Manchester United Banter Archive November 20 2017

 

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20 Nov 2017 23:37:22
Just wanted to give a shout out to Darren Fletcher. When you think of the illness that he had, I think a lot of people thought he would quietly fade away after leaving Utd. But 100 consecutive Premier League appearances since he left, is an amazing achievement. Also became the Scotsman with the most appearances in the EPL, tonight. Incredible determination on his part, and a fantastic achievement.

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21 Nov 2017 00:39:59
Well said Noucamp.

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21 Nov 2017 00:43:46
Absolutely mate!

Brilliant player for us and obvious warrior on and off the pitch.

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20 Nov 2017 23:33:30
Top of the table clash in my dream team this week.

£8m to spend on a midfielder.

Martial or Pogba?

If Martial plays, he'll obviously be playing in an attacking role, and yet he's listed as a midfielder, so obvious chance for points. But it's a big if. Pogba pretty much guaranteed to start, but not so much of a goal threat.

Any help would be appreciated.

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21 Nov 2017 07:52:26
Well there’s no guarantee that Martial will set so I’d stay with a Pogba who is also handy with goals.

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21 Nov 2017 19:31:56
Pogba mate. Martial is a bigger gamble. Pogba shoots more than a porn star, Martial gets dragged off as well if he does start.

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21 Nov 2017 20:28:26
Yeah, think Pogba's the safer choice. Of course, it's now guaranteed Martial will get a hat trick.

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20 Nov 2017 17:29:48
Hey ed002,thanks for the great sharkopad as always 👍
You mentioned a couple of times that mourinho may go in the summer, do you think this could happen and who would be the possible candidates to replace him IF he did go? thanks 👍.

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{Ed002's Note - That is why I said "may". As I said before, I don't want to getting in to what the options will be just yet.}

20 Nov 2017 17:47:23
Pochettino would be the fans pick. Getting him from Spurs may prove tricky. Can't see this getting addressed until the summer anyway.

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20 Nov 2017 20:16:08
Shane

I like Pochettino, plays some nice football however, he hasn’t won anything and seems to struggle to win the vital games when It really matters.

Some fans will want him but not all, for me he still has to show what Jose has loads of, being a winner.

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20 Nov 2017 21:48:28
Well said Red Man 👍.

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20 Nov 2017 22:00:57
Either the young talented chap up at Celtic if we want British or if we go foreign then the skilled tactician up in Newcastle.

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20 Nov 2017 22:22:48
Or keep Jose who is better than all of them.

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20 Nov 2017 22:28:50
I don't really think of recruitments until the windows itself or end of the season. I don't have preference on either manager. As long as the results and the performances are coming. I don't take too much notice.

Im sure Mourinho will stay. He just using the "PSG link" to increase his say within the club as most successful managers do and probably earn himself a better contract. Can't blame him. He did win trophies last season.

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20 Nov 2017 22:54:59
Jose going nowhere imo.

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20 Nov 2017 22:59:37
As it stands -for me its jose all the way for me.

Poch is a good shout but maybe in 12 months time.

Anf i'd hate benitez at UTD.

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21 Nov 2017 11:04:23
Jose will go if he doesn't get what he wants I believe but I'm sure there will be some sort of compromise. I hope that is the case because I'd like to see Jose continue to build what he has started. No good looking at another manager now, we really need stability.

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21 Nov 2017 12:40:41
People obviously need to retune their sarcasm filters.

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21 Nov 2017 23:12:22
Oh. 🙂 retuning is done.

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20 Nov 2017 16:49:01
Ed001, great article on pele.
What a player the reason football became famous was because of pele.
I remember watching the film escape to victory and myself and my mates playing football out in the road breaking our backs of the concrete trying to do bicycle kicks. I still have a hard back after it.

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{Ed001's Note - hahahaha I remember hurting myself a few times trying to do those, but not because of Escape to Victory or Pele, as I am obviously not as old as you, as they were both before my time. Have to admit, shamefully I have never seen Escape to Victory!}

20 Nov 2017 17:18:27
Ed a film you should watch, ed I thought you were around the same age as myself.

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{Ed001's Note - I have no idea how old you are but it seems I am much much younger. Someone around here has to be young and pretty....}

20 Nov 2017 18:34:14
Is that not Bond's job, Ed007?

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{Ed001's Note - he is old and decrepit mate, he has never been young or pretty. He is like Benjamin Button, except he was born old and is getting older.}

20 Nov 2017 19:01:02
Ed just out of interest do you write for any newspapers or internet blogs as you are fairly good at it.

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{Ed001's Note - only for these sites and for the youtube channel linked in the articles sometimes. I don't have the qualifications to get a job writing for newspapers etc, as I was told once many years ago when I was recommended to a newspaper. They got me in for an interview (long before the sites were actually anything more than a hobby) on the back of what I wrote on the original site, but were no longer interested once they saw I had no qualifications.}

20 Nov 2017 20:16:57
Ed I worked in buildings, plastering, block laying and I see blokes coming on with qualifications and they wouldn't build a house with Lego, then you see the boys with no qualifications but plenty of experience now there the boys that can build.
My old fella was a tree surgeon and I got in to the chainsaw work about 7 or 8 years ago and I've seen fellas with qualifications nearly killing themselves knocking trees.
I just can bare these fellas with qualifications who wouldn't work to warm themselves. Rant over.

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{Ed001's Note - you are preaching to the converted mate, natural aptitude will always be more important than qualifications, though I wish the coaching fraternity would remember that. Far too many coaches with lots of badges but no idea about the game.}

20 Nov 2017 21:02:48
Yes ed I've seen that also. can't beat experience. same with some players ed they are over coached, they don't play with freedom and natural instinct.

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{Ed001's Note - very much so, they don't get to play in the streets like we used to, sadly. That is why indoor versions, such as futsal are so important for players to develop flair.}

20 Nov 2017 23:05:05
I remember seeing an article about the England set-up at St George's, and the overwhelming sense was one of bright, young, wet-behind-the-ears teachers and analysts walking round with clipboards. When you think of the experience amongst recent ex-England players going to waste.

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20 Nov 2017 23:32:49
Have the England under aged teams not going through their best ever ruin of results ever winning euro and world cups. Someone is doing something right with these elite players.

Its thre rough diamonds that don't get access to the elite coaches and facilities and education that are suffering.

The elite underage coaching is fine all belie that is a mess and Tyne fa need to sort it in order to become a superpower art international level again. Too many youngsters getting too much too soon and never fulfilling the potential they had as teenagers.

I have no idea what The answer is but premier league clubs are not bringing through enough English youngsters.

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20 Nov 2017 23:46:19
99 there's a lot of them blokes around and they can't even kick a ball. Get the scholes the Gerrards. lampards coaching, people will sit back and listen to them boys.

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21 Nov 2017 14:57:04
Or roy Keane. because that's gone well unless you support Ipswich Sunderland or Ireland.
The best players don't always make the best coaches in fact they seldom do.
And not too many retiring epl players want to coach for 25k per annum at an acadamy or for free at grass roots.

The whole system needs updating in the UK from grass roots right through to the epl, that is of course unless everybody in Spain Holland Germany italy and France has it wrong and all those world cup and euro wins were flukes.

At grass roots level I've seen referees parents and coaches come to blows and have arguments at u12 age group. I mean they don't even play competitive football in Spain or Germany or Holland at that age.

But as I said perhaps they all have it wrong!

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{Ed001's Note - a lot of the problems stem from the ridiculous cost of getting badges meaning you only get people doing it who see it as a career. The enthusiastic amateur simply cannot afford to do them and so you end up with a bunch at the bottom end coaching kids with a chip on their shoulder as they think they should be coaching Premier League teams.}

21 Nov 2017 16:15:33
Its a good film though. Forget the ropey acting its just entertainment.

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{Ed001's Note - I will have to watch it one day when I have some spare time.}

21 Nov 2017 16:25:21
That is one off the issues ed but the structure of underage football is all wrong couple that with the pressure put on under 8 div z to win its not conducive to developing player skills.

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{Ed001's Note - very true, but again part of that is down to the coaches wanting to show how good they are to get promoted up the chain. Youth coaching should be seen as the highest level, it is the most important time and when a coach can have the most impact on a player's development, if they are good.}

20 Nov 2017 13:41:09
I'm not sure what other people's opinion is and although I'd like United to endeavour to catch City, I am happy with second place! To go from 6th last year to 2nd this year is fine with me! Build from there and go again next year I say.

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20 Nov 2017 13:52:32
I’m sorry Luke but I can’t disagree with this more! We should NEVER settle for second best. We are Manchester United. Winning is in our DNA and once we start to settle for second best then we lose what makes us so special. I feel we have lost some of our soul since Fergie has left but I think slowly Jose is bringing it back.

I get what you mean that going from 6th to 2nd is decent but it isn’t for us. Maybe for spurs and Liverpool it is but we should always being aiming for first. Anything less is failure in my eyes. I think with our full team and pogba pulling the strings we have a decent side. I think we should enjoy chasing city down as we used to back in the day under Fergie. This is a crucial Xmas period and we need to build up a head of steam. Bring on city in 3 weeks time!

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20 Nov 2017 16:44:25
Luke, are you really happy with 2nd place? We're Manchester United for God's sake. We can't be happy with 2nd. We need to win the league pretty soon and I've got to say, I can't see City slipping up. I think the league will more or less be over by February. They have a strong defence despite what deluded people think. They also have an incredibly talented midfield and attack.
We have Brighton followed by Watford and Arsenal and I can't see us getting more than 4 points out of these three games.
Our team looks totally unbalanced. Two wingers playing at full backs. Two strikers playing as wingers. Two centre backs who frankly speaking are not United quality (smalling and Lindelof) . Lots of work needed and lots of money and intelligence has to go into our next purchases.
So I'm not happy we're 2nd but we won't be anywhere near City come the end of season.

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20 Nov 2017 17:08:47
In an ideal world of cpurse we want to be first in the league - that's who we r!

But to put a bit of persepctive on the postion we finish in -

What IF we finish 2nd in the league but our points and goal tally is enough that we would have actually won the league with the same amount over the last few yrs. Meaning city win it breaking a ptem reord for points.

I wouldn't be happy to lose and come 2nd but it would show a massive improvemnt.

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20 Nov 2017 18:12:39
Why do we think we should be 1st just becuase we are man utd. the past means absolutely nothing people need to stop living the FERGIE dream.

Times have changed football has changed.

You live in the present and work hard and fight.

Being 1st is earnt not demanded becuase of past accolades.


I can see where he's coming from saying "happy with 2nd" becuase I think a lot of us would be happy with 2nd.

That's not saying WERE not aiming for first. I don't think you go into a season aiming for anything less than first. But just becuase of who the club is you can t just expect to be first. That's is given through being earnt.

We have played 12 games and already people are slating the team and the manager

We will be blaming the nets and the pitch soon.

Yes there's things that can be improved on but there's a reason why we're just fans.

We're far better improved than last season and even more so than the season before. Let's judge the team at the end of the season.


AAA - you say from our next 3 games we won't get more than 4 points what's that based on?

We're having our best season since we last won it. Scoring goals for fun and playing attacking football.

We've had 2 losses and the majority have gone into absolute meltdown.

If city were not doing as good as they are. the MAJORITY would be quite happy.

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20 Nov 2017 18:29:32
Some have interpreted my comment as it was intended, others have not. I just feel that next summer if we have finished second that upon reflection I’d be completely ok with that. It would demonstrate a lot of improvement and the best season since Fergie left with reference to the league, and to me that’s ok! The cliche Rome wasn’t built in a day seems relevant here, I’d obviously have higher expectations next season but after taking several steps in the wrong direction in the last few years I’d be happy that we’re actually heading in the right direction again! I always hope United won the league of course I do but as some posters have mentioned there’s still areas of the team that need some work.

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20 Nov 2017 18:29:58
We should never aim anything less than winning the league every season. We don't want to become complacent like Arsenal. Way to early yet to be settling for places. If we get to the end of the season and end up finishing 2nd. I don't think it be the end of the world. I do expect though to compete for every competition until we realistically can't anymore.

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20 Nov 2017 20:39:02
I think we are far more competative now since Jose took over.

And last year proved are capable of winning trophies

Alot of the more experienced players have gone.

We are still in a transition and we are making positive steps

He may be annoying with the way he acts somtimes but he gets the job done and is a top class manager.


There's more than 1 trophy up for grabs and were far from out the race yet.

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21 Nov 2017 00:08:50
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Can't work out if you are serious or not 😂.

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20 Nov 2017 12:37:28
Not a bad day already for your mob, because at least you won't after pay any compensation, for Maureen's twin in Pullis to become his assistant let's face Maureen is just a rich Tony Pullis with there hoofball thuggery tactics.

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20 Nov 2017 12:49:07
🤣🤣🤣🤣 so proud.

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20 Nov 2017 12:55:11
I thought he’d meet the criteria for the Liverpool job personally, after all you don’t take winners at your club, management or playing staff.

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20 Nov 2017 13:00:32
Do you write that in crayon and get yr mam to type it, if u managed yourself get off your mams phone we don't want you getting into trouble with her . Pepper pig is on soon be a good lad or you know who won't come at christmas.

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20 Nov 2017 13:21:26
🤣🤣 slate151 👊.

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20 Nov 2017 13:23:34
Mighty red draws you into a battle of wit but then you have to pull back as you realise he's an unarmed opponent.

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20 Nov 2017 13:24:14
Must have been deleted by Ed for my last biological termed response.
Mighty reds you really must crawl back to under your rock to look into the mirror. You are not wanted by your club’s supporters and you just trying to stir here. Why don’t you come back when Pool loses and try to tell us some substance? You have totally no grey matters between your ears only but knows how to stir 💩 unfortunately.

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20 Nov 2017 13:30:20
Take it you didn't see the game Saturday evening then Mighty? Maybe worry about your league position eh?

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20 Nov 2017 13:31:28
And to think Mourine won the CL with Little old Porto and your "Worls Class" clown of a manager couldn't do it with a far superior BD team. Everyone laugh at Mighty.

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20 Nov 2017 13:47:05
Mighty Reds surely you need to change yr name "Once Mighty" more accurately reflects yr teams true nature. Or perhaps "mighty daydreamer". Let's look at the stats we have won more than you this season, scored more, let in less, play to bigger crowds both home and away. Every year it's going to be "our year" and in all honesty even you have to admit you won't win the league this year. You are likely to lose your best player in the Jan or summer transfer market. Keep on dreaming.

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20 Nov 2017 14:04:47
Jesus lads, you do know this is why he comes on here, to get a kick out of posters and fish for responses. The best way to respond is not respond at all.

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20 Nov 2017 14:58:24
Mighty is that the same pulis that was managing West Brom when Liverpool drew 2-2 and the Liverpool players and manager joined hands and celebrated like they were after winning the league. Lol ha ha.

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20 Nov 2017 15:23:56
Yes we know why he comes on to the Utd site. Can't help himself. Must be a closet Utd supporter who just feels guilty about revealing his true affections. This is a banter site so as long as it's all in good fun long may it continue.

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20 Nov 2017 15:26:27
I think I agree ........................

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{Ed002's Note - I deleted your offensive post. It simply shows how bad some supporters are dealing with banter. Embarrassing for you to simply term abusive.}

20 Nov 2017 16:46:06
Sure Ed thanks for the reminder.
In the heat of the moment. My sincere apologies.

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{Ed002's Note - You are welcome - try and play nice.}

20 Nov 2017 16:53:39
Sure I will especially soon nice I am yellow carded 🙏.

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20 Nov 2017 17:59:05
Mighty red

Well done you got loads of bites with that post 🎣.

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20 Nov 2017 11:42:23
Not posted since the game Saturday night but my that was good to watch. From the line up I was excited, hopefully he sticks to that starting XI going forward, Bailly in the only change I'd make.
What a rub off Pogba had on us, maybe he said more influential then anyone thought, happy to see the front 4 as they was set up, not sure where it leaves Mkhitarian atm but he's been poor of late.
I'd expect more of the same against Brighton at the weekend, only down side is of course I don't see city slipping up at Huddersfield.
Tbf to us, plus 21 good and 26pts would have us top most years so all we can do is carry on in this vein and I think all fans would be happy.

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20 Nov 2017 13:32:13
I've said all season Pogba is by far our best player. I. Ant believe some of the criticism he receives. We miss him massively when he's not involved but.

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20 Nov 2017 19:15:43
Totally agree stand. Pogba had a good season last year I thought. But the press were determined to knock him down due to his price tag and unfortunately some of our supporters joined in.
Now that Neymar has been sold for 2 and half times more and some average players being sold for £60m, pogba at £89m doesn't look to bad, does it?
He is class and will walk in any team. Wish we had more talent like him.

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Legends of Football Number 3: Pele

20 Nov 2017 10:11:18
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Legends of Football Number 3: Pele

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Pele

20 Nov 2017 10:06:16
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new player profile about, Pele

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20 Nov 2017 08:40:11
Dear Santa,

Here is my Man Utd Xmas wish list:

1. Danny Rose

That is all.

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20 Nov 2017 11:21:16
Anyone else think we should try and beat Citeh to signing Sanchez? Reason being he would get in to our first team whereas he would probably be on the bench at City.

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20 Nov 2017 11:42:18
Rash and martial in the same team, pogba back and firing, moderate opposition and plenty of goals and the feel good factor back .
I hope we don't forget how badly our midfield suffered creatively without pogba and if fellani leaves I hope we get a back up cm, not easy unlikely to be a first team regular and must have some creatively and be able to see a decisive forward pass but not cost the earth as it basically cover for pogba . I'd monitor shelvey over the next month . I agree rose would be a great addition .

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20 Nov 2017 13:48:46
Def go for Sanchez.

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20 Nov 2017 22:29:41
Rose and Sanchez will be fine then.

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21 Nov 2017 00:51:23
I'm sorry, did you just say Shelvey? Voldemort's scouse illegitimate son? Behave.

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Premier League Match Preview Monday 20th November 2017

20 Nov 2017 06:36:54
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Premier League Match Preview Monday 20th November 2017

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