Manchester United Banter Archive June 22 2013

 

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22 Jun 2013 21:32:15
Liverpool fan here in peace. I was just wondering what has happened to the lad you brought from Crewe Alexandra last year, can't remember his name off the top of my head. I seem to remember he scored a decent goal against Wigan and was just wondering what has happened to him since as I haven't heard much of him since then. He was highly-rated at Crewe, is he still rated at Utd?

Looking forward to beating you early on next season ;)

NotInTheKnow

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Nick Powell he hasn't had much of a chance yet let's hope he gets some games this season

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Nick Powell,

I expected him to feature quite heavily last season. but he's spent it playing with the U21, he's extremely highly rated I would expect to see him more this season along with Zaha.

He had a big of a groin problem this season that he couldn't shake off but he should be fine come August.

Are you? that's nice.

I'm looking forward to seeing you struggle against Hull.

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Well Powell was of often travelling with the 1st team squad and usually on the bench just SAF seemed reluctant to put him on! He did very well in the under 21s but around the time we secured the title he had an operation (groin I think) and is due back for pre season!

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Nick Powel is the name. Been playing in reserves and scored on his debut for the senior team, but he has had a bumpy season. I believe he went on loan for a little while but injury ended his season. We will see more of him this season in the cup and maybe a loan.

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Nick powell and yes he's still very highly rated by us, he would have probably played another half dozen games if it hadn't been for injury, I can probably see him going on loan next season hopefully to a premier league club then push for the 1st team squad with us the season after.

phil

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L, pool fan in peace if this kid really knuckles down then he will become a fantastic player great balance 2 good feet plays with head up (natural) potentially a star
Dylan

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Cleverley will not be sent on loan

Kuala

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Top talent but a little unlucky with injuries last season, I have high hopes though. I think a good loan spell would do him the world of good.

HB

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22 Jun 2013 21:18:44
These are the players expected at United by me

INS
Garay
Baines
Strootman
Thiago
Di Maria

Outs
Nani
Anderson
Cleverly {loan}
Macheda
Evra
Bebe
Rooney

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21 Jun 2013 13:28:04
Top site Ed's I have a question for the board about the reserves/youth teams, do we have any wingers in there that are showing the promise of stepping up? Are there any in there that could feature this coming season?

Rewz

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I'd like to think Larnell cole may get some game time and if he does well at under 21 daehli could get some games in the cup? Also expect januzaj to feature next season!

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Best bet to emerge is Januzaj but he'd be more likely to feature as an inside winger or AM than a traditional winger. Not ready for regular 1st team action though, maybe a few cameos.

HB

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22 Jun 2013 19:47:50
Just one mid season thought. All this money that Moyes appears to have access to, IF Fergie would have been given similar funding 3 - 4 years ago then perhaps he'd have nailed the other Champs League that he coveted.

I hope Moyes gets these big names but our biggest challenge next season will be how United adapt to him and vice versa. Interesting times ahead.

Busby 58

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I have never looked forward to a season quiet so much. It is going to be fascinating given that all of the best 3 sides in the country have new managers. A Chelsea team with Mourinho charge is a worry, but it will be a brilliantly entertaining season.

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What big money? if we sign Strootman and Thiago and that's a big if so far they'd only cost the same as most Fergie signings of the last 3-4 years.

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22 Jun 2013 18:50:54
I think the thiago deal has stalled,
and we will not sign him.
really dissapointed with this!!

Isco I hope picks real madrid as he is going to be a handful for any team to stop

Really looking forward to see what happens when moyes officially starts see if he begins with a marquee signing

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I think so too mate. gota bad feeling about the thiago deal. gutted because that was the one I was hoping for. think barca ar gona pull out all the stops to keep him. I see a new 5year deal being signed to keep him ther

vinny

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You "think" the Thiago deal has stalled? Based on what?

Your negativity?

Sydney!

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Why do you think its stalled?just because some people thought it might be concluded by the end of the weekend?have some patience, there's no way barca are going to give him up easily, these things take time.

phil

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Syd based on graham hunter and all the conflicting reports, no one really nos what is happening but Manchester United get things done quickly and they don't normally mess around like this!

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Big v thinking something negative, I don't believe it.

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22 Jun 2013 18:49:53
Rooney to arsenal, but utd want Ramsey plus cash.

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Another dillusional post Ramsey is not Unted quality so stop posting rubbish
ARB

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Ramsey is rubbish, straight swap for Wilshere though and I would bite off their hand.

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22 Jun 2013 21:46:02
You've got Cleverley and you're calling Ramsey rubbish! I guess you think Walcott is cr4p compared to Welbeck too.

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Lol no name romancing ramsey is anygood

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Well welbeck is better than Walcott? The only thing Walcott has on welbeck is finishing. At least Danny doesn't whine when he plays on the wing.

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23 Jun 2013 09:14:03
I appreciate Walcott isn't the best thing since sliced bread but the best you can come up with is Welbeck doesn't whine.

Have a word with yourself, every man and his dog knows Welbeck and Cleverley are pants!

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Has to be the most stupid statement I've ever read the only thing Walcott is better at is finishing, is that not what attackers get paid for.
Stagmufc

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22 Jun 2013 18:14:31
Anyone got any info on any transfers other than Thiago. My opinion on that one is that we can all stop worrying about it, just a matter of time.

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I expect it will happen, we just have to wait for the loose ends to be tied up. If personal terms have been agreed then I think that is the hard part over.

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*sigh*. Why do peole think Thiago is a done deal. And Strootman apparently. The press and radio are full of conflicting rumours and speculation and whilst it isn't exciting or fun, I think we have to just wait and see what happens. Take Rooney for example. He is staying, he is going, he is going to Chelsea, Real Madrid, PSG, Arsenal. Let's be honest, nobody actually knows what is going on. I'm sure there are conversations going on all over the place but not every conversation leads to a deal. It is frustrating to hear people talking of 'a done deal' or 'as good as signed' when none of us know

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Barca making a last ditch effort to convince him to stay.

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Chelsea are the biggest threat to a Thiago deal if he chooses to leave Barcelona.

Sydney!

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Really Syd with the amount of Midfielders they have? very unlikely I suppose if Essien Mikel and Romeu left it could become more likely

MANRED

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Essien won't play as much a bit injury prone and Mikkel is supposed to be going to Gala. Add to that Lampard is a bit older and Romeu isn't that good it leaves them with Ramires and? Hence why the waiter pushed Luise into midfield.

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Why are chelsea the biggest threat? seems clear cut to me. united or stay at barca don't think chelsea enter the equation

vinny

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According to the chelsea page chelsea are not interested syd according to the edds and they its us or bayern or he stays or city might make a 11th hour

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I wouldn't think he'd want to play under Mourinho, it is like a Utd player to leave and play under Mancini's next team.

Ste.

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Well Essien & Mikel will leave so there will certainly be room for Thiago and perhaps Khedira. However if he decides to leave I would hope the chance of replacing Paul Scholes would be enough to convince him to make the correct move for his career. I may be being biased, but I do genuinely believe MU would be the right move for him.

Sydney!

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Essien to leave, didn't mourinho take him on loan to real and play him regularly, or does that not make your argument work sydley, just saying ;-)

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Syd

I am not sure where you come up with this stuff. He will either stay or end up at united.

Shahram

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22 Jun 2013 18:14:24
I know its off topic but i'd like to say well done to the Welsh Lions on beating Australia.

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Hi our Irish lads didn't let us down!

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23 Jun 2013 00:16:04
True they didn't. But that was more meant as a dig at the others ;)

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The Lions didn't win. The Wallabies lost. Something like 16 points missed off the boot! Won't happen next week.

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22 Jun 2013 18:06:02
eds, if you have anytime could you possibly update us on the ronaldo rumours? seems to have gone cold in the past week.

thanks.

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22 Jun 2013 17:57:51
Eds, one for the banter page.

Just a thought for everyone. When it comes to potential transfers do you think no news = good news? I only ask because there are now several press reports about Thiago, but nothing from either club or the player himself. Should we consider this confirmation that things are moving along nicely or is it that there is nothing for them to discuss?

Matt

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22 Jun 2013 17:21:45
I am really hoping a deal is completed soon by the club, we really need to tie up some loose ends. I think the Thiago and Strootman deals are nearing completion, however we are probably taking a while over the detail. In terms of Thiago, I would be happy to give Barcelona first refusal, but they should not be given a release clause, no way, unless it was over £50 million. After the completion of deals for Thiago and Strootman we will finalise Gaitan and then go looking for Baines. Still hoping for Bale / Ronaldo / Lewandowski.

So that could be a summer of Baines, Strootman, Thiago, Gaitan & Bale/Ronaldo/Lewandowski.

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Really? Not sure where you're getting that from, I'm not expecting such an extravagant summer sadly!

HB

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22 Jun 2013 17:11:59
This site although it's still pretty good, looses so much when the Eds go on strike. It's a joke that they get abused, usually by no namers. So to anyone using these sites show these guys some respect. They answer a huge amount of questions every day using their inside knowledge and are a lot more accurate then any of the papers, so if you disagree with them that's fine. Just don't be rude or sarcastic because they are doing us a favour!

Red Joe

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Agree totally
manners cost nothing and are easily carried, just because someone disagrees with you doesn't give anybody the right to abuse them.

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Hi, I Can understand the situation that Eds are in. I am a programmer and skilled in the language in which this website is built on. I can offer a code snippet that will not allow unregistered users to post on website. Also I can create a filter that will not post any abuse and will block it automatically.

Being a united fan I can do this on free, if the Eds and website team are interested.

ProgrammerFan.

{Ed033's Note - Cool, please send it through the contact form if it's free and advert free and without any strings attached.

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22 Jun 2013 16:03:40
Michael Carrick's tweet a few hours ago: "Few shouts for Antonio Valencia, could see him with the 14 on his back, he'd eat em up #monsterathlete"
So I guess Valencia's wearing the #14 shirt next season, which means Chicharito gets the #9
Here's me hoping for an apt replacement for #7
Please anybody but Zaha. Someone from the outside.
Fingers crossed.

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He's on about the rugby, 14 in rugby is the wingers number, he saying Valencia would make a good rugby player.

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22 Jun 2013 16:24:46
He was watching the Lions tour game. He's comparing Tony to a Rugby Union winger who wear shirt numbers 11 and 14.

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Thanks. Should have mentioned it though. After all those rumors about #7 Valencia not getting printed and all.

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This is possibly the worst misreading of any tweet ever. It doesn't even make sense!

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22 Jun 2013 15:46:57
Eds do you think we will sign baines, strootman and thiago before 1st of july

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The eds are on a strike due to some people's ungrateful comments towards them. Don't expect any info frm any eds especially ed002 for at least a few days. T45

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22 Jun 2013 15:45:18
It is time that teams and fans start to realize that English players are s***. Many teams have already realized this and this shows in their transfers. I'm not talking about defenders or goalkeepers but about midfielders and attacking players. It shows in their national team how bad they are when there is just no creativity even against weaker teams.
Right now I would consider the Belgium team is much better than the English. Buying a mediocre midfielder from Spain or Germany for low price is better than buying an overpriced English talent. They just lack the cutting edge, don't know why. Maybe they are not coached well enough when they are young.

Chaman

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Most of the continent (definately in spain) are able to coach kids all day 9-5 with breaks. By law I think in our country we can only coach kids 1. 5 to 2 hours per day even at academy's. this is where a lot of the current difference is. They need to change the law. There are players like Wilshere and bale who breakthrough but not the talent we've had previously in the home nations. Added to the fact that more kids hang out drinking, smoking drugs and staying up all night on a games console it's going to take a while to change. But they need to start with the law first.

Supasub

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I agree,

luckily for me I'm of Spanish origin so everything for me is quite nice when it comes to football.

Although you can see English players seem 'lazy' the second they get the chance to win a game.

In fact the only BRITISH player who seems to enjoy scoring goals right now is Jordan Rhodes. - If this lad had chosen to play for England then things would be going a little better for the national team.

He's probably the only British forward I would ever have at United.

the gulf in class really shows itself from U21 upwards, the U19 is mainly reserve and youth players but the U21s are mainly mediocre football league players.

I mean would you rather have Thiago, Obiang and Illarramendi or would you rather have Henderson, Lansbury and Jonjo Shelvey.

for me, the bigger clubs such as United, Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Everton, Liverpool, Spurs, etc. need to showcase a few more younger ENGLISH players in the squads, for United players like the Keane twins should be featured on the bench against lower end teams and get starts against sides such in the football league.

Barcelona handed debuts to players like Tello, Jonathon Dos Santos, Thiago, Bojan, Giovanni Dos Santos, Messi, etc. at young ages and slowly bled them into the squad and the first team way of life.

I'm not saying play young players all the time but have them with the first team more often, have them on the bench more often, etc.

I mean what does Anderson offer that Powell doesn't? what about Zaha, Will Keane, Michael Keane, etc.

IMO that would make a huge difference.

I'd also point out that a lot of mid-lower league EPL clubs drive huge fees for players meaning they never actually get the chance to step up, for example Will Hughes at Derby - he's a teenager commanding a fee of at least £8M, let him go for a reasonable £1M-£2M and let the player develop instead of putting his career at risk for their own financial gain.

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22 Jun 2013 16:44:18
Moon I get your point but its easier for Barcelona. Firstly they can spend more time on the coaching side of things which gives them a massive advantage. We're handicapped by the law. If things like that were evened out it would be a help. Secondly because the Spanish league isn't as competitive Barcelona can give more opportunities to younger players. Their guaranteed a top two finish every season and apart from games against what four or five teams don't even break sweat most games. Compared to the English league which is more competitive its more risky to play inexperienced players as everyone is trying to win.

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No name -

I do agree with you mate but English clubs don't even bother anymore.

swap out Anderson for Powell, Zaha for Nani and you probably won't see a difference in results.

United to brilliantly well with their academy if you look at the league but I do think a lot of the reason why British players don't succeed is because British players don't really have any self confidence.

I mean look at the difference between players like Alcacer of Valencia and a young british forward like Connor Wickham. Alcacer believes he's destined for the top of football whereas Wickham believes he's doing great as he is.

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22 Jun 2013 17:45:32
Moon english clubs are producing players. Inept coaching doesn't help. Pearce has to be one of the worst people in the world to be in charge of an international team at any level. Just look at the squad he picked. The afore mentioned shelvey and co but no Michael Keane who was the best defender his age in the championship. Yet calls up Nathan Redmond who had an average season in the same league. I think Pearce has a bias against United never seems to call them up unless its a player he just can't ignore like Jones or Smalling.

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22 Jun 2013 17:51:38
Jordan Rhodes isn't good enough for United or England. Nowhere near.

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Moon, you make some good points!
I'd probably make some further points, Young lads today earn mega money compared to the average wages of everyone else. Connor Wickham is doing fine financially I guess, but development wise the lad has gone backwards.
Another decent reason is a distinct lack of desire,, especially where England are concerned the emphasis is on celebrity and earnings! Instead of prestige and honor!
Again meaningful matches outside the first team are lacking, I love the barca and real method of b-teams in which fringe and young players have a showcase, pity it would be impossible to implement here!
Just my thoughts, I pretty much agree with you moon
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No name 1 - Coaching can't be the only thing to blame.

admittedly coaches like Stuart Pearce aren't helping the cause but he can't be to blame for the lack of English players. to which there are a lack.

Redmond was only called up because Zaha and Ince couldn't play the opening games.

Personally I think the coaches in this country are actually half decent. Spanish youth coaches aren't exactly setting the world alight, what it comes down to is simply natural talent.

In England we have a lack of talent because once a player is in a first team at ANY club they think they can rest easy because they're on £1-4K Per week.

When players in Spain, Italy and especially Holland are on £500 P/W wages and are looking to be the best in the world.

No name 2 -

Well firstly Rhodes is better than Welbeck, Sturridge, Holt, Lambert, etc.

secondly, I would personally LOVE him at United, having him Hernandez & RVP will Guarantee at least 15 goals a season from each forward.

Thirdly, He's Scottish so it's a pointless conversation.

Karlmarx -

Interesting name, the guys a genius.
You're spot on, being a footballer used to be about pride, being able to play for ENGLAND! and play in the biggest league, now though, its more about how many sponsorship deals the player can get.

I have an Engineer in my studio who's Nephew is Max Clayton, the talented Crewe youngster, but he says that Max will go to which ever club offers him the biggest wage or potential of the biggest wage.

The British attitude right there.

I think Footballers in this country are 100% a product of their environment.

I grew up on the outskirts of Madrid and our life was NEVER about Money, it was about having fun and enjoying life. I came to England when I was young and the first thing you notice is that everything is about getting money.

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Moon

You are spot on. English players are overrated by a large margin and their international results show it.

I think the hype around the young english guys like Zaha as an example is way overblown and the likely hood of him turning out like a Ashley young is much higher than him being any better.

I watch a lot of football due to my addiction to gambling and betting and some of the younger spanish/ portuguese/dutch/Italian players that play in those domestic leagues are very good and they go for very little money domestically, however take the same player and if he is english and playing in league one, the hype is complete rubbish and the fees are astronomical.

Shahram

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22 Jun 2013 15:27:08
IF we sign Thiago, Strootman and Garay what's looking likely to happen, I'm hoping for a 'Big name signing' like Lewandowski, Bale, Ronaldo. Last night Sly Italy reported that we was preparing a bid for Bale to test Spurs' asking price hope it's true. A summer of Thiago, Strootman, Garay, Lewandowski and Bale would be a perfect summer in my eyes.

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22 Jun 2013 14:52:31
ive heard chelski are after varane from madrid to my annoyance, now I hear kurt zouma is in there sights, two of UTD's prime previous transfer targets!! talking of our defence it needs something extra, I just really hope something is planned? anyone heard anything?

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22 Jun 2013 15:27:58
Why would Varane leave Madrid for Chelsea and why would Madrid sell him? Though Zouma was off to Russia.

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I think if we believe reports. gental man agreement with benfica about garay for 17m is there so club is thinking abt it. and hw many defenders we want? we have 2 best yougn cb already with m. keane comming on well as well.

rodio17

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Chelsea is not big enough to get Varrane from Real Madrid. Besides he will not want to go and Madrid is not selling.

Shahram

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22 Jun 2013 14:40:08
Apparently Manchester United and bayern Munich have both triggerd thiagos release clause. And it's up to him to decide

Marm

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22 Jun 2013 16:14:50
If he's got an ounce of sense he'll be going to Bayern then

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So he can less games than he does at Barcelona, when he wants to leave to play more games.

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I tend to agree who would you rather play for pep or moyes?

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These no names are some piece of work. Scousers by any chance LOL.

Shahram

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22 Jun 2013 14:18:31
I have to question out scouting network why are we not taking a look in the Brazilian market? Players like Paulinho Hernanes are available to buy well looks like Paulinho is off to Spurs but Hernanes is a fantastic player it seems everyone else picks up cheap gems from abroad and we seem not to.

RED91

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Are you kidding?

Hernandez, vidic, evra to name 3.

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Hernandez. Both the Silva twins. and we're after Thiago which will be a far better 'gem' then Paulinho if it happens.

Red Joe

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I would consider Thiago a cheap gem

Ste.

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Hernandez? I'd say that was a pretty good deal.
Rafael, Fabio.

Supasub

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Yeah because they'r Brazilian.

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Oh and i'd consider Kagawa a cheap gem as well

Red Joe

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Simply because there are always worries about how they'll adopt to the new league but more importantly the new lifestyle.

in all fairness we tend to do alright with Brazilian players.

Anderson still shows glimpses of a great player. Fabio and Rafael are both likely to succeed as professional footballers.

Then you have Kleberson, he showed so much promise until the injury and he was never the same after that.

The less said about Possebon the better.

so, okay only maybe Rafael and at a push Fabio have been success stories.

so all in all, we don't have much success with Brazil for whatever reason, so we look to places like Mexico and Chile - smaller countries with just as much talent.

However, if the right player was spotted in Brazil make no mistake I think he'd be targeted.

although I would rather have Strootman than Paulinho for example.

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RED, there has also been a lot of young brazilian talents that have flopped.

Ozwald

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Hopefully Bruno Gomez will silence the Brazil supporting united fans.

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22 Jun 2013 13:39:14
Good call on the Club Captains book MrE. We have had 20 club captains since the war and for me it has to be Bryan Robson. Though I started with Buchan I remember the 80s when Robbo carried the club and country through a decade. As for a one off game I don't think Keane's game against Juventus in Turin knowing that he will miss the final will ever be beaten. I recommend to everyone to read the book and learn why each manager selected his own club captains.

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22 Jun 2013 13:29:51
Red91, I didn't see the post my friend.

Did he say who met him after a match?

That is kind of important. Does anyone know?

Sydney!

Not sure Ed02 said that after the game Thiago was fortunate to meet some important people can't remember the rest of the post but I don't think he meant anyone from City or United, I think Ed may have meant Roman Abramhovic as it was reported he was in israel watching the final not sure if it means he spoke with him regarding a transfer or just generally met him


Manred

Roman Abramovich Syd but not sure if it was anything to do with a transfer


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Supposedly abramovich

MLG

It was Roman I think Sydney!

REDFAITH

Makes sence now ED was saying a barca may offer thiago plus cash for a player maybe that player is David Luiz hopefully Thiago sees sence and notices he won't even get much playing time at Chelsea if indeed he did meet Roman.

Salford red

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22 Jun 2013 13:13:40
If agreeing personal terms is true, then we are halfway there. I said last summer that we need to pay what it takes to get the correct players and if that means paying a little more than we think we will need to pay to get the deal done quicker, then do it. If Barcelona was £18m and the clause says £15m, just give Barcelona the £18m. £18m for Thiago is still a bargain and he will transform our midfield. Lose out on Thiago to another rival and where will that leave us confidence-wise? Pay Barcelona what they want and get the deal done.

Sydney!


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Can't be more in agreement with this. I think playing hardball in this particular scenario would end up with us having egg on our faces. There have been an instance or two where we have been guilty of this. I would even say 25 million for Thiago would be a bargain. We cannot miss out on this one. I hope we are not making things difficult on this front. Then there is the income/expense tax thing to buy a contract. I wish these things were less complicated. It will be annoying if we miss out on Alcantara.

Deeps.

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Wait am I missing something if the clause says 15mil then there is no negotiating with Barca needed inly negotiating with thiago is required. I thought that's what clauses are for?
Ed004 can you help clear this issue, what's the point of a clause if we still have to negotiate with the club?thanks

Sulei {Ed004's Note - I'm not sure Ed 2 is the genius when it comes to clauses but they aren't as simplistic as they sound}

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Apparently there are two theories to what the hold up is.

1) Pay structure, the way we will pay for him. Surely on this occasion we should pay ALL cash upfront?

2) Barcelona want a buyback clause installed in the deal. This is obviously something we wouldn't want, but Barcelona will insist on.

Or it could be both. Sadly due to a few boneheads on this page we cannot ask Ed002 for some info.

Sydney!

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Sydney

We have dropped out of deals before and it is only our, the supporters, confidence that is impacted not the clubs. I don't think the owners will care about what we think.

My feeling is that Barca are pulling on his heart strings trying to use his emotional attachment to keep him. However, I don't think they helped themselves by handing Thiago's shirt number to Neymar but still they seem to want him to stay. What we don't know is whether there was and whether they kept to a verbal agreement as to how they would treat him which in addition to the contract may have angered him. It is interesting that they had such a clause in his contract as at the time of writing it to put it in, he and his father must clearly have been concerned Barca were not going to give him playing time and the punishment is the low fee. Barca have brought the situation on themselves and I hope he is angry enough with them to leave and not want to go back because we would not want Barca trying to re sign him to replace Xavi in two years.

I understand our new manager is in on Monday and perhaps that is what they are waiting for rather than the player being as yet undecided. I doubt this will be monetary as contracts written professionally are usually pretty clear and if the release clause is set then that is what it is. Hopefully Thiago will see there is a very clear vacant position in our midfield far more than the others competing for his signature. Finally I spoke to someone about the alleged arrival at the airport and separate to this site they believe there was credence to that rumour. I have a feeling we may know more by Monday afternoon

Red Man

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Syd there is also the matter of dealing with Barca directly and paying tax on it or paying Thiago to buy the contract. Atleast this is what I have heard, as you said because of a few knobs we can't ask ed 002 about this. Barca would want him back in 3 years time and would want him cheap. We are certainly not one of those clubs who would be comfortable with a buy back clause?

Deeps.

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Red Man, a lot of sources have said talks between MU and Barcelona have been going on all week and will continue into this weekend. I hope we have a decision by Sunday night, however if it is close to being agreed I imagine Moyes will want to break the news via a press conference, which will inevitably take place Monday afternoon like you said. Fingers crossed.

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I thought Moyes starts 1st July Sydney?

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Moyes started weeks ago Patzi, he has been on his holidays.

Sydney!

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Thanks for the info Red Man. Appreciated! Hope its some good signing.

REDFAITH

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22 Jun 2013 11:21:34
What a load off bull. Making all Manchester United fans suffer a the expense of some mindless persons? Eds, for goodness sake, you monitor all the posts before you post them anyway so with all due respect you can't dictate what the world will say and you have to be open for some negative opinions. People like myself post decent, in line rumours from fairly reliable people and these some of the time don't even get posted?! How can you say that fans like myself will suffer because of other people we don't even know?
This is low Eds, really low and a little bit immature. I appreciate the site and the occasional comments you guys make but if you don't enjoy it then don't bother, its that simple. But my advice is don't let the minority get to you, because this stance makes you look weak.
Im not going to sit here and brown nose because its pathetic, and I don't expect for that reason for this post not to make it onto the page either. i'm a big fan, but you need to re-think your approach here, not happy.
PJ

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Here here

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22 Jun 2013 12:21:21
Not the smartest reply there PJ. The Eds to a fantastic job running the site and they do it for our enjoyment. What they don't have to accept is abusive replies from dim witted plebs. Which is what the the Eds take issue with, and I back their stance completely.

Unfortunately its always the minority who make the majority suffer.

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Oh for god sake pj you sound like a 12 year old, shut up moaning.

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Hmmm, not going to be as harsh as this PJ. But get your point.
Are the eds never going to give an opinion again? I think they will. Slightly childish this 'strike'. And stroking egos with all this 'pleeeeease ed, love you, ' blah blah is really cringe worthy.
I too only get half my posts published, and get a little frustrated at some of the drivel that is 'superior' enough for publishing. But hey I am bias towards myself. lol. (I suspect a blank on this. )

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PJ - grow up and have some respect. I thought about writing a lengthy response but the simple reply is why come on this site if you're that arsed? I probabably speak for everyone in saying 'jog on you pr*ck'

Adz

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The way I see it is that yeah the Eds should be thick skinned enough to take criticism and the odd bit of abuse.

However, this isn't just a one off thing, take a look around other sites, the Arsenal page being an example.

I don't blame the eds for the stance they take what I will say however is that by taking this course of action they are giving the trolls exactly what they want.

I think if they were to say, "yeah, okay mate" it would have a much greater effect than not giving opinions or answering questions.

that said, as much I Value the eds work and opinion I come on here for the banter and rumours, now as long as they're still here I will be too. regardless of whether the Eds decide to comment or not.

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22 Jun 2013 11:10:31
22 Jun 2013 01:44:29
BOOKIES were hit by a betting frenzy on England ace Wayne Rooney quitting Man United for Real Madrid yesterday.
The odds on Wazza heading to Spain were slashed from 40/1 to 5/1 after a flurry of large bets.
The move prompted rumours Rooney may be offered by United to Madrid as part of a deal to re-sign Portuguese superstar Cristiano Ronaldo.

Early'b"""
dear mr early'b
ngiak would like to ask you an honest question
are you the Manchester United branch of the betting houses?
ngiak can almost confirm that this whole scenario
has been created by the bookies to create revenue
aided by the gossip sites and the cheap papers
lots of people are wasting their money
as there are no indications that such a thing is happening as of this moment
ngiak is truly amazed by the human need to gamble and the ingenuity of those who reap from this
gan

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Cracks me up people betting on who going where such a sad world betting is now days do people need money that bad its a mugs game no wonder so many people are in debt nowdays

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In fairness gan grahem hunter has confirmed that real may be interested.

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22 Jun 2013 11:05:49
I for one like to thank the eds for their hard work, especially ed002. I am sorry that some people try and spoil what is a light hearted rumour site.

I do not know if the eds are making up their rumours but they are a damn lot more realistic and interesting to read than most of the other posts on here.

That said the Thiago situation has similarities with us and Pogba. Hopefully it ends with him leaving to join us, class player.

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22 Jun 2013 11:03:01
I'd seen some abuse on the Arsenal and Liverpool pages but we seemed to have escaped it. Sadly not. Whether we like it or not, every team has muppet fans with IQs in single figures. Not sure how it gets solved. Is it not as idle as deleting and ignoring the posts. The knobs will surely tire of sending in nonsense that doesn't get posted or acknowledged?

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I don't get why people resort to abuse. It is simple, no one is forcing you to type the URL for the website and check stuff. If you find the eds or the website unreliable, you can happily bugger off. You are not even paying to see the site. Its frankly so stupid. Honestly I visit the website to have a look as to what other United fans think on different topics. Rarely would I tune in to see who we are signing. If that happens, its more like a bonus. I hope some of the tools on here wise up.

Deeps.

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Couldnt agree more with both of u. I just think eds need to ignore the minority that is causing disruption s for all of us. I love the site and love eds input.

Singh

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22 Jun 2013 11:00:02
Hmm, Rooney for Mata, now there's a thought

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In a heartbeat

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Half a heartbeat.

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22 Jun 2013 10:50:48
Shocking that the eds are getting abuse from persons. Frankly people need to realise who is doing who a favour. Without the eds there'd be no rumour site.

If Rooney wants out, we should use it to our advantage & use him as a bargaining tool.

If Arsenal- Exchange Corzola
If PSG- Exchange Verratti
If Barca- Exchange Fabregas
(Tiago already bagged hopefully)
If Chelsea- Exchange Mata or Hazard
And the best til last
If Real Madrid- Exchange Ronnie.

If any of the deals don't come off for various reasons then none of them go through & he stays.

Mad Dog

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Ed002/4
This is a banter site sorry to hear your taking some stick.
We take ourselves to serious sometimes.
Keep up the good work
Put it down to boredom this game takes some fearful stick from pundits but we don't half miss it (rugby union& Wimbledon)f--- all to debate apart from gossip
Don't let them get you down
Dylan

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Carzorla!? No chance, Rooneys miles ahead of him. Even in an off season dragging flab around all year.

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You must be on weed then Patzi. Rooney miles ahead of Cazorla? Not heard anything more ridiculous in a while! And I am Utd fan. Being biased is one thing, being blind is another. Cazorla had a amazing season, and that is because he is class. Rooney was below average, he's good, but he's no Cazorla. Learn to appreciate others once in a while!

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Agreed Patzi, he is miles better, but who else from there, really? Wiltshire? That's about it.

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If Rooney was Spanish he would walk into the national team, whereas Cazorla can't get a look in.

Ste.

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Cazorla had a fantastic season? No chance. He had a few good games. Rooney is miles better.
Nomidfield

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No name your clearly on the wrong page, enjoy yet another season of no silverware.
I agree with the wilshere suggestion, though that too could be debated. But Cazorla!! I'd say there some hallucinogen being consumed, let alone weed.

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22 Jun 2013 10:20:20
i didn't think we had a chance to get thiago but its startin to look good
hope we get strootman

startin to look exciting

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22 Jun 2013 10:12:49
How sad is it that a select few posters abuse the eds, they give up there time to keep our little community going and a few imbeciles can't act in a adult manner, if u dnt like their opinions DNT ASK! Or even better leave the site untill u can in a responsible manner!
Hope to see u again soon eds ure work is very much appreciated by most on here.
Chris the REDman

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I think the site needs to be converted to an 'Account only website'. Therefore if you want to post on the page or speak to one of the Ed's you must register an account with a new email for each account, I bet that would remove atleast 70% of all the trolls on this site.

Very unfortunate to be honest as I bet all of us appreciate the effort the Ed's make towards the site and a selective few have spoiled for us all.

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We are all united fans trying to get a bit of banter and rumours going. The eds make that happen, so why does anyone feel the need to abuse them? This is ridiculous. Let's get back to banter and rumours and enjoy the site.
Abusing eds is not right and is rude, so cut it out please guys.
Nomidfield

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22 Jun 2013 09:50:42
If we do get Thiago I believe we will have the best midfielld in the league.

Carrick Thiago
Kagawa

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Toure Fernandinho/Barry
Silva/Isco
And,
Ramires Lampard
Mata.

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Bit over the top mate in Europe would get hammered

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Who mentioned Europe mate I stated the league

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Don't know about best cause chelsea and city are still vey good but surly a huge improvement from what we have. we still need another midfielder Verrati or Marchisio would be great.

Shahram

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Errr, I believe it would be up there. Strootman, Carrick, Thiago and Kagawa. When they gel, I can only imagine beauty in both attack and defence. Kagawa and Thiago will hypnotise defences with free flowing movements, being picked out by Carrick. Then Strootmans to burst straight through the huge gaps to pick out RVP etc. My boys, this should not be underrated.
It would be 1 of our greatest teams IMO. Watch this space.
(Please note, no mention Rooney or replacement either ;D)

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We didn't have thiago last season but did we get hammered in Europe?

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Shahram, Thiago would be instead of Marchisio or Veratti. If we are to buy two midfielders, one will be creative and the other will be in the form of Strootman. A ball winner, an enforcer. I do not think either Veratti or Marchisio are possible, we certainly wouldn't want either in addition to Thiago.

Although I do like Veratti. Quality player.

Sydney!

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22 Jun 2013 09:47:41
Is there any update on Thiago? I have just read something that Barca want to keep him and are willing to let him leave on loan. Thanks

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22 Jun 2013 09:30:49
Some news.
United have inquired about mata availability.

Rodio17

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22 Jun 2013 09:29:34
The boss is back from his hols next week, so will meet our new signs and Rooney before anything is made public.

On the 28th (Thigo+Strootman) & 1st (Others) signings will be revealed and they are as follows:

Thaigo
Strootman
Banies
Ronaldo (with Rooney & 30 million going to Madrid)

MakeAWish

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Glad you have clarified. Incidentally are you off your meds today?

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Ironic is name is Make a Wish
DHK

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Nurse, he's out of bed again!
RedSince68

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He on something lol I won't some

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I hope you are right even though it sounds crazy with the Ronaldo part, that would be the best summer we have had in years. I still think Rooney is a gone and we are working on moving him.

Shahram

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Little harsh guys, he is merely pointing out what the papers and certain sites are saying (albeit a trash site involved). Although Baines talk has diminished slightly, replaced with talk of Shaw and Coentrao.

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22 Jun 2013 08:37:49
Hey guys, reading a few comments here about Barca wanting buy back clause etc. and that we are still negotiating with Barca. I thought the point of a release clause is that selling club don't have the option of saying "no way" - that they don't negotiating power? So does the stories that Barca are trying to negotiate a buy back price and so on indicate that we haven't actually met that release clause yet? I hope this doesn't open the door for some other team to swoop in ahead of us.

BennyBlanco

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I heard that barca ar resigned to losing thiago and are now apparantly trying to broker a deal that us less than the release clause but has a buy back clause in it, utd supposed to be just offering 1st refusal if the decide to sell him. not sure how accurate just wot I heard

vinny

ps great job eds don't let the nuggets ruin it

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Hope its not a buy back clause. I was gutted when United lost Pique, I know he wanted to leave but felt we lost a quality player. Hope if we get thiago that there is no other clauses in his contract.
James

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22 Jun 2013 08:08:23
Might not be as straight forward as we thought with thiago. Bayern Munich could throw a spanner in the works. Fingers crossed he comes to us. Think the chance of more playing time with us could prove significant. We can compete wage wise also. Any one else heard anything new? Love this site especially in closed season ha

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22 Jun 2013 07:45:50
Anyone who posted care to elaborate on the dead cert announcement that is definitely coming out of OT. Oh. Yesterday. (Friday)

Red5

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22 Jun 2013 05:45:33
Hello all you Manchester United supporters. What would be your feelings on losing Rooney this summer to Arsenal or are you a bit like some people and reckon he is over rated anyway so maybe it's a relief to get rid of him while you can and how much would you say he was worth. Thanks.

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The guy isn't overrated but he is unfit and nowhere near the player he was. Everyone on this page knows the qualities of a fully fit Rooney but we seem to be divided into 3 groups; those that think he won't regain the fitness and form required, those that think he will and those that think a half fit Rooney still does enough to warrant a place (although the latter is a minority). Personally I would love nothing more than to see a return of the 2009/10 Rooney but, taking into account the length of his remaining contract and the money he earns, I think it may be too large of a risk. That being said, if we can't sign a Ronaldo or Lewandowski etc to replace him then there is no logic in selling him for the sake of it unless we are offered silly money, which we won't be.

TK-Red

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If we were to sign Lew and Thiago this summer, I wouldn't worry where Rooney went. He will never regain his 2009/10 form/fitness, but he still is a top player. The question is whether he is worth his salary when he isn't first choice in the side. If we were to sign Lew then Rooney would not be first choice. If we were to sign Thiago & Strootman then there would be no place for him in midfield. If we were to sign a left winger like Di Maria, then Rooney wouldn't feature on the left wing. He would be too expensive to keep as a squad player and he wouldn't be happy to be a squad player. For me, our purchases will determine whether or not we keep Rooney. IMO the club will be happy to sell Rooney if the club got all of their primary targets this summer.

Sydney!

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Wait a while to see what attitude he has towards Moyes new fitness training regime. If he doesn't buck up his ideas £35 Million job done. That fee and Rooney's wages should cover Lewandowski and Cabaye in my opinion

ALDUtd

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22 Jun 2013 05:30:24
Hope the eds are back on again soon. This Is a top site and I love the banter us united fans have for each other. And the eds give us there best inside knowledge, so wish people wouldn't spoil it for ever1 else but you always get 1

Marm

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22 Jun 2013 05:18:10
Good mrng. lads!
Manchester United are to renew their interest in Robert Lewandowski should their efforts to re-sign Cristiano Ronaldo fail. David Moyes is keen to bring the Portuguese back to Old Trafford but is eyeing Lewandowski as an alternative.

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22 Jun 2013 04:24:08
Rumours that the saints are close to agreeing a deal with Celtic for Wanyama with a fee being in the region of 11 million. Just passing on what I have heard. Do you guys think that figure is fair and should bigger teams not be trying harder for his signature?
I rate him and would love to see him at ot next season.
James

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22 Jun 2013 00:20:01
Manchester United have contacted Borussia Dortmund striker
Robert Lewandowski, 24, to ask to be kept aware of his
availability, as doubts grow about him moving to Bayern Munich
this summer. The Poland international is an alternative target if
Real Madrid forward Cristiano Ronaldo, 28, cannot be convinced to
return to Old Trafford.

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Andy?

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22 Jun 2013 01:44:29
BOOKIES were hit by a betting frenzy on England ace Wayne Rooney quitting Man United for Real Madrid yesterday.
The odds on Wazza heading to Spain were slashed from 40/1 to 5/1 after a flurry of large bets.
The move prompted rumours Rooney may be offered by United to Madrid as part of a deal to re-sign Portuguese superstar Cristiano Ronaldo.

Early'b

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22 Jun 2013 00:49:55
Again, not saying this is correct or anything but just stating for those of you without twitter.

According to Graham Hunter:
Barcelona could dispute the buy out clause reduction (regarding Thiago)

Anyone have any idea how they would go about doing this?

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I don't know about this kind of thing but, to me, it sounds like Barca have made a bit of a cock up with this clause and are now trying every angle to rectify that cock up. It kind of reminds me of the Phil Jones transfer, as someone looking from the outside.

TK-Red

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22 Jun 2013 00:49:44
Hi. Gooner here in peace. Strong rumours man u are to let rooney go arsenal in exchange for arsenals first refusal on fabregas which was part of sale deal. Man u have policy of not selling to english but arsenal stating will stay out ov thiago bidding too has swayed them. you may laugh at the stay out of thiago bidding war but arsenal have unofficial deal with barca for 1st refusal on each others players. Watch this space. Ty888

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Strange that because barca have sold a few decent players over the years and arsenal didn't get any, whoever told you that mate is pulling ure leg
Chris the REDman

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Lol you've been had Ty888

HB

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22 Jun 2013 00:18:19
Who are some potential players at the WC Under-20's?

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