swap him for ANYONE and I mean that.

Wayne Rooney is a Manchester United legend, one of our greatest ever players. I cannot understand the lack of respect he is shown at times by some sections of the support.

GlasgowRedDevil

01 Mar 2013 12:26:05
Its because he threatened to go to City unless he got a huge pay raise, then shows up at every pre season over weight and unfit and it takes half a season to get him anywhere near back to shape usually just in time for summer. Then you see players like Robin or Ronaldo who are proper professional and always in shape.

Couldn't agree more mate! I have a joke about him but for me he is our most important player and will become United all time top goal scorer, I'd rather lose any other player rather than lose Rooney and that includes Van Persie. I think a lot of the time the people on here slating Rooney are rival fans or the fans that get too caught up in Football Manager

IHaveNoName!

How did he threaten to go to city? city were linked with a bid. rooney didn't say he wanted to go there.

Sell the person tomorrow if I can, he's useless, overweight, fitness nonexistent, touch is awful. He does run about a lot though, but that doesn't make him our most important player, not by a long way. He turned up a stone overweight, and even now he doesn't look fit and keeps getting injured.
Sell him.

Now if you takea good look at Rooney in a neutral way, and examine his good and bad points here is what you see.
Positives: good finisher, works hard, decent passer.
Negatives: slow, can't dribble, can't tackle, loses possession, massivly overweight.

And yet we still consider Rooney as our most important player. let's put it this way, if Rooney didn't work as hard as he did, we'd all consider him an average player. So his best asset is getting back to start attacks. And since his passing is average, and he is slow and can't dribble, there you have an english overhyped player, who could have been the best player in the world, but was too busy screwing prostitutes and stuffing his face with food to realise his potential, and is now living on past glories.

To say Rooney can't pass is ridiculous and maybe you should look at some of the highlights on games he played CM!

IHaveNoName!

Come on Mick, Massively Overweight? Ok, overweight perhaps but look at his build, he has to work hard to keep it down, unfortunately some people are like that, if he picks up an injury and can't do anything then he will put on weight, could he of come back in better condition after the summer? Perhaps but he went from a long season with us to International duty with England so he needs a break like everyone and probably indulged but he does get back to shape.

Positives - Decent Passer, Negatives - Loses possession? Mmmm? Leave that one with you.

Can't Tackle - He's a striker, Scholes can't tackle and is a CM, Cantona couldn't, RVP doesn't.

Can't dribble - Is that essential? How many ''Dribblers'' are there in the game now with the exception of Messi? Ronaldo and Bale run with the ball and are powerful, fast players.

Said he's a good finisher, probably most important aspect of football, he's scored 13 in the Premier League this season not playing in an out and out strikers position.

Give the lad a break, he gives everything when he's on the pitch for United, he sacrificies performances for results, Walcott threw his toys out the pram and wasn't signing a contract because Wenger wouldn't play him in his favourite position, imagine if he was in Rooney's situation.

Unfortunately some people don't know what they have until it's gone and I'm afraid that will be the case if Rooney leaves.

One read at some of the replies and the simple conclusion is. Some of you have not got a clue about football. Rooney can't pass? Really? Dear me.

Knowledge that wouldn't fill a postage stamp.

GlasgowRedDevil

Ports, many believe Rooney will move to central midfield, and his defensive capability is one of the reasons people think that. And yet Rooney can't tackle. Scholes can't either, but his calmness and immaculous passing allowed him to control possession. the same can't be said about Rooney.

For a professional fotballer, beeing over 20 pounds overweight is considered massive. In all the top clubs in the world, how many players are overweight? The answer is simple. None.

And as for his dribbling, all attacking players must have the ability to beat a defender ( unless of course you are 10 times the size of a normal human beeing like Giroud and Ibrahimovic ). It is not as essential for a striker, but we pride ourselves with Rooney not beeing a striker, more of an all arounder.
Lets try to see the best attacking midfielder/ wingers in the league : Mata, Hazard, Silva, Cazorla, Wilshere, Bale. They can all go past a player with either pace and power or close control and trickery. Rooney has neither.

Dont get me wrong, I think Rooney is a great player, but when you re on 220 thousand pounds a week, you have to deliver. You must be able to keep your weight in check and work on your weaknesses. He is on the same payroll as the likes of Messi, Cristiano and RVP. the least he can do is also give his all off the pitch.

I might be overly critical of Rooney, the only reason for that is that i'm so disappointed with how he turned out. He is one of the most phenomenal youngsters I've ever seen, and he has not improved the way he could have. Couple of years back we were talking about Rooney beeing second best only to Ronaldo and Messi, and now he is not ven one of the better performers of the Epl. major bummer imo.

Mick

That is the worst summary of a player I have ever read.
You obviously don't watch Rooney much do you.
When Ronaldo left and before RVP come all the pressure was on Rooney as our best player to perform and he hasn't dissapointed.
Have a look at the goals he has scored since Ronaldo left and RVP joined, 84 goals and god knows how many assists.
He has had a stop start season this year, if you really want to know how good Rooney is have a good luck at the Manchester City game this season where he ran the game.
Some fickle fans on here there really is.

Simmo

Glasgow, next thing you'll be telling me he has an immaculate first touch too.

Simmo, I know Rooney has done a lot for the club, and he is a great player, but he is not beyond criticism. The fact remains that in the last 3 seasons he has been Nani-esque. You never know if he is going to have a good game ( Man City ) or a bad one ( Everton, Madrid ). Last season he scored a lot of goals, but in open play he is not in the same league as Ozil and Iniesta, who are on lower wages.
His ability on the ball is disappearing along with his pace. He is not guetting any better, and for the wages he's on, he's just not worth it.
He works hard on the field, but that's just not enough on his level. He doesn't work nearly as hard as the likes of Chicharito and Valencia in the gym, and considering he is not improving I would say it's the same on the ground.

Now to finish off, you rate Rooney highly, I dont. That doesn't make me fickle, that just means I don't consider Rooney to be good enough for his wages. Glad I got it out of the way, and the next time you don't agree with someone, you don't have to insult/ disrespect them.

Stevie

With all honesty, even if he had the best first touch in the game today, would you still not hate him or paint him as villain? Sorry mate, I don't think so.

Deeps.

Deeps, his first touch is lamentable for someone that people rate on here as one of the best players in the world - pantomime villain or not.

Stevie

The argument that most of us make is that he has been and is one of our most important players. Best players in the world? that's debatable and no one says he is as good as Messi/Ronaldo/Iniesta.

He is very very important to us. And I really think after pretty boi Ronnie was off to live his Madrid dream, if it wasnt for young Wayne, where would we be now? And yet Ronaldo fan boys can't get enough of him. Am atleast getting behind someone who plays his heart out for Manchester United. Wud be the first to agree that he is no where near Messi/Ronny, but is equally important.

Deeps.

As Mick says, if he didn't run around a lot, in his current form, and taking into account a poor first touch, poor control, attempting Hollywood passes when he can't even find his man with the short ones, would he be considered a definite starter in the team just now?

Please tell me. what has Kagawa done this season, that would guarantee him a starting spot ahead of Rooney? Not a downer on him, he will come good eventually, but to question if Wayne is a definite starter in our current team is well.

Deeps.

I think this debate is always quite a polarized issue. We have 11 league games, FA cup and Champions League.

The way I look at it he has to deliver in the big games coming up starting with a performance against Madrid. I am not saying he has to score but he has to at least look on par with some of the talent on the pitch excluding cr7.

I know people keep mentioning stats but personally I don't give a damn about stats and more concerned about his overall play as our style of play generally creates a lot of goals and assists for a good player.

This year due to various reasons has been a no starter for him and he can really shine given the magnitude of the games that are coming up or he can go the other way which will reinforce peoples view of cashing on the player and using those funds to improve the team.

Shahram

Stevie

Running around a lot to get 13 goals and 11 assists in a stop start season. Played out of position, getting important goals/assists in big matches. For every "poor" Hollywood pass he plays, there are numerous attacks he has starts. Most of his assists have gone to RVP. Current form is definitely not upto his usual standards, but yes in the current United side, he is a definite starter.

Deeps.

Shahram

I have a question. You usually say that inspite of our league position, our general play leaves a lot to be desired. Yet you keep saying that "As our style of play would create goals/assists for any good player". It really can be either or. And if the later is true, then I would expect Welbeck, Hernandez et all to outscore Wayne. May be RVP after all isent a messiah. Its our "style of play" that creates his chances/goals.

IMO RVP and Rooney are a cut above the rest as far as our team is concerned. We should not sell our best players. The money is there to be used, we should not sell to buy.

Deeps.

Deeps

I guess I will answer it one at a time.

Our control of midfield leaves a lot to be desired and the way we sit back and defend in numbers. Although we are winning, my personal preference is to boss the middle of the pitch and defend higher up the pitch. The way we play leads to conceding goals some of the criticism of the goalie and individual players, which I don't think it is always fair.

Welbeck is a million miles away from Rooney class and hence will not get the games time. Welbeck for me does not have the quality to be a starter at United and will always be a bench player.

Hernandez does not get enough games and time on the pitch and will always be behind Rooney in terms of goals and assists as the Manager by his own admission will play an out of form out of shape Rooney match after match to get him sharp, where he will quickly drop guys who are off form.

On Our style of play just look back over the last 15 years pre rooney era and post Rooney era, we have had striker after striker, who were considered best in the league and have scored bucket loads and that is why I think a lewy will score 25 to 30 league goals if we get him.

Finally, I am not advocating selling Rooney but believe we need to spend 60 to 70 million on a group that includes 2 midfielders, a left back and left winger. If the money is there then great and should never sell Rooney but if we need funds then it is something that has to be considered.

Finally, if there was a possibility of funding CR7 return through a sale of Rooney, that is a no brainer.

Shahram

01 Mar 2013 10:33:51
Those of you who are bored and read my posts will remember that I have been saying for some time now that I feared that because of Fergie's ego he would not be able to walk away from the club. Some of the papers today are running a story about him wanting to become a director of the club. This is not a post to criticise Sir Alex and all that he has done for us but every single person must agree that we made that mistake with Sir Matt who's presance hung over the club and future managers. Can you imagine trying to manage United with Sir Alex hanging around and players still calling him boss as they would. Liverpool got it right when they told Shankley thanks but no thanks and told him to stay away. They went on to dominate and new managers were allowed to manage. I have been saying for the last 2 years that Davey Moyes is being set up for the job. He would be prepared to work under Fergie and can you imagine the Glazers rubbing their hands knowing he wouldn't demand large money for transfers. Sir Alex you have been a brilliant manager at this club second only to Sir Matt but when it is time to go please go for the good of the club. You have your statue. You and your family don't need to take any more money out of the club. Go and watch your horses and play some golf. Attend the occasional game but take a big step away for a couple of years and allow the new man some space and time

Don't you think it could be a gradual thing though Kloot? If he just left for good it could have a bad effect on the players, fans and it could go pear-shaped. If a new manager came in and he remained at the club in some capacity, gradually leaving the club it could be better.

Sydney!

Just because it didn't work in the past doesn't mean it won't work this time does it?

Managed to get your little dig at the Glazers in as well, haven't seen one for a week or so from you, it has been missed. Just surprised there was no dig at Rooney? Surely if Moyes comes in you will get your wish and Rooney will leave as they hate each other?

Moyes says it all, god I hope not

I have no problem with Moyes coming in for a couple of years until a bootroom of Ollie, Giggs, Scholes and possibly Neville, gains more experience.

I think he possesses the same traits and characteristics as Fergie, and should be allowed a chance.

Yes Fergie won a European tropy with Aberdeen, but he was still the manager of an essentially small-town, provincial club, with no experience of managing a major club, nevermind one with the status of Man Utd.

It could be argued that keeping Everton relevant in the Premiership on a shoestring, year in year out, is just as impressive.

A safe pair of hands to deal with the transition to someone like Ollie?

Better an honest, decent guy like Moyes, than that classless buffoon Jose, who is in danger of becoming a parody of himself.

01 Mar 2013 12:41:19
I actually agree with Kloot. what's tie point of having a septagenarian hanging around the place all day? If he wants to remain involved with the club which is commendable surely then we find him something to do away from the club, like a Sir Bobby role? And moyes is a horrible choice as manager. MrE

Kloot is absolutely right. SAF's character is far too domineering to allow a new manager take control of the running of the team. The Fergie years are coming to an end, and we need a manager who will step in and say this is my United team and this is how we will play. There's no way this can happen if one of the most important figuers in the club's history is hovering over their shoulder with their own ideas of where the club should be heading. It would split authority, loyalties and undermine any new manager.

Let's face it, how many top class managers would be willing to manage the club while the man who has managed it for nearly three decades is still involved in the day to day running? Any manager who would work under SAF as director isn't strong enough in their own abilities to take charge of a club lie United. When SAF retires, we need a complete break, a new era for the club, and that won't happen while SAF still exerts influence over the way the club is run.

Danny Pughnited

"The way the club is run" is now more or less set in stone. Whichever manager comes in and whomever is a director the club will continue to be run in the same way. People are assuming that SAF will be involved in the day to day running of the club but, personally, I don't see much issue with that so long as he doesn't have day to day running of the team. SAF is more than welcome to be a director and be at OT as much as he likes IMO so long as he isn't granted access to the training ground.

TK-Red

Moyes? No way. He's good at Everton but not united standard. No chance. Need a big name who has managed top teams and won European cups, only mourinho and pep, and we lost out on pep, so that leaves the special one.

'a big name'? Like Fergie, when he came down from just south of the Arctic Circle?

It all depends on how much influence the manager has. I don't mind if he is involved in the transfers as long as the manager gets his say too. He must leave the team picking, tactics to the manager. If United lose 3. 0 to someone I would hate for him to burst into the dressing room barking out orders. If the manager has all the say and only transfers are debatable with SAF then it could be a good thing.

It's weird how Pep said a year or so ago that he would have no problems working under SAF, is this what he meant? One thing for sure is this completely rules out Mourinho becoming the next manager. It has to be someone like Laurent Blanc now doesn't it?

Sydney!

If you remember correctly, fergie had already broken Celtic and rangers domination and won the league in Scotland. In addition, he won the cup winners cup in pittodrie.
What has Moyes done?

After working under abramovich, morrati and Perez I would of thought having fergy as a director would be no big deal to mourhinio, they seem to have a good relationship
Also I'm not sure how much of an active roll fergy would have as a director it sounds a bit like a pension fund for time served to me

Sir Alex is second to no one, without doubt the greatest manager Britain will ever produce. unlike Sir Matt he won't be leaving an ageing team and a club that requires an overall both on and off the field for whoever takes over.
With him possibly going upstairs then give any of Giggs Scholes Gary Neville a chance and with what's already in place continue to challenge on all fronts!
(Or have they taken enough money out the club)!

'Fergie's ego'. ironic really.

01 Mar 2013 09:56:42
Ryan Giggs has signed a one-year legend. What a legend the man is, and he's signed it before what could be the day before his 1,000th match of his career.

01 Mar 2013 08:57:07
Should Vidic be sold?

Last couple of seasons we have not seen the Vidic of the past, yes this has probably been down to injury but as he gets older I think he is finding it harder to shake off the injuries he has had and regain full fitness. He has made 25 apps in 2 years and at 31 time is surely running out for him. Should we cash in on a player that has peaked and will be on the decline or should we keep him for the stability and experience he brings?

I know when fergie sold Stam he said it was one of the biggest mistakes he has made but at that time I think we did not have the quality in youngsters we have now and it wouldn’t be the big loss we suffered then. (Reason I say this is because I think until we brought Vidic we didn't fill the void that Stam left. I’d take another Stam over another Vidic any day) I think if we got 15 million for Vidic it would be a good piece of business and as long as that money is invested back into the squad in the defensive department I would not lose too much sleep about it. (Baines? Young Potential CB?)

We currently have 3 very good players in Jones, Smalling and Evans pushing to start in his place and I think maybe their development is suffering from the lack of game time in their preferred position. Most of us see Jones as an important player for United over the next 10 years and I think he should be getting his chances now, Maybe he has suffered a little due to him being so good at DM.

Next season I’d love to see Smalling and Jones at the heart of United’s defence as I see these 2 as our main CB`s for years to come. Maybe that would be a little unfair on Evans but at the end of the day he’s Irish and that pairing will benefit England as well as United (LOL)

I also do not see Ferdinand at United next season so along with Vidic we could be freeing up some decent money off the wage bill for new signings. Dare I say the R word?

Vidic may well be sold this summer if a good enough offer comes in from Anzhi or Zenit.

Sydney!

01 Mar 2013 10:14:27
Of course he should, along with, Rio, Evra, Carrick (england reject), Cleverley, Young, Nani, Welbeck, Buttner, the well dodgy keeper fluff the Gea and the chunky munkies Rooney and Anderson. No requirement to sell Scholes and Giggs there done.

Bazil Brush

Personally I would sell Vidic if we got a decent price but I couldn't see us getting more than 8-10 million for him. I would like Hummels but can't see it so the next one would be Zouma. don't get me wrong I love Vidic & he is a warrior but I think the injuries have taken a toll on him & sentiment cannot come into it
Blackpool Red

It would be a disaster if we lost both Vidic and Rio's experience in one summer IMO. If Rio goes we can't afford to let Vidic go. Personally I'd keep them both with a view to next season being Rio's last. When Vidic has played he's looked a rock and has improved our defence since his injury. I think with good management he could be back to full fitness by next season. I'm a big fan of Evans, Jones and Smalling too - I'd say Vidic & Evans deserve a chance to be first chice from the start of next season.

Selling Vidic would be a huge mistake, Rio is likely to be off this summer and Evra is on his last legs. If we lose Vidic then our most experianced defender will be Evans at 25. We can't afford to lose such experiance in such a key area.

So what if evens is Irish he has being our second best defender this season only behind rafa who is amazin at the mo but to say evens is Irish keep the English lads in would work for club an country is personic no guarantee it would work an leave the best centre half we have on the bench to look after the national team your a joke plus evens is northern Irish more one of you's than one of us if he was Irish he would play for the republic for the games an exposer he would receive. Your post could be perceived as racist please take note for future reference

CAIN

I think if people got there way we would buy a new team every season, the only players that haven't been put up for sale on this site are raf and rvp

Spot on Jred

Every season would start with a completely different team. Wait for RVP to slip up, and the knives sharpen and posters coming here with "I knew he would get injured somewhere down the line, what was SAF thinking when we bought him, sell him till we can get something for him".

After all our "4th HIGHEST GOAL SCORER" gets slaughtered after one poor game. And they say "all he does is run around" and "work rate" ain't nuff. Just running around in circles and getting close to 200 goals for the club yeah. Sell him!

Cain I started to read your post but the lack of punctuation and poor spelling has made it very hard to understand so maybe remember that for the future so we can understand your point. If you believe I am being racist from my post then "your a joke"

It is simply a post I put up for people to debate but as a Englishman I would prefer to see Jones and Smalling in the team over Evans if it did actually benefit England. Not racist just a deflated England fan looking for some hope for the future!
I'd be happy to keep Vidic in our squad but he is not the same reliable defender playing week in/out anymore and if the money could be used to invest in the team for the better then why not sell him? If a Russian club offered 20mil for Vidic and we could go get Hummels for £25mil you would not be interested? Figures just random but that wasn't my point anyways.
And Jred did I say buy a new team? I'm talking about using the talented youth we have in our ranks to benefit the team for the future?


IHaveNoName!

So you know I'm right an are pickin hairs over spelling your not only a joke your just plain foolish regardless of the benifit of England you would put two English internationals in the back four when better players are on the bench. I hope you can understand my spelling when I tell you your foolish. Jones an Smalling are good players but I feel jones is better Smalling has being laggin lately. Maybe you should take over from fergie you seem to know your stuff. An not understanding spelling you seemed to answer my post rather fast an to the points. Thank god you have no name but I have a few for ya.

CAIN

No name
he has had one serious injury before which he was probably our best best player
In his position he was one of the best 3 players in the world imo
Luckily we have some good cbs so we have been able to give vidic the best possible chance to fully recover with out the need to rush him back.
In his last few games I think he has looked very good
Next season I would fully expect to see him back to full fitness and probably back to being our best cb

CAIN mate, chill a bit. I see why you are unhappy but I didn't read it that way. Poor choice of words perhaps but that's all

Totally agree with jred. If some poster's on this site had their way we'd be selling 6 players and buying another 6 at this rate. This is not Footy Manager. We have a good squad that needs 2 or 3 improvements.

01 Mar 2013 08:13:20
out of many seasons monitoring all the rumours going round about clubs, it does seem as though united are being heavily linked with young players much more than usual (rodriguez, wanyama, verratti, lamela, strootman?)
so do you all think sir alex is thinking ahead for when he retires, because I do fear for manchester united when Saf retires because the mentality may change.