Manchester United Banter Archive January 23 2018

23 Jan 2018 11:57:22
Ok much has been said about sanchez being given the iconic number 7 shirt as worn by best, Robson, Cantona, Beckham and ronaldo well the simple question is who is the best player to have worn that shirt?
For me although my heart says Best my head says Ronaldo. I still remember his debut against Bolton as a sub when in the space of 20 mins a 1 0 deficit became a 4 1 win. The goose stepping step overs and the dribbling ability left the crowd spellbound and we all new then that we were watching someone who would become something special.

23 Jan 2018 12:42:11
For United best.
Ronaldo moved up a level at Madrid.

{Ed007's Note - No Michael Owen?}

23 Jan 2018 12:44:48
Its hard to pick the best of them. All different players in different eras who left their mark.
Best was the first footballing superstar who cane to a club still rebuilding after Munich and helped to win that first European cup.
Robson carried us through an era when we were just a cup side but he drive us on as a captain should.
Eric was the catalyst for that first title in 26, the catalyst for the Fergie era league domination and inspired the class of 96.
Beckham was Mr showbiz. Scored some great goals.
Ronaldo was Ronaldo. As you say we witnessed something special.

Its hard to pick the best. In terms of talent and skill its between Best and Ronaldo. In terms if impact on the team it's Eric.

23 Jan 2018 12:47:31
MD7 all the way.

23 Jan 2018 13:38:42
Robson, no debate for me. He would be worth £200M nowadays.

23 Jan 2018 13:51:41
The best? Well clues probably in the name my favourite however was becks.

23 Jan 2018 14:02:38
Torn between Di Maria and Depay. Both were absolute club legends: gave everything for the shirt, and have so many stand out moments.

23 Jan 2018 14:03:23
Georgie the Belfast Boy. No question whatsoever.

23 Jan 2018 14:08:26
Cantona for me. Was my hero growing up! Would be best in terms of skill set but King Eric was one of the main reasons I supported United.

23 Jan 2018 14:12:43
Ronaldo.

23 Jan 2018 14:12:44
I'm told by many that know that George was the best but I am too young to have appreciated him.

Between the others it is such a tough choice but I would probably say Cantona for the impact he had for us.

Robson was amazing, a real captain, Ronaldo has become the best player in the world and one of the top 5 to ever play the game and Beckham's workrate and time he took to become to player he became was immense despite probably being the least talented of the 5.

What it definitely tells us is that the last few number 7s haven't deserved the shirt and finally we have a player that might be a catalyst for something special.

23 Jan 2018 14:37:42
Can you imagine Georgie on today's pitches and the extra protection from the referees?

23 Jan 2018 14:38:13
Lolll juST realised who MD7 was.

23 Jan 2018 16:08:20
The best number 7 in my time of being a fan, for me is Bryan Robson. An absolutely brilliant captain and player and exactly what we’re missing now.

23 Jan 2018 16:28:00
Noucamp he'd be the first billionaire footballer. Although if he was around now in his prime he'd be working his way thru the cast of Hollyoaks, Little Mix and the revived Miss World.

23 Jan 2018 16:42:06
Lol mort he sure would. Imagine the headlines if georgie was kicking about now. I missed his time gds but from what every fan told me who was lucky enough to witness him and the many 7s that came after, George was something exceptional.

23 Jan 2018 19:06:22
There way tie between Best, Robson and Cantona. Ronaldo played his best after he left us unfortunately, and although I have a lot of affection for Becks he just wasn't as talented or influential as the others.

Best was simply a genius like which the world had never seen before, Robson was everything you wanted from a captain and Cantona was the most influential.

23 Jan 2018 20:20:40
Robson was a bit special .
He was United, we looked lost with out him .
Same for England as well.
85/ 86 I think United would of went close to winning the league and England the world cup with a fit Robson.

23 Jan 2018 20:25:17
I saw Best live in the flesh once, I remember the awe I had when he walked on the pitch, back then you could only watch the clips on tv and yet could see the genius. As an all round man with the genius it would always be best. However on pure football talent it is Ronaldo for me. I was at the Bolton game and that day something very special started. It isn’t just the two footed ability, the power to run, to dribble to score and to finish. What put him above was his unbelievable heading ability, to head like a centre forward. The day he played against Bolton I had never seen the like before and that included all the other greats.

23 Jan 2018 20:36:27
"""RONALDO OOOOHHHOO """

23 Jan 2018 22:42:32
When we look at consistency Becks wasn’t half bad either.

23 Jan 2018 23:43:42
Totally agree jred on 86 wc and put a fit robson in the 90 wc team and he would have been the difference.

24 Jan 2018 00:05:57
Best played in an era when the pitches were often little better than mud baths. He played in an era where the football was very much heavier, especially in the wet, and tackles which today are given red cards were considered as par for the course then. He would have been even greater in today's game. Left foot right foot headers dribbling defending and blessed with a fine football brain as well as instinctive genius he had it all. O top it off he wasn't too bad looking either.

24 Jan 2018 07:52:14
Best was before my time but growing up Robson was my hero. That then changed to Roy Keane, so for me it has to be Robbo.

23 Jan 2018 09:53:46
Watching the goal against Burnley which started from Lukaku ending by Martial and can't help being excited about Sanchez helping the attack. Lukaku and Sanchez will be very strong in holding and attacking with Martial getting stronger in finishing. Eternal those 3, I think we will have a very potent attack. Pogba and Matic strongly supporting the attack and well, Lingard too. And we still have a few strong options like Rashford, Herrera and McTom on the bench.
Hopefully in the summer we beef up even more with a couple of defenders and with Baily fit and Jones we should be a force to be reckoned with next season.
For the rest of his season we should really start focusing on teamwork and various combinations.

23 Jan 2018 10:40:59
We will Probably win something this season . We are strong in all areas and don't concede many goals could well be Champions League if we get a good draw if we beat Sevilla 😆😆.

23 Jan 2018 10:52:35
Yes BFRO I am hopeful of us winning something this season but don’t want to raise to high hopes 😉.
However I am quite optimistic about next season should we add a couple of players for defense ie RB and CB. I am also hopeful Shaw will come good as well as a couple of players getting into the senior team. That would really show us Jose is building the team well and giving younger ones playing opportunities. Very optimistic of next season.

23 Jan 2018 11:20:28
I would definitely strengthen the midfield area. Maybe the midfielder from Lazio, Milinkovic-Savic who looks a real all round player. He tackles, dribbles and can assist and would probably chip in with a few goals and he is only 22.

23 Jan 2018 13:36:36
You can’t say next year will be our year, it’s already copyrighted!

23 Jan 2018 14:04:02
🤣🤣🤣 Stringer and welcome back from the wilderness.
You’ve been busy I notice? 😂.

23 Jan 2018 12:14:42
ED02 has mentioned that SMS is one of the CM's that we are looking at, but he has a lot of clubs looking at him at the minute. I can't see Lazio selling in Jan so this will be one for the summer but if we could get him that would be a massive signing.

23 Jan 2018 03:58:59
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 23rd January 2018

23 Jan 2018 04:51:10
Great stuff Ed 👏👏. Better than Mirror 🤣🤣😂 sorry don’t mean any offense comparing to Mirror.
Whatever was in his crazy mind of Robinho if he really did participate in the gang rape? This guy is really nuts if true. Pure stupidity and mentally deranged. Sick! 🤦‍♂️.

{Ed001's Note - Robinho has a tendency to hang around with the wrong kind of people, which is part of the problem with his career never really hitting the heights it should. Sadly footballers as a rule do tend to treat women badly, very badly.}

23 Jan 2018 05:52:08
Yeah Ed agree on the last part. Did they learnt from Trump or the other way round? 🤣🤣🤣
On another note was not surprised by the Swans scousers game. Said it that there was going to be a surprise. New motivation from their manager but Klopp with the Swans fan stuff was just plain stupid reflecting his collapse under pressure. You can kick the bottle or argue with 4th officialbut to take it out on an opposition supporter is pure stupidity. Should he get banned for 3 games? What’d you think Ed?

{Ed001's Note - I don't really care to be honest. It used to be ok for them to talk to the fans, so long as he said nothing offensive, I don't really see what is wrong with it? I am sure the Swans fan was loving it. I mean he clearly set out to wind him up and he did so. The fan won at the end of the day and got what he wanted. Arguing with a 4th official annoys me, that should not be allowed, just like arguing with a referee. They are under so much pressure from everyone, it is not right to have the coaching staff giving them grief for 90 minutes. Football needs to take a lesson from rugby in this regard, officials need to be treated like they matter and given protection by the rules. They are much more likely to make the right decisions when they have not got fear of the hounding they get each time they make one hanging over their heads.}

23 Jan 2018 07:10:28
Been saying it for an age ed. The FA need to learn from rugby in many regards, the VAR being one and most importantly the treatment of officials. It will alleviate so much pressure and in turn allow officials to do a better job and will also allow the FA to punish referees who aren't doing the job required. World rugby has been fantastic in that regard, wonderful referees and when mistakes are made then they are punished.

{Ed001's Note - exactly mate, I think every sport should always be looking and learning from other sports and what they do. There is always something that can be taken and used to improve football. Right now though, the big thing is the way officials are hounded is disgusting. Yes they are bloody awful, to put it nicely, but they will not improve while they are being hounded by players. The VAR thing worries me though as it will almost certainly be overused so the game can slip an advert in on the coverage and increase income.}

23 Jan 2018 07:22:04
Now that’s the best thing said - football should learn from rugby 👏👏👏
You’re the man 👍.

{Ed001's Note - thank you mate.}

23 Jan 2018 11:37:54
Yes most definitely the VAR will be abused to slip in more advertisements. Especially within the premier league.

It has become part of footballing culture and that your are also enabled to hound an official. I even think back playing football and always finding it easier to say something to the referee than in say a game of hurling or GAA football. It stems from the top. if FIFA, UEFA put things in place so that it's near impossible to hound a referee then players won't a la rugby, GAA etc.

23 Jan 2018 14:16:16
Or celebrity VAR. Big games it will be Nicole Kidman / johnny Depp making the call. smaller games Debbie mcgee/ someone from emmerdale.

{Ed001's Note - now you are talking! Blatter will be gutted he never thought of that.}

23 Jan 2018 03:33:16
If Jose signs an extension, what would be the sentiments here?

I would want stability hence i am all for it.
Jose"s pragmatism in some away games aside against the top teams vying for champions league spot aside, Jose's track record, cv and name would more than likely bring titles, trophies and big signings.

If he is here for the long haul i hope he will bring in more of the academy players and gives them more opportunities.

Bringing in Carrick into the coaching set up seems a good move.

Thoughts guys?

23 Jan 2018 04:26:30
I hope he extends because I honestly don’t see any superstar or potential superstar managers to replace him at the moment. As frustrating as he can be at times with his style of play, we have improved under him, have improved the overall talent level while bringing through youth and lowering the squad age overall. Also, remember when we had to go above and beyond in crazy ways to try and sign big players under moyes and lvg, under Jose big players want to come to rainy Manchester. That’s a huge power to have. I think given a long run at the club he’ll
Continue to move his playing style towards the attacking tradition of the the club, finding a balance that entertains and gets results. Again, he still costs us points settling for draws, but that’s why he wins knockout tournaments like the CL, he just doesn’t lose. But I think he’s matured (ignoring the Conte nonsense) as a manager and won’t have the eventual blowup that was his calling card. City have thrown the season on its head, but we’re through the CL and doing well in the league relatively speaking. If I have to put my money on the table i'd much rather put it on Jose in years 3-5 than some random new manager in seasons 1-3.

23 Jan 2018 10:25:04
Great post KG agree with all of that. We couldn’t attract any top players under LVG and Moyes but under Jose we have signed some massive players. Granted we have thrown a lot of money but players want to see potential and a chance to win trophies and we must be a very attractive proposition at the moment for a lot of players. I can see Jose staying for another 2-3 years after his contract and then I think we have a succession plan in place. Never know Carrick could be our next manager 😂😉. Imagine that.

23 Jan 2018 00:12:05
Been a while since I last posted, so firstly great news signing sanchez, think this could probably be the best swap deal there's ever been and one both teams could really benefit from.
Now this summer becomes very interesting, since Sanchez has taken up one of the three signings that were planned, I'd guess the other two will be a cm and a rb, which direction do you think Jose will take us?
Do we think he will bring in these two others to replace say carrick and darmian and have few others leave or do you think we may have quite a few 'deadwood' players leave to be replaced by the younger lads, Jose trying to emulate fergie and the class of 92?
Personally I hope its the later and with utd going after so many top 15/ 16 year olds in recent years I think this could be the way were heading, let's not forget that the main criticism of Jose has been how he doesn't bring thru youth, if he were to bring up and put his faith in these young lads like SAF did all those years ago he could really lay claim to being one of the greatest managers of all time, and would really become part of our great history, instead of having the mourinho years could we be starting to really see the basis of the mourinho era?

23 Jan 2018 04:04:47
What a strange post.

If Jose is going to show his aptitude for bringing through youth then what better chance than deputy rightback behind the ever reliable Toni V?

We have two high potential prospects that are ready for that role, TFM who is playing well on loan, or Axel Tuanzebe.

I do however share your optimism for Jose's dynasty, but make no mistake, he will buy top players to star in his squad.