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22 Apr 2015 22:11:55
Just watched the Real Madrid game,what a bunch of cheaters and divers,a big strong man like Ramos rolling round looking for frees and a few more of his team mates at it.its ruining football,just hope this isn't the future of football,co think the manager needs to correct his players not praise them.
22 Apr 2015 21:21:51
Hello Ed002, you mentioned you'd see someone who'd know about Hummels this evening. Any update? Cheers
{Ed002's Note - RTP.}
23 Apr 2015 14:40:56
Read the posts, can't see an update about the person you said you'd be seeing, Ed.
{Ed007's Note - Check the rumours page, I seen it myself earlier.}
22 Apr 2015 20:03:25
If de gea does leave do you think we would another younger goalkeeper? If so, would we look at Stefanos Kapino, made some strides in recent years?
22 Apr 2015 20:30:41
Is he Belgian?
23 Apr 2015 08:45:46
How about Jean-Marie Pfaff, very good goalkeeper.
23 Apr 2015 09:32:07
have we looked at Tintin or Poirot? I know van Gaal likes intelligent players, and these two tick all the boxes.
23 Apr 2015 10:53:49
If we want someone who is making big strides maybe King Kong would be a good shout.
23 Apr 2015 13:58:07
you're all buggers sometimes you know that! ;o) xxx.
23 Apr 2015 17:07:05
He isn't bad at Mainz, but haven't seen enough of him to have a strong opinion.
22 Apr 2015 19:11:43
What is realistically needed for the squad to challenge for the title next season and establish ourselves in the Champions League once again??
It's coming to the stage of the season where our beloved United are linked with virtually every player.
What do you see for us this summer? There will be people departing and obviously a few additions to our squad but where exactly do you feel we need to strengthen??
I would love David De Gea to sign a new contract and stay for a good few years yet but will the pull of Madrid be too much. If this is the case then for me we need to use De Gea as a bargaining tool for Bale.
I would prefer De Gea to stay as he shown just how fantastic a keeper he is over the last 2 seasons. For us to challenge on all fronts we need a TOP CLASS KEEPER and for me who out there is better?? Nobody for me.
With Valdes in reserve we stand in good stead for keepers if De Gea stays.
RB for me is a place that we certainly need to look at as LVG does not have faith in Rafa and although Valencia is doing a job, we need to be looking at this position. Dani Alves is not the player I would want to walk through the doors in the summer. NO SELL ON VALUE, LIABILTY DEFENSIVELY and can be a loose cannon. The talk of Clyne seems to be getting stronger by the week and I would like to see this happen. Young, talented and English. Out of contract soon and I think Chicharito could be used as a make weight in this deal.
CB is a must. I think its the end of the road for Evans at the club now. With Smalling signing a new deal and Jones starting to establish himself, I think Evans will go. McNair and Blackett are in the wings and learning and LVG clearly likes them and we also have Rojo who can be used in other positions.
Hummels, Laporte or Varane for me to come in.
I like the look of our LB position with Blind and Shaw and this does not need altering.
Well what do you think???
HOw about our midfield and striking options.
Have your say!!!!
22 Apr 2015 19:56:04
Think what you've said is spot on, in midfield I'd like to see someone like veratti or Gundogan to come in, although I don't know how likely either of those would be. Depay looks like he could be on his way which would be a brilliant signing. Not sure about a striker though, looks like falcao won't be staying, and if we continue to play a 4-3-3 we only need one of Rooney Wilson and rvp, so adding another player to the squad might damage Wilson's development.
22 Apr 2015 22:25:08
Agree with what you've said. I think another right back is necessary as Rafael looks like he'll be moved on. Another center midfielder that can add some physicality and tenaciousness. If De Gea ends up leaving then another keeper to challenge Valdes for the number 1 shirt. An experienced center back to compete with smalling, jones, rojo, McNair, and Blackett. and potentially a promising wide/attacking player such as Depay. I don't see the striking department as needing much improvement, as hopefully Wilson gets more game time next season. Perhaps a low profile young striker to be brought in for depth. If LVG manages to make solid signings in this areas while also getting rid of the likes of Cleverly, Nani, Chicharito, Evans, and unfortunately Rafael, then I would consider it an incredibly productive transfer window.
22 Apr 2015 14:33:55
Afternoon guys,
Will try to start a bit of a debate.
I think most of us are pretty set on Hummels as the centre back we need, Clyne is a good option for right back. Most of us want Depay also.
But the two positions that are left that we could talk for days about are the central midfield role and the striker.
Who would you guys like to see come in to fill those positions (apart from Pogba who we have been told time and time again won't be joining). I think Gundogan may be a good move if he is fit and also Jackson Martinez as he is excellent value. Wouldn't say no to Vidal or Cavani either.
22 Apr 2015 15:04:00
Cavani and Martinez are no midfielders . Gundogan is past his best and if Vidal comes he will challenge with Fellaini and Herrera for two spots .
People always shout about midfielders we need but should know that we are in need of deep lying midfielders . Not attacking midfielders . I don't really think there are any top class deep midfielders available in the market but I would love to have Kroos (can't happen though ) or verratti (same ) or Schneiderlin(very possible ) . Gabi from Athletico also is a good shout .Just need some top player to fill in Carrick boots
22 Apr 2015 15:13:08
I suppose Pogba would be the best candidate for the position, but I can't see that one happening.
22 Apr 2015 15:13:48
I'd go with Carvalho and Muller plus Ings on a compensation package.
22 Apr 2015 15:19:57
Think Vidal could be a good option, he could play in Fellaini or Herrera's place depending on roation, injuries etc. Carrick and Blind to cover the holding midfield spot until next summer when we replace Carrick.
Up front, don't think we need much if we get Depay. I would either keep RvP as backup along with Wilson. If RvP goes I'd go for Ings.
22 Apr 2015 15:25:13
Vidal/Gundogan and Ings.
I don't rate Cavani or Martinez, especially at the price and wages they would cost. In Ings we get a good young backup striker (which is what we need considering we play with just one striker), already settled in the EPL and he won't cost much.
Gundogan could be a really shrewd signing actually considering his contract situation he would cost very less, but I would rather prioritize Vidal since he is exactly the kind of box to box player we need.
An outside shout for Naingolan.
22 Apr 2015 15:29:30
schneiderlin is probably the best cm in the EPl and would be a realistic buy imo.
dont think we need a big name striker to be honest
and also what has valencia done wrong at rb for the last couple of month
22 Apr 2015 15:48:53
We already have 4 midfielders in our squad.
Herrera is the kind of hard-working box to box player.
Fellaini is the hard working tall midfielder who could mark big players out.
Blind and Carrick are extremely similar and rarely go running into the box for scoring goals. They sit deep and dictate play.
De Jong is player I would love us to sign. Free, experienced in PL, dutch, is a good passer of the ball, and a very solid defensive midfielder. We would genuinely need someone like him in the european games and the big PL games. Would add a lot of bite to the midfield. Also would not hinder the development of players like Ben Pearson who if he plays this way is not far away from our team.
I'm torn between the choice of Gundogan and Vidal. Both would be excellent additions to the squad, and both would perform very different roles. The player we sign would depend on which type of game we want to play. Vidal is more of a runner, and Gundogan a passer.
22 Apr 2015 16:01:00
Jred
Valencia can't cross and you want a right back that can put in a decent cross.
Fresh
Pogba is not holding midfielder and if we are looking for someone along those lines, Verrati is the best that is out there.
22 Apr 2015 16:44:47
I think we need a good all round midfielder who can cover several roles within the team. Schneiderlin Vidal or Xhaka would be my choices for midfield.
As for the striker role I think we need a good solid back up striker rather than a first choice big name striker such as Cavani or Lewandowski although if we were to sign a big name top striker I wouldn't complain. lol.
The options I would look at are Mario Mandzukic, Danny Ings or Enner Valencia is a name I've not seen mentioned who I think could do an excellent job.
22 Apr 2015 16:50:01
Jred
Schnedeirlin good shout, strange we have not been linked to him
Valencia, is his final ball as good as we should be aiming for? I don't think so although his overall game has improved lately and he has become a more than useful member of the squad. Would like a younger, more natural RB
22 Apr 2015 16:50:45
I do hope we have the liberty of naming players that we might never get. For the deep lying midfielder's role, I would rather have Oliver Torres. I also think Marek Hamsik is one of the best box to box midfielders in the planet. We don't need any strikers - Rooney, Persie and Wilson would do.
Deeps.
22 Apr 2015 17:00:57
In midfield obviously everyone would love Pogba and I still have hopes that we will sign him. There are only a few options that we would actually benefit from signing. Those players would be Vidal, pjanic, koke, schneiderlin, matuidi and wijnaldum. Yes they are all different types of player but we don't necessarily need to sign an exact swap to replace carrick in midfield. Just a great player.
The striker I would go for would be Dybala, icardi or Ings. Not a first team striker straight away because I hope we play with 433 still
22 Apr 2015 17:05:38
Martinez is good but he's hardly good value when you take into account the amount Porto are asking (36-40m euros i think).
Striker wise I don't want Cavani, I'd rather have Rooney and Wilson being given more game time with RvP as back up. Midfielder I'd agree with others and think we could get lucky with Vidal and Gundogan as they could be less expensive than previously stated due to injuries etc. I reckon they could both return back to a level that would greatly improve our team. Verratti would be my ideal choice for a deep lying midfielder to replace Carrick. But as that seems very unlikely Schneiderlin would be more realistic.
22 Apr 2015 17:25:59
Don't see RVP as back up , he's not going to be happy and that's likely to lead to trouble in the camp
22 Apr 2015 17:51:58
Id be happy with koke vidal or pogba
martinez upfront or dybala
22 Apr 2015 18:18:49
Schneiderlin is an excellent shout for the holding midfield role. I must admit I hadn't really considered him. We are consistently linked with Gundogan and he is stalling on a contract still apparently. He and Hummels in a £50 million joint move wouldn't surprise me at all. If Rooney is to play as the main man then we should perhaps be looking at Benteke as a different sort of option.
22 Apr 2015 18:27:43
Veratti abs Depay for me
22 Apr 2015 19:00:45
deeps
hamsik would be a great signing , i'm a big fan
22 Apr 2015 19:07:24
I also like witzel and Nianggolan (spelling?). either would be baby eating, ball playing additions.
22 Apr 2015 20:33:20
Moutinho would also be a very good signing. Great distribution.
22 Apr 2015 20:38:40
We have Blind to cover Carrick for next year.for me we need a Vidal. He would be a great driving player for the team.
Realistically Ings work's for me. helps balance the books and could be great over the next few years.
23 Apr 2015 02:07:50
How i see our transfer needs panning out are as follows:
GK - If De Gea stays then we don't need a thing. If he leaves maybe Begovic, Forster, or Navas.
RB - Clyne seems nailed on but Danillo from Porto seems a decent player.
CB - Hummels again seems nailed on but alternatives coulb be Kjaar, Marquinhos, Miranda, or Thiago Silva (I've heard a few odd rumours about his displeasure at psg).
CM- Personally I only see 4 midfielders in our squad who can play centrally in the 433 we have used lately. With those being Carrick, Blind, Fellaini, and Herrera.
Yes a more experienced and more technical player such as schneiderlin to cover carrick would be great but blind is a superb reserve and would start for most epl teams in that position.
Fellaini and Herrera have both been amazing for us over the last few months and would be very difficult to dislodge from our set up, however i would still try to purchase 2 of Gundongan, Vidal, Koke, Illaremendi, moutinho and Veratti. This would give us an amazing amount of depth and quality.
WM/WF - Depay looks nailed on but if De Gea leaves then as others have suggested Bale may be persuaded to be part of the deal.
ST- I see RVP leaving this summer and maybe falcao staying. i would add Ings and maybe Kane to the list of maybes coming in. I do see how both of those strikers are complete opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of cost but i feel they are the right age and quality we will be looking for in our back up striker.
biggest surprise for us this summer is that could Klopp be coming to us? who knows but silly season is almost upon us so anything could happen
22 Apr 2015 20:11:05
True Jred, I always wondered how clubs did not have any significant interest in him all this while. May well be that he is a one club boy. ed 002, i know this might not be the right place to ask, but I have never found a write up on any interest surrounding Hamsik. Sorry to bother you of course.
Deeps.
{Ed002's Note - If Hamsik were to move then the EPL might well be an option. But for now that does not look like the case particularly given his issues with Benitez are seemingly over and Benitez will be gone in a month or so.}
23 Apr 2015 14:39:06
Schneiderlin's a great shout but I would personally prefer his team mate Wanyama. If we were going for someone like Bale(long shot I know) then Khedira on a free is a good option.
Lewandowski would be great but where would that leave Rooney? Ings on a free also a good option.
Preference - Wanyama and Lewandowski.
Dependant on other signings Khedira/Ings.
22 Apr 2015 14:07:35
A big shout out to Giggsy, Butt, Scholesy and the Nevilles on the promotion of Salford City. Also FC United making the step up in divison is quite a feat. Well done lads!
22 Apr 2015 15:00:58
to think fc united will play in the same league as Stockport county what they have achieved in the 10 years is remarkable.
and they always get good crowds turning up each week
22 Apr 2015 19:08:59
Oh and Andre Gomes & kondogbia if they've not already been mentioned.
22 Apr 2015 20:10:34
Not sure they helped out much at Salford, supasub 😆
22 Apr 2015 22:51:15
Erm no they didn't. Just checking to see if you were on your toes badger.
22 Apr 2015 04:25:09
It feels like it's been only a month that we got beat by swansea at our first match of the season, We now only have 5 games left. How fast does time travel.
LVG as a stupid, made announcement that it would take 3 months for players to understand his philosophy and we will see the result then . We lost first match against Swansea which was really a big pain to us considering how good we were in pre-season .Honestly i expected to hammer them. He watched all the players carefully and then the work started at old trafford . Several of our players left and several were signed too . He did a great job on getting rid of deadwoods which was the one i was happy about (expect welbz one ) and indeed signed good players we were crying for .
Next . We played the first 4 games as if our players were alien to each other and our defence was becoming more fragile . Especially, after the horrendous leicester show, We saw little tweaks in the system because this team was letting too many chances in . Those tweaks originated the defence and we were a bit better in defending field but then again our attacking became poor. We did not concede much goals but were not scoring too. Concentrating on both attacking and defending areas and creating balance between them proved a difficult task for LVG but yet he did it. It did took much longer than he expected but it is better late then never .Until then, Man Utd were a regular topic for abuse by media and pundits but thank god LVG was arrogant and handled the media pretty well. And now we are finally seeing good football from our players because LVG has instilled belief in all those players and every players know well about their role . Valencia knows where mata and herrera will be and where he should run when herrera has the ball . He even knows where herrera shall pass the ball after he receives ball from mata which was passed to mata by himself . Similar goes to blind, young and fellaini . Smalling has improved tremendously and if he can play at the same level without injury along with a top CB, he will certainly be called a top class CB . Rooney is playing great at top and we can expect goals everytime he plays .Further our team has started to dominate every game, passing has been crisper leading to attack and goals are coming. Last year it really gave me scare whenever we face a big team but this year we were the one they should fear.
So I don't know what people understand from this but what i meant to say was that we finally have our man. No matter if there is pep, klopp or ancelotti availaible, if we have our man then why should we look at another . For me he has done a great job until now and deserves to be given all three years of his contracts and i think we will have a good run on CL as well.He did return our old team and did it step wise step as a good manager would do and i am sure there will be more improvements and good results will follow .
GGMU
22 Apr 2015 08:14:06
Good summation Srestha. My only point of debate would be that he hasn't done a great job so far as far as I'm concerned. He has done ok with all things considered.
I do agree that things seem a lot brighter now, despite not creating anything of substance last week. I am confident the fear factor is finally returning and with some better signings and quicker integration we should be back where we belong next season.
Big problem for me will be how we handle Europe and the League, as LVG will need to integrate new players and won't have enough time on the training ground. He obviously doesn't like to coach as the game is being played, so I'm not totally confident he is the right man yet, there is a lot more for him to prove for me.
22 Apr 2015 08:46:34
Good post Srestha.
Beast, not sure it can be a 'big problem' when we're not even in Europe yet and haven't given the manager a chance on that stage. You love to see the worst in him but its pure speculation as usual.
22 Apr 2015 08:56:43
May be LVG still has some work to do Beast ! Hopefully that will erase your doubt . This summer is going to be his second and now he clearly knows which area he needs to strengthen and I think we will have very good transfer window with quality of players coming in .
And i don't see a problem with LVG handling Europe and the League . He is no alien for all those stuff and has been doing such things for long duration . He will definitely buy some top class players and this time it won't take long for the new players to gel because the philosophy already has the grip all over the team . I do feel that he is the right man and and we must just wait and see how we develop over the time
22 Apr 2015 08:58:00
p.s Beast ! I think he will have enough time to gel new recruits with the team as in my opinion all transfers will be sorted out pretty soon
22 Apr 2015 09:17:22
Hopefully you are both right.
HoneyBadger - I am basing it on how slow the current crop of players were to learn his methods, also the fact that we will have more games to play, (both facts). So new players will need time to learn and will arguably have less one-on-one time to learn. Hence my concerns that we could see a lot of the same tinkering and square pegging if he doesn't prepare properly.
No World Cup will help of course and he will also have a lot of the players helping him next season as they know what he expects. It is a legitimate concern but one which he should overcome.
22 Apr 2015 09:58:19
Beast,
Surely that can also be turned the other way round, is having more games not a positive if the players are learning? Earlier this season you said not having Europe was an issue because there a less games to get to know each other, now having Europe is going to be an issue, make your mind up!
22 Apr 2015 09:27:52
Beast,
You aren't confident in van Gaal because of something he has had no chance to prove yet and has coped well with at others clubs? Well I never!
22 Apr 2015 09:35:39
Beast ! This season all the players were to learn his methods but next season only few will be there . Since Players also know his philosophy , new recruits will be helped by the current crop of players to so i don't see a reason to panic so take a breath Beast. Just Chill :)
22 Apr 2015 09:36:42
I think your summary is pretty decent although like Beast I cannot just forget the entire first half of the season so I will have my reservations going into the next one but I am a willing fan and I live in hope that LVG has done his homework and we will be back to our brilliant best and challenging on all fronts this time next year.
In regards to the possibility of a new manager coming in then yes I would be in favour of change only if that manager is and was the man we both earmarked before and after the LVG regime. If that man is available now then surely, in my opinion, it would be worth cashing in on our chips. It's like your going to buy a new car and you've got the one you want in mind but then when you get to the show room that one is unavailable so you test drive something else and it was pleasant. You then go back next week to buy that car but are told the one you really wanted is now available. Go figure.
22 Apr 2015 09:44:00
And who is to say his style of football would not be more suited to European competition?
I'd say his style would be.
22 Apr 2015 10:00:03
I understand your concern beast and as you say hopefully we can overcome them. Any new player may need to adapt but the current squad now knows what LvG expects from them and a full pre season should help towards integrating the newbies ready for the season.
22 Apr 2015 09:27:52
Beast,
You aren't confident in van Gaal because of something he has had no chance to prove yet and has coped well with at others clubs? Well I never!
22 Apr 2015 09:35:39
Beast ! This season all the players were to learn his methods but next season only few will be there . Since Players also know his philosophy , new recruits will be helped by the current crop of players to so i don't see a reason to panic so take a breath Beast. Just Chill :)
22 Apr 2015 09:44:00
And who is to say his style of football would not be more suited to European competition?
I'd say his style would be.
22 Apr 2015 12:17:24
JMB !
To reply to your post in your own language . What if the car which u picked to buy due to first choice being unavailable is pretty decent and is giving you very good result of your investment ? It has not fulfilled all your expectation but yet is giving the most things you want ?? Also it is possible that the first choice car you have may not succeed under the different climate of england as your second choice has succeeded. Go figure
22 Apr 2015 13:17:40
Srestha sorry I do not really understand what you are trying to say with your metaphor.
22 Apr 2015 13:26:07
Stretha, I think this is a very good and balanced post.
Beast, so getting us into a fight for 2nd place and playing good football and dominating possession stats in every game is not good enough? Coupled with that, 50 odd injuries in the first 3 months of the season. Couple with LVG coming into a totally new league and 6 new players been signed, 5 of whom are from abroad.
And you wanted him to do WHAT EXACTLY? What could he have improved on? Have you any idea how difficult it is for people to settle in new jobs, new countries, new culture?
You wanted them all to come in and start winning the title??!!
Did Fergie not take 3 years to settle?
We had a team that was unbalanced and still is now, this still needs to be addressed this summer, it really makes no sense at all to be critisizing the manager when you know deep down that he has done an extremely good job.
22 Apr 2015 13:53:11
JMB ! My bad mate !
Let's try it this way .
If the car you just test drove was pleasant(say car LVG) then why would you choose the first one (the one you had on your mind,say car Pep) . It is possible that the car Pep may not be pleasant as LVG,, and it is also possible that Pep car may not run smoothly on the roads of your hometown . If car LVG is pleasant to drive and is working smoothly on you hometown then it is better to stay with it rather than taking risk on Pep
22 Apr 2015 13:55:13
Nomidfield !
Exactly mate. I am trying to explain same thing . It took time for LVG to settle and it is of no surprise. I don't think anyone can come and instantly make us title contenders. At least he is giving us good games now so why to scratch old wound and bring up old games? We should just stick with LVG and see how more we develop
22 Apr 2015 15:03:31
how anyone can say we should change manager is beyond me.
22 Apr 2015 15:15:44
Same here, spb.
I think the manager will be here for more than three years.
22 Apr 2015 15:34:28
What you say makes sense to me Srestha, don't worry!
1. There is no guarantee that a manager who was first pick over LvG at the time would do any better.
2. Bringing in a new manager will bring about yet more upheval.
3. LvG was given the job, is going well and has us going in the right direction, why risk changing Tha when there are no guarantees?
All seems pretty straight forward to me.
22 Apr 2015 16:05:32
Before we start celebrating this seasons achievement, we have a tricky fixtures at Everton this weekend and couple of tricky fixtures away at Palace and Hull. I would feel a lot better if we beat Everton this weekend.
We have not performed well every time Carrick has been out as Rooney in midfield for me is pointless.
Looks like carrick will also miss the Everton game.
22 Apr 2015 16:42:28
I think LVG has done a very good job, we can sit here and talk about the first half of the season all we want, criticise his selection whatever you want. But one thing is for sure, everything takes time, LVG obviously has a long term plan that he is trying to implement, Iregardless of how much money he spent or the players he already had at his disposal it takes time to get them to play the way he wants. And at that it has only taken him half a season, it took Fergie years and he repaid our faith with bucket loads of trophies. Nobody on this site is privy to how LVG runs the team but all you have to do is look at his record, it speaks for itself.
Nobody is sure how long LVG is going to stick around but he has us dominating games, creating chances, players finally gelling and genuine optimism that helped most of us to forget last seasons capitulation.
I think we are in for one hell of a season next year, and we will do well in Europe because the way we set up now is tailor made, add in a couple of signings that are needed and we will end up with at least one trophy next year
22 Apr 2015 17:16:01
JMB you know exactly what Srestha was saying with that reply! Just acting like you don't because you realised it made your post seem a bit daft.
But yeah, given the chance we should definitely change manager because I think our club thrives on change, David Moyes agrees with me.
22 Apr 2015 19:14:13
Let me quote a great man named Sir Alex Ferguson on this issue. "Sometimes you look at a cow in another field and think that its better than the one that you already have. But it doesn't quite work out that way."
22 Apr 2015 20:46:00
Ozwald I didn't actually think what Srestha said made a lot of sense but I would still maintain my postion on the manager. If he stays great, if the better option for all parties is available then great. I'm a not naive enough to the fact that the game changes every five minutes and loyalty is thing of the past. No need to get snappy mate.