Manchester United Banter Archive August 20 2012

20 Aug 2012 22:56:41
no great drama we lost to a superb everton performance BUT i will not put up with nani any longer, he was shocking and by him playing we lose toni to right back. cash in now saf, nani ando berba mechada bebe and bring in a world class centre hlf and a centre mid who bosses matches

20 Aug 2012 22:51:25
I am getting seriously fed up with everyone supporting Nani ! How can you defend a so called "winger" who can not cross a ball for toffee ! I would snatch £20-25million for him and just use Valencia on the right and Young or Kagawa on the left and sign Isco or Moses as the cover winger. Nani = Terrible !

20 Aug 2012 22:39:01
Taxi for nani? The only players who earned there wages tonight was de gea and kagawa! I understand everton away is a tough game but some of our errors were stupid, after tonight's performance I'm with the nani haters! He was ****!

Yeah he was poor tonight but I wouldnt be surprised if it was partly down to being distracted by the uncertainty of his United career.

TK-Red

20 Aug 2012 22:33:22
We seemed to have lost our famous will to win particularly from losing positions. Bullied physically, slow build up, just very sluggish. I appreciate this is the first game of the season but there were signs of this last year e.g against Newcastle away. Didn't really want to be starting off the season on a loss, particularly when Sir Alex has been talking about desire to win the title back etc. However hopefully the season will start off with a convincing result against Fulham next Saturday and we can go through the remainder of the season unbeaten! P.s Kagawa is absolute tekkers!

20 Aug 2012 22:32:00
Hi Guys,
Well that's the first game out of the way...and I'm speechless......I'm I the only person that thinks we pass the ball from midfield sideways and with no forward pace what so ever. Cleverley and Scholes were non existence.
'What the hell have I done'....RVP must have thought! He's use to a team moving at pace from left to right across the whole midfield......no chance of that at Man United. Once again our center of midfield was caught wanting.....we still have no steel there to stop teams getting to our defense. If we keep this system up with our slow style of attack, we won't get anywhere this season. We are that slow, that by the time we get to the point to make a killer pass to strikers, they have formed a full defensive wall across there defensive line...
At no time did I think we were going to win this match and Everton deserved it completely. Obviously I'm not lost for words......but feel it. Can't believe I'm saying this.....but where does the buck stop with this style of out of date attacking? Barca, Real, Arsenal, Man City, Benfica etc all attack with fast paced passing throughout their midfield. We can't and won't be able to compete with teams if this system of ours is the norm.....
Sorry guys, but if Fergie thinks that we lost by goal difference and buying more attackers will win us the league.....then he needs to seriously look in the mirror at himself and ask some important questions.......We need to adapt to the new way of playing football being used by the above mentioned teams or we will die.....it's as easy as that.....adapt or die!
Sorry for being so negative and I know it's only the first game.....but I honestly don't see any improvement from last season.....anyone see this like this or I'm alone with these views?

20 Aug 2012 22:31:46
if tonights defeat proved anything it is that United do not have a midfielder capable of mixing it with the opposition! this weakness has been apparent for some time we desperately need a good old fashioned spoiler who can just break up the play and set our creative players free, if we added that to the team I think the rest would look after itself, Cheetham Red

20 Aug 2012 22:27:58
There we have it then. We have bought some cracking players for when we're on the front foot but we can't get on the front foot because we're loosing the midfield battle

Bigbob

20 Aug 2012 22:22:49
What was Fergie thinking Wellbeck left wing Young on the bench ??
RVP gets 23 minutes wtf !!
2 years til he retires 2 years too long he is finished.

Devil Dust.

20 Aug 2012 22:17:19
Our midfield is a total joke! Surley Fergie after seeing our midfield bullied by Fellaini, should see we need a strong, tall, ball winning midfielder! Witsel 4 me. Everton just parked the bus near the end, which made it difficult for us to get shots away. Thanks to DDG otherwise we would have been embarrassed. About time our coaching staff and rest of United group woke up! If we don't get a midfielder like Fellaini or Toure etc we will find it hard to win the ball and keep hold of it. Hopefully, we get one in before Saturday game against Fulham!

20 Aug 2012 22:13:48
I'd say one word sums up our performance tonight. That word is Arsenal. We knocked the ball about pretty well but lacked the cutting edge to break down a very well drilled Everton defence. Well played to Everton though they played to their strengths which is obviously hit Fellaini and target our makeshift defence and it worked a treat for them. I am not too worried though because even though we lacked the cutting edge tonight there were signs that it will come.

Rjmanutd

Rj

Did it not totally remind you of watching Scotland? Sideways passing, no direction, countless misplaced passes, players standing on the ball as NOBODY was making a move or already in space and undone by the same tactic again and again.

Seems all so familiar now.

Jono

20 Aug 2012 22:12:17
Too SLOW going foward. Pesimistic showing really. Boys looked sluggish and at times hesitant . Good signs though from Kagawa thought he looked good throughout. Expect plenty of improvement for the next match and RVP to start with Rooney.

20 Aug 2012 22:11:19
So not much changed from last season then! Over run in midfield, shaky at the back, lost every header, no creativity and still can't get a corner past the 1st man! So so infuriating. On a plus side Kagawa looked quality and De Gea had a good game. I know it's early days but unless we sort out CM then we're going to struggle against decent teams. Just disappointed that's all.

Boyley

20 Aug 2012 22:06:43
disappointed with united tonight. They couldnt deal with fellaini. Evra offered nothing going forward and every cross was blocked. Nani's end product was awful. Young was so predictable, cutting onto his right foot and delivering a poor cross every time. Im still puzzled at why carrick was marking Fellaini and not vidic for corners. Van persie got zero service and for every cross or corner an everton player ALWAYS got the ball and man utd never challenged them or put any pressure on them in those situations.

Positives:
-De Gea with some top saves.
-Kagawa
-City still have to play them (although they have some physical players themselves in Yaya, kompany,Lescott)

Doni

20 Aug 2012 22:04:02
Nani out he isn't good enough and if anyone can defend him I don't know how!

Caolán.

20 Aug 2012 22:03:36
players that impressed was kagawa and de gea.

everyone else was rubbish.if anyone offers to take nani i will personally drive him there.how can a footballer take a corner as bad as he does?

We need a big response next game and i mean a big 1

corby86(banter ed please)

20 Aug 2012 22:00:25
Nani's corners were literally to feel sorry abt. None of em reached even the centre of the box. They were jst being cleared by the 1st defender. Even Rooney opted to take it later after it happened consistently, lol..

IBleedBlue

20 Aug 2012 22:03:14
The only positives from that were de gea looking confident and kagawa looking as good as I'd hoped.

Other than that I thought we were outplayed and outsmarted, they knew exactly how to hit us where it hurt and executed it with ease.

Nani and Toni were disappointing for there own reasons but I suppose we can only get better now.

UnitedRunited

20 Aug 2012 21:59:58
would have taken the draw tonight...

encouraging signs going forward but wide open at the back. we wont play fellaini every week, im happy with kagawa, him and rooney will be great

brendan

Encouraging signs going forward?

Was I watching a different game?

Kagawa was the only player who looked interested

Hallis

20 Aug 2012 21:58:12
Nani , how many times does he waste good possession, frustrating beyond words, I cannot see how even Nani fans cannot see this. He must be sold as he takes focus away from too many attacks. If you couldn't see that tonight frankly I would suggest an eye test. Nani got 77 mins too long, shocking performance.

RVP sat on the bench for how long 67 minutes whilst Welbeck our non scoring forward stays on. The anonymous Rooney not much better. Scholes sadly cannot tackle and is getting later and later in tackles. He makes our tempo just too slow. We knew Felliani would be difficult but we lost because we didn't score.

On the positive side Kagawa knows how to find space in between players , finding space with classic pass and move but we need to be braver and give it him more often , then work around him. He never gives the ball away. I was impressed but we need two more like him.

We continue to struggle to score but get someone on the pitch who doesn't do a Nani and shamefully waste possession , a midfield player who will dominate and one of our fit central defenders who will defend a corner and we should be ok. However you can see why we looked at Hazard and Moura to sprinkle a little magic probably in place of Nani. Hopefully this will bring some back to reality who think it will be a walk in the park this season.

Red Man

Agree with every word.

G.A.G.U.S

I was one of the few mate who had Utd lower than 1st going on current squads and stated without a CM and LB we would not win this league.

Both positions were targeted again tonight by a far more tactical astute Moyes. Using his players to the best tactics we were soundly beaten. Who could have imagined 65-35% possession by half time and yet only have half the shots of the opposition?

Nani? I can only imagine Percy willpoint to others poor performances as a fall back as he was GASH!

Says it all when Gibbo can take a better corner than you!!

Jono

20 Aug 2012 21:52:49
Not a great performance at all. This is very worrying! The link up play in midfield was non existant. Kagawa looks no better than Park, Nani had a shocker as usual and Carrick is an absolute luxury, Fellaini is 10 times the player he is and to top it off we have spent every penny we have filling a position that was not the priority and who's feet does the blame fall onto for all this? The man in charge of course! Major dissappointment with the first game of the season

Flimbo

Flimbo

'Kagawa no better than Park'?

I loved Park, but let's face it, the main reason he was so industrious was because his poor first touch meant he had to run more to get the ball back!

In contrast, Kagawa never wasted a pass, knew how to hold on to the ball when needed, played with his head up, and always made himself available.

Far and away our best outfield player tonight....which wasn't difficult to be fair.


StevieK

Kagawa was our best outfield player not sure what game you watched?

GDS

Sorry don't agree at all on kagawa. he has nothing in common with park and was absolutely class. He will be our best signing of the season on tonights performance.

Rooney need to get 10 pounds off as he was like a lame horse out there. Nani was his usual rubbish and infuriating why we let him take corners when he can't even clear the first man. Evra needs a replacement.

Positives: Degea, Cleverly,Vidic,Kagawa
negatives: everyone else

Where was hernandez as i would have him ahead of welback anyway.

Agree apart from the Kagawa comment. You must be the only person who failed to see Kagawa looked quality.

Boyley

What you've just wrote is load of horse sh!te.

G.A.G.U.S

20 Aug 2012 21:54:33
Carrick isn't a central defender and Valencia isn't a right back. Couldn't have a had a worse opposition than Everton away. The schedule maker wasn't kind to us. We had chances to score but didn't take our chances.

CRMike

20 Aug 2012 21:48:29
Its same old same old ! Everytime we play Everton we play so bad... why play 3 people below 6 foot against one of the best headers of a ball in the world! Tactics were all wrong ! We have been terrible.

20 Aug 2012 20:50:13
Sydney!

How can you doubt Fellaini ? He bosses games ! I would love to see him in our team as our general in centre midfield.

20 Aug 2012 19:47:34
dear eds, why did the banter get took off from early on, it was good banter with nothing bad in it, has someone put something really bad in , because all the posts from everyone was taken off, there was certainly nothing wrong with my posts, cheers.............lfc {Ed007's Note - I have no idea lcf, it wasn't me that removed it.}

20 Aug 2012 21:35:40
Is Nani a f**king footballer or what? He has been absolute horse s**t tonight. On tonights performance i'd snatch the hand off of anyone who'd offer 10m for him.

Shappy

Nani's crossing was so bad it resulted in Rooney and van persie taking the corners when they should have been in the box.

Red pea

Couldn't agree more he is ridicously bad at times I can remember when he beat the first man with a corner

Caolán.

20 Aug 2012 21:31:56
Please can someone tell me why Carrick had the responsibility of marking Fellaini for that cross. His aerial skills are in no way up to the challenge?

Nik Legend SA

20 Aug 2012 21:15:54
Evra is officially w*nk

Brendan

Hmm, suprised you have picked out evra for criticism, id say nani and rooney have been the worst players tonight. Valencia wasnt great either but ill let him off since he is out of position

Let me add to my original post.....

Evra is w*nk and i'm praying this dutch lad is a decent player.

Nani is far far far to inconsistent, class on his day but 1 game in 6 is not enough, not just because he was rubbish tonight.

Scholes just looks like he'll be sent off all the time as he is slower than ever in the tackle.

On the plus side, Kagawa and De Gea are World class and i think Van Persie will fit perfectly.

Brendan

20 Aug 2012 20:59:48
Interesting first half, defensively Fellaini is causing all sorts of problems. But that was to be expected. He defends from the front making it so hard for us to build attacks. I think the Ref has been inconsistant, everytime we play physical its a foul yet when its Everton its not. We got two soft bookings as well. Nani has been his infuriating best, repeatedly running down blind alleys and some shocking decision making and the usual poor corners. De Gea has been magnificent and Kagawa has tried to link things well. I'd be tempted to drag Nani off and bring on Young or if he's fit enough RVP. This game shows why we need a battling player in the middle of the park to take the game by the scruff of the neck and fight fire with fire. Oh how I wish we had Keane in his prime in this team. Ah well.

Lets see what the second half brings.

Shappy

And some maintain he isn t good enough to get into our midfield.not the first time hes pissed all over us

A boss header 1 nil

20 Aug 2012 20:55:00
The first half performance just goes to prove that de gea is one of the best if not the best keeper in the world...
prateek

Pity about the second half
Belfast Gooner

20 Aug 2012 20:49:34
de gea is my motm for us so far looks twice the player he was last season !

dio

No way! Fellaini is running the show for Everton and if he keeps it up will easily walk mom

Jono

20 Aug 2012 20:43:40
I'm happy with th signings we made till now but, I hope SAF realize that we need a physically strong CM. Fellaini is strashing UTD alone. Schooles is a legend but we can't rely on him. He can't handle this kind of games/players.

Nick86

20 Aug 2012 20:33:07
Fellaini is a fu**ing nightmare.

MPez

He wont be able to put a performance in like that for the rest of the season. Here we go again, another season of cup finals.
MANC RED99

He is the phantom barnet from hell. Cheer up, one game in, please don't start the witch hunt yet, we will be challenging.
Thought Anderson did well when coming on and I don't think gave the ball away once.

Supasub

20 Aug 2012 20:14:22
A well formed 4-3-3as iwas saying.saf is trying barca model and now we have equal players also. Good to se this pace
Rodio17

Are you for real? Equal players as Barca ha ha.. That cheered me up...

Equal players! Are you having a laugh. Not a clear cut chance created all night and our wingers are terrible including young. We can't cross the ball anymore. That was a very worrying performance from a going forward point of view.

Ste

Not quite Barca midfield. Scholes and Cleverly?

We might play 4-3-3 but tactically its nothing like barce, i would say we got the ball wide and crossed it more in this game than barce will all season
jred

20 Aug 2012 19:39:24
Tonight, i think we'll line up as follows:

____________De Gea____________
Valencia__Carrick___Vidic_____Evra
_______Cleverley__Scholes_______
__Nani______Kagawa______Welbeck
____________Rooney____________

I think all of that front four can interchange throughout the game and I expect Van Persie to come on some time during the second half.

Hopefully the back four will be good enough for tonight aswell.

JKM

20 Aug 2012 19:31:10
So we are going for a line up of De Gea, Valencia, Carrick, Vidic, Evra, Nani, Scholes, Cleverley, Kagawa, Welbeck and Rooney.

I am dissapointed to see Kagawa wide left but with the injury concerns im not shocked although id prefer him behind rooney then Welbeck benched and young wide left.

No surprises there in all honesty, I think we will struggle tonight we have two players below 6 foot trying to handle Jelavic and Felliani in the centre of the park.

20 Aug 2012 19:16:16
___________DDG
Tony__Carrick___Vidic(c)__Evra
__Clevers__Scholes__Kagawa
__L.Nani___Rooney___Danny

These are the confirmed players. I believe we will line-up like this.

Sydney!

20 Aug 2012 18:33:03
1. Cantona, Keane, Ronaldo
2. Rodney's volley vs Newcastle, my first game at OT
3. Giggs
4. Yaya Toure, Juan Mata, Jack Wilshere
5. Mourinho

SqueakyBum

20 Aug 2012 17:41:47
Kaka spotted in Manchester. Can't quite believe it:

t.co/wvZ45nph

G.A.G.U.S

Brilliant Gagus.

DB-Red

20 Aug 2012 17:16:09
so it seems from the few posts about this Buttner that he is more attacking than defending, I think he may be our choice as a new winger, but just use him as cover for Evra this season, as Fabio will eventually be Evra's successor. With the choice of 4 wingers, Buttner, Young, Nani, and Valencia we could be a very attacking force. Also SAF believes in attacking full backs, just look at the way he always plays Valencia there. I still don't think this is the end of spending this summer, one more CM will be brought in to bulk up in case of injuries, maybe Kaka, I don't believe the rumours, but would welcome the move with open arms, but I don't understand why are people saying they hope he doesn't come? he doesn't play for Real because they have the likes of Ozil and Alonso, he would be amazing as a backup player!

Jake F

Jake F

Jake F Jake F, You haven't been suckered into this Kaka nonsense have you? I also disagree 100%, Buttner is a LB, not a LW. It's very debatable whether or not Fabio will have a future at our club. He is on trial at QPR and the club are hoping he can improve. It's last chance saloon for him.

Sydney!

20 Aug 2012 16:14:20
A little fun quiz to keep us going until tonight.

1. If you could have three former reds back in the squad who would you have?

2. What is you're favourite reds moment?

3. Who is the greatest player to wear the shirt?

4. If you could take one City, one Arsenal and one Chelsea player who would you pick?

5. Who do you think should replace Fergie?

1redarmy

1. Roy Keane
CR7
Ruud Van Nilsterooy
2. Nou Camp 1999
3.CR7
4. Yaya Toure, Sagna, Hazard
5. Pep Guardiola

The great Dane , cantona , ronaldo and the 1999 champions league finale ,, yaya , cole , an cnt think of a arsenal player I would wnt an to take ova fergie I think Jose mouhrinho

Dio

1, Ronaldo piqué and keane
2, Moscow
3 scholes
4 agüero, hazard, vermalen
5 Martin oniell!

Caolán.

1. If they were back in their prime then Bobby Charlton, Stam and Ronaldo Just for the fact we need a centre mid, Stam was class and Ronaldo well simple he is insane.

2. Hmmm its a tough one but beating Bayern in the champions league final to win the treble two last gasp goals.

3. I can't really judge as I have only seen clips of players like Best so I have to go for Ronaldo.

4. Kompany, Cazorla and Hazard.

5. It depends on certain things but I would have to say Laurent Blanc or Jose Mourinho.

George

1--ronaldo
---keane
---best(he'd still be great)

2--treble win or Michael Owens winner v city

3--Giggs

4--toure, wilshere, cole

5--ole Gunnar solkaer I know it's sounds weird but I have a feeling

Jay-c

1.Cantona, Robson, Ronaldo
2.CL 1999
3.Ronaldo
4.Silva, Obi Mikel, no one from arsenal
5.Moyes

1. Beckham, cantona and schmeichal
2. Winning the treble!
3. Scholes
4. Yaya toure, Alex oxlade chamberlain, Peter cech!
5. Instead of someone like pep etc I would like to see David moyes!

Q

1, Pique - Pogba - Forlan

2, 99 champs league final or Rooneys overhead kick against city (for the explosion at OT).

3, In my life time (born 87) Robbie Savage.... jokes either Cantona or Ronaldo.

4, Hart - Ox - Mata.

5, Its gotta be the special one Jose Mourinho.

Cban

1. Keane, Cantona, Ronaldo.
2. Van Der Sar saving Anelka's penalty!
3. George Best
4. City- Yaya Toure Arsenal- Wilshere Chelsea- Mata
5. I think Laurent Blanc will replace him, but in my dream world I would love to see Pep or Jose take over Fergie!

We should do these much more often!

-JakeW

Based on who I've seen; do leaving out sir bobby, George etc

To improve the current squad
Irwin, keane, robson.
Teddy equaliser in 99
Bryan robson
Kompany, oxlade chamberlain A FIT Essien
Mourinho

3 Former Reds: Ronaldo,Pique,Keano

Fav moment(s):
-Micheal Owens winner (4-3 derby)
-Coles Winner, Juve vs Utd, 1999
-Rooneys overhead kick

Greatest: Roy Keane

Rival players: Yaya, RVP:0, Hazard

Fergies Replacement: Ole Gunnar

JoeyG

Cristiano Ronaldo
Bobby Charlton
Jaap Stam

Wayne Rooney vs City

Duncan Edwards

Yaya Toure, Santi Cazorla, Eden Hazard

Laurent Blanc

MPez

1. Schmeichel, Edwards, Ronaldo.
2. '99 CL Final
3. Bobby Charlton
4. Kompany, Wilshere, A. Cole
5. Mourinho

DB-Red

Dennis Irwin, Roy Keane and Ronaldo

BornInToIt

Cantona, Robson and Best

Ole V Bayern CL Final

Giggs

YaYa Toure, van Persie ;) Essien

Mourinho

Ianskip

1. Best, Edwards & Cantona
2. Treble
3. Sir Bobby Charlton
4. Yaya, Wilshere, Oscar
5. OGS

Sydney!

I misread the 1st question, tactically I would have Irwin, Keane & Ronaldo.

Sydney!

1. Keane, Ronaldo and Cantona
2. 1999 CL Final
3. Georgie Best
4. Silva, Vermaelan, Hazard
5. Jose Mourinho

G.A.G.U.S

I can't resist...

1. Denis Law, Roy Keane, Peter Schmeichel
2. 1999
3. Charlton
4. Only Silva, cos SAF would like him in the squad
5. Pep is nailed on in my view.

OLE4EVRA

Great questions mate! My answers for the first two are all pretty 90s...i'm only a young fella!;)
1. I'd take Roy Keane, Jaap Stam and Andy Cole...they're the three players that made me want to play football since I was 6!
2. 26th May...all fans should know the year ;)
3. There's so many to pick from...it's a toss up between Peter Schmeichel, Denis Law, Bobby Charlton and of course, Giggsy.
4.Kompany from City. RVP from Arsenal...oh wait! lol! And Oscar from Chelsea.
5. I'd love to see Mourinho, really would. Fergie has done the best job in managerial history for us, but i think Mourinho can take us back to the real glory years we had when Fergie was at his peak.

Wow I enjoyed thinking about all that! Great mood for the game now...come on united!

Andy!

Ronaldo, Cantona, Stam
And Solksjaer has won it!!!
Ronaldo, he won us everything and netted us £80m.
Ya Ya Toure, Hazard and none from arsenal.

Guardiola, Mourinho only ones big enough to fill the void.

Sambo

1. Still playing now - Pique, Rossi and Ronaldo

2. Obviously 99 champs league

3. "The King" Eric Cantona

4. City-Kompany , Arsenal-would of been RVP but now Wilshere, Chelsea-Hazard

5. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer

Winston

1. If you could have three former reds back in the squad who would you have?

Cantona, Ronaldo and George Best

2. What is you're favourite reds moment?

Champions league '99

3. Who is the greatest player to wear the shirt?

Georgie Best

4. If you could take one City, one Arsenal and one Chelsea player who would you pick?

Silva, Vermaelen and Hazard

5. Who do you think should replace Fergie?

The Special One

Flimbo

1. Ronaldo, Best, Charlton
2. Stuffing Arsenal 8-2 (My best mate is an arsenal fan)
3. Ronaldo
4. Yaya Toure, Wilshire, Hazard
5. The Special one ;)

1. Cristiano Ronaldo, Bryan Robson, Jaap Stam

2. Has to be 99' with a close second Moscow 2008 and 3rd 19th title

3. In my generation for me it has to be Ryan Giggs

4.City I'd take Kompany(would take toure but africa cup of nations). Arsenal I'd take Wilshire.Chelsea I'd take Juan Mata.

5.Id like Pep Guardiola but if not him I'd like an ex player like Scholes or giggs or even solskaer

ShaunMUFC

1. If you could have three former reds back in the squad who would you have?

Keane

Cantona

Irwin- strange choice but we need a leftback and he's a true professional, particularly by todays standards.

(of all of them I'd take a young scholes)

2. What is you're favourite reds moment?

Roy Keane goal against Juventus 1999

3. Who is the greatest player to wear the shirt?

Ronaldo was so much better than anyone else he was playing against, he appeared the best.

4. If you could take one City, one Arsenal and one Chelsea player who would you pick?
City - Kompany
Arsenal - Wiltshire
Chelsea - Ramieres

5. Who do you think should replace Fergie?

Blanc, but I think Mourinho will.

Jack

1) Captain Marvel (Robbo), VDS, Charlton, Best, Djemba-Djemba (just to make it fair on the rest ;)

2) JT missing his penalty in UCL final, the agony of knowing we'd lost to the blues only to snatch it from them, amazing.

3) too many to say, how do you compare Charlton, Best, Robbo, Keane, Giggs, Scholes, Edwards.... Why bother, they were all great! (and many more)

4) YaYa or Kompany, Wilshire, Cashley

5) Laurent Blanc

Great post, difficult to deal with on a mobile!

DodgyBanter

1. Keane, Ruud, Ronaldo
2. Moscow 08
3. Scholes
4. Yaya, Wilshere, Hazard
5. No idea, maybe Blanc or OGS

Ruudinthemood

1. Keane,ronaldo,cantona
2. Solskjaer 99 European cup
3. Roy keane
4. Silva, chamberlain, lampard
5. Guardiola

1. Big Pete, George Best & Keane.

2. the 1992/3 Season.

3. Edwards

4. Kompany, Cazorla & Cole

5. Carlo Ancelotti/Mourinho

The Moon.

Duncan Edwards
Bobby Charlton
Eric cantona

Champions league 99 final

Yaya Toure Vermalean no one from chelsea

Jose Mourinho


PRATEEK

1. Ronaldo, Best, Bruce
2. the entire 1999 season
3. Giggs
4. Kompany, Vermalean, Oscar
5. The special one, Mourinho!
James!

1. Ronaldo, Charlton, Best

2. Standing behind the goal and watching THE moment the ball hit the net from OGS in the Nou Camp

3. Ronaldo

4. Aguero, Wilshire, Hazard

5. Mourinho

Red Man

Obi Mikel & Sagna?

Bewildering to say the least.

Sydney!

Ronaldo Keane Van Nistelrooy

Moscow 08 (too young to remember 99)

Giggs

Hazard Toure A Cole

Guadiola

Welsh Dragon

1. Best Ronaldo Cantona

2. Barcelona 99 - from the Planes Trains and Automobiles trip out, to walking down Las Ramblas with John Virgo, to falling out with various suited Euro-types in the stadium after they told me to sit down when Sheringham scored , to drinking with a motley collection of Utd legends in various watering holes around the city - absolutely epic night!

3. George Best - sums up Utd. Sexy and unpredictable :)

4. Kompany Wilshere Lampard

5. OGS with backroom of Neville/Giggs/Scholes. Anybody but that crass, arrogant, pompous buffoon Mourinho - we're a lot classier than that.


StevieK

20 Aug 2012 15:50:43
What are everyones thoughts on our best starting XI?

Here is mine

De Gea, Rafael, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra.
Valencia (RW), Scholes, Kagawa, Nani (LW),
Rooney & RVP.

I have put in Scholes ahead of Carrick/Cleverly/Anderson as I still feel we play a lot better when he starts, however I fully expect Cleverly and Anderson to get a lot of action this season.
I have not put in Ashley Young into the starting XI as I definitely rate Nani a lot more - and cannot leave out Valencia.
Nani is of course, favoured to the right wing, however he has scored some super goals cutting in from the left, and I feel he will have to adopt this position more so, as he will not be able to knock Valencia off his purch.

Thoughts people?

Think rio could miss out and not sure if rvp wud start...looks a grt starting XI though and yea fergie might prefer the experienced scholes in a tough 1st fixture...heres my XI:

-------------David-------------
Rafael--Micheal--Nema--Pats
----------Tom----Ando--------
Toni-------Wayne------Ashley
------------Danny----------

Subs: Shinji(ashley); Paul(tom); Robin (Danny)

Thx eds..
Joey

Don't think Ferdinand is fit Carrick is a certainty to play and Nani will not play against a physical team like Everton imo
DeGea,Raphael,Carrick.Vidic,Evra,Valencia Cleverley, Scholes,Kagawa,Wellbeck and Wazza RVP will play last 30 minutes amd make his full debut Saturday against Fulham
ARB

20 Aug 2012 15:27:00
Hey Guys and girls,

Just got back from the V festival (Noel Gallagher was immense btw) and still buzzing about our puchase of RVP and what do i find but we have signed our long awaited left back. Dont know a great deal about him if im honest so if anyone has any info much appreciated. Oh and to hear the scousers got battered aswell..... .... topped my weekend off nicely.

So what odds on a CM signing too? Fergie did say 2 to sign so are we done? looking forward to finding out and watching the game tonight.

Welsh Red

20 Aug 2012 15:11:55
i would think kaka on 1 year loan deal if true could do a good job for united after all he could not be any worse than give the ball away giggs

But the problem is having to play them both!

I think the premiere league physically will not be right for him. He does not have the legs for it.I am still hopeful we sign a quality midfielder

20 Aug 2012 13:04:32
Edds is it true that man city have sign de Rossi

Ross {Ed002's Note - No, but they are interested.}

Ed, who is the other club interested in De Rossi? Thanks.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - Anzhi Makhachkala. Both will miss out as De Rossi will announce later today that he is staying in Rome.}

20 Aug 2012 13:51:31
What is Fergie getting us at? Is he bringing in Kaka at 30 to increase and improve our game or what?
We are asking for a young,strong and injury free mildfielder who can match the tempo of premier league week in week out.
Witsel is preferable and will improve our game.
Let us hold unto the Devils we know to the unknown

20 Aug 2012 13:36:33
Kaka, baines and Wistel will NOT sign. Only player after Buttner is looking at being nothing big. Sorry to say but we are what 500m + in debt?

Mate when we signed Kagawa everyone started glooming saying we not getting anyone else, no more money, no more anything gonna be crap next season. Then Powell and then Boom RVP!

Then RVP signed and most said no more money now and that will be that, now all of a sudden butters has turned up and we are linked with Kaka.

The morale of this story is shut up and see what Fergie does.

1redarmy

Sorry to say but we are NOT £500m+ in debt.

Sydney!

I bet you said we wouldn't get RVP.......

CAIN

Probably the same person who said we wouldn't sign anyone after Kagawa and Powell, or that we wouldn't spend over 20m on a player, and said RVP would be our last signing, and now its Buttner is our last signing. Lets just face it you don't know whats gonna happen the same as the rest of us.

Shappy

Were not even close to £500 mill in debt ppl need to keep up

Don't know why people are so negative. United have a bright future. Just imagine what would happen if the sugar daddys got bored of their toys. The clubs would be finished. That could never happen to us we are just to big

20 Aug 2012 12:54:49
Anyone know for sure if Rio is injured? Or if Evans is back in training yet? Jones and Smalling are out for 1 & 2 months. I just hope this season turn out to be another disaster with injuries.

I think if we go with Carrick tonight then Jelavic & Fellaini will have a field day. Vidic is still getting his fitness. Tonight may be the case that we will have to score more than them. Maybe a 2-1 or 3-2 win for us.

If Rio is out then maybe...

________De Gea
Rafael_Carrick_Vidic_Evra
Valencia__Scholes__Young
_________Kagawa
______RVP____Rooney

Lindegaard, Wooton, Nani, Cleverly, Welbeck, Giggs, Hernandez.

Dylan

I have heard that Evens is back tonight ! I agree with having so many defenders out , we should try to score one more then Everton ....
So , what about this ..
-------------DDG----------------

-------Evans --Vid--Evra---------
--Tony------------------Young/Nani
---------Carrick---Clev/Ando-------

--------------Kag----------------
--------Roo --------RVP -------
---

Attack attack attack !!

20 Aug 2012 12:47:05
We should play Scott Wooton tonight or give Tom Thorpe a go just not Carrick in the air fellani will destroy him!

Caolán.

Fellaini would murder Wootton and Thorpe. They are not even close to being ready for someone like Fellaini. Hopefully Evans or Rio will be fit, but Carrick is the next best thing.

Sydney!

Disagree completely. Away at Everton you need experience. You can't just throw in young lads and expect them to perform there. Its a very intimidating ground against a decent, hardworking team. They are Merseyside's best so we shouldn't take them lightly :)

#ags

Fellani might not be playing tonight
jred

Fellanis injured

We have Vidic to deal with Arial threats, if we press high up the pitch and attack attack attack, i dont see how they will beat us,

Cban

20 Aug 2012 12:37:59
i personally thing that kaka would be a great addition to the squad. i think the talent he has would be a great benefit as a match winner even thou he is 30.

i think with sir Alex help he'l bounce back to form of previous years

but i think the best thing about having him at united is the impression he'l have on the younger players at the club to play with some who is great as kaka an maybe give ando some key advice to improve his game play an get goals. yes i know they are two different players but come on its kaka an he has knowledge of the game the ando will need to learn to be as great as he can be.

anyone agree or i only one who sees certain sense in this move IF it happens??

foreverunited

He plays in the same role that both Rooney and Kagawa play in. He is slow, can't tackle, doesn't track back, and was unable to step up at Real. He is a past it bottler who would be third choice in his position at the club. He can't play anywhere else on the pitch. There is no reason to sign him at all, even on loan. The US is about his current level.

Danny Pughnited

20 Aug 2012 17:44:27
at Danny Pughnited...that is one of the worst descriptions of a player I have ever seen. Kaka can play attacking midfield, left wing, right wing or just behind the main striker. He's made 90 odd appearances in 3 seasons for Madrid with about 30 goals and 30 assists. Given the depth of that Madrid side, they're good stats. Kaka would walk on to pretty much any team in the PL aside from maybe Chelsea. The US is about is current level?

Andy!

20 Aug 2012 12:10:13
Anyone think Valencia as RB today?

Rafael

Yep, Rafael will be more worn out than Valencia.

1redarmy

20 Aug 2012 11:24:52
Saf to start tonites match with a 451 formation of

Degea
Raphael--vidic--carrick--evra
Valencia-cleverly-scholes-Anderson-kagawa(lm)
Rooney

He will then take scholes off and bring on RVP and switch to a 4411 with Rooney playing just off RVP

Just my opinion this lads

Big Stevvy

Rooney

I would take out Anderson and stick Kagawa Central but higher up the pitch than the other two. I really want RVP to start.

1redarmy

20 Aug 2012 11:14:28
Johny Evans will be playing along side Vidic tonight , Carrick will start in midfield.""
dear unnamed sir
inadvertantly or otherwise
ngiak fears you have just exposed
our only 2 weak links
against a physically strong everton side
gan

I dont feel either is a week link, both tremendous players,however Evans is obviously a gamble as he's had no game time in pre season,however it's a predicament we find ourselves in due to the current injury crisis amongst our defenders.

Raffael

20 Aug 2012 09:00:24
My mate lives and works in Holland. Asked him about Alexander Buttner. He reckons at £4-5mill its a snip. He's fast.
"He touches every blade of grass"
Apparently in the air as we speak, for a medical later this morning.

I suppose with a name like BUTTNER, this rumour could be SPREADABLE? lol

Carryonvending

Oh dear... Does this mean people will be churning out butter jokes all day?

Gar

I think he could end up being a real Anchor in the defence. I would be Utterly disappointed if he hasn't replaced Evra by Christmas.

Sydney!

Playing at left back is his bread & Buttner, so i'm hoping he can challenge Evra.

Saying that Evra is poor, so if this guy has anything about him, he should be able to wipe the Flora with Evra.

I think he will consider himself to be kept in clover with this transfer, I just hope he can get to grips with our country life

He will certainly be rolling in our Kerrygold I also be he thought to himself Utd are trying to butter me up

Pardoe

I think if we can Spread it out wide to him he will toast players....

1redarmy

An people say sign baines I said I can't believe it's not buttner..... Any way glad to have the lad

CAIN

Clover

20 Aug 2012 07:18:16
Anyone think RVP will start tonight? I'm also hoping Cleverley starts alongside Anderson in the centre rather than Scholes. I'm assuming Carrick will be used as emergency centre back. I think this will ensure we start off with more attacking intent

Just over a month ago I mentioned the possibility of Kaka coming on loan to Utd....this was purely based on hope rather than any rumour. Now there is speculation I have to admit with the new signings I'm not so sure about having him. Think Witsel or Fellaini would be a better addition.....ianskip

Johny Evans will be playing along side Vidic tonight , Carrick will start in midfield.

I thought evans was injured, can u say with certainty that evans will start cos it would be a massive relief iff he did

I read on BBC sport that Evans was injured as well.... is this not the case? Really hope not as he had a standout season last seaon

20 Aug 2012 00:03:20
Firstly im an everton fan so take this how you want.

Strong talk about you getting kaka. Jose already said hes not arsed if he goes. Great player, lost his way a little but sir alex will get him back to his best. This would solve your CM problem. Please dont let those win the league for the 2nd time. All the best

If you could kindly let us beat you this evening then, that will be a good start.

Don't need Kaka,he certainly wouldn't solve our midfield problem as he isn't a tough tackling box2box midfielder.

Sydney!

20 Aug 2012 00:53:47
Has anyone seen the matchday squad yet? With our defense already hit with injuries I'd love to see Fergie use offense as the first line of defense. The addition of Van Persie could be exactly what Rooney needs. Rooney is the best playmaker we have but has been having to come deep to get the ball which unfortunately took our best goal scorer away from the goal. Adding VP could put Rooney into a "free" role while still having a solid target man up front.

De Gea
Rafael Vidic Carrick Evra
Scholes
Valencia Kagawa Nani
Rooney
Van Persie

I'd expect Carrick & Scholes or Clevs in Midfield. Maybe Kagawa, Rooney or RVP from the wing to make it all fit?

DodgyBanter

I hope Carrick isn't in the back line or Fellaini will pump us like he did last season, sure as shyte Moyes will put him behind the striker after last seasons debacle

Pardoe

I doubt we will use offense as defense to be honest with you. I would most expect
De Gea
Rafael Vidic Carrick Evra
Scholes Cleverly
Valencia Kagawa Nani
Rooney
Effectively three midfielders to protect the back four and Valencia who can also drop back. RVP Welbeck and Hernandez on the bench to make us more attakive if necessary.

Welsh Dragon

Pardoe, Vidic will eat Felliani for his dinner tonight...

19 Aug 2012 22:06:18
I might be wrong, and admittedly probably am, but could this apparent Kaka link be anything to do with the BWIN sponsorship??

Sambo

19 Aug 2012 23:59:14
Sir Alex is thought to be monitoring the CB situation. With Rio, Jones, Smalling and Evans all out for the start of the campaign, Vasco da Gama's Brazilian centre-half Dedé seems a good fit for the club- he's tall, strong, and remarkably quick for a centre-half, not to mention that he's young (he just turned 24 in July).

It should be noted that it is unlikely that any move will be made in the current summer window. However, depending on the situation closer to Christmas, United may again turn their attentions to the Liga do Brasil during the January window. (let's hope this time it turns out better than it did with Lucas Moura!)

jpem27

So when everyone's back and fit, we'll buy someone we don't need because 5 months earlier we were short because of injuries?!

Not saying we won't get someone, but if Fergy's worried it'll be now.

DodgyBanter