Manchester United Banter Archive June 20 2015

20 Jun 2015 20:08:24
Are we interested in W. Carvalho looks like he's progressing quite nicely and could do well sitting in front of our defence? Get Kondogbia as well, no goals and with Lacazette banging them in aswell, PL, UCL champs! Sorted!

20 Jun 2015 20:12:32
We have probably been linked to Carvalho for at least the last 4 windows so its a possibility.

20 Jun 2015 20:36:35
Kondogbia is off to Inter Milan last I heard

20 Jun 2015 20:37:23
Just what we need .An awesome cdm £28 million is a good deal in todays market i do hope LVG makes a move shortly

20 Jun 2015 20:44:39
Carvalho to Arsenal is the latest rumor, and Kondogbia seems headed to Inter. WIth the media, it is hard to accept anything until it is official. All great prospects, though.

20 Jun 2015 21:30:45
Apparently we've interest but he's not top of the list.

20 Jun 2015 22:21:56
He's arsenal bound for sure unfortunately.

20 Jun 2015 23:14:21
Kondogbia to inter. Carvallho to arsenal and Schneiderlin to us looks the most likely outcome if you scan the Internet and forum pages.
Question is who gets the best deal as the prices are roughly the same. give or take. A few million!

{Ed004's Note - Or we may be holding off on Scheiderlin because we are waiting on Schweinsteiger}

20 Jun 2015 23:17:34
If he's Arsenal bound that could help us in signing Schneiderlin which would be brilliant. From what I've seen Carvalho is very good but I'd take Schneiderlin ahead of him. He'd fit right into our system and would be an ideal central midfielder.

20 Jun 2015 23:41:59
I know Schneiderlin is not seen as a typical no. 6 according to Ed001 but neither was Carrick until Saf moulded him into one. They seem to have similar qualities though and we haven't played with a full on defensive midfielder for a long time. Could he be moulded into that role? At Southampton he needed Wanyama next to him but at a top level club which retains lots of possession would he need the same cover?

I honestly don't know the answer so I'd be interested to hear people's views, Shappy Moon and anyone else who watches a lot of other teams.

Is he capable of dictating play from the back and putting in enough of a defensive shift to allow the likes of Herrera to break forward? Or is he only good when he himself has the license to attack at well as defend?

21 Jun 2015 01:48:45
I'll post something about MS tomorrow evening, if I forget he covered my in my review analysis

21 Jun 2015 11:53:01
I get the feeling that the order of priority is Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, William Carvalho, De Jong.

Gundogan I think is on a totally seperate list for a more advanced position.

21 Jun 2015 12:08:19
badger
i don't think its his best position but i do think he can play there but doing it his own way.
he can sit and break it up like carrick but breaking forward and playing b2b is his best asset and it would be daft to take that away from his game .
so he will need some cover .
i don't think he can play the carrick role but i do think he can play a very important role for united doing it his own way

21 Jun 2015 14:51:09
Ok cheers, jred

20 Jun 2015 16:54:17
Might get slated for this, but seen today that both city and Chelsea are tracking Alex song and couldn't help but think why aren't we in for him? I'm not saying he'd be the answer to all our midfield problems but he'd add quality and depth to our squad. He's only 27 even though it seems like he's been around forever and barca supposedly only looking 5mil for him.

20 Jun 2015 17:27:28
Chelsea are signing him to replace mikel which tells you all you need to know about the quality of him.

20 Jun 2015 17:26:30
Who says they are? The internet fabricazzi (new word coined right here and now) could interpret my grandmother's eructations as a corroborative sign we're in for someone.

In any event, if he ain't good enough for Barcelona he certainly ain't good enough for us!

20 Jun 2015 18:14:12
We should have signed him 2 seasons ago, he has a great connection/understanding with RVP and he would have been like two signings. Now it wouldn't be half as valuable as RVP is finished for me.

20 Jun 2015 18:17:43
Wayne rooney wouldn't be good enough for Barcelona and he's arguably our best player, also seem to remember a young man named yaya toure who was deemed not good enough for them, don't know what ever happened to him :-/

20 Jun 2015 18:39:55
I think its because he's home grown that's probably the only reason why.

20 Jun 2015 20:12:59
Didn't any of you think Song performed well at West Ham? Being a Chelsea fan I'd be pleased with him as midfield depth. I however doubt the validity of the report.

20 Jun 2015 20:49:53
Yes, Yaya Toure has been great at City within the EPL, but what have they won in Europe? And in comparison, since he left, what have Barcelona won?

I was being a little facetious in my response. Song is a good player but to my mind his opportunity to really excel has been and gone. His first half if the season at West Ham was excellent but it tailed off somewhat, and as Beast notes he did have a good understanding with RVP but that isn't going to happen again. At this point in time his future at any big club is as a squad player.

20 Jun 2015 22:30:06
Meh

He's ok as a Dm but a bit too lazy at the top level. He's ok at b2b but not that creative and doesn't stand out, which is why Arsenal were happy to see him go. A decent squad player perhaps but we should be looking to improve our starting 11 rather than finding decent squad players.

Apparently he counts as homegrown which is why Chelsea/city will see him as a useful signing.

20 Jun 2015 22:36:19
Jackson - Yes he did well for West Ham and dominated some games, but he would only really be a squad player for any team looking to do well in Europe or win the league. He is too much of a liability now for an LVG possession based game

I think people underestimate how many chances he created for RVP when at Arsenal, we would have seen a much better RVP and a more creative midfield had we signed him 2 years ago. Now RVP is virtually finished he would be another squad player and Utd need world class starters desperately, we are full of 6/7 out of 10's - we need our Matic or Fabregas (first half of the season).

20 Jun 2015 22:54:33
Beast, yes they did do well together for a while but I'm not sure I agree that 2 players can be made for each other in some magical sense. It's probably a case of things clicking at a particular moment or just good coaching, surely a player better than Song would be more effective given the right coaching and system. Just because they had a good season or two together doesn't make it some kind of magical relationship that cannot be replicated with other player(s).

21 Jun 2015 08:26:10
I agree that a top club shouldn't bring him in to be an instant starter. But as midfield depth I felt he is an interesting player. He has experience at the top level, he probably won't be expensive and is still only 27 I think. So as back up, that's pretty good IMO.

{Ed001's Note - he wants something like 100k a week, he doesn't track back and thinks he is some kind of superplayer. I would suggest steering well clear.}

21 Jun 2015 15:29:41
Really, Ed?? 100k is a little over the top. Guys like Matic and Oscar don't even get that. I still think playing wise he'd be a good addition but those wages are indeed high.

20 Jun 2015 10:21:35
Seen Pereira's goal in the u20 final?!