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23 Jul 2015 22:56:40
Is ronaldo unhappy at madrid at the start of every summer transfer window? Let's just end the speculation can we?
I don't understand why Garay hasn't been more heavily linked? He'd be superb for us. Worth a few goals a season from set pieces and good on the ball too. If we have the money then if Ramos doesn't move then I would just get in Otamendi and Garay. Would be a top class pairing.
23 Jul 2015 22:27:03
Hi guys, was in the pub a few nights back and out of nowhere I overhear a conversation between 3 men, one happening to be Berahino's father. Well long story short, his dad thinks Berahino is coming to United as we're trying to push for a move and it's just a fee between the clubs to be agreed.
I think he would make a good accusation to our team as I think he is exactly what we need. English, Homegrown and has bags of potential.
Don't shoot the messenger!!!
24 Jul 2015 00:07:02
last post got lost .
in short i hope your right
24 Jul 2015 00:11:56
Get ready to take cover 💥💥💥 shots fired
24 Jul 2015 00:48:20
What's he being accused of? ;)
24 Jul 2015 01:19:36
Berahino would be a great signing
24 Jul 2015 07:11:42
Haha mpez u scoundrel ;)
24 Jul 2015 07:48:54
Fire in the hole!!!
24 Jul 2015 08:27:53
Berahino = mini Balotelli bigger ego than Ronaldo and the type of player to spit dummy out .Good as he may be i think you will agree we should be aiming a lot higher .Messengers always get shot .💥💥
24 Jul 2015 10:15:17
I love a good ol' fishing trip. ;)
24 Jul 2015 10:41:59
I'd rather have Charlie Austin than berahino
23 Jul 2015 22:25:38
Ed002, this isn't a United related post but it's a general question about the transfer market. Are UEFA/FIFA looking into the way clubs sign younger players who they are almost stockpiling? I saw Platini said something about it the other day but not too much else on this.
Undoubtedly all of the bigger clubs, including ourselves, could be seen as doing this but if we take Chelsea for example, they have so many players out on loan. At the moment Vitesse are Chelsea's reserves. I don't know how many players they loaned there over the last couple of seasons but it's surely double figures?
Thanks
{Ed002's Note - And it is of no consequence.}
24 Jul 2015 04:10:18
We should be following what Chelsea are doing. They have a great idea and right now they own nearly half of the worlds talented youngsters.
24 Jul 2015 09:10:36
Yes salior there youth have won the cup the past few years but they never promote any of these "talented youngsters"
They haven't produced anyone since terry, so there not doing much right.
We have some great talent waiting to get a chance hopefully a few get a chance this season
24 Jul 2015 09:45:28
Totally agree .Why we have not put offers in for Stones ,Laporte ,and Verrati is beyond me .Jose again is setting the bar high for the rest to follow .
24 Jul 2015 10:24:56
Chelsea's policy is irritatingly excellent. The players they get in and loan out at worst are sold at a profit and at best make the squad. It's a really good system that they have implemented very well. We should be looking at doing something similar.
24 Jul 2015 14:10:23
We should bid for Laporte? Solid, young centre-back who will only get better AND he supports OUR club, Manchester United!
John Stones as well? Why an earth are we not bidding?
I can appreciate LVG is going for experience, but long term, these signings would be more beneficial going forward?
23 Jul 2015 20:23:25
Sid Lowe is really pushing the Sergio Ramos rumour claiming that he is flying over to America to watch us play against Barca and will also tell Perez again this weekend that he wants to leave.
I can't help but feel that this has legs and Madrid have made him Captain as a last ditch cause to keep him.
Our interest in Ramos is the only sensible reason that we have yet to finalise a deal for Otamendi.
23 Jul 2015 20:35:22
The fact that strong reports suggested weeks ago that he wanted to leave for us, has always gave this legs! I think it's on.
23 Jul 2015 20:40:06
Fresh you mean Sergio Romero ?
23 Jul 2015 20:46:00
ramos plays against city on friday and inter on monday both games in australia .
cant see him going to watch united in the usa
23 Jul 2015 22:11:59
Unfortunately I do, Nevermind haha.
23 Jul 2015 22:12:18
Fresh u getting a bit confused between Ramos and Romero lad.
23 Jul 2015 18:40:22
Ed, firstly thanks for all the information on here.
My question is around defenders, especially centre back where for me we need 2. Jones and Smalling are ok but both injury prone IMO.
Do you know if we have genuine interest in any CB's and if so are we close to sealing the deal.
Finally business so far has been spot on for me.
{Ed004's Note - I expect one centre back to be signed and one to go (Evans) although McNair or Blackett could go on loan. The club seems to be trying hard for Ramos as we speak and he seems to be interested in signing however dealing with Madrid is hard at the best of times and even harder than when it is their captain. If we can not get him I expect the club to push on for Otamendi. Whoever is signed is most likely to partner Smalling who when fit is easily our best cb}
23 Jul 2015 19:19:10
Ed, who do you think would be 4th choice out of Jones and Rojo? I feel if we got Otamendi then we could see Rojo play a bit more for the language.
{Ed004's Note - I reckon it'll be Jones covering Smalling as they are the Right side cb and Rojo covering the new signing and Shaw}
23 Jul 2015 19:28:51
Jones and smalling are too injury prone so we definitely need another CB otamendi would be the better choice. I would get rid of Evans and blackett their not good enough.The fullbacks are going to be the big difference this year with Shaw and Darmian their going to bring pace and power to our flanks . My only concern is with young and mata playing on the wing they both like to cut back and slow the play down we need drop the two of them for depay and hfully pedro if we get him . Then we will be much more dangerous team
23 Jul 2015 19:37:17
What if someone jumps in for otimendi (ie citeh) while we pointlessly wait for ramos deal? Are we at risk of missing out on both ?
{Ed004's Note - If someone jumps in for him I'm sure we will bid if we want him}
23 Jul 2015 22:12:58
I don't see us getting Ramos, they won't let him go and now MEN are reporting Ronaldo is the one we want now that Bale has been made the main man.
We shall see how this interesting story unravels.
23 Jul 2015 23:31:23
If rafa sacrifices Ronaldo to make bale the main man then the white hankies will be out and rafa will be gone before Xmas. Its commercial suicide and football lunacy, if there is a power struggle at RM Ronaldo will win out I've no doubt about that.
23 Jul 2015 21:36:52
thanks very much ed004
{Ed004's Note - no problem}
23 Jul 2015 23:46:04
Indeed Ken, and apparently Bale isn't too popular with the fans either.
😉
23 Jul 2015 18:06:11
Hope we get Thomas Muller, I hear his corners are amazing.
23 Jul 2015 18:49:28
What an idiotic thing to say, surely someone of his calibre you'd want inside the box?
23 Jul 2015 19:11:02
The problem is that he'll go off if he's stuck inside the box all the time.
23 Jul 2015 19:12:01
I got it Shappy but not sure Anon did! ;)
23 Jul 2015 19:20:12
Anon, go and take a trip to tesco, look in the yoghurt section then slap yourself with one haha
23 Jul 2015 19:23:44
Gotcha, nice one shaps
23 Jul 2015 19:27:58
Right over your head Anon
23 Jul 2015 19:31:29
Shappy, crouch and pose for the photo buddy, you've just caught yourself an Anon. 🎣
23 Jul 2015 19:32:35
Shappy, I got it, mate. Even if it did go sailing over Anon's head in his hurry to call you an idiot :)
23 Jul 2015 19:36:34
Nice one Shappy. Best when the balls are made of chocolate.
23 Jul 2015 20:31:36
God you're all way too easy, I'll put my rod away, decent fish.
23 Jul 2015 20:44:47
Shally you old fruit!
23 Jul 2015 21:04:34
**shappy
23 Jul 2015 21:49:58
Haha. love how Anon is trying to back track. 'I honestly got it guys!. I did!. guys. '
23 Jul 2015 22:21:13
I hope we get him and Reus! Would make a good combination don't you think?
I'll grab my coat.
23 Jul 2015 22:53:16
If you think that's backtracking then you have something wrong with you, at first at typed out pot instead of box but thought that was too obvious.
24 Jul 2015 00:10:09
anon
i thought that's what you meant
24 Jul 2015 10:39:54
Yeah, fair enough.
23 Jul 2015 16:59:44
It seems Bayern have signed Vidal for £26m + add-ons. Who got the better deal us with Schweinsteiger or them with Vidal?
23 Jul 2015 17:24:09
I am glad we got either Them Arsenal did not Get vidal. that would have pissed me off!
Time will tell but Schneiderlin Already looks like he will make a difference for us.
23 Jul 2015 17:32:49
I agree Schneiderlin will be a great player for us but you can't put him on the same level as Vidal.
23 Jul 2015 17:41:25
You've had a bit of a Schmix up there I think, Brad 😃
23 Jul 2015 17:50:59
Both the teams got what they wanted. United didn't have anyone with experience to lead on the field and motivate others. Senior players are Carrick and Rooney who don't exactly look like leader material.
On the other hand Bayern has Lahm, Muller, Robben, Ribery etc. They wanted someone to fill the void left by Bastian and who better than Vidal who already has Bundesliga experience.
23 Jul 2015 18:26:29
can anyone say , yes munich got the better player
23 Jul 2015 19:24:53
They can but they would be wrong IMO
23 Jul 2015 20:17:27
I don't think you can compare Vidal and schwiansteiger the two player's are different midfielder
{Ed004's Note - You would have to compare Vidal with Schneiderlin}
23 Jul 2015 20:32:39
the question was who got the best deal .
nobody seems to want to answer but i'm going to be brave and say munich did.
vidal is one of the best in the world and only just turned 27 so should be in his prime .
so 26 mill is a great deal .
23 Jul 2015 21:12:27
He's gone from 40 to 26 in a year. Guys got shot knees.
23 Jul 2015 21:56:41
mort
yer i thought that last time i watched him play .
munich doctors must of missed it
24 Jul 2015 10:40:26
Like we did with Hargreaves?
23 Jul 2015 16:16:22
I think its going to be announced any day now that di maria is off to psg. I think negotiations of his price are going on right now. Its sad really, he really is a hard working and great player. Somethings are not meant to be. I just hope we get a decent replacement.
23 Jul 2015 16:32:37
If he does go then the Bale/Ronaldo//Pedro rumours will explode on here.Hold on to your y fronts 💥💥
23 Jul 2015 16:34:30
Hes a good player but its a shame he wants to go play in a leauge that is less competative than the championship,
Abilty means nothing if your not willing to challenge yourself.
23 Jul 2015 16:36:19
what if we sell him and don't replace him ?
maybe depay is his replacement
23 Jul 2015 16:49:48
Jred
That would worry me. Depay is very inexperienced and that would be a lot of pressure on him already
23 Jul 2015 17:13:04
di maria has always been one of my fave players. i remember being in awe when i saw him for benfica and was gutted when he went madrid so you can guess how i felt when he joined utd. Di maria i will say on his day is unplayable and in the top 10. What we need to remember is at madrid, he wasnt seen as the main threat, obvioisly with ronaldo ozil benzema over the last few years. the problem at utd wass he was the only direct player on our team. most of our players were too fearful of taking on a player which as a utd fan i'm sure we all find frustrating as were used to attacking football. Teams could hence solely focus on preventing di maria going forward as it was easily to work out what our other players would do. di maria had no attacking support and so there was a lack of space for him to exploit. ill be really sad to see him leave if he does because i feel with the solid mid and depays pace we can see more of the di maria we expect but if he wants to go. we should let him. but an adequate replacement is necessary. Bale or maybe even a swap with muler if possiible
23 Jul 2015 17:21:01
I know football shouldn't be all about physical attributes but does anyone else think we lack pace if Di Maria goes and isn't replaced?
23 Jul 2015 17:24:25
Trumours
What jumps out in your post is that
"he wasnt seen as the main threat, obvioisly with ronaldo ozil benzema over the last few years"
putting Ozil in there epitomises that we paid way over the odds for him in the first instance. £41m for ozil and £60m for Di Maria- there isn't £20 m difference and definitely not inDi marias favour.
I would like to see him moved on and guess we could get 2 quality signings with the reduced fee we would get and pay their contracts saving money from his wages. BTW, not disagreeing with your comments just think that Ozil mentioned endorses getting rid:)
23 Jul 2015 17:51:45
Honeybadger
I do. You only need to look at barca vs bayern last year to see what difference pace brings. Without robben amd ribery, bayern had no outlet despite matching barca's midfield. The result was they got the ball in promising areas and couldn't do anything with it.
23 Jul 2015 17:56:31
ozil has been average for arsenal
23 Jul 2015 18:49:24
As good as DM is, it was quite clear he did not want to come to United in the first place last season. If it was not for FFP he would have joined PSG 100%.
I don't know about the rest of you but for me if he doesn't want to be here, let him leave. He has not settled on or off the pitch, the break in was sad, however to me that is a conveinent excuse.
A parting of the waves is best all round, the main thing is replacing him with like for like quality.
23 Jul 2015 18:56:41
Ibms that's a good example I agree
23 Jul 2015 15:16:33
Well it's pretty clear Van Gaals most used words are Philosophy and Process.
23 Jul 2015 15:46:09
But the philosophy is also a process, and the process is part of this philosophy. The evolution of the team, as such, can only be truly known as a 'philocess' in which philosophy is processed within the confines of its own philosophical contours; where philosophy becomes a process that creates the philosophy which proceeds itself.
23 Jul 2015 15:54:07
Quality danny! Was waiting for a response like that haha!
23 Jul 2015 22:13:00
Bravo Dan
23 Jul 2015 14:58:09
Afternoon chaps,
A topic that hasn't been discussed on here much is the formation that LVG will go with.
Up until now he has played a 4-4-2 / 4-2-3-1 in pre-season games.
Do you think he will carry on with this or will he switch to a 4-3-3?
The 4-2-3-1 is a formation that he successfully used at Bayern with Muller behind Olic. Could we have Memphis behind Rooney with a combination of wingers either side: Di Maria if he stays, Pedro if he comes in, Young, Mata or Janzuaj.
The 4-2-3-1 also makes sense if we are to sign another striker to play ahead of Rooney.
However, it does mean that two of Schneiderlin, Herrera, Carrick and Schweinsteiger sits out - and I bet you any money the one to sit out the most is Herrera.
23 Jul 2015 15:31:25
Your last point is what I've been thinking about, in a 4-3-3 we could have bastian/carrick and then morgan and Herrera in the middle which I would love to see, and I think both Herrera and morgan are creative enough and have the engines needed to get up and down the pitch and help create some goals. Only problem then is we don't have a player in the 10 role which would mean one of our more creative players would be missing game time, someone like Depay mata adnan or pereira. Not a bad selection headache to have though, competition for positions looks like it will be high this year I can't wait.
23 Jul 2015 15:51:54
I think at times his formation will depend on the opposition.
23 Jul 2015 14:32:25
Angel di Maria's pet dog is unsettled in the UK and his pets4homes insurance still hasn't come thru. He has a French Bulldog hence the links to Ligue 1 have surfaced, Laurent Blanc is said to be willing to insure his dog, 'Louis', as part of his contract which also includes a 'I reserve the right to play well for Argentina' clause.
23 Jul 2015 14:55:16
I think like you I am a little bit sick of the rumours. It's got to the point that if he goes, he goes, but great if he stays and works hard.
Either way I hope we sign Pedro.
23 Jul 2015 14:55:56
Without sounding to disrespectful of other leagues, how can any top footballer with a love of the game can go and leave the best league in the world to play in a league that is no better than the championship. In fact, the championship is probably more competitive.
If Di Maria wants to go and be a mercenary and play in France, then I say good riddance to bad rubbish. I would much rather see some of the younger lads given their chance than some over-payed light weight who played like bambi on ice for the majority of last season.
23 Jul 2015 15:06:26
All paper talk mate, i'm actually friends with the guys that cuts Di Maria's hair, and apparently he doesn't even have a dog! A cat maybe, but he assured me its 100% not dog hair he has to brush of Mr. Di Maria's shoulders.
23 Jul 2015 21:16:02
Yeah I am fresh, footballers today know the media stories so if he's happy to stay he would say so, silence speaks volumes and if he's still here next year it'll be because nobody has managed to agree a fee. Pedro I would like. Well if its not cat hair or dog hair what type of hair could it be?
23 Jul 2015 14:31:07
so bayern have stated the obvious muller is not for sale even the most optimistic utd fan knew this why do we piss about chaseing players when we know there is no chance ramos is included in that so come on eddie get your finger out and sign a striker and a cb and put that iceing on the cake
23 Jul 2015 14:33:16
Who says we are chasing Muller? Who from the club has confirmed a bid? It's all paper talk mate.
23 Jul 2015 15:20:57
Con Con,
The thing is, if we signed a centre defender and a centre forward people would be on here saying 'WHY ARE WE MESSING AROUND, I WANT XXXX SIGNED', our work in the transfer market this summer has been fantastic so far, the other deals we are trying to do are obviously a bit more tricky so are taking a bit longer, not sure anybody can see we have 'pissed about' this summer, so calm down, ignore the papers and enjoy seeing Ronald, Bale and Ramos on August 1st.
23 Jul 2015 15:11:57
Nothing said we was chasing Muller.
23 Jul 2015 14:23:49
Hi all,
Long time reader but first time poster.
This is going to sound so far fetched that it could actually be true (more likely not though)
The mystery signing that LVG referred to could in all actuality be Lionel Messi. Bare with me on this one
Uniteds deal with Adidas starts from the 1st Aug, the deal we have with them is a world record fee over 10 years. The influx of this money effectively pays the buy out clause of 250m Euro for Messi and would put him in the shirt of his sponsors rather than the Nike of Barca.
Utd have recently let RVP and Falcao go, this saves close to 500k per week in wages.
Barca would more than likely be happy with the astronomical fee as well.
LVG stated last January that Messi would be a target but the papers played it down thinking he was messing about with them (Probably was) He also stated that the papers have not linked us with the player (Who in their right mind would)
Utd wouldn't announce the deal until all reference of Nike is removed from the club on 1st Aug
LVG recently said he might not buy a striker, Messi is not one
More than likely this is complete codswallop but it could actually prove to be correct
Conspiricy theory or possibility?
23 Jul 2015 14:32:04
Well, this is a rumor site after all. But seriously.
23 Jul 2015 14:33:51
No chance.
23 Jul 2015 14:34:56
Love it!
If only it would come true.
Great post!
23 Jul 2015 15:21:33
You know what, I think you might be right.
23 Jul 2015 14:51:30
Love the post. Hulmer, u made your entry with a BANG!!! Keep them coming.
23 Jul 2015 14:55:44
Why would he want to leave? You're dreaming
23 Jul 2015 14:57:05
Have u been doing some paint spraying
23 Jul 2015 15:02:59
Its good but its not quite carling.
23 Jul 2015 15:06:57
Ha we can dream mate :) a transfer that would rock football to its very foundation's :)
23 Jul 2015 14:56:28
to be fair it was decent to read, but c'mon Ed007, get that yellow card out!
{Ed007's Note - We can't retrospectively punish a poster.}
23 Jul 2015 15:54:56
Hulmer, I have just bumped into your doctor, he said you need to stop taking those tablets IMMEDIATELY!
23 Jul 2015 15:58:47
There is logic though never going to happen.
23 Jul 2015 17:44:51
I was with you all the way until you said Messi.
23 Jul 2015 18:14:42
Hulmer, we can all dream, but there is more chance of me platting fog! It hink we can buy the whole of Barca, Real and Bayern teams put together before we have a 1 in a billion chance of signing Messi.
It is not going to happen. Sorry.
23 Jul 2015 19:33:01
Hunter that was a better read than 50 shades of grey😄 we won't sign mess but we will sign bale imo
23 Jul 2015 20:51:49
I'm sold!
23 Jul 2015 21:46:23
Only way any of us would see messi in a united shirt is by playing season mode on FIFA and customising the team before hand.
The bloke is ridiculous. !
As for bale. Maybe next year after the Real Madrid faithful give him another load of abuse this season.
24 Jul 2015 11:00:50
Beautiful
23 Jul 2015 13:43:39
Does anyone know of the current position regarding Otemandi. We seemed (according to multiple sources) to be close to signing him a while back and it seems to have gone quiet.
It could be that our focus is on Ramos no matter how unlikely that is.
Obviously the concern is that we end up missing out on both which i think would be a travesty.
23 Jul 2015 14:34:20
Based on what the ed's are saying we are haggling on the price and Valencia are playing hard ball. Otamendi is all ready to join though.
23 Jul 2015 15:21:36
Seems an odd one to me, that will mean we have 3 right footed CB not including the reserve players. Any Ed's know if we are trying to move any of the CB one as well as evans?
23 Jul 2015 16:59:54
the eds not as much as we do! Valencia have come out and said no bids have been made, so hardly haggling for price, and they have already said they will let him go if his release clause is met. So why waste time trying to haggle to eds have been saying
23 Jul 2015 13:36:36
I have no idea about this one but it occurred to me that perhaps Kevin De Bruyne is of interest? He's off the radar, scores goals and can play multiple possintions. Perhaps that's why city have become interest in Ramos and Otamendi. Like I said this is just a thought there's no reason to believe it is true other than the sunrise comments made by LVG and Paddy. Happy to take people's opinions though, eds/posters?
23 Jul 2015 14:06:34
By this logic it can be Griezman.
23 Jul 2015 14:10:12
Only you dude more than covered in than position
23 Jul 2015 12:51:34
Reading between lines this is how rest of window will work out -
Ins
Llorente
Pedro
Otamendi
Cillessen
Total spend 150m
Outs
Rafael
De gea
Di Maria
Evans
Total income 90m
23 Jul 2015 13:10:57
I agree but think that De Gea will stay which means no Cilessen and I think our sights will be set higher than Llorente.
23 Jul 2015 13:14:45
Fresh, So you don't agree then lol. I pretty much agree with you Fresh.
23 Jul 2015 13:36:54
Guys, you do realise Llorente is 30? Why would we want him? Might asŵell have kept RVP?
23 Jul 2015 14:02:24
He's 30 best take him out back with shot gun. I'm glad doesn't apply to fans.
23 Jul 2015 13:54:35
30!!!!! EWWWWWWEEEEEEEE!!!!
That's like so ancient Ronnie! I bet he's even got grey hairs on his ballsack.
I get the feeling that Ronnie would unironically watch Logan's Run as a practical template for society.
(p.s. I am not a fan of Llorente, but that has more to do with his piss poor form over the last season than his age).
23 Jul 2015 14:43:30
Some things get better with age, ok the W's, wine, women and whisky but still.
23 Jul 2015 16:42:01
I think Ronnie likes them young.
23 Jul 2015 12:46:46
Benteke : "I am here to win trophies"
Does he not know which team he has signed for? Or he has already learnt some comedy from his new manager Brendan.
23 Jul 2015 13:29:51
Actually, I think scousers have bought a couple of excellent players in Benteke and Firminio. They have also added Milner who will do well for them.
I know this will not go down well with CGU especially, but actually, they are looking a lot stronger than last year. We are still short of a top striker and top central defender. And if ADM goes, hopefully, then we will need a winger. If we don't buy these, then 4th place will not be possible in my opinion.
I don't understand people's dislike of Benteke, he might not be what we are looking for in a striker, but he still scored 17 goals in an injury plagued season last year playing in a really poor team.
So let's not allow our hatred of scousers to dismiss them as challengers. They will be challenging for 3rd and 4th places along with us and Arsenal.
23 Jul 2015 13:44:13
Pedro can play as a winger or in the middle as a striker so if di maria goes we have covered that. Otamendi or ramos will come in so I'm thinking we will be definate title contenders when this happens.
23 Jul 2015 14:40:58
Agree and would add Clyne who I believe will be their best signing. Benteke could really shine in a much better team than A V but a big gamble at the price.
23 Jul 2015 14:53:13
I agree to an extent that they have strengthened but they are more than likely to be challenging for the Europa League spot. They won't challenge even if they signed Messi as he would more than likely be played at left back at the beginning of the season and may end up as a backup goal keeper by the end of it. They are not strengthening where they need to. that's replacing rodgers.
United will be challenging for the title. Remember we were the best of the top 4 last season. And we have added quality. We will be back where we belong. at the top.
23 Jul 2015 18:00:51
How could you have been the best of the top 4 when you finished 4th?? Surely finishing 4th means you were the worst of the top 4! Stupid statement that was Shan United boy.😮
24 Jul 2015 10:34:15
m sure 08 u knw wat i meant there.or u just n idiot. we had the most points against the top 4.
and well while we are at it, we conceded fewer goals against the top 4 than looserfool conceded against Stoke.
23 Jul 2015 12:41:50
What would everybody's thoughts be on signing Eden dzeko I'd take him I no he's city but I think he would a good job for us and would be relatively cheap compared to muller/lewandovski
23 Jul 2015 13:15:59
He took the piss when he signed for them, "Everyone in Manchester supports Man city".
Not going to happen
23 Jul 2015 13:38:40
No thanks! Not good enough for city, then he's not good enough for us!
23 Jul 2015 12:29:54
Haven't posted for a while but I got slated last year when I said di Maria would be a flop & we should of gone for Reus.I can't belive we stumped up nearly 60 million for him, ship him out swap even for a loss.Would still rather go for Reus more than pedro
23 Jul 2015 13:11:40
My number one target would be Griezmann, then Reus and then Pedro.
23 Jul 2015 13:18:04
BR. I agree with you on ADM, I thought he was going to be fantastic at United, but his attitude is terrible and United should get rid of him immediately. If PSG are stupid enough to pay £45m for him, then let him go. Rues or Greizman will by my choices ahead of Pedro (assuming we can't get Bale or CR7)
23 Jul 2015 13:39:19
I agree with people's suggestions for replacements however I would include Kevin De Bruyne in that list. Will give us one up on our noisy neighbours also 😀 win win.
23 Jul 2015 12:10:20
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, What Can We Expect From Manchester City
23 Jul 2015 11:52:02
Who remembers when some posters on here a few years back actually wanted Usain Bolt to become a United player.
Good times.
23 Jul 2015 12:28:19
Well I do remember that and they had a solid case. All they wanted was playing him as a stiker and we would just toss the ball above the opposing defenders. There's no way anyone would have won that race against him. People on here have the weirdest of suggestions, sometimes I think they are just Liverpool or arsenal fans winding us up.
23 Jul 2015 14:05:01
But could he finish?
23 Jul 2015 17:49:00
Farah might have the stamina for the premier league.
I feel like I should make a joke, but I can only think of quorny ones
23 Jul 2015 11:26:44
I can't see a single mention of lingard praise (used search) in the recent posts.
He seems to me as a player who has gone a bit off the radar but I feel he could be a vital player for us in the season and I would like him to stay at United and get the odd games.
He is quick, flexible can play many positions but most importantly his crossing is better than most in the club.
For all the work Young does, his crosses always end going over the head, and Lingard put in 2-3 brilliant crosses in 90 mins he played. And he is a clinical finisher as well as he showed in a preseason 2-3 years ago.
McNair too puts in decent crosses and McNair's passing range is brilliant.
The right side of United look formidable with both Lingard and McNair there and I firmly believe they would play a major part in the future.
23 Jul 2015 12:07:19
I think they have both looked steady in the 2 games, formidable is pushing it a little bit!
I like Lingard, he seems an honest player, not amazing at anything but good at a lot of things, he can cross, he can score a few, he has a bit of pace and he is versatile but he is never going to set the world alight. I think he could be a decent squad player with 5-10 games a season when we have injuries or he could go and be a good player at a lower level team.
His cross for Perreira's header was brilliant.
23 Jul 2015 12:34:32
From what I've read about him , I don't see him being a first choice for us but a very good squad player. He can cover so many positions and if we have injuries he can always step up plus he will get his fair share of games to prove his worth. Its better than going out and spending millions on someone else to do the same role. Obviously his ambitions can be different and he might want to move on.
23 Jul 2015 13:31:13
Lingard did really well in both games and I would rather see him down the right wing than adm or Valencia.
23 Jul 2015 09:39:11
looking at the talk about di maria and it seems most people think there no point keeping a player that wants out .
so why do people want to keep ddg?
23 Jul 2015 10:02:20
Because DDG may help you retain 4th place where as ADM won't. It's that simple.
23 Jul 2015 10:06:28
Very good point jred and I agree, haven't seen either player say they want to go and I think Angel's so called negative attitude is down to the fact it is not happening the way he dreamt it would. Both players to stay
23 Jul 2015 10:15:26
It is far easier to replace Di Maria than it is De Gea.
Di Maria didn't contribute much at all last season and we still finished 4th and had a good record against the other members of the top 4, and Liverpool.
De Gea on the other hand was a huge contributor to what we achieved last season.
23 Jul 2015 10:19:26
jred,
It is a good question, I think if ADM had been world class last season people would have a different opinion on him leaving, and probably quite rightly.
ADM seemingly doesn't want to be here and played like that whereas DDG has never played like he doesn't want to be here, he has been professional and got on with it, and I think he just wants to be in Madrid rather that not want to play for United which it seems like with di Maria.
23 Jul 2015 11:14:11
Fresh, ADM played about 27 matches and 8 or 9 of them were from the bench he scored 4 and assisted 14. What exactly was you expecting?
23 Jul 2015 10:49:34
gds
or di maria just found his first season in england and the EPL hard the same way DDG did.
sounds like it has nothing to do with "he wants to leave" and more to do with one played well one never
{Ed007's Note - Jred anyone who watched ADM for Madrid more than in the CL final are not surprised by his form at Utd last season, he really isn't the player people are expecting him to be and Utd paid well over the odds for him which doesn't help to lower people's expectations.}
23 Jul 2015 12:09:07
jred,
I think you are right, it is a bit hypocritical, I am not one of the people that has said 'he wants to leave so get rid' but the DDG and ADM situations are different. People are willing to give more time to players who appear committed and are performing well on the pitch, that is just a natural thing to do.
23 Jul 2015 12:09:23
For me it's a question of attitude. De Gea will play to the best of his ability regardless of where he is because he wants to be a winner. He'd be happier in Madrid, but hasn't let that get in the way of his performance (it remains to be seen if it will next season).
Di Maria has never looked happy here and, to be honest, just doesn't look like he's at all arsed. I agree that he is worth nowhere near what we paid for him, but he is clearly capable of much much better than what we saw last year. What was telling for me is when he said that he doesn't understand why he was dropped last year, smacks of a player who won't even acknowledge that he needs to work hard to get back into the side.
Regardless, his agent has clearly been working overtime to get him off to Paris, and I think we will be well rid.
23 Jul 2015 12:06:12
ed that said i think he is a decent player.
but 60 mill was always a silly price ,prob twice what he is worth imo .
{Ed007's Note - He's a decent player in the £20-25m bracket but he's never going to justify his price tag. What would be Utd fans opinion on him be if City, Chelsea or even Liverpool had bought him for £60 million, would Utd fans still say he needs a season to settle and he'll come good etc?
If any of them bought him and he flopped as massively as he did you'd be giving their fans pelters for signing the diddy.}
23 Jul 2015 12:36:03
For me ADM is someone that you have in your team if the other 10 players are performing at the top level.in that case he is able to drift in and out of games and maybe producing 3/4 brilliant moments in a game. This could be the difference to winning or drawing and such he would be seen as a match winner.
However, he is not someone who is going to grab a team and pull them through when they are struggling. THis for me is the reason why he will not succeed at Utd. We are not quite there to allow for a near £60m player to be carried. I would sooner take £45m, accept a loss and invest it in someone who will work harder and perform more often.
23 Jul 2015 13:59:56
brad
someone like young then
23 Jul 2015 13:47:26
ed007
i would agree but that's your modern fan .
some players hit the ground running some dont.
imo you need to give a player a couple of years .
how bad was ddg in his first season evra or vidic .
{Ed007's Note - There's no point in signing Ronaldo then, he'll be 32 before he settles back down or Bale, he'd be 28/29 before he got on his game. Why pay £40/50 million for Harry Kane when you're not going to see the best of him for another 2 years?
And let's hope Schweinsteiger will play a couple of decent games before he turns 33 in 2 years time or what was the point in signing him?
It's strange that it seems to be really only at Utd you hear about players need this 1 or 2 seasons to settle down? Sanchez at Arsenal, Costa and Hazard at Chelsea, Aguero, Kompany and Toure at City didn't need a couple of seasons to settle, if you are spending £60 million on a player he should be one of the top bracket and you'd expect him to at least gain pass marks for the season.
Last season is as good as it gets for ADM, that's my point, I've seen him enough to know that.
Do Barcelona or Real Madrid buy players at 26 for over £50 million and give them a couple of years to prove themselves, of course they don't, teams that want to win trophies don't do that.
You're trying to make excuses for ADM being a major flop and there isn't any, I told you last summer when he signed what kind of player he was and the season he had came as no surprise to me.
This summer Utd MUST sell ADM, if they don't they are going to take a major loss on him next summer, another season like that one just past and you'll be luck to get over £25 million for him.}
23 Jul 2015 13:53:32
i would give him another season we could sell him and buy pedro (another decent player) but i would be more confident of di maria having a better second season than pedro having a great first
23 Jul 2015 13:57:47
gds
that my point it has nothing to do with "di maria wants to leave " and all to do with he didn't play well.
im always amazed people can tell how a player feels and how much he is enjoying his life by watching him play footy for 90 mins.
that said if di maria was playing crap not making the team and was sat with a big smile on his face loving life i would be a bit concerned .
23 Jul 2015 14:43:08
ed
i wouldn't say i'm making excusses its how i judge a player .
there is no hard and fast rule some players fit in straight away some don't .
pires and berkamp both took time .
i just don't believe in buying a player and if he doesn't play well straight away selling him and buying another one .
ddg for example didn't look like he was cut out for the EPL but has come good .
kagawa on the other hand never.
i just think it can take longer than 1 season to fully judge a player.
{Ed007's Note - That's OK if it's a young player in their early 20's, J but if you're forking out £60 million + top wages on a 26/27 year old who should be in his prime you have every right to demand better than what ADM delivered last season. If any other 'big' club had agreed to the deal they'd be a laughing stock so it's only fair that Utd get the same flak.
I said at the time I didn't think ADM was signed for footballing reasons, the deal was to show they still had the financial clout but it's backfired and turned out even worse than they could have imagined.
If Utd had somehow managed to wangle getting ADM on a season long loan with an option to buy for £60 million how many people would have been on here wanting Utd to take up the option? I'd say there would be one and that would just someone wanting to be awkward and it wouldn't be you :)
23 Jul 2015 16:33:13
ed
i agree, i always thought he was a statement signing, especially at that price
60 mil was always far to much.
but he is at the club now so for me its a case of getting the best out of him and i do think he is a better player than he showed last year.
that said i'm not sure he fits into lvg philosophy.
23 Jul 2015 07:32:56
On the topic of the surprise striker, LVG did not say its somebody who we haven't been linked to he said its not the one the media are writing about.
On the topic of ADM I think he will be gone before Saturday, I also think Pedro is a better player mainly due to the fact I have always been of the opinion ADM is highly overrated and somewhat like Nani, in the sense that he perfoms a fancy trick every now and again but for the main part is wasteful.
23 Jul 2015 09:43:49
I would agree about the part he's not worth the money we spent, but to be fair he's double the player Nani is.
The only reason di maria isn't in LVG's plan is because he is a risky player in possession and loses the ball trying to put in a cross whereas other player would backpass it. Pedro would be more of a LVG player, keeping the possession and passing until there's an opening.
Barcelona game would tell us how much possession can we give against opponents that are mastered in it.
23 Jul 2015 10:16:07
I agree that Pedro is better suited to LVG system and at £22 million is a bargain.
23 Jul 2015 10:21:15
I agree mate but i didn't say they were technically on the same level I said they do something fancy every now and again but are mostly wasteful in posession
23 Jul 2015 00:16:08
ed does zlatan and louis really hate each others gutts
{Ed007's Note - Yep, they fell out over a game of strip Ker-Plunk years ago and never made up then had an ugly exchange over Ronald Koeman's credentials at a Brock Lesnar look-a-like competition at Van Basten's stag do on Orkney.
Roy Keane hated everyone and it never done him any harm and I've learnt that's the best way to go through life.}
23 Jul 2015 01:05:32
so no chance of them linking up
{Ed007's Note - I doubt it after all this time. Perhaps mediation is an option for them but there's a lot of water went under the Magere Brug.}
23 Jul 2015 01:53:23
thanks ed when will our next signing come in and who? do u think
{Ed007's Note - I'm hoping it's Lewandowski but I don't think it'll be him, I'd love it to be Gotze especially if it was to replace ADM but that's fantasy football stuff, if Gotze was available I think Real Madrid would go all out to make him a Galactico. I'm not buying the Harry Kane talk either, I just don't see him as the calibre of player that's going to make teams in the CL take notice, he's a good young English player but that's it, it's a big drop from a Ronaldo, Bale or even ADM down to Harry Kane and you know Spurs are going to pull your pants down over the price.
In saying that... I think the next player signed might be a CB... :) Utd are going to struggle to seriously challenge for the EPL or the CL without signing a top CB, watching Jones/Smalling would make an onion cry, Simon Barlow and Bobby Beale would be better in there.}
23 Jul 2015 01:58:53
I heard it was because Van Gaal stole the flake out of Zlatans 99.
{Ed007's Note - Don't believe everything you see on Sly Spurts Views.}
23 Jul 2015 08:24:00
Make an onion cry, hahaha, I literally spat my morning coffee out reading that Bond.