Manchester United Banter Archive July 22 2018

22 Jul 2018 23:50:53
How long do you get to cancel your MUTV subscription?

22 Jul 2018 23:55:26
Have to have it a month. Just hope you don’t gauge your own eyes out it that time lol.

22 Jul 2018 23:55:53
One Month. I will do the same and i'm not watching the epl games either. I know how we are going to play and i don't enjoy that footy. I honestly had enough.

23 Jul 2018 00:05:31
The motm goes to me for staying awake.

23 Jul 2018 00:13:00
how do you cancel?
my PayPal says I'm due a charge next month.
I only want it for the pre season games.

23 Jul 2018 01:42:24
Rohan, I've no idea, mate. Our Sky TV is in my wife's name, and she takes care of it. My son and I are now feeling quite sheepish at how much we begged her to get it for us :)

23 Jul 2018 08:18:21
It comes as part of cable subscription in Portugal, but last week, they removed the channel from the list. Thank God.

23 Jul 2018 11:37:05
Watched most of the first half, I woke up at 12:30am and was glad I missed the second half.

23 Jul 2018 10:33:04
I've had it for years and love watching all of the content, especially the pre-season games, get to see some of the kids have a go and see what they are made of, especially in these early games against the Mexican / American sides.

The rest of the season the repeats and videos of people's goals etc are brilliant, I'll find myself just sat watching it for hours watching all of Scholesy's goals, last night it was still on after the game and I watched all of Rashford's goals. I know it is a bit expensive but I couldn't cancel it, such good content. I watched a great documentary on the Girls Under 16s team as well, a pretty good watch if you get chance while you have it for the month.

23 Jul 2018 15:32:28
Girls U16 game, you say.

22 Jul 2018 21:45:37
And apparently we could do things in the market other clubs could only dream of doing🤷‍♂️. Nice to see it in full flow!

22 Jul 2018 16:50:04
There some bizarre rumours doing the rounds right now. Are we really thinking about spending £50M on Maguire? Or £60M on Willian? The number of players we are being linked with is mind boggling yet all the noises from Jose are pretty glum. Given the activity we are seeing elsewhere you do wonder what is going on behind the scenes. The price Everton are prepared to pay for Richarlison is staggering, the game has gone bonkers.

And so to our competitors. Liverpool have done good business addressing their weaknesses, a top GK will make a real difference to them. Intreating to see if Salah can repeat his phenomenal season. City are looking to offload Sterling having replaced him with Mahrez. Given how strong they were not sure they need to do much business. Arsenal have a new Manager, could go either way, Spurs have been quiet and Chelsea could be about t lose 2of their best players. So, with a couple of very good signings we could be in the mix again and so think City and the Scousers will be the teams to beat this year.

I take Ken’s point about players being poor for several Managers and I don’t disagree, but I do think we have a couple who are being badly managed. Pogba has frustrated me when playing for United but has shown how good he can be playing for France. Perhaps he needs better players around him but he and Jose seem to have a rift. Who knows what’s going on, just wish Jose would stop with the doom and glow comments ‘we have no players, I don’t expect any arrivals’ and so on.

Predictions from me - Bale and Toby.

22 Jul 2018 16:56:02
Yep
I agree with Toby but I think William and Maguire could soon be arriving. With 3 leaving 😆😆.

22 Jul 2018 17:23:38
Bale, Toby and Sandro I'd be ecstatic. Actually I'd rather miss out on Toby and go with the many cbs we have. Bailly and lindelof should start, rojo and tuanzebe even fosu to cover.

{Ed004's Note - Would give us the strongest side in the league I reckon. Would even sell Martial to fund it. However, don't think it'll happen unfortunately}

22 Jul 2018 17:30:06
Willian -😂😂.

22 Jul 2018 17:47:01
Ed, do you mean that we won't sign any of them? Or you are doubtful about three of them arriving together?

{Ed004's Note - I'm being pessimistic (probably because I'm hungover) but I just can't see us completing deals for all 3 of then in the next 18 days. I would love to be proven wrong. Would be delighted if we signed 2 out of the 3. Think we hold an interest in those players though}

22 Jul 2018 18:49:21
i think the PL goofed up badly moving the transfer deadline this year. should have moved it later not earlier.

{Ed002's Note - It is not the fault of the PL.}

22 Jul 2018 19:32:16
True Ed! I'd love it if we complete those deals as well. What does your gut feeling say, who do you think we'll end up signing?

{Ed004's Note - I think Alderwerield and a surprise signing that comes in under the radar. Though can see us being heavily linked to Bale soon with nothing materialising}

22 Jul 2018 19:50:17
I'm expecting a presser where Jose rips off a mask Scooby doo style revealing big sam and we've signed Kevin Nolan, jay jay okocha and Ivan campo.

22 Jul 2018 21:12:59
It will upset ajh but he may have to get to terms with the loss of blind and the arival of Maguire.

22 Jul 2018 21:43:06
Toby and Bale for me too.

22 Jul 2018 23:11:01
I don't think we sign anyone else. The club are either not overspending on players or fully backing Jose. Also they do need to offload players. I actually starting to debate if they thinking of going down a new direction.

23 Jul 2018 05:37:52
Lol Mort, with lack of flair (only Pogba) in the middle of the park, I would take Jay Jay Okocha right now without thinking about it TBH.

22 Jul 2018 13:22:22
Sorry clicked submit before I finished. I would rather we did not sign another player if it meant we addressed the current issue of being directionless and wasting money.

Let's stop with the square pegs in round holes, the getting rid of potential for the last hoorays brigade. As much as it pains me let's see some strategy, a game plan where we can see the deficiencies being addressed. If that means a couple of seasons of not buying a star because we are developing a player through game time so be it. It has got to be better than what we are doing now.

Rant over. Have a good day.

22 Jul 2018 10:39:35
I am starting to feel concerned for the coming season. Two weeks on Friday is our first game and I don't see a championship winning team as things stand. I know there is still 18 days left in the transfer window but whoever we may buy needs to be integrated into the club and with the World Cup absentees I feel it is starting to get late for making us bridge a gap to improve quickly enough to challenge. We need a good start.

We can bury our heads in the sand but we cannot ignore the aggression Liverpool have shown in the market, they are displaying the same sureness of direction City did in recent years and it is hard to see how we would finish above them or City this season. I can't see the same sureness of direction in our board. What is Woodward doing at the moment, answers on the back of a postage stamp.

It will take something collossal to surpass teams that are already organised like City and Liverpool. Woodward needs to display there is a direction and not just in terms of commercial acumen in the boardroom.

{Ed033's Note - If you think Manchester United can't win the Championship, then there is a problem.

22 Jul 2018 10:59:44
Red man your right, I was thinking about this. Woodward a good man for the business side of the game.
Like last year with perisic could have bought him on the cheap and this year did we rush in to buying fred, I thought by now at least 4 or 5 would have been sold.
If we sell pogba has he an upgrade lined up.
Lot of question marks for me.
We need a director.

22 Jul 2018 11:34:32
Perisic didn’t want to come to United by all accounts? How have we rushed into buying Fred? Jose has already said the deal was looked at for a long time, he was obviously identified and we went and got him early in the summer.
How do we all know that Woodward is sitting with his feet up doing sod all. For all we know, he could be working on 2-3 transfer deals.
Liverpool sign a couple of players and United fans fall to bits with worry. Remember Klopp has spend close to £400 million and produced zero trophies.
I’m not Jose’s biggest fan, don’t particularly like him to be honest but he wins things, has done for 15+ years. My betting is we have 2 more quality signings through the door before the window shuts and they won’t be named that have been speculated by all the media either.

22 Jul 2018 11:44:33
I've got to admit I'm feeling a bit nervous now with only about 2 weeks to go and only 1 first team signing we all no what we need player wise and there's lots of talk about players who we are after but it seems like we in no rush. but still couple of weeks left and we have players to promote if we don't do anything else hopefully the youngsters can show on pre season why they should be in the team.

22 Jul 2018 11:54:40
So a lot of talk about United not doing the business right, Woodward and Mou are apparently just wasting time and not buying the players whom they should be buying.

We bought two players, Fred and Dalot. The latter is one for the future, I mean I will hope he can dislodge Valencia at RB this season, but if he doesn't, then I hope he is given a fair chance to prove himself worthy.

Everyone has written off Fred, like literally, written him off. And can anyone tell me a good enough reason for that? Do any of the posters know enough about him, that they feel United have made a mistake? According to Ed 002, we rushed into buying him and that could mean two things; either he has an injury, which we have completely ignored or we could have signed another midfield players AKA Mr. Toni Kroos who seems to be the one midfielder that Jose wants to buy as well.

If the problem is, that we will have too many midfielders to choose from, then I personally feel it's a damn good problem to have. As a manager, if I can choose between Pogba, Fred, Kroos, Matic, Herrera, Fellaini, and the other youth academy guys, then I'd be quite pleased with the depth that we have.

As far as other teams as concerned, the likes of Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea, even Arsenal, they will buy players and whether we like it or not, they will buy some good players and some bad players. Chelsea are sort of in another transition with a new manager coming in and they are still trying to sort out their striker hassles, Arsenal have bought a couple of good players, Liverpool have spent good money on the one player they needed the most (GK)

And the fact that we haven't sold any of our players, then that just tells you about the quality of the players that we have. Bang on average. If we can't sell Smalling to any other club, then that just tells you how poor the player really is. Players that want to sulk, because they have to work hard to impress the boss should also leave (personal opinion) . The fact that Alexis has stagnated Martial's and Rashford's growth is just crap. How can a player let some other player decide if he will develop into a better player or not? Yes, Alexis did disrupt our game and he might not have been the player we should have gone for, but guess what, he is here and he will probably be here till December. If he gives us his 100% without cribbing then I'll be a happy man.

We have about 18 days left for the Transfer Window to be shut, we don't need big names to walk through the door, we want players who would improve us. United, at least in the post SAF era have not said no to offering money to players, so I'd request fellow posters to not worry about Woodward not spending the dough.

22 Jul 2018 12:01:26
Could have bought perisic last July cheaper than we could now.
Ed002 said we might have rushed in to buying fred.
But you might know something the rest of us don't.
I'm not panicking just yet.
And ibra should have never got another year added on.

22 Jul 2018 12:03:04
Leahy nobody wants our players. The club are trying hard to sell a few but nobody is prepared to pay decent money for them.
I thought we pulsed ajax pants down getting what we got for blind.

I mean who would pay decent money for them as per ed002 jones shaw darmian martial and smalling are all for sale. Jesus martial has said he wants to leave and we havnt had 1 offer revealed which surprises me to be honest.
I would have thought there would be interest In smalling from the botto. Half epl teams at the very least but so far nothing.

Still plenty of time.

22 Jul 2018 12:32:10
There are still 18 days left that's true, but if we're going to buy, then we should buy top players only or very young good players. We don't need more squad players aka rojo, smalling, Jones, Darmian etc.
If we want to compete, then we need a goid cb, McGuire or Verane and a world class forward, Mbappe. If we buy these two, we will have addressed most of the problem positions.
But, will we buy this calibre of player? We've spent £72m and sold Blind for £18m. So we should have lots in the potty to spend on two major signings and we still will get some return if we sell rojo and Darmian.
If we don't buy, then i agree with RedMan that PL is out of reach. In fact top4 is debatable.

{Ed007's Note - Harry McGuire? Him or Varane, hhmmmm tough choice that but at least there would be someone to deflect the flak away from Smalling and Jones if you sign McGuire.}

22 Jul 2018 12:51:43
Leahy - I don't know anything more than what you know or what the Eds know. All the transfer knowledge I get is from this website and from you guys. My only point about Fred was that we should not write him off just yet, and that too on the pretext that we could have signed someone else.

Maybe we should have bought Perisic last year when he was cheap, but maybe he didn't want to come or maybe Inter had no intention of selling him. I don't know for sure.

I agree with Ibra not getting another year / 6 months with us, that was a complete waste. But why bother about things that have already happened?

Ken- I agree with you, we see ludicrous news about us getting linked to players, but none and absolutely none of our players are ever linked with a move away. Heck, even Pogba is not in the news as a potential target for any side? You're right, we can't sell players if no one wants to buy them.

AAA - I'd stay away from Macguire, overrated English defender. He's not United material.

22 Jul 2018 13:00:18
If we do not sign a World Class LB and RB then we will not compete for the title or CL.

Gone are the days where they were the last on the team/ sheet, least significant positions. Those two positions are the most important now in football from my perspective, certainly to this disjointed Utd. They dictate whether you will be a threat going forward or a side-side isolated team of individuals. If they support the midfield quickly at the right times, it means the team can attack in numbers, it provides outlets and opportunities for players with the ball. Playing with two converted wingers who do the bare minimum every week is not good enough for the 3rd/ 4th year on the trot.

They do not know when to attack, they are uncomfortable defensively, Valencia is dodgy on the ball, Young is predictable. Both are reluctant to cross the ball, both look for the easy pass, and to check back. They need defensive midfielders to cover their lapses, which means our attackers end up trying to beat 6 defenders as we attack with 3 men maximum. Yes they are committed, work hard, experienced - but they handicap the rest of the team, the fact that there are worse performers than them every week should not give them a pass - because they are virtually almost bringing nothing to the table!

22 Jul 2018 13:23:36
Spot on beast. Jose has asked for full backs for 3 windows now.
Liverpool in cl final with a poor midfield and keeper so tjey spend 100m on 2 midfielders and 65m on a keeper and 15m on shaqiri to cover salah and mane.
City did same last year.
Nobody was calling pep out for not getting the best out of what he had.
Nobody calling klopp out sayi g just make karius and milner better.
But couple of people on here are saying jose shod get more out of the players ww have. i'm saying there is no better to come from young jones smalling darmian valencia shaw jessie herrera fellaini mata and if you want to see pogba lulaku etc perform better then surround them with better players just like klopp is doing and pep did and chelsea are doing . Those managers had no person people telling the. Just improve what u have. Klopp cl final and brought in 3 1st team starters including a reacement potentially for the captain that led them thete because a blind man could see henderson is not good enough over a sustained period
Terrible squad we have full of holes and average joes. Big over achievement coming 2nd last year.
We won't compete to win anything work the squad as it stands.
Even getting rid of those mentioned above and replacing them work youth puts is In a stronger position imo.

22 Jul 2018 13:37:09
Good post beast.

22 Jul 2018 14:15:33
Top post Ken and Beast.

22 Jul 2018 14:53:25
Maguire😂😂😂😂😂.

22 Jul 2018 17:29:13
We will see what Jose is made of his 3rd year now, 3 summer transfer windows millions spent time to deliver.

22 Jul 2018 06:40:19
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 22nd July 2018

22 Jul 2018 08:27:33
Thought Ronaldo had to pay back 12 pound and 2 pence at first Ed😂😂. Also, on Di Marzio, his problem is saying 'done deal' far too much when infact it isnt, no wonder Ed002 doesn't say it.

{Ed001's Note - the problem is that he gets loads wrong but everyone forgets that when he gets one right. Di Marzio is just another Sly 'journo' stirring up a betting market.}

22 Jul 2018 09:40:02
Hi Ed been a while.
Entertaining read and hope you have a great summer.

{Ed001's Note - long time no see mate, everything ok?}

22 Jul 2018 11:43:37
Recovering mate. Had a heart ops recently.
Changes my perspective of this world.
Starting to tick off bucket list 😉🤣. Visiting OT is one major item😃. Life has suddenly look fragile and short but yet we all bicker about the smallest of things.
But well if the world is too smooth it would be boring isn’t it? 🤣🤣
Testing my faith and life outlook.

{Ed001's Note - glad to hear you are recovering. Make the most of life while you have it mate! It is all about how well you live what you have sometimes.}

22 Jul 2018 13:50:23
666 if you are planning a visit to OT. Take a short hop to ireland too. Welcome to stay with me and family. Glad to hear you are recovering. It does put things into perspective when it happens to you.

22 Jul 2018 17:16:23
Sure will Ken. Thanks
Will be in touch nearer that time. Always wanted to drink the ales in Ireland that I’ve heard so much off.