Manchester United Banter Archive September 21 2012

21 Sep 2012 22:51:28
So..... What does everyone think the team for sunday will be?

4411

-----------Lind
Rafa--Ferdy--Vidic--Evra
Toniv--Clevs--Carri--Nani
-------Kagawa----------
------------RVP---------

I think this is what it will be but I would prefer 433 or 4231 with Buttner instead of Evra and De Gea instead of Lindegaard.

George

Think de gea will definitely start.

TRUMORS

That formation is basically a 4231 or a 433 formation players rnt just gona stand still for the whole game

Trumors - I want him to start but I can see Fergie picking Lindegaard because of Liverpool's threat from corners and free kicks with Skrtel and Agger.

If DDG plays, watch Skirtel assault him at the first opportunity (off the ball), and for a commentator to say DDG isn't strong enough.

DodgyBanter

21 Sep 2012 21:29:26
Flimbo, SAF spends enough time on the training pitch I assure you...

Whistler.

I'm afraid you're wrong there. Just google Gerard Piques interview about the different styles of SAF and Pep Guardiola, that will enlighten you my friend!

Flimbo

Flimbo have you ever seen a training session he doesn't sit inside and wait he is there at the sessions he just doesn't run around or get involved due to his age etc look at pep, avb etc theyre all young and can still do that sort of thing Fergie stands around watching and coaching obviously otherwise he may aswell not be there.

21 Sep 2012 20:17:24
Everyone else is posting their preferred teams for Sunday.. So I thought I would join in!

------------De Gea
--Rafael--Rio---Vidic--Buttner
--------Carrick-Cleverly
-----------Kagawa
--Toni-------RVP------Nani

- Would love this to be the starting line-up.
- Lindegaard will most probably start instead of De Gea unfortunately!
- I would give Nani one more shot, he was an attacking threat on Wednesday. Even though I cursed his name several times.
- I want to see Kagawa and Cleverly making strong runs and passes into the box.
- Evans maybe for Rio to add a little pace into the CB's but Rio and Vidic don't have many mistakes in them.
- I want Buttner to play mainly due to the Evra and Suarez situation.

Any opinions to this squad? Please tell me them!

-JakeW

Not done one yet...

_________DDG
Raf__Ferdy___Vida___Evra
________Carrick
____Clevs_____Ando
Tony_______________Nani
_________Rvp

If we're chasing the game, Hernandez on for Ando, would have picked him as second striker... But at Anfield can't see SAF playing 2 strikers... Unless Rooney is actually fit.

Looking forward to Sunday, come on Gooners (didn't think I'd ever say that!) and come on Utd!

DodgyBanter

Dodgy
i would maybe swap kagawa for nani but i think that looks a pretty good team
jred

Dodgy, I wouldn't be surprised to see that team but with Lindegaard and Welbeck in for DDG and Nani. I wouldn't be surprised to see Giggs instead of Anderson too.

Sydney!

21 Sep 2012 19:54:48
Team prediction for Liverpool:

_________Lindegaard
Rafael__Evans__Vidic__Evra
____Clevs__Carrick__Giggs
____Tony___RVP___Kags

Personally instead of Giggs and Evra I would much prefer Buttner and Anderson. Sterling will enjoy being up against out of position Evra and Giggs won't drive forward as well as Anderson would do. De Gea also deserves to play however Lindegaard I think will be given the nod. As usual I think we will go with experience, this is the tried and tested method which is quite often successful, however not always.

I hope that we do not play too cagey like last year and just sit back. With that line up we will have options on the bench with Hernandez, Nani and I still think that Rooney is a possiblity regardless of what SAF has had to say!

Fresh!

I have a feeling that SAF may go for that and we may sit back but I would hate that..... I would play what you said with Ando and Butts but Evra will start which is questionable after Butts performance....Maybe we could even put Kags where Giggs is and Nani out wide.

21 Sep 2012 18:01:59
I still can't stop laughing at the posts I saw here after the Wigan. Most of the predictions were an easy win against Gala, and some went on to say we'll win by 4 or 6 goals. Amazingly these guys now think our CL campaign is over. Just wanted to ask them how can they make such predictions when we are playing in the CL in which the elite teams of Europe come to play? Also how can your opinion change so fast?

SHAITAN

Well if you compare the likes of Gala to any premier league team you instantly know they are not going to be much of a threat. I myself thought United would smash them, I was wrong and I accept that but surely if United can put 8 past Arsenal, 5 Past Aston Villa etc. Most would think they could put 3 or more against them. I myself though can't see United getting to the final, our team is too weak to play against the likes of Barcelona or Madrid, hope I am wrong though.

-JakeW

JakeW - Teams like FC Basel or Galatasaray may be like a mid table team in the Premiership or even worse but they always up their game against us and we are always complacent and under perform.

21 Sep 2012 17:43:28
Jred...if you watched Liverpool's last EPL game against Sunderland, you'll agree with me that Sterling played mostly on the right flank. It was 1-1 draw and the assist for the goal came from him, from the right flank which Suarez used in equalizing. Did you see what he did to their no3 who was substituted immediately after the goal? He beat the guy time and time again.

Sterling switches flanks, and what if he plays on the right against us? Buddy i'm concerned cos should he play against evra, the wing will really be exploited by the pacey and skillful lad...we'll definitely have a loophole there. I'd prefer Buttner there cos he's pacey, strong and rugged...the guy with his manacing run can bully his oppoments into submission.
I agree with you Sydney!

SAMFORD01

If he is playing on the right, Rafael will handle him and trust me he is not going to shred our right side. Evra on the left is a worry as he can go around or come inside him. I hope we play Valencia left midfield and that will give Evra cover with Anderson and Cleverly as the 2 in the middle. I have no Doubts SAF will play Evra as he always goes for experience in big games(not necessarily my preference).Shahram

And what about if nani/valencia pin him right back into his own half and exploit his defencive weakness? just a thought we dont have to worry about an 18yr old stearling if nani/valencia make him defend more than attack, i would back all 4 of my defence against suarez and stearling all day long, even evra!
Chris the REDman

Samford
i will be honest i never saw the sunderland game,
just a couple of question's if fergy picks evra is he wrong and your right?
how many times have you seen buttner play?
is buttner ready for a game like this?

i think you have missed my point , is the biggest issue on sunday sterling against evra imo its not.

i would suggest that fergy is in a better position to judge the pro's and cons of the situation.
to be honest im not sure evra will play but i think he prob will.
sterling is a good young player its seems you and syd rate him very highly
jred

It is not a matter of him being rated highly I thin the one thing that scares us about Sterling versus Evra is he has more pace and can put a good ball into the box where as Buttner has a lot of pace and on his last performance should be picked on merit.

Jred, it's not that I rate Sterling highly, it's that I do not rate Evra at all. Defensively he is a liability for us. I would prefer to play Jonny Evans there and tell Jonny to stay back at all times allowing the left winger to stay forward.

Sydney!

21 Sep 2012 15:23:35
syd
you seem a bit concerned about sterling v evra but any time ive seen sterling play for liverpool his played on the left.
jred

I am very concerned Jred mate. BR is not a silly man and will certainly let Sterling have a go at Evra during the game, Suarez will have a field day with Evra too. Look what Lennon used to do to Evra and Sterling is a similar player. I fear Vidic will get drawn in too often bailing out Evra and Vidic has a knack for giving away penalties and getting sent off at Anfield. Just think Buttner would be the way to go as he will hold no fear and he is quick and can tackle.

Sydney!

I think your obsessed syd, your starting to worry about a 17 year old lw attacking our lb.
ive never once seen sterling play rw.

i also think shappy made a good point yesterday liverpool dont really play down the wings sterling and saurez are more likely to play like old fashioned inside forwards.

i would be far more bothered about CM , possession and set pieces.
jred

Old fashioned inside forwards are met by fullbacks still so not sure what you are talking about. I have seen Sterling on the right side of the pitch in every game he has played in. Wingers to switch sides you know. It's a little thing called tactics mate. Now I am not an expert on BR, but I think even he could work out that putting his best winger up against our worst defender could be a good tactic.

Hardly obsessed, you asked me the question you burk ;)

Sydney!

I am sorry but any half decent winger will have a field day against Evra he is shocking..... No doubt Sterling or Suarez or Borini will be laughing at the team sheet when they see him playing.... Also I agree our CM will be in trouble too as they will play 433 with Gerrard, Allen and maybe Shelvey or Sahin which is alot of energy and we should play 433 to counter that with Carrick, Cleverley and Anderson.

Lol syd come on you must mention evra more than any other player, you've been saying his going to be dropped/sold day after day for over a year now.
yet fergy hasnt sold him and keeps picking him.
you want to play buttner and i can understand why but if fergy doesnt , whats the reason ?
you and many others myself included have questioned evra but fergy keeps picking him.
last season everyone wanted evra dropped for fabio, well ive watched fabio twice this season and to be honest he was poor

imo fergy is a good judge of a player if he picked evra over fabio what does that tell you?
if , and he may not but if he picks evra on sunday what does that tell you?

imo maybe not that evras great but that his understudy's are not ready.

united have bigger issues than evra.
there is more things wrong with united than evra.
the fact on wednesday that nani never tracked back and forgot his position.

or that while scholes is great on the ball when the other team has it his struggles.

or that there are major gaps in our midfield.

i would suggest that they are more important than evra.
put it this way if youcould buy a WC player tomorrow for the liverpool game woul it be a lb or a cm

for all your reason's syd fergy keeps picking him
jred

Jred, surely a Manchester United fan highlighting the team's inadequacies is something that would be frequently discussed on here? Therefore Evra being one of 2/3 worrying issues at United (along with CM/LW) will be discussed numerously and at length? Red Man talks about Nani in 99% of his posts, you and many others talk about our CM and myself and many discuss Evra. Funny enough these are the three weakest areas.

You say I keep talking about Evra yet the manager keeps picking him. I could turn that around onto you. Why do you keep questioning our CM when the manager KEEPS choosing to not buy a top quality Midfielder? Like you said, the manager is better placed than us to make a decision. So if I stop talking about the LB position will you stop talking about the CM position? Truth is if the manager had his own way this summer Baines would have been starting at LB for us. If the manager had his own way Hazard would be starting on the left instead of Nani and Modric would be in the midfield alongside Carrick. None of these come off for the manager, but it does prove that these are the three areas where the manager agrees need improving.

Sydney!

Syd
thats a fair point about lb and cm tobe fair.
also i will give you hazard not so sure about how much we really wanted modric and baines but im not going over that again.

you could also argue that seeing as fergy spent 27 mill on a 29 year old striker that was the area the manager thought needed improving.
jred

Syd
and dont forget fergy did improve midfield he bought kagawa and he did improve lb he got shot of fabio and bought butts.
so i would guess the manager thought we needed to improve up front with RVP improve creativity with kagawa and offer more competition and give evra a chance to play less games with buttner
jred

I disagree Jred, the manager wanted Baines but he was well overpriced and too be fair you can see why with his great performances so far this season. There was certain interest in Modric, but he did want RM so that never really took off, but there was interest in both of these players. RvP IMO was a massive coup for three reasons, 1) It's a statement to the Glazer bashers so to speak 2) Us getting him means City didn't and 3) It was a way of showing the EPL that we can buy another top four team's players just like City, we can compete. RvP was a massive coup and because he cost so much I think that is another reason why Baines didn't happen. I think Kagawa was a good option for three reasons. He was good for marketing and he was good due to his price-tag as well as being a very talented player.

Sydney!

Nice to see Charlie Nicolas and Co picking up on how poor Evra has become.

Sydney!

Syd
im not really sure how much we tried to sign baines to be honest.
and the same with modric i think fergy likes him as a player but im not sure we really made a move for him this summer or last, truth is im not sure modric fancied united
jred

Jred, I agree. Mods always wanted RM move once they became interested. United 'apparently' received two quotes for Baines and both were unrealistic so it never went any further. Baines did say he was surprised we never followed up our interest in him, so he must have been expecting a push for him at some stage. I think we ran out of cash after RvP and with us not selling Nani there was little cash left. I think the boss decided Buttner will have to do. But I wouldn't rule out Baines again next summer, it's like watching Evra back in 2007. Baines would be that experience added to the defence with players like Evra and Ferdinand coming to the end of their careers. I guess a lot depends on how Buttner develops. I agree with you that Fabio is unlikely to have a United career.

Sydney!

21 Sep 2012 14:50:27
okay, so I've tried to stay away from here since the game since way to many people have knee jerk reactions.

I've since re-watched the game this morning and I have a few opinions I would like to give.

1) Nani;

Okay, I'm not a Nani fan but he did seem to up his game a little, it looked as if he was really trying and in all fairness I'd rather have a committed player than not, regardless of the ability they show. I still want him out but just not as much as I previously did. I thought he created 2 clear cut chances and one half chance when he tried to play RVP in but put the ball several thousand miles behind him.

The penalty I'm not that bothered about, nobody jumped on Hernandez' or RVP's back when they both missed pens so I won't jump on Nani's back.

to sum up last night for him, I'd say yes he upped his game but we weren't against amazing opposition in terms of their defensive play. So with that said, I'd expect him to probably create 4 or 5 clear chances against smaller teams and create 1 or 2 against bigger sides. unfortunately that wasn't the case.

However, he does have a lot to put up with currently, we don't know whether he has strained relations with the club, about his personal life, etc. so, I'll support him while he's here but I really don't expect him to be here 12 months from now.

2) Evra;

It was still a relatively poor performance from him BUT he looked better than he's looked over the past year. anybody who was expecting him to play like Ashley Cole is mental. I thought he made a good few mistakes but he covered quite well at times and came close to scoring. Better performance but still not of the level required IMHO.

3) Scholes & Carrick;

So, so impressed with Carrick last night, the goal was top draw and I'm glad he stayed on his feet. his passing was very good. It also seemed as if he'd been told to play slightly more advanced and go for it a little more. Quite a few sideways passes as per usual but a lot more forward play from him.

Scholes on the other hand, not so impressive. I'm not going to jump on his back though, I'd struggle to play 1 game a month at his age at the level he plays at, so 2 games in a week, with 1 brilliant and one average game isn't such a big deal.

4) DDG;

Quite simply, he showed his class, took a good few crosses and the double save was very impressive, I have no doubt he's our number 1 and IMO is fast becoming one of the best 3 keepers in the league (Behind Cech & Friedal IMO). Great player who WILL go on to be a great.

5) Toni;

I love our fans, he has one 'ish' game with pretty much no forwards until Welbeck and Javier came on and all of you guys on here start calling for him to be dropped! brilliant. 1 poor game in how many, 50? 60? We're lucky if we see 1 good game in 50 or 60 from Nani!

Btw, I say we had no strikers because we didn't for a lot of that game, Nani was doing whatever the hell he wanted at first, we ended up playing like this in the first half;

________DDG_______
Raf_Evans_Vidic_Evra
___Carrick_Scholes__
Toni_______________
Nani____Kags____RVP
_________??_______

6) the Ref;

Honestly, only one game comes to mind when I think of a worse referring display and that was Chelsea V Barcelona in the UCL a few years ago...what on earth was he doing? the 5th official wasn't much help either. But there was atleast 3 stone wall pens and 2 debatable pens, so out of a total of 5, he gave 1!

That's pretty much all I wanted to say.

Oh, and to those going to the game on Sunday, PLEASE behave yourself, we're all proud of our club now lets give the club a reason to be proud of us.

all the best and have a great weekend.

The Moon.

Top post Moon, and I agree entirely about the knee jerk reactions.

AJH

21 Sep 2012 13:16:28
Gan?
Your deluded! Piqué left because he was homesick and saf revealed it was a call from the players mother that persuaded him to part with pique.
Evans is a good cb, your grammar and the way you put (one little dribble) is pathetic.

So do us a favour and stop portraying yourself as high and mighty!
Q"""
dear mr q
ngiak wonders what you call a person who describes another as high and mighty and puts that person down with rude unsubstantiated remarks?
hmmm ngiak is at a loss... hypocrite... crude... juvenile... hmm total loss for words
as for Evans... he belongs to the championship
IF and that's a big if... you were a fan before that last game
you would have at least seen most or his games
safe to say between Evans and evra and maybe Rafael
they must have made more mistakes than all other premiership defenders
he is so poor in all aspects of the game that there are at least 25 centrebacks better than him in the premiership
want a list? well watch more games first...
gan

Gan - no offence mate, but Evans has been, bar his lapse against City, one of our most consistent, solid performers, and I don't hink it's any coincidence that he plays his first full match of the season in our first clean sheet.

StevieK

If you don't agree with Gan it's fine, but there is no need for these replies, Q your reply makes you sound like a right up bully. We are all United fans there is no need to fight each other.

-JakeW

You obviously never read the the first post further down the page jakew,
I'm not a bully in fact I'm trying to stop this guy having a go and making his ideas the only ones people listen too! Read the original post and this guy generally thinks he is SIR ALEX.
Maybe I went a tad far in my earlier post and for that I apologise! But Evans isn't that bad!
Q {Ed007's Note - Your reply has been deleted. This forum is to discuss Man Utd/football. It is not a place for childish personal attacks on other posters. If you don't agree with others tell them why, everyone is entitled to an opinion without putting the t*t in entitled.}

JakeW, well said. But...Gan does make it hard to be constructive some times!

AJH

21 Sep 2012 09:53:15
Okay boys & girls, I know we've not even hit January yet but here's some questions that will need answering in the summer or even a sale or purchase in the winter window.

1) Who will end up our number 1 this season?
2) how long will the number 2 keeper be happy sat on the bench until he decides to leave for first team football?
3) Anderson's last chance saloon, he's not even on the bench now (Powell & Fletcher have pushed him back & I'm sure Tunnicliffe & Petrucci will get ahead of him soon) will he be sold in jan or may & for what & to whom?
4) How long has Giggs got in his locker?
5) Will Scholes hang up his boots if we ACTUALLY buy a top class midfielder.
6) Will Sir Alex bring in a No.2 like Solksjær, Pep, Giggs, Cantona, Blanc ect... next year to learn the ropes for his retirement? (he said he will be choosing the next Manager)
7) Will Sir Alex leave if he wins a major trophy this season?
8) Will Rio sign a 50% cut contract at United or have a big payout in the USA next season?
9) Will Nani be sold & replaced by a left footed winger?
10) Where will our usual 60m be spent in august 2013?

10 Questions for you.

Let the banter begin...............

1) De Gea
2) Lindegaard will not leave, I can still see him getting a lot of games.
3) Anderson will be gone soon.
4) End of the season
5) I can't see a midfielder coming in if SAF still has Scholes
6) I can see someone becoming the No.2 by next season
7) Maybe if we won the league and Champions league, highly unlikely.
8) Yes, he has expressed how much he loves this club and wants to play until he is 40
9) Hopefully not, Nani to stay, Young to leave and a new winger to replace Young.
10) A new defender, winger and hopefully a midfielder.

-JakeW

1) There will be no number 1, De Gea should be but Fergie seems intent on punishing him for every mistake.
2) De Gea, will eventually get fed up with Fergie's treatment of him and move to one of Spain's big two. It won't happen this year.
3) Anderson hasn't been sold because nobody wants him, and who could blame them.
4) He doesn't. He is not good enough to play cm and no longer quick enough to play on the wing. He should be allowed retire like the legend he is rather than having a few cameos against weaker sides.
5) Scholes did hang up his boots, we didn't sign anyone so Fergie begged him to put them back on.
6) Fergie seems happy enough with his current yes man, any future number one's authority would be compromised if he had to spend the year as an assistant.
7) Fergie will leave within the next two years irrespective of trophies.
8) Has he been offered this contract?
9) Nani will be sold regardless of the replacement. Moura is clearly right-footed.
10) 60m? Closer to 40m this season, closer to 50m last. But obviously we need strikers and centre backs, and a creative player in the hole. What's a central midfielder?

Danny Pughnited

1) De Gea will be our number one sometime in the near future. Be it by the end of the season or by the start of next. He will be put on a bulking up program to make him stronger and therefore more able to deal with set pieces. As soon as he does that he is a much better goalkeeper then Lindegaard and will undoubtably be our number 1.
2) Don't see Lindegaard being to happy with number two, will probably stay for a season or two when DDG takes number one but then leave for 1st team football.
3) Anderson will get his chance to impress in the FA/Carling cup, if he impresses he will get a chance if he doesn't take it he'll go back to portugal or maybe even back to Brazil for a small fee.
4) SAF thinks he can go for another season or two! Not so sure myself but can't imagine United without him.
5) I think this is Scholes' last season, it's not a case of will we replace him, it's we have to.
6) No idea.
7) I get the feeling he would like one more champions league.
8) Rio will take the contract.
9) All the signs point to him being sold, it will be for another flair type player, left or right footed, who knows.
10) Our usual 60m? We have only spent that once in the last 10 years!

Red Joe

1) De Gea, hes technically more gifted and has a brighter future

2) I think Lindergaard will sit on the bench he was aware of that when he signed that he was signed as a number 2

3) I dont think we will sell anderson in Jan i think if he does go it will be next summer for about 8-10m i can see him going back to portugal where he still has a good name for himself

4)Giggs will retire at the end of this season along with scholes i think

5) I think he will retire when he wants which will more than likely be the end of the season

6) I hope he does but i cant see it happening

7) Definitely not

8) I can see Rio in the US next year, bright lights and lots of money, he's always been a sucker for the limelight

9) Nani will be sold asap but his replacement may not be a winger as i think we're trying to get away from the wing play and have players who are more of a number 10 type player (Lucas, Neymar, Hazard...)

10) If we don't bring in a CM next year i will be extremely disappointed my favorites are Ozil, Cabaye, Schweinsteiger, Dembele, Sandro, Moutinho, Marchiso... I'm not saying we will get any of those but they are the players i'd most like to see brought in.

Great post by the way.


Anon

Lindegaard and De Gea will alternate. Both will get plenty of games. Anderson can make it here, but I fear he may no longer get the chance, hopefully Sandro or Fellaini will replace him. Giggs and Scholes will both retire at the end of the year. If SAF wins the CL then he will retire I'm sure, he'll want to go out on top. Rio will stay, he won't have a 50% pay cut. Nani is likely to go, Isco to replace him.

For this year I'd say Isco, Ogbonna, Sandro/Fellaini and perhaps Eriksen in with Nani, Anderson, Giggs, Scholes and maybe Evra to all leave.

Fresh!

1. DDG
2. Our no.2 isn't the best keeper in the world and would be happy to play the no of games that come his way.
3. No
4. According to Giggs himself, he has atleast 1 more season after this.
5. No
6. No, apparently he doesn't believe in drastic changes in the staff or playing style and to be clear I have no problem with that.
7. No
9. No
10. Making the Glazers life more comfortable.
11. I left the no.8 point cause that is a stupid question/hypothetical situation.

SHAITAN

1) DDG
2) Lindegaard will stay but might even be pushed by Amos & Johnstone.
3) Anderson will be sold if we can find a buyer or a swap player situation.
(Ando plus £ for Moutinho or J.Rodriguez)
4) Giggs is happy to sit on the bench. He's in good shape & the youth will learn from him. 1 more season.
5) Scholes will wave goodbye & coach.
6) Fergie wants this & next season. An old United friend might be bought in Nev, Solksjær as a No.2 but not to take over. To stay as No.2 for the new Fergie hand picks.
7) No, if he wins one he'll want to win the other next season. More Euro's he wants.
8) if Rio realises he'll could be 2nd fiddle to either Evans, Smalling or Jones maybe. I think he will stay one more season. Him & Giggs.
9) Nani will be sold if he doesn't sign. If he does maybe Young will get the chop.
10) ins & outs if it was this easy.
CB Ogbonna 16m could see Rio 6m leave.
CM Eriksen 18m could see Ando 8m leave.
LAM Isco 18m could see Nani 20m leave.
Nani could be on his last yr remember.

1. DDG
2. Lindegaard knows that he has been brought in as No. 2 but he has tasted what No. 1 feels like and I don't think he is content to go back to No. 2, especially at his age. I see us bringing in an experience keeper next season to help guide DDG.
3. Not Jan - SAF has not been giving the young guns any time on the pitch and so he still needs Ando for back up. I could see him leaving during the Summer.
4. End of season - like Danny said, he needs to go out a legend on top.
5. Probably - should stay on as coach, advisory role.
6. I hope so but I doubt it.
7. If League or Champions then yes, but only if they have someone (like Pep) lined up.
8. Rio goes to the states.
9. Depends on whether or not he finds consistent form this season. But even if he does, that could lead to his value increasing - I would definitely think about selling him at that point.
10. Nope.

B

1: DDG - even though SAF publicly criticised him, which SAF rarely does to his players.
2: 2 more years, at which point DDG will be either be making noises about going to Real/Barca or be happy with us. So he will leave because DDG signs a new contract, or DDG will be sold and he will become #1.
3: Next summer if SAF stays. I can see a swap plus cash deal depending on who SAF is looking at.
4: Giggs has already used everything in his locker. It is a sad sight now to watch a true legend's demise.
5: If he doesn't see answer to #4.
6: No. this will not happen.
7: No because we will not win a major trophy.
8: Depends on SAF staying or not. If SAF stays so will Rio.
9: Yes, he will be sold and no, he will not be replaced.
10: It won't be spent on a midfielder if SAF has anything to do with it.

Next time leave a name and your own answers.

J Bones.

I wrote the banter & now my answers are the 7th down on the list. I'll always leave my Mark from now on.

P.s some good messages of support on here for the Hillsborough tragedy.

There is far too much anger & violence in the world we don't need it in football over petty football chants. I hope we win 0-1 ( cause I've a bet on it) most importantly I hope it all goes very well on the pitch, in the dugout & in the stands. This an important game where the us, the fans, the 12th man will be counted upon. DON'T let a wonderful Club down.

TJ.

21 Sep 2012 08:14:00
How about this for Sunday.

---------Linders-
Rafa--Evans--Vida--Evra-
---------Carrick-
----Scholes--Clevs-
Toni--------------Butts-
----------RVP-

Would give us options off the bench in Rooney, (hopefully), Nani, Kagawa, Welbeck, Chicho and give added cover to Evra in the LB slot.

It would also give us a natural left footed left side which would work to our advantage then later on in the game we can sacrifice a CMer for Kags or Rooney and try to over run them.

Thats how I would do it.

Jono

I think Scholes starting against Gala was a good indication that he will not start on Sunday. I think his tiresome performance has made sure of it. I wouldn't mind seeing Buttner there, but would need either Rooney or Kagawa in the hole. So if I was to alter it slightly I would swap Scholes for Cabaye, oops I meant Kagawa and play a 4-2-3-1 ;)

Sydney!

Didn't know that Buttner had been transformed in one match, from an unknown left back into a great winger - For SAF's next act he will turn water into wine!

my team would be

.................DDG...

Rafa.....Evans....Vidic....Evra

.......Carrick.......Cleverly...

Toni.........Kagawa.....Nani...

................RVP..

Mike

Im not to sure we can afford to go with 2 in the middle against a fired up pool with nothing to lose. I certainly don't want Ando anywhere near there!

As I said that above line up to contain them and try and control possession letting them burn themselves out huffing and puffing against our more solid and compact team then when tired our subs and tactical change to 2 in CM for instance Scholes off for Kags and Butts for Rooney should be more than enough to get us a win.

I'm not happy about starting off more defensive but we all know how they raise their game ten fold against us and we could nip that in the bud and hit them hard later on.

I know I wouldn't care if we played well defensively and controlled the game then burst out attacking for the last 30 to win.

I do believe however that my plan consists of too many changes from the norm to ever be considered by fergie but oh well I think it would work.

Jono

I would have far more confidence if we did have Cabaye, I think he is an alright player ;-).

Jono

21 Sep 2012 00:33:01
Not many at United v Bury tonight. 200 odd I think the announcer said.

I know people are interested so here goes.

Johnstone played well with a great save to prevent us going 2-0 down.
M.Keane was a fault for the Bury goal early on.
Wootton & Keane didn't really have to do much to be fair.
Vermijl & Blackett had a free licence to roam forward.
Brady had some great play with Vermijl down the right.
Lingard looked lost on the left till he switched with Macheda.
Petrucci ran the game in the 2nd half but missed a pen & should of scored a tap in.
Tunnicliffe's energy is his asset. Up & down all night.
Macheda showed good foot work to win the pen, scored the last goal but didn't do a lot else.
King ran his socks off. Pace, power but lacks in shot accuracy. If u could merge King & Kiko as one player u would have one mean striker.

Møller Dealhi was sat with his parents middle stand back row. I was chatting to him about his progression this season. He told me to try & get established in the reserves (under21's). Seems a nice lad. He even laughed when he saw Liverpool were drawing on my I-phone.

I must say it's nice that u can approach players at Moss Lane.

Anyone know why Henríquez was not included...?

is he training with the 1st's at the mo?

20 Sep 2012 23:56:31
People need to stop insulting nani, he actually hit many good and creative passes to the likes of hernandez and kagawa. Although this penalty problem is a disgrace, i do think it should be van persie he deserves to be forgiven for his pirlo

Rooney and RVP should be hands down the two penalty takers no questions asked then maybe Carrick, Valencia and Scholes as they all hit the ball cleanly just look at Lampard he picks a spot and smashes it we have plenty of players that are capable but they all try to do the harder option or over think things instead of getting the basics right first.