Manchester United Banter Archive July 22 2014

 

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22 Jul 2014 22:47:40
Real Madrid really must have the best 7-11 in the world. Ronaldo, Kroos, Benzema, James and Bale. They really are some team.

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I'd say they were an excellent group of players, we'll see what they're like as a team in the coming season.

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Neymar, Messi, Suarez, Iniesta, Pedro and Reus can't be too far behind. I suppose if RM replace Benzema with Falcao though it would be hard to make that argument.

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When did Reus move to Barcelona?

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23 Jul 2014 07:37:24
Both these Spanish Giants starting 11 are incredible.

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23 Jul 2014 09:33:29
Mouth watering attacking talent going forward: but big egos still have to gel together - and will they track back? Defend midfield? Will they leave defence exposed? A well drilled, organised and motivated team (with several outstanding individuals) can still getva result against more star studded teams with the right tactics: Athletico, Holland.

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Defensively they are not great especially if you take the midfield into account IMO and that is why neither will win the CL next year.

Chelsea might be good shout for the CL this coming year. If city can get that one key defender they will not be too far off either.

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Supposedly Reus won't be going to Barca this year and aren't they banned from transfers next season?

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Rather Modric than Kroos and Benzema is one of footballs nearly men for me.

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22 Jul 2014 22:18:24
Headline - United Sign Hummels, Vidal, de Maria, De Vriej, Cavani, Cuadrado and a lot of other highly rated players you may or may not have heard of.

It's a fact. Thanks to uncorroborated reports from a number of online media sources which are all reporting each other's unreliable guesswork, we can now confirm that Ed "Woody" Woodward has flown back from the US tour to do the business. His signing rampage through Europe is thought to be worth a number of millions of pounds to the real estate industry as footballers everywhere are selling their houses and looking for new ones in the millionaires paradise of Alderley Edge.

The other beneficiaries will be the mental health hospitals in the Manchester area which will be accommodating the pathological United fans who have been trawling these unreliable media sources on an hourly basis. A doctor, who shall remain nameless, remarked on the increased incidence of speculitis a disease caused by proximity to open windows. "I hope we've got enough beds, " he said. "After last year's debacle, their tolerance is much lower and we're seeing some completely loony behaviour. Family members should look out for the signs and call their health professional immediately. The main symptom of the disease is asking of very stupid questions which absolutely no one can know the answer to."

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Ha ha I've sectioned myself already!

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I think a few mental health units in the South West of England will be busy to, Syd always seems close to the edge.

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22 Jul 2014 21:42:01
With Madrid signing Rodriguez does anyone wonder if we could see CR7 back at OT? How will they fit everyone in the their team.

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Best chance for him to come back was before he signed his new deal. He will remain there for nxt few years unless something changes dramatically.

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No and anyone who thinks its remotely possible is deluded, sorry but that's the harsh truth.

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I don't think the Balon D'or winner will have that problem.

-------Alonso-------

---Kroos---Modric---

-Bale---------James-

------Ronaldo-------

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22 Jul 2014 22:30:33
No chance and to be honest it's time to move on .
We should be trying to find the next Ronaldo

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I think you'll find he has no intention of ever coming back to Utd is all rubbish

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22 Jul 2014 21:35:23
Hi Guys

Maybe this is nothing but Kevin Strootman has gone on tour with Roma.I thought he was out until the autumn.Maybe he has gone just for fitness or maybe he is ahead of schedule and maybe LvG will make a bid in the summer.I realise there is a lot of maybe's in there but I think he is the kind of player we need.

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I think you are wrong on all counts.

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Apparently he is in training and doing well but still expected to be not playing until the autumn (then again sept is autumn so maybe not too late)
Will be a surprise if we go for him now but Jan looking possible.

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Rehabilitation isn't all about physio and doctors you eventually have to test yourself and see how far you can go untill your all 100 percent fit

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22 Jul 2014 21:15:09
I was at the game tonight against Southport and Ben Pearson was by far the best player on the pitch. Don't know if he'll make it into our first team but I'd be surprised if we didn't see him in a premier league team's starting xi in his prime years.

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Ive watched pearson quite a lot over the last 2 years and he could turn into a very good player, doesn't take any prisoners when tackling and has got a great engine on him.i would be surprised if he didn't make it but still see him at least another year away from 1st team involvement other than carling cup

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22 Jul 2014 20:13:29
Patrice Evra, Thanks, I Salute You

Red Devil forever.

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22 Jul 2014 20:00:06
Guys you need to be realistic, we may get Vidal at best, Hummel's will not happened this year

We will sign 3-4 players but none of the names being thrown around apart from Vidal are going to be world class

LVG likes using youth doesn't matter what reputation you have!

We will be ok this year stop panicking.

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I agree that we are perhaps expecting too much in regards to some of the world class talent that we are being linked with. But your words of "We will be ok this year" don't encourage me. I feel that we are in dire need of that world class talent in order to be okay for this year. It's a vicious circle of 'Are they good enough to make an impact - Is it possible to sign them?'

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{Ed002's Note - I assume that your entire life is consumed by clichés. Who decides if a player is "world class" or not. Is there only one "world class" eleven in world football, or are there "world class" reserves? And if there are, do they ever get a game?}

Quite a silly assumption to make regarding whether my life revolves around Cliches. All I was doing was responding with a legitimate post regarding an opinion on a matter and you reply in your typical 'bad mood' or 'you are meaningless' demeanour. No wonder people complain about you Ed if all you do is insult and think you're better than everyone. Feel free to ban me or not to post this just so you don't look like a prat.

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Who are .................

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{Ed002's Note - You are right about one thing, but I wouldn't suggest that you are "meaningless" as you suggested yourself, but perhaps an "Epsilon" as Aldous Huxley would have classified you. There is no need to thank me for being so nice.}

Today's world class is tomorrow's fish paper.

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Ed I hate to google that loll your class.

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It's a waste of time trying to banter with an ed as they have the power what is posted.

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{Ed004's Note - Ok so I'll tell ed007 etc not to post as we are wasting our time

I'd say there's no point arguing with eds nothing else.

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{Ed001's Note - depends on whether you are having a discussion or an argument.}

23 Jul 2014 09:48:23
Think one of the best things about this site is the comments by the Eds: not only give validity to rumours (otherwise us desperate supporters would believe anything!) but gives site another dimension. Sure someone out there has gone through each Eds comments and make deductions about their characters! 002 is a personal fave, whose comments I look for most, for his/her really grumpy comments/sharp put-downs, non-nonsense approach etc. You can make a guess at their mood by the tone of the comment: if you look through all other rumour sites (esp Liverpool) you can see that 002 must work their socks off every minute if the day as they seem to know about every transfer rumour. No wonder 002 gets grumpy with repetitive questions! So thanks loads to all Eds: guessing you don't get paid for all your hard work!

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{Ed001's Note - none of the Eds get anything in terms of money from their work other than myself and Ed033. Though we are hoping to change that if we can ever earn the revenue, rather than having agreed sponsors just not paying up for months leaving us unable to replace them as there is an agreement in place, so ending up out of pocket massively. Sorry, I was meant to be saying thanks but ended up moaning! Must be my age, with 40 creeping up over the horizon I seem to be getting almost as grumpy as Ed007, who is a lot older. Thank you.}

Thank God You not "meaningless " 002
Patrick

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23 Jul 2014 10:56:22
Bye Joe!

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22 Jul 2014 19:53:21
Not that I think or want this to happen BUT where abouts do people think United will finish this year if we only sign Shaw and Herrera? We have slightly addressed our most pressing concerns in the middle of midfield and at left back so do people think we will already be an improvement on next years league position or have our rivals strengthened too much for us to already make an impact?

I know this will probably be irrelevant if/when we sign Vidal etc but i'd just like to hear other peoples views on this.

Everyones thoughts would be appreciated.

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I think we are already stronger. The number of points lost in the first half of last year from the vacant left back position was unbelievable. Pat improved in the second half (or others learned to cover him better) but the damage has been done. Shaw will make a massive difference, and will rebalance the whole back line.

I see the loss of Ferdy and Vidic as a big plus. We can play a much higher line with any two from stock of centre backs (including M Keane). Even without a centre back signing I believe we would do better than last season - probably struggling against the top 4.

We have the midfielders to shut up shop and stifle teams, but we've lacked drive, creativity and support into the box from centre midfield. Herrera will add this in spades. I believe he will do really well to link our best players together. I also think Cleverly will link well with him, and may rediscover some of his early promise.

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No I think we need at least one cb and a cm and maybe a pacey left sided player

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22 Jul 2014 20:42:28
We won't only be signing them 2 so not even thinking about it.

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If we get vidal and hummels, I believe we will be in top three may even win the title but that will be a stretch.

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If we sign nobody else - 5th/6th
If we sign Vidal and Vermaelen/De Vrij - 3rd
If we sign Vidal, Hummels, Vermaelen/De Vrij and a decent wide player - 2nd/1st

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We are definitely stronger than last year, but the competition we need this year will be City with the squad they won the league 2) Chelsea w Fabregas and Costa 3) Arsenal w Sanchez 4) Liverpool w/o Suarez, but many more inflows. It doesn't look it has got any easier than last year to get into top 4, but when we won the league in 12/13, we were not the top favourites anyway. We can still hope!

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22 Jul 2014 18:48:28
Ed002

Has juventus bid for pereya? (spelling) as a replacement for vidal

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{Ed002's Note - Pereyra is a winger.}

22 Jul 2014 20:52:47
The don't play in the same position but Juve do have to balance their books after these signings so it gives me confidence that they are going to offload one of their big players and I just hope its Vidal to us.

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23 Jul 2014 08:58:37
Hardly a winger, he played almost all games last season either as a CM or CAM.

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22 Jul 2014 19:22:30
Also while I'm at it I'd like to wish Steven Gerrard the best of luck, retiring after not winning the world cup with England to concentrate on not winning the premier league with Liverpool.

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Brilliant, just brilliant

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I'm hopeful for no slip-ups.

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22 Jul 2014 20:29:22
Nice Joe!

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22 Jul 2014 19:18:26
To add to my earlier post, the Guardain have us after Snidger which is hopefully just more nonsense. I'm struggling to see where all the players will fit in, it's almost like a whole new 1st 11. Another has us signing Vermaelen with either Smalling or Jones moving in the opposite direction. Then there's Hummels and Cuadrado not forgetting Shaw and Herrera of course. Add in Di Maria, Vidal, and possibly Carvalho and hey ho, we can play 343 if you add in RVP and Rooney. The mind boggles, I'll be amazed if we sign more than 2 more this window.

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{Ed004's Note - From reading reports and listening to Ed002 it appears we are very much interested in Hummels and Vidal. Anything on top of those two is just a bonus. I reckon LvG will want Strootman in January once he has fully healed and regained some form. Over next 2 windows I would like a winger and possibly a new full back. So maybe LvG is thinking Cuadrado to replace Rafael and then we would only need a winger next summer and maybe a striker}

Is cuadrado not a winger tho

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{Ed002's Note - Cuadrado is a wing back who needs to make a decision about his transfer to Barcelona as a replacement for Dani Alves over the next week.}

I know barcelona intend to play him as a wingback a bit like they did with adriano but I've only ever seen him play as a winger

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{Ed002's Note - Why ask the original question then? Hopeless.}

I haven't seen that much of him to be honest but when I have he played as a winger

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{Ed002's Note - A feeble excuse.}

22 Jul 2014 18:39:19
Daft one, but has anyone seen how much like his brother Jonas Hummels looks?! Crazy stuff!

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22 Jul 2014 19:07:54
Don't say that. Ed will end up signing the Wrong one

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That was going to be my next point mate!

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22 Jul 2014 18:23:04
Yesterday the Fail said we were about to sign Hummels. Today they say we have bid for Cuadrado. This from the paper who at no point mentioned any interest in Herrera. They make it up so let's stop giving it any credence. It's just to sell papers. Same with most of the websites and twitter feeds - people claiming to be in the know. Clearly, the odd one might know something but an awful lot are complete nonsense. Let's all remember that.

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22 Jul 2014 19:06:38
Sounds exactly like Sydney! to be fair. :-)

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A Spanish media outlet broke the story about MU agreeing a €20m deal. They are supposedly a paper close to Barcelona, a bit like Marca are close to Real Madrid. A few hours after this broke all the English papers started reporting it. Truth is there is no agreement at all, just MU trying to agree a deal with BvB. Nothing more, nothing less.

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22 Jul 2014 17:48:37
Klopp: "What are we talking about today? Mats to Manchester United? For how much? €20m (£15.8m)? With those kind of sums can you forget that straight away."

I have to agree. There's no chance he would be going for £16m. But if we can agree a fee with BvB then there's no reason why he will not be playing for MU next season.

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"Both will stay here this season. There is no indication they'd want to be elsewhere, " klopp told the German press.

"Did they also say €20m (£16m) (for Hummels)? When papers mention such numbers you know it is garbage."

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22 Jul 2014 19:00:51
Next Season. I want him this season

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It is garbage. No way have MU agreed a €20m deal. But there's every chance a deal can be agreed.

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22 Jul 2014 17:42:57
Nothing would make me happier than a couple of huge signings right now, if we don't sign anyone I think I'll cry!
On another point- has anyone seen barca and real's proposed starting 11's this season? Insane! We need to spend big this and next summer, really big! Or develop our youth system, but without those were going to get no where near barca Madrid or bayern!

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Don't worry so much, we won't be playing them in the next 12 months

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22 Jul 2014 17:09:47
The transfer window drives me insane. I find myself logging onto this website every hour to see if there is any new information or updates on our transfer targets.
Thank god I go away to Ibiza in a couple of weeks to try and take my mind off it, mind you I will probably be logging on daily whilst i'm over there.
Come on Woody. pull you bloody finger out and buy a centeral midfielder and a center back before I have a bloody heart attack.

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Stay away from the cannibal pills Simmo mate :)

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Snap re checking the site every hour. Simmo if you're in any fit state to log on whilst in Ibiza then I'll be sorely disappointed ;) Haha. I'm not saying I went overboard there last year but I will say I saw dragons, fairy's & ladymen (who may or may not have been real).

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22 Jul 2014 21:00:35
I did at least two weeks every year from the summer of '97 to the summer of '02. I still see things like that now :-P
I tend to go to the north of the island now when I go back.
Not as crazy.

Rk16

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22 Jul 2014 17:08:03
Hello everyone!
Everyday I return from ofc, thinking something must have been confirmed regarding Manchester United's prospective signings, but alas, nothing materialises. Compared to last few years though, this season trf window looks promising.
Just had a small query, can a team by pass ffp rules by taking players on loan or, offering a major part of salary as bonouses etc. And if yes, is there anything being done to address the issue. I read somewhere that PSG was contemplating taking deMaria on loan to override ffp.
Cheers!

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22 Jul 2014 16:15:05
Long time reader 1st time post great story unitedwestand. Anyway even though I have every faith in lvg and cannot wait for the season to start we unfortunately are not the biggest club in the world and will not be until we make a statement in the transfer market madrid and barca say who they want and then go out and buy them. We are so far behind when it comes to record transfers! Everyone knows where we need players go out and buy vidal and hummels then people will start to take notice

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22 Jul 2014 16:48:21
Cheers mate.

re you're point, I think the fact we've just signed the biggest shirt deal in history tells you that commercially we are the biggest club in the world & there's no doubt had James been available to us we would have splashed the cash, but if a player wants to move somewhere then it takes it out of our hands. For foreign players the lure of Madrid is much stronger than Manchester simply because of the lifestyle & climate. Have some faith mate, I think we'll get
Vidal.

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I hope your right about vidal and I think lvg will be the best signing we will make this summer. He will get a lot more out of the players there I feel. Who you reckon will get the captains armband

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22 Jul 2014 18:12:40
I think RVP will probably get the nod but despite what I think of him I think Rooney is the best option.

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Yeah I think your right rvp will get it not sure about rooney great service but asking to leave twice left a sour taste in the mouth. Not too many candidates otherwise

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22 Jul 2014 15:37:17
Nice little heartwarming tale to cheer up your Tuesday lads.

Been a hectic day & I've been counting down the hours. I turned up to my last job & the home owner is lovely old fella, takes me 2 & half hours to sort his boiler as it's in the most awkward of places & Is in a bad way, it's a million degrees & I just want to be home in the garden. Just as I'm packing my stuff in the van day dreaming about getting home to hear we've signed Vidal, old matey taps me on the back & asks if I'll do him one more thing. Now I really don't want to but begrudgingly agree. He takes me down his cellar pours two cold pints & says "will you have a beer with me young en?"

So I've just spent the last two hours drinking with Eric talking all things United & sharing our deep hatred for all things Liverpool. Sometimes we forget how lonely people can get & had I said no he'd probably of had no visitors all day. Here's to you Eric, the lifelong United fan.

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22 Jul 2014 16:07:50
Bless him, very nice storie.

Is that where your avatar pic was taken UWS? :-)

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Great story mate!

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22 Jul 2014 16:22:29
Good Old Eric

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Topman unitedwestand, cool post that.

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Haha CTR, yes he took it inbetween slurps. Of his pint I might add! Cheers guys, just made me think about how we all take things for granted from time to time. Life really isn't that bad.

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Good story and I imagine you didn't get stopped for drink driving then as youve managed to share this story ;)

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I like that story UWS you made a lonely life long red happy!

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Great story United we stand. well done you . We all live a busy life without a thought about how lonely some people are

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23 Jul 2014 12:26:37
Nice one, UWS. I see it in work every day. Proud old men and women, left on their own for hours on end. For all we look down our noses at supposed third world countries, the way they treat their elderly, would put is to shame.

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22 Jul 2014 13:39:06
Still would love to see Vidal join, very good player to watch. On that note, united player or not, who would you liken Vidal to who you've watched play before? Or would you not at all liken him to anyone and consider him purely individual?

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22 Jul 2014 14:39:20
He's most similar to Yaya Toure, but he's abit quicker and a harder worker. He will drive the team forward with his all action displays. A true box to box warrior, as likely to put in a last minute sliding tackle as he is to burst forward and score the winner in extra time.

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22 Jul 2014 14:43:32
Keano

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22 Jul 2014 14:53:30
Think you'd have to liken him to Keane: rampages box to box, vocal, passionate, shots on goal, gets everyone involved in play. What's Chilean for shrimp sandwiches?

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Marouane Fellaini, circa 2013.

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Agree 100% with the keane comments

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Shappy, I've been saying to friends that I believe were it not for Toure, Vidal would be considered the best CM in the world. I do see elements of Roy too like.

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Keane but better tecnically

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Robbo and keano

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22 Jul 2014 12:31:49
Klopp adamant that Hummels is going nowhere. Is anyone aware of whether he has a buy out clause? and if there is one whether United would be willing to trigger it? Or whether this is another local German summer salary negotiaton?

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He's already said he'd like to play for us, just that he wants champions league football, it's down to us to guarantee that and get him now, or just go for him next season, thing is I think we'll need him to get top 4

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Sounds like another Toni Kroos situation to me. get his agent to shout his mouth off so he can engineer a move to Barcelona or Real Madrid.

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22 Jul 2014 12:30:15
Will Keane and Tom Lawrence have signed new deals. I hope along with Wilson and one or two others that they get their chances. Lawrence was particularly impressive at the end of last season I thought.

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22 Jul 2014 13:56:38
I always felt Will Keane was a year away from the first team squad before he got his injury. It has been a tough time battling back and he has not looked the same player. It is unfortunate, but obviously the club feel like with the right coaching and fully fit he can be an asset and push for a first team position.

Everybody I know that has ever met him has suggested he is an extremely nice guy with his head screwed on, so hopefully that attitude will stand him in good stead.

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22 Jul 2014 12:28:55
Klopp laughing off this rumour means nothing. He has no say in the fee or the players future. That is up to the board and the player himself. German papers are reporting that it is 28 million Euros. The next few days will tell us a lot I am sure, but a manager saying its nonsense is hardly anything new.

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Not happening. You are just setting yourself up for disappointment

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22 Jul 2014 12:16:42
The fringe media reports are just hilarious - anything to fill up space in an infinite universe of useless words.

I think I'll start my own news service now.

"Huge blow to Doncaster Rovers and Walsall, Messi to stay with Barcelona."

"Manchester United and Arsenal to miss out on this sublime 4 year old dubbed the next Patrick Viera by his mum and dad."

You heard it here first!

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22 Jul 2014 12:30:37
The ones that make me laugh which I see daily are:

HUGE BLOW TO MANCHESTER UNITED

Jonny Foreigner who has been linked to Manchester United in recent weeks has signed for FC Gorgonzola. This will be a massive blow to Louis van Gaal as he tries to rebuild the Manchester United team for the new season.

The only people who linked Jonny Foreigner to us was that particular paper / website. They link us to a player who will never sign so when he doesn't sign it is a HUGE BLOW. The Manchester United name sells unfortunately.

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GDS

Spot on. The Mail has 2 or 3 Unted stories every day, most of them complete rubbish.

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22 Jul 2014 11:35:17
Klopp has just shot down our Hummels dream calling our supposed deal garbage and laughed at the 20 million euro price.

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It has nothing whatsoever to do with Klopp. He has no say on the fee or the players future.

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@Fresh!

Klopp will have little say in the fee, but will have a say in his future. If Klopp wants Hummels to stay, Dortmund will fight tooth and neck to keep him, unless of course the player expresses a clear desire to move on or a very big offer which is hard to turn down is made by some club (and why would anyone want to do that)

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22 Jul 2014 11:07:24
Hi Eds

Just wondering would Modric become available now with Madrid signing Kroos and Rodriguez super player and proved it in the WC.

Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - Search engine.}

If we get Vidal I would almost go as far as saying he isn't needed! Although Vidal, Modric and Herrera in midfield would be mouth watering.

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22 Jul 2014 11:01:30
Dear Ed002,
I don't bother about the rumoured deal for hummels in papers
But I read on the liverpool page we are trying very hard to get a deal done.
Just one question are we the only one intrerested.?
Do you think a deal can be done? As you told us
Quite rightly in the case of Shaw that the deal can be done!

Thanks for your efforts!

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{Ed002's Note - Do not rule out interest from Barcelona or him staying in Dortmund.}

22 Jul 2014 17:22:13
Ed002 I know you don't like answering this
. yet can't helped being asked.
On a scale of 10 how would u rate our chances to sign him? Only asking because you
Mentioned on the scousers page we are trying very hard.
I accept irrespective of your view it may or may not be completed
Just your opinion.
thanx and cheers for the wonderful updates!

We all wait anxiously for your updates
Some more vocal and some laid back like me.
On an honest note. I would like to do your job?
someday when you retire anoint me your successor! Lol
cheers

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{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get involved in this and am done with the subject now.}

22 Jul 2014 10:49:38
Ed002

Is there any truth to the rumours of our interest in Rodriguez and do we have an interest in Pedro?

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{Ed002's Note - Which Rodriguez?}

James Rodriguez from Monaco

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{Ed002's Note - Of course not . He will complete his move to Madrid sometime today.}

22 Jul 2014 13:33:09
Thanks Ed002.

Pedro from Barcelona?

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What about Ricardo Rodriguez Ed?

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{Ed002's Note - If Luke Shaw is sold, then maybe.}

22 Jul 2014 13:33:09
Thanks Ed002.

Pedro from Barcelona?

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{Ed002's Note - Clutching at straws - it is a futile waste of my time.}

22 Jul 2014 10:49:24
Ed002 or anyone else that knows a lot about FFP, could you let me know about this potential issue I just thought of.

With City owners having the Australian and USA franchise clubs - are they permitted to use funds from New York to buy City players and therefore make the FFP rules defunct? A scenario I thought of:

Yaya Toure - signs a 2 year extension with City then they guarantee a 3 year contract in New York with wages over £150k. In return New York pay a transfer fee of £100mil for Yaya and City have £100mil extra to buy players that they wouldn't have had?

If this is allowed its a matter of time before sugar daddy clubs start doing this and it also means they can then make contract offers far more appealing to world class players entering their prime. Obviously this is a simplified example but would be interested to know if our main rivals with billionaire backers could have another ace up their sleeves for FFP and to offer even more benefits to potential acquisitions.

Thanks in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

Thanks Ed

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22 Jul 2014 10:49:02
Ed002, do you know whether the "imminent bid" you said regarding Vidal is or will be acceptable?

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{Ed002's Note - Give me a break.}

22 Jul 2014 10:41:28
Bebe has confirmed that he is on his way to Benfica, let's hope that's not the reason Ed has left the US tour!

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22 Jul 2014 10:39:51
hi all, well i'm still happy from the herrera and shaw deals, but the thought of vidal and hummels is something else . Ed002 i'm sure your sick and tired of the vidal questions, so i'm sorry in advance for this one lol :-) but wats your take on the vidal deal m8, do u think it could actually happen, could utd pull it off :-) thanks in advance as always m8, awesome work

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22 Jul 2014 10:04:16
It's looking very likely that up to three players could join in the next couple of weeks. A lot of people at the MEN think that Hummels is nearly certain, the Vidal bid has gone in at £42.5 million and a bid for Blind is being readied to cover left back and also play defensive midfield. If you had those three to Herrera and Shaw that will be around a £150 million spend - personally I don't think we could ask much more than that for one window even though we won't have got a forward in. After getting these players, van Gaal will be nearly happy. In future he will have to look for another forward, probably Strootman and also a new back up keeper for when Lindegaard gets totally fed up of sitting on a bench.

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22 Jul 2014 10:21:20
Aren't the MEN just reporting the daily fail report? German outlets have laughed at it, as has Kloop. What am I missing here?

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Both klopp and bild (who I find reliable ) have rubbished reports of hummels moving to united

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Hasn't Kloop laughed off the Hummels' report?

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That would be a great way to start the Van Gaal revolution and we would all be happy. I do think though we will get one more centre back and a winger this window.optimism I know.
I think sales will be as important this window to get the squad to the size needed for the season.I think, we will recoup anywhere between £50 and £70m.

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@jred

The Editor has told us that the club are trying very hard to get a deal done for Hummels.

Of course that does not mean that it will definitely happen, but the rumors are not at all unfounded about us trying for him. Words like "done deal" are rubbish though and certainly the fee quoted in the Spanish newspaper was laughable.

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Redfaith
Im sure several teams would like hummels but klopp and reports in bild have both said he is going no where.
I hope there wrong but like I said I've found bild to be quite reliable on german football in the past

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@jred

I understand that too. All I am saying is that the rumours are not unfounded and we are indeed trying to get a deal done, just like it was with Vidal in January. The fact that we are trying to get it done, means, to me that we have encouragement from his agent as well.

One thing that sets Manchester United apart from all the other teams who would like Hummels imo, is we have the financial muscle to get it done and pay the cash upfront and Hummels has gone on record saying he would be open to the possibility of joining us.

I don't think it will happen though, can't see Dortmund letting him go right now, and he is not pushing for the move.

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MU are trying hard to agree a deal for Hummels, whether it happens or not remains to be seen, but we are trying.

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RF, the question is, will MU pay the number that BvB want? I am not sure, I hope so. But there must be some wiggle room if we are able to enter into negotiations for him (which is what's happening now). If he wasn't for sale, we wouldn't be negotiating fullstop. They would tell us to bugger off.

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22 Jul 2014 09:46:02
Lots of rumours flying round about defensive purchases.assuming we get our targets would we be happy in letting either Smalling or Jones go as part of the Vermarlen deal which some media are currently reporting. For me it would be Smalling, I know blot everyone agrees but his development has really stunted (feel sorry for him as he looked a real prospect at Fulham. came too early with Rio and Vidic in The way)

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22 Jul 2014 09:13:39
Klopp has said in germany that all the talk of hummels leaving is garbage and that hummels is def staying put

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22 Jul 2014 08:49:03
Other than the world cup has anyone seen the Colombian Quadrado play and does he warrant our interest.
Concerned this could be World Cup fever. or just pao

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You should watch some Italian football mate. I do not believe he would ever go for the reported 28 mill but he can play and is very good. I posted this a few weeks ago when people were questioning who he is.

He is better than griezman, who became flavour of the month here recently. For a left sided player in Europe, I would say he makes the list of top 5 or 6 which includes Reus, Di Maria, iturbe, Quadrado, Muniain, rodriguez.

The only thing with him is his crossing can be inconsistent.

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22 Jul 2014 14:28:47
Except he's predominantly right sided? Don't think i've ever seen him play anywhere bar the right.

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You didn't include bale ronaldo or ribery in that list

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Included guys who might be available in the market. Those 3 are not exactly for sale are they?

Besides ribbery is getting up there in age and might have seen the best of him a year ago.

Just looking 2 years ahead I think my list will be close to the best out there plus Bale.

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22 Jul 2014 08:23:49
Hi Eds and everyone else.

Could someone please inform me off all Man Utd targets and how far along we are from Vidal Hummels Blind etc.

Kind regards

Paul

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{Ed002's Note - Or you could read the posts.}

22 Jul 2014 07:37:49
I know Cuadrado has been well covered in recent posts. The difference today some very reliable sources saying we made a bid true or more rubbish?

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22 Jul 2014 07:25:38
"Manchester United give trial to 'next Bale' Oscar Borg.":GMS

Anyone knows more about the guy? may be in 2 years we can have a good LW/LWB?

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We are after the lad Oxford to, West Ham are not going to be happy to lose those two. Hopefully we can get them both!

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21 Jul 2014 22:43:31
Does anyone have any idea if the club maintain any interest still in William carvalho? Was a name that was everywhere not so long ago now nothing?

Thanks

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Nothing mentioned about him for ages. I would love a midfield of him, Herrera and Vidal. Reading rumors that Arsenal are in for him now.

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Not seen enough of him but looks good especially for his age. However, I.think van gaal wants Strootman for that role and will wait until he is fit again.

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Would prefer strootman when fit for the number 6 role

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22 Jul 2014 00:03:35
Hello, As the summer progresses and various links between players and clubs are made, I never understand why Utd are not linked with Ross Barkley. He is full of potential, is very close to the young Roy Keane we bought from Forest, and would adapt well into the kind of mobile, higher tempo team that we aim to become again. Is there a reason known why the connection is never made? I see city circling and that is a bad situation for us if he goes there in the long term.

Thanks

Billy.

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Sure Barkley is a talent, but where exactly do you see him fitting into our starting XI?
We already have 3 players who can play the 10 in Mata, Rooney and Kagawa. then in the 8 we have Herrera and potentially Vidal so despite him being a talent, I see no reason why we would be looking to buy atm.

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Maybe because we have 3 number 10's already?

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