Manchester United Banter Archive May 23 2012

 

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23 May 2012 23:36:37
I should really know a bit more about this than I do but can anybody tell me a bit about Powell? I never thought he'd sign for us or that we'd even look at him so I didn't bother watching him when I've had the chance...any thoughts on his ability and potential?

The Moon.

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23 May 2012 23:24:31
General question to the Eds. Are the Eds that rotate on this particular site the same ones that watch over all of them, i.e. the Liverpool, City, and Chelski pages?
Cheers,
Sparty On {Ed004's Note - Only a few Ed's have the authority to edit on all the sites. I think only 4 of us do. The other Ed's are all assigned to one particular site unless they request to cover another one if it is receiving a lot of traffic...However I tend to stay away from some sites more than others and I am sure other Ed's do the same...}

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23 May 2012 22:58:11
Do anyone else think with the players fergie is trying to buy, we are gona change formation next back to the 4-3-3 instead of the 4-4-2

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23 May 2012 22:40:39
Personally I like Baines, Hes English, at a good age and got that wonder of a left foot. Yes he is a midfielder converted into a full back, but isn't that what so so many of you on here wanted to do with Bale?

He isn't the greatest defender, but i'm sure SAF will turn him into a quality full back, don't forget when Evra first came to United he was around the same age and wasn't the greatest for the first few seasons!

Hoppy

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23 May 2012 22:39:49
If and I say if we sign hazard and shinji for an estimated combined fee of say 45-50m how much money will we have to strengthen other areas?

I think we need about 5 players to be able to compete on the European stage.

2 full backs, 2 midfielders and a striker.

What does everyone else think?

Philiphs93

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23 May 2012 22:29:49
Hitting screamers has nothing to do with how good your foot is. Nani cannot pass with his right foot letalone his left and Di Maria is absoutely awful. he was terrible at Benfica and he's terrible at Madrid. At times this season Mourinho has opted for Marcelo to play on the right hand side which says a lot about Di Maria's ability. A left back over a Right winger to play right wing....

Bale is miles ahead of Di Maria while also being a couple of years younger.

Bale can defend, play through the middle and cross on his stronger foot, Di Maria can do none of these things.

Sorry but I don't rate him in the slightest.

and Ed, I assume City are looking at a winger because they don't currently have many, it's good to have a plan B incase things aren't going your way.

The Moon.

Nani can't pass? Oh dear. Yet Bale can play through the middle? Are you being intentionally stupid?

Percy

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23 May 2012 21:55:07
Does anyone know if we have signed nick powell. I think he would be a great signing as he can play in midfeild and up front and he is still very young and has the potential to be a united legend under SAF

united for life 97

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23 May 2012 22:19:54
Cam i just say that baines is the best left back in the pemier league and one of the best in the world. Most assists for a left back, most goals for a left back, less driblled past left back. It would take a bid of at least 25million+ to get him.

Kaz {Ed004's Note - Yet Ashley Cole starts ahead of him for England and was easily my man of the match vs Bayern....}

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23 May 2012 22:19:39
Kagawa scored in Japan's friendly today. Really hope we can sign him, top quality player imo.

Sparty On

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23 May 2012 22:15:01
just been on the city page to look at the hazard rumours
theyre discussing the prospect of signing vidic........
brendan

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23 May 2012 22:09:37
Hazard is not going to to s**tty they have too many players that play in his position, he's not going to Chelsea as they don't even have a manager at the moment and sure they change manager every year, the only question regarding his proposed move to man u is if we would pay the fee and more importantly the wages but that seems to be answered now so I do expect he'll sign for man u and I can't wait to see how ferguson uses him!

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23 May 2012 22:08:32
Reports suggesting we are ready to meet the £25 million buy-out clause for Lavezzi as we are trying our best to compete with the likes of City and Chelsea with big money signings.

United4Ever.

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23 May 2012 21:57:32
ed shut your little mouth, you dont know anything about the club, some one asks you are united interested in this player all you seem to say is No, No NO nO no you twit {Ed004's Note - Keyboard warriors are out in force tonight... You do know it isn't compulsory to have an inside source to become an Ed. I am here just to post up responses that I have heard from other Ed's and to post up posts from other posters. I am not here to say we are trying to sign every player that has played a good game one time or another to keep childish little posters like you happy. You upset I said one of your wet dream signings isn't signing, such as Lucas Moura or someone else? Surely it is way past your bed time?}

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23 May 2012 21:59:11
Why don't we break the bank and get RVP? We need another forward why not get the best, that would be a huge statement to City. Welbeck isn't going to be the man, more of a super sub, jury still out on Hernandez
Also any thoughts about Clint Dempsey? He would be great and relatively cheap.
So much dead wood to get rid of that should free up a lot of cash.
Park
Fletcher
Rafael
Fabio
Carrick
park
Anderson
Berbatov {Ed004's Note - Carrick, Rafael, Anderson, Fabio etc, *sigh*}

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23 May 2012 21:58:17
I would just like to ask this pierluigi gollini I have seen him 1/2 times and he looks terrible I wonder if anyone can fill me in of he's any good or not ?

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23 May 2012 21:56:05
i apologise in advance for metioning none other than mr eden hazard. i understand he has agrred terms with 3 clubs and will make a decision after the belgium england game. is anybody aware of the way in which hazard spoke with utd, eg directly to fergussion similarly to lagawas meeting with fergusson. or via club representatives ? as i have not seen anything in regards to this. also people are saying that we dont need hazard as we have nani valencia and young on the wings, i personally think if we did get him he would play behind rooney in a central position allowing rooney to stay up top alone... thoughts ? {Ed004's Note - I think Kagawa will be played there}

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23 May 2012 21:40:15
This is from a french site, reported at about 8 o'clock this evening! Was in french so excuse the poor google translation but if you have half a brain you'll make sense of it..

This is Manchester United who has a large advantage for the signing of young Lille Eden Hazard. According to relatives of the player, the nugget Belgian took the decision last weekend to join the club led by Sir Alex Ferguson and was even about to announce.

Galvanized by his decision finally taken, Eden Hazard was about to reveal his choice this past weekend. The information revealed by football365.fr Sunday evening, is confirmed according to our information. But his advisers, who are still discussing with Manchester City and Chelsea, would then be encouraged to take his time. "Nothing is done anywhere" told us a few days ago the player's agent.

United, the choice of the heart?

In fact, Hazard actually looking for the Red Devils since Sir Alex Ferguson personally presented him with an ambitious project is the cornerstone, but no contract was signed yesterday and as yet it has not affixed his autograph at the bottom of an official document, the player does not take the chance to announce his decision while some details remain to be solved. Especially in recent weeks, the young Belgian has often changed his mind. According to reports from England, United could not afford to align contractual offers made by the City and Chelsea player. Hazard would be willing to do this "sacrifice" for the financial choices of the heart but its representatives may be trying to make him understand that it is good for him to reflect further. However, an agreement would be very close on a contract basis for five seasons.

Ozwald

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23 May 2012 21:26:11
seeming as pogba looks due set to go to juventus i was looking through their squad and noticed a young player called gabriel just 17 years old but looks good and plays in the same position as pogba. i dont have a lot of info on this player but it was just a suggestion.
pg14

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23 May 2012 21:25:37
Just like to say f**k Paul Pogba,if he doesn't want to play for the biggest club in the world juventus are welcome to him,I for one think he will regret it coz I wouldn't mind betting Ravel Morrison does,here are two KIDS who could have been living the dream,they don't know how lucky they are.Ant D Rhondda

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23 May 2012 21:22:05
Does anybody know anymore about the Olivier giroud deal? Apparently we are ready to meet montpelliers asking price. Don't know much about him apart from he just won the league and banged in 25 in all comps.

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23 May 2012 21:20:26
Dribbled past 10 times eh?, must of only played 1 game last season!

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23 May 2012 21:20:23
Who does everyone think we will get for the cm role because if we get kagawa or hazard they won't play there someone more defensive we will need? {Ed004's Note - Carrick will play there again. Fergie rates him highly}

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23 May 2012 20:51:48
Le10sport are reporting that hazard favours a move to manchester utd.

le10sport.com/football/france/ligue1/hazard-avantage-manchester-united-63059

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23 May 2012 20:08:49
Just an interesting thought here in terms of squad registration, with outgoings/more than likely out goings this is the squad we are left with that has to be registered:

1. De Gea
2. Lindegaard
3. Amos

4. Smalling
5. Evans
6. Ferdinand
7. Vidic
8. Evra
9. Rafael

10. Carrick
11. Scholes
12. Giggs
13. Cleverly
14. Anderson
15. Park
16. Valencia
17. Nani
18. Young

19. Rooney
20. Hernandez
21. Welbeck


As you can see there is 4 spaces available, this is using the assumption thought that Kusczack, Fabio, Bebe, Berbatov, Owen (gone) won't be here next year. Also I have left at Jones and Pogba if he is still around as they don't yet need to be registered. So it seems to make sense for 4 signings to come in for around the £60 million mark as that is what we allegidly have available to us. That would leave us being able to sign the likes of Kagawa, Asamoah, Baines and then sign Hazard who wouldn't have to be registered so perhaps 5 signings could be on the cards if only 4 were of registerable age.

Added to that further space could be made, Amos is expendable, Johnstone could take his spot as he doesn't have to be registered.

Of course, we must be mindful of how many players we bring in as more players like Jones will need to be registered the following year. However the likes of Evra, Giggs, Scholes and Park will leave space in the squad.

So overall, everything points to us plenty of transfer activity, we will want to start the season with a full 25 registered with the odd one who doesn't need to be registered. The squad size will get smaller next year two, these next two years will be crucial for us as there will be a lot of places up for grabs.

RedDevil19

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23 May 2012 19:48:46
Nuri Sahin to Milan. Interesting....

Guessing someone else were not bothered with. {Ed004's Note - Wonderful player but would he suit the style of play we are trying to incorporate by the looks of it...}

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23 May 2012 19:14:41
Edds, Just a quick question. Which Team page gets the most traffic/views/activity?

Jam {Ed004's Note - Liverpool or as of late Rangers. Both have at times 200+ posts waiting to be edited}

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23 May 2012 18:59:57
Joey barton banned for 12 matches and gets 75k fine.

Not much of a punishment

LUHG

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23 May 2012 18:37:18
For all the people who think that it wasnt a good idea on passing on eather marin or Podolski, i can tell you... it was. Marin is not used to Physicality at all and falls every 2 seconds. Podolski can only play in his home town of Cologne. You can say that because he was at Munich for a couple of years and really f**** up...
In my opinion we should really go for Hazard, Kagawa, and especially for Mats Hummels from Dortmund. He is Germanys best Cb and would be a great addition alongside Vidic (if he comes back...)

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23 May 2012 18:17:30
Syd
I think my last post went missing

As normal I will have to explaine it you , pogba may see Juventus as a step up he may of supported them all his life but I would of thought it has more to do with money. Pogbas agent will do well out of the deal agents always do but at the end of day it's pogbas choice we have made him a good offer if he decides on Juventus then it will be pogba who as the last word so you can't JUST blame the agent.
Pogba is only 19 and this will be the second time he has walked out on a club , now he may stay at Juventus but then again this may be a trait of his and Like many other players before him he may move from club to club putting money before football
One of the edds said a while ago that it was pogbas advisors who were the real problem it was them who changed agents in the hope of getting him a better deal

In short I am saying you can't just blame the agent
Is that better pal
Jred

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23 May 2012 18:14:30
My brother applied for a season ticket a few days ago and they said they would contact him, does any one know if he will be contacted after Fridays deadline in which he will know what place he is in the waiting list?

Would appreciate it if anyone could give help me?

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23 May 2012 17:56:34
If we do lose Pogba I for one will be very sad as we have lost a quality player who will go on to be a world class player. It just enforces the fact that United are trying to get young players on very low wages. Pogba is not stupid and knows his value. Any of you who has watched him progress through the youth sides and reserves will know how special he is. Sad day if he is going but probably not the last. I AM KLOOT

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23 May 2012 17:28:50
Does anyone know when the list of players who will be released at the end of the season, will be announced?

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23 May 2012 17:19:53
just found out hazard is def goin to united. a good friend of mine is an agent and he no's hazards agent well. he said the player got a good offer from united and thats were he will be playing next season and he will have the no7 shirt. this is not a rumour its fact! my good friend wouldnt tell me this if it wasnt true

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23 May 2012 17:02:39
It is hilarious all the comments about getting bored with Hazard, etc and 'its schneider all over again'. The transfer window has not opened, the boredom comes from people on here all going on and on about this player and that. Then it will be the Glaziers fault, then SAF. They are not the ones going on about all these players, in fact there have been very few official comments re players - not very surprising since the transfer window is not open, and it is certainly not SAF's style to openly talk about players till the deal is settled - its the papers and people on here! Oh and if the Glaziers are so thieving etc then why have they actually put a bid in for Hazard?

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23 May 2012 16:55:01
INS:

baines 12m
clyne free
powell 3m
kagawa 15m
hazard 30m
TOTAL: 60M

OUTS:

berbatov 10m
macheda 2m
park 1m
TOTAL: 13M....TOTAL SPENT: 47M

TEAM:

-----------DE GEA-------------
RAFAEL-VIDIC-SMALLING-BAINES
-------CARRICK-KAGAWA-------
VALENCIA---HAZARD-----YOUNG
------------ROONEY------------

or

-----------DE GEA------------
RAFAEL--VIDIC-SMALL--BAINES
--------CLEVS--CARRICK------
NANI------KAGAWA----HAZARD
-----------ROONEY-----------

JK92 [Banter please ed]

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23 May 2012 16:38:30
a lot of people seem to be blaming pogbas agent for his proposed move to juventus but lets be honest the boy has a bit of history.
he walked out on le havre for united and they were raging at the time reported us to uefa and accused us of buying his parents a house. Bet there laughing now

also dont forget he only moved to this agent this season when in was in the final year of his contract could it be, he moved to an agent he and his advisor's new could get him a good deal at another club
jred

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23 May 2012 16:36:08
"It's not that, it's the fact that you're saying Bale has a right foot, that he can pass and that he's consistent. You've called Walcott better than Di Maria and Pedro, for me that signals that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Percy"

- I said Bale has a better right foot than Nani's left. You can't exactly argue with that either.

-you called Di Maria and Pedro better than Bale...

so for the exact same reasons I can say that you quite clearly don't know what you're talking about. Okay, I rate Pedro higher than Walcott but Di Maria is like Walcott in that he has no end product either, he can't cross and his shooting is p1ss poor.

The Moon.

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23 May 2012 16:31:54
baines going nowhere he on a 4 year contract it cost utd double what papers say

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23 May 2012 16:31:28
I'm getting really annoyed by all the selfrighteous Pogba bashing by arragant fans who think that any player who has the audacity to reject a United contract must be either stupid, greedy or most likely both. We nabbed him off Le Harve when he was 16 by offering more than they could. By all accounts we offered as much as we could to his parents in order to seal the deal, and Le Harve, despite putting a few years into developing him, got a pitance.

We don't know the ins and outs of the deals being offered to him. We know that his agent will gain from him moving to Juve, but we don't know anything aside from that for certain. Instead of getting up on high horses and calling the lad a turncoat, greedy etc. We should be asking why we waited so long to get contract talks going, why he didn't feature more in a season where our midfield was at its weakest point in decades, and why Fergie decided to beg Scholes out of retirement rather than take a chance on youth like he had promised to?

It's really easy to criticise a 19 year old lad while singing Rooney's name every week after he got the biggest deal in the club's history by threatening to leave. And if Pogba wants more money so what? It's not as if the extra money is actually going into developing the team. It's going straight to Glazer debt.

Danny Pughnited

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23 May 2012 16:29:23
Hazard has agreed terms with 3 clubs, so if the money has been agreed he surely must choose united for football reasons. Cant see us getting leighton baines as we need a RB first as Evra allthough he was average last season can still do a job. If someone moves for Jordi Alba this summer expect us to match there offer.
The rumours about Javi Martinez seem to have died down and we only ever spend £50 mil so cant see us getting him unless we sell Nani or dont get Hazard. Any news on cavani (Allthough we cant afford him)??

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23 May 2012 16:16:55
The problem that keep coming up for me as I look towards next season is that I am torn between my hope that United will evolve tactically to a much needed 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 option (or even 3-5-2, Ha!). These more-fluid formations require flexible, two-footed players. While I do think the 4-4-2 is getting a bit stuffy, I do love the manner in which Valencia is able to simply bomb up and down that area with pace and trickery, but he is soooo one-footed. It's a testament to his abilities that he is able to perform so well even when opponents know his tactics. What are people's thoughts on his ability to adapt to a new system? Will he just be the odd man out when we are looking for something else (I don't think we'll fully abandon the 4-4-2 just yet)? I think he is just too good to have on the bench very often, but can he evolve?

Windy City Red {Ed004's Note - I think the sunderland game and city game where examples of the type of play we will begin to play next season. I think we will see Kagawa and Hazard brought in to play in a 451 formation and offer us a more fluid attack.}

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23 May 2012 16:12:56
Just something to think about here, are we looking at a summer (like the last one) where we go for players of the £10 - £20 million bracket? And getting a few of them. There are a lot of players linked to us that are of this price range where there seems to be serious interest, for example Baines, Lewandowski, Kagawa, Gaitan etc. The only realistic player outside of those numbers is Hazard. I think if we don't sign Hazard we will sign someone for the left as well as a striker, where as if we sign him we won't see a striker come in I don't envisage.

RedDevil19

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23 May 2012 16:10:09
Firstly, i'm pretty sick of this Pogba stuff. I personally am sick of him and the story, i can barely be bothered to read the headlines that he is in. He is such a let down after we have developed him. I hope he goes to Juve, he will be something like 6th choice midfielder and will be sent out on loan to an average side when he could of had first team football here.

Secondly, i don't see why there is so much negativity towards Baines. Personally I don't rate him that much, he does seem to get turned by fast players. And he is probably a couple of million over priced. But like someone posted on here earlier, he is a bit of the Denis Irwin type of player who is just very solid. That in many ways is what we want, he does deliver a very good cross/freekick/corner which we can utilize as our deliveries from set plays are generally rubbish.

Lastly, its interesting to read of Dortmund's interest in Berbatov, Luuk De Jong and Bendtner. Are they looking for a replacement for Lewandowski should be he leave? I'm not saying that Lewandowski is United bound, and i'm not sure if we get Kagawa and Hazard that we would need him. But he would be a good option who is very powerful and very very clinical.

RedDevil19

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23 May 2012 15:48:26
lets get munain kagawa asamoah and izaguirre in and possible powell and henriquez .
along with petrucci and tunnicliffe we'll be fine let forget about pogba and hazard let them go where they like say what they like
im getting bored of hearing about them two its sneijder all over again june 2nd will come and we'll get he wants a few more weeks transfer saga are about agents and players getting the most they can thats there perogative

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23 May 2012 15:00:20
Regarding Pogba, Raiola was'nt really the problem but 2 French agents around him who are a bit "difficult" to deal with. I believe any deal had "image right" sticking points which can make deals more complicated. Someone mentioned his parents for guidance and I asked the same question to an agent months ago when this was dragging on. His response was : "your assuming his parents are like you or I, and that they would make a sensible decision, quite often the parents are easily influenced also". I don't mean this in racist terms either but African origin families/people can be vey easily swayed by money. Italians clubs also tend to over exaggerate their offers. Just the way it is for now I'm afraid.

Supasub

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23 May 2012 14:58:04
The POGBA situation doesnt make any sense at all.

It was reported today that Juve chairman came out and said they have lured Pogba away from us.
Its been said for a long time that Juve have more or less agreed to sign Pogba.


If that was the case why would SAF allow him to be played in the Senior Cup ?

Ed any comments ?

MUMBAI_BOY {Ed004's Note - I don't know if it is as black and white as you portray it}

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23 May 2012 14:20:26
if a team wants a good player then man city will go straight in there city won't win the league next year it was a 1 off opertunity for them they only one in goal difference aguero,dzeko,zableta will all leave mancinni better watch out!!

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23 May 2012 14:22:51
great 'player' lost, but loyalty gained by having 1 less turncoat around

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23 May 2012 14:11:38
rio ferdinand is old let smalling take his place evens is terrible

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23 May 2012 13:40:45
Nani is crap, too inconsistent for our level.

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23 May 2012 13:23:16
What about Iker Muniain from bilboa,he's only 19 and can play on the wing or else through the middle,wud rather sign him instead of hazard any idea how much muniain would cost ed?? {Ed001's Note - they offered him around at 40m Euros in January.}

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23 May 2012 13:00:59
Everyone jumping on baines we were all in agreement that we needed a new left back and he has been massively constistent over the last few years, and in a better team he can only improve does not rely on pace so has got a right good few years in him excellent crosser of the ball and excellent at free kicks and pens, am sure many of you who are old enough would have said all the same things bout a certain dennis irwin before he arrived and baines reminds me very much of him and if he does half the job I will be delighted. For 12 million I think he could be a great buy Glen Johnson went for 18 million for gods sake let hope we can pinch fellani to sit in front of the back four add hazard kagawa and striker to this mix or if not a striker someone like a modric or cabaye and with cleverly given chance to show his early season form and keep hold of pogba which I know looks unlikely that would be a fantastic summer!

Darren the red

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23 May 2012 12:57:12
Patrice Evra was asked about the Eden Hazard situation and retorted at a press conference: "I'm not his father but, if he comes to Manchester, I assure him that he will win titles. That's if he joins my Manchester not the blue

G.A.G.U.S

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23 May 2012 12:55:09
Given the way the rumours are spreading thick and fast, one hopes that we actually will sign a few good players this time... i am taking all this in with a pinch of salt though as last year we got the same crap and then a lot of it petered out...

Assuming that there is going to be genuine activity this time, I would hope for something along the following lines to happen

INS: Hazard, Kagawa, Clyne, Powell and Izaguirre. I think depending on how much we make from sales we might have one of Llorente / Lewandowski / Henriquez / RVP (outside chance) coming in as well. Sadly I think Kovacic is a no go.. and not Baines as LB please!, especially not for 12M when Izaguirre is apparently available for 7.

STAYING (Contract Extensions): Brady, Fryers, Tunnicliffe, Petrucci and Rio should definitely be signing extensions hopefully. Pogba I dunno but am keeping my fingers crossed. Am sure there would be other contract negotiations too, but really wanted to point these people out in particular.

OUTS: Berba, Kuszczak, Owen, Park, de Laet, Evra (I hope) should surely be leaving. I also think Nani / Young, and Anderson would be leaving as well if the right offers came in. Along with Fabio and Kiko, and depending on who we get in, can see quite a few more loan deals as well

With Rio, Vidic, Evans and Smalling all available for the CB role; along with Rafael / Clyne on the right, and Izaguirre / Fryers on the left - I think this would be a good season to get Jones consistently playing in front of the back four. Having a settled position would help him a lot, plus being a defensive minded midfielder would really help him improve his positioning and long term probably help him develop into a truly classy centre back. If we go for this, then we could have Pogba staying and Tunners being loaned to a PL club (hopefully) or Tunners staying on and getting a decent amount of game time...

Let me know what you guys think.

TIPRA_REDDEVIL

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23 May 2012 12:41:47
we all know to have a good season you need a good squad, so what would yours be for next season?

gk
1 de gea
2 linegaard
3 amos

def
4 rafael
5 clyne 1m
6 smallind
7 vidic
8 ferdinand
9 evans
10 evra
11 baines 12m

mid
12 carrick
13 fletcher
14 cleverley
15 scholes
16 giggs
17 pogba/asamoah 15m
18 kagawa 12m

wing
19 nani
20 valancia
21 young
22 hazard 34m

str
23 rooney
24 welbeck
25 hernandez

the likes of jones, tunners, fryers are u21 so they dont ned to be registered

thats a spend of 59m if pogba stays

outs
berba 8m
anderson 8m
macheda 3m
park 4m
bebe 4m
thats 27m

overall spend of 32m

REDP

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23 May 2012 12:08:40
Juventus general director Giusepee Marotta has said they a very close to the Pogba deal so looks like he's on his way. Gutted if we lose him, He's gonna be a top player in the future

Dylan

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23 May 2012 10:28:30
doessnt anybody think that we should find a new right back .... i mean if we have to compete in europe and become the best is rafael enough to stop the likes of ronaldo,ribery or even hazard (if he doesnt signs for us)
and is a 31 year old evra enough to stop robben sanchez or messi................ we saw in this years UCL when even coentrao and marcelo struggled an front of robben......... although coentrao might not be the best but then too evra is losing his defensive abilities due to his age
and finally cant rely upon ferdinand when he is losing all his sharpness and pace while jones and smalling are atleast 1 or 2 years away from being best ....... vidic need a full time partner like hummels or subotic or may be vertonghen
i am not saying that rafael,jones,smalling are bad but there is still time when they will be world class

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23 May 2012 09:42:51
At the risk of repeating myself - It is uncanny how if you replaced the name Hazard with Sneijder this forum would look EXACTLY like it did this time last year.

Here is the script that will come out of Old Trafford after the season tickets have been renewed and paid for ...........

"The boy Anderson will be like a new signing and Tom Cleverley has been unlucky last season with injuries but will make a large contribution this season - Scholes has agreed to play another year and his ability and impact is in no doubt after last season, he still performs at this level and his and Ryan`s experience are invaluable in the BIG games. We expect a lot of the younger players to kick on this season and they are all hungry after last year`s disappointments - We have a strong squad and the new signings (insert name of cheap(less than £20m) and low salary young player here) will give a new dimension to the squad and have settled well during pre-season. No question about that.
We were never in talks about Hazard and there was very little value in the market because of the Euros or (City or Chelsea or PSG or Madrid or whatever other club isnt owned by the Glazers)"

Listen, the fact is that until the IPO in Singapore is over United is all about reducing the wage bill and not spending large amounts of money other than reducing the size of the amount owed by the Glazers.
Whatever happens at the end of the transfer window add up the wages of the "outs" like Berba etc and then figure out the wages of the "ins" and you can bet that they have saved money on the balance sheet.

Once again, look to last year and you will see what it is all about.
Out - Neville, Brown, O`Shea,VDS,Gibson, Scholes etc etc - ALL BIG salarys and the likes of Ashley Young, Phil Jones DDG etc will not be on salaries any where near that total amount.
The other little wages "trick" is to put players out on loan "to get experience" - Total BS - They are out on loan so the club doesnt have to pay the wages and feed them in the Carrington Canteen.

See if Im wrong - Even Gill has been saying the same old "Big deals in the offing - Busy transfer window" rubbish.
Yes, we will be busy, busy selling and bringing in cheaper players to the stable that dont eat as much hay.

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23 May 2012 09:25:58
I know this is another post on Hazard but I'll take the stick. I genuinely believe we are firm favourites to sign him. Chelsea have bid for Lucas Moura which seems to indicate they are looking at other targets, plus if the signed him and Hazard where would players like Sturridge or Marin get in the team next season? According to the press for the last few days City's interest seems to be waning, obviously the papers will report what they need to sell papers but there has to be a degree of truth as the reports have been fairly widespread. Now we usually do our business very quietly and the Hazard camp are coming out with quotes about how there are agreements in place etc and it sounds like the kind of deal we usually do. Kagawa has gone quiet as well so IMO that's good news as well.

I think realistically we are looking at 4 players coming in Hazard, Kagawa, Baines and a forward (whether it be a youngster or established)

Rjmanutd

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23 May 2012 08:03:27
I said Bains would be done before the euros last week also fellaini will be coming to

Stockportred

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23 May 2012 07:59:04
Solksjaer has spoke to Randy Lerner but decided to turn down Villa, he has chose to remain with Molde for family reasons.

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23 May 2012 01:28:56
All this Hazard business is getting real old, real fast - and the transfer window isn't even open yet! Just the same, one thing is for certain, if he comes to United, he will immediately dispel any questions that may surround him regarding attitude. On talent, he has the ability to hold Europe hostage and, realistically, there are more than a few interested clubs that possess the funds and shameless spending habits to pip us if they like in terms of transfer fees and salary. Let's face it, Sir Alex is "The United Difference.' Like many great things, he draws and he repels in equal measure. Players who want to run roughshod over thing and play the 'big time charlie' game will lose that battle every time. For others, the opportunity to receive guidance and, perhaps, earn the grudging admiration of such a man can be the additional payoff that puts us over the top.

If Hazard comes, I believe questions regarding his attitude will be settled. Moreover, we may finally see another Ronaldo-type talent set Old Trafford alight. Great days ahead, regardless. If we snatch Kagawa, I'll be thrilled enough.
He's a stone cold assassin AND a rising international star from a region of the globe that has a certain (cough) appeal that can help sate the Glazers and their bloated balance sheet. It would be a wise decision on all counts.

Windy City Red

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23 May 2012 00:54:32
Heard from a very good source that Jose has a release clause in his Madrid contract written into the extension part of the new contract?.......

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23 May 2012 00:09:57
Apparently United have opened talks with Everton for Baines. I think he's a solid left back, but for 12 million pounds, I think we could do better, but SAF knows what's best for the squad. I think this shows that United do have money to spend this summer.

My thoughts on the Hazard ordeal, I think, like many on here, that he may have chosen United as he is not talking to the press nearly as much. Maybe, maybe not, we'll have to wait and see.

I hope with Berbatov leaving that Welbeck is rewarded the No. 9 shirt. I think that he's going to be fantastic and he's developing really well.

I think that a realistic starting 11 for next year is

------------De Gea-------------
-Rafael-Smalling-Vidic-Evra-
-Tony--Carrick-Clevers-Nani-
----------Welbeck------------
--------------Rooney---------

My hopeful Squad is....

-------------De Gea-------------
-Rafa---Smalls---Vidic---Evra-
-------Carrick---Pogba--------
-Tony------Kagawa----Hazard-
-----------Rooney--------------

So many different formation possibilites. I like the 4411 and the 4231 adaptation of a 451.

Sparty On

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