Manchester United Banter Archive May 23 2014

 

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23 May 2014 23:10:33
Now the Luke Shaw deal has supposedly stalled so that's off. Go Ed Go you can rescue defeat from the jaws of victory still

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It's starting to look more and more likely that this summer will descend into a farce again. A few days ago the signings of both Kroos and Shaw were supposed to all ready to wrap up in a bow. Now Kroos is a no go, Shaw is up in the air, and Evra has a new deal.

Moyes was supposedly sacked because the club didn't trust that he was the right man to take the club forward. However, even with a new manager the club seem to be struggling to back it's professed ambition with any real actions.

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23 May 2014 23:08:25
So we rule out going for kroos and now the guardian are reporting the deal for shaw is stalling?cant see why we are messing around with this deal surely they don't think evra can play week in week out all season?

I was looking forward to the close season and was expecting some good players to come in and freshen the squad up but the last couple of days are starting to feel a hell of a lot like last Summer but let's just hope these reports are wrong and ed proves to us he actually knows what he is doing!

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You do know the window isn't open yet?

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Same here mate, i'm starting to fear a repeat of last summer. Don't think Van Gaal will take to the clown that is Woodward.

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23 May 2014 22:50:42
David luiz to psg for freaking £50m msjing him the most expensice defender . I mean wats the point of imposing penalty if they keep buying the same way .does tht effect shaw deal with chelsea having money to burn.

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Perhaps it means PSG will be selling some players to balance the books?

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{Ed002's Note - Of course they will.}

23 May 2014 22:06:45
Hey Eds, do you expect this Shaw deal to go through with Evra getting a new deal? Or is it likely we're looking to offload Buttner?

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{Ed002's Note - I have no expectations.}

I thought you might say something like that ;)

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23 May 2014 22:12:56
Why is Phil Neville still at the club?

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The way things are going he might get a game

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23 May 2014 21:31:44
Sweet Jesus has the world gone f£$%**g mental David Luiz £50 mil! what the hell are PSG playing at.

There is obviously a glitch in the matrix as Evra has got a new contract too. I am waiting for the that Bayern have bid £70mil for Grant Holt and Dame Edna has bought Villa and given Roger Milla and 8 year contract as striker/groundsman.

I might start watching golf it seems a lot easier than this Football game.

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Haha my thoughts exactly, it is an absolute joke and makes a mockery of the whole transfer system. Is a bit of a worry though as everyone else's price could now rocket up

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Told you Felliani was a bargain :) hehe

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23 May 2014 21:00:06
Interesting tought for pole of the day if giggs is to become next manchester united manager should he have proven himself at another club first

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In my opinion yes. It's a bit like being an apprentice and tapping out and having to go and get another job. It's a good thing to get a lot of varied experience

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For me definitely, if he doesn't have the courage and the willingness to move from his comfort zone at United and manage for a couple of years elsewhere, he shouldn't be considered for the United job

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Would you all say the same about Guardiola. He went from player to reserve team coach to first team coach at Barcelona. He has since gone to Batern and although they have done well there are now some question marks about him as a manager for the first time.

Every situation is different and we should not stereo type any individual.
Some managers are only cut out to manage the big teams with the big budgets whereas others are good at putting together teams that perhaps survivie on a shoe-string.

Mourinho is a top coach but would he achieve much at a club like Norwich or West Brom etc.

With all that Giggs has experienced under Fergie and now perhaps under LVG if things work over te next 3 years it may be that he is ideal to work as the manager for Utd.

Only time will tell and your views may be right but at the end of the day there are two versions to this story.

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23 May 2014 20:43:10
Well it's bin a day of mixed emotions on the transfer front, 1st the Kroos deal we all thought was done is now off which I am gutted about, he is everything we need but we have somehow messed that one up again, then ssn confirm that James MacArthur is a top transfer target. Which doesn't go down well with a lot of you guys. Although I don't like the idea off it sounding like he is our main transfer target, he is a very good and proven premier league player, and would walk straight into our midfield, I heard a whisper that MacArthur is our 3rd choice so I'm guessing Kroos and fabregas was 1 and 2, and there out of our reach, we really need to make a statement in this window but I have a bad feeling, I've never bought into the fact there's a 200 mill kitty to spend, it's too good to be true, then where linked with reus, Kroos, muller, hummels, fabregas. ect. ect and there never going to happen. Last year we was going to sign Ronaldo, bale. We was out for the best players in the world! Nothing happend, we talk the talk,,, but if we want to make a statement then do what psg have done. We can argue that David Luiz isn't worth the 50mill but psg aren't bothered about that. There getting the deal done.

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23 May 2014 21:19:03
Haha McCarthy not MacArthur. my bad

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McCarthy is not our main transfer target, ssn are as reliable as the 'in the know's' on social network sites. Did you have a bet on us signing him, that's what they will have been after.

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Guys this time tomorrow the Kroos deal could be back on. Just look at the papers today, some are saying it's still on and others not.

You can't believe what they are saying so take it all with a pinch of salt because at the end of the day they are trying to sell papers and no one really knows if Bayern is playing hard ball or Kross is messing about or Lvg pulled the plug.

He was a long shot and certainly won't be the last player go get linked with the club.

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23 May 2014 20:19:46
I ran in to Ed Woodward this morning outside a s****y London hotel. He was reluctant to shake my hand, until I assured him that no deal was being closed. Apparently he had an emergency flight to catch. "Bermuda Triangle?" I quipped

Anyway, I thought I'd have a cheeky ask on the kross situation. Ed: "why spend 20 million on a player this year when one can lose out on him on a free next year"

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23 May 2014 19:11:39
Hi does any eds know which players we are after signing because 1 minute there's a big hype on certain players coming in and the next minute L.V.G pulling the plug?

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{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

23 May 2014 20:01:57
On another note macheda released, good luck to him, anyone who was at the villa game will appreciate what he did, can't believe he didn't get more of a chance or developed more.

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23 May 2014 18:58:10
Patrice Evra has signed one year contract extension!

What does everybody think about this?
Hopefully just to provide cover for new left back, hopfully Shaw.
Where does this leave Buttner?

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Great news . Good guy in the dressing room and also would be cover for regular left back.

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With the Kroos deal going from on the brink to completely off in the space of 24 hours, and now Evra signing a new deal, I can't help getting the feeling that it might be another summer of nearlys. Player using us to leverage his club, check. Past it player offered one year deal, check. All we need now is to pay an inflated fee for an average player who doesn't improve us and we're there.

If we bring in Shaw we have no need for Evra. He played in 35 of their league games last year, so unless Evra is being retained for cup games, I just don't see the point. The reality is that Evra won't want to be playing second fiddle in his last seasons at the club, and I'm not sure what he can teach Shaw.

The alternative is that we have stuffed up the Shaw deal, and that's a worrying thought.

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Gutted. his lack of defending has been shocking for the last few years.

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Well we lost a lot of xp with Rio, Vidic an Giggs all going and he's a big popular character in the dressing room. as long as he is back up

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I think he'll be used sparingly. Agree with Mort - we're losing a lot of experience in one go. No matter what people think of his defending, he knows what this club means, and he'll let any new boys know it too.

The proviso being of course, that he is used sparingly.

I really hope it means young Buttner going, rather than the alternative.

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Well on the bright side, manchester united helps not only the players that play for manchester united but also players of other teams. Its so touching. How many players have got whopping paydays because of us is really heart warming.
Here is what I think happened with kroos. He never wanted to leave munich and just wanted a large salary increase. So he baited us. Bayern caught the bluff and told him that he could leave. This is probably why a figure of 20 million was quoted which was agreed between the two clubs. Now, he had to back off and hence his statement yesterday. I think he'll end up signing the contract closer to bayern's terms than his own

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Could possibly be the worst signing we make this transfer window. I'll be gutted if this means we don't get shaw now, everyone knows we desperately needed a change at left back.

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Great news. We are well on our way now and need a few more good signings.

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I wonder if Buttner is going to Southhampton as part if the deal? That why Evra signed for extra year, then you LB in under 21's getting promoted for season?

I have NO. Confidence in Woodward at all

Thoughts?

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23 May 2014 18:34:59
Well peeps,

With Evra getting a new deal is our captain sorted? he is after all vice captain or would most expect on here a new one regardless? I no if Shaw came he wouldn't play as much but rememebr we have had Neville in recent times as captain not playing regularly.
Thoughts?

P.s AJH, loving the sarcasim atm the moment, the scary thing is of all your posts they still ain't as crazy as some of the suggestions on here lol.

On the should we go for Lampard debate, in a word no! Never really rated him tbh, and as for Cole no thank you!

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Cheers Chris

I was particularly pleased with the Gareth Barry suggestion but then I saw I had been gazumped with Lampard and Cole. The mind boggles

Tony

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Hows's the wee fella doing, Chris? Still good I hope?

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How about joe Cole?? loll :p

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Hey Stevie long time no see.

Yes all is going well so far thanks mate, its still unbelievable he pulled through, but so great he did.

Hes a miracle, every doctor we see look at his papers and give the same reaction lol.

Thanks for asking buddy, hows you?

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{Ed007's Note - Good to hear that Chris.}

Singh I think you might be on to something there my friend lol

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Great stuff, mate. Was thinking about you and the family while I've been off.

Had a close family loss, so had to take time out for a wee while.

Just feeling my way back :)

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Lol Chris I am also really glad to hear about your lil one. I thought ill join the ajh bandwagon.

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Thanks bond mate, hope all is well your end and your over the Lennon departure ;) (I know u were not his biggest fan, me neither)

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Hope all is well with u too mate, I must admit I dnt regular this page as much as I used to atm, way to many downers and moaners during this part of the year lol, but having said that its good to see a lot of the regulars making a return.

Not to mention Bond and his quirky banter along with Ed25 (even though a everton fan) on the arsenal page which was amazing. There was fast becoming a Love in building up between the Gooners and Scousers a while back.
Dnt get me wrong i'm all for friendly banter but both pages were becoming a lonely hearts forum.

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Thanks Singh, Yes AJH is very good and throwing out a few lines and grabbing some bites when u least expect it lol.

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Great to hear Chris.

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23 May 2014 18:28:22
What do you reckon guys Shaw in, Buttner out or Evra new contract Shaw doesn't join?

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23 May 2014 18:25:46
Evra has signed a new contract extension

Had a lot off slack this year, but his love for united is worth giving him a new deal

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Sorry but no! Love of utd doesn't stop the goals going in against us just like evra doesn't help stop em! But a crazy thought what if evra was used as left sided winger?? We know he can't defend but he'd be far better than young?

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23 May 2014 22:14:13
Evra is a good guy and if we sign shaw who's to say evra won't be just as cover? Aslong as we get shaw I'm happy for evra to stay.

And left sided winger I just don't think would work personally lad

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23 May 2014 18:24:10
ssn reporting that Evra has extended his contract. Let's hope that it does not mean we won't be signing another LB. let's hope he is staying to offer support and be back up whilst the new LB beds in.

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23 May 2014 17:59:48
we should snap up ashley cole and frank lampard. they'd be great squad players and better than Evra and Cleverley.

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Ahahah

a joke right?

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Evra signed 1yr extension

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Lampard, cole, are you serious?

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Let's see if zola is available while we are at it

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23 May 2014 17:58:29
Lampard seems to have been released, would anyone offer him a year or two to put some leadership on the pitch and maybe help to develop one of the younger players that we seem to be linked with?

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23 May 2014 17:45:58
The departures of Ryan Giggs, Rio Ferdinand, Nemanja Vidic, Jack Rudge, Jack Barmby and Federico Macheda from the playing staff have been confirmed by the club

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23 May 2014 17:38:33
Patrice Evra signed new contract then. What's everyones take on this?

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I thought he was a cert to leave to be honest. I love mad Pat but he has been a liability for so long now. I hope the Shaw deal still goes through. But I've never seen as someone to be happy On the bench, so a bit worrying.
I'm not surprised at how the whole Kroos situation has progressed, seems par for the course these days. Still it's not all doom and gloom, we have a new manager and funds appear to be available.
But in a worse case scenario, we have another calamitous transfer window, how will everyone react and what will happen to Woodward?
Hope Atletico win tomorrow

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23 May 2014 17:33:13
Gareth Barry is available on a free. Worth a punt surely

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Definitely, a CM of Barry and Lampard would be amazing. Get Cole and Sagna for the fullbacks and Eto'o up top and sell Rooney. We'd be unstoppable next season.

Come on LVG, get it sorted.

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Definitely. I was thinking maybe Seedorf for the midfield too and Danny Blind at the back for some experience. Never mind Daley. Both would fit into the system and are Dutch.

Rk16

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Sheesh, rumbled.

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The glazers would be happy with this plan!

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23 May 2014 17:25:13
Kronos, Fabregas, Vidal, reus, Claise. We can but dream.

I think, deep down, we all know that LvG brought in to re galvanise the troops, sort out the dead wood and to get us playing exciting football again. And I also think he was chosen because of his track record with young players. So, sorry, but maybe one or two signings (Shaw - if it ever happens! - and maybe new midfielder enforcer such as Strootman or Carvalho) and the rest of the team will be from current squad who will buy into his philosophy (such as Januzaj, Mata, RVP) emerging youngsters (such as Powell, Wilson, Pearson, Lawrence, Varela, Keane) and maybe a couple of young Dutch talents to boot (Martins and Claisie) also think he'll convert a few of the existing players into other positions: Valencia (attacking right back) Jones (midfield) and Rooney (AMF)

As much as I want proven players, I think his first priority will be to engrained his quick passing/possession game into the mindset of United (senior and youth) to get a top 4 finish next year THEN maybe go big and get world class players in once they can get Euro competition again.

Obviously, might be completely wrong, but LVG is his own man and is confident enough to believe that he can turn young players into a winning team so long as they follow what he says to the letter.

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23 May 2014 17:24:36
Looks like evra has a new deal! Hopefully the shaw deal complete, we can't afford to miss out on him

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Confirmed now, he has been poor for years so experienced or not he should have gone. Either we aren't getting Shaw or Buttner must be going.

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Personally I think it's just keeping a familiar face in the dressing room (hoping so!)

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23 May 2014 16:38:24
Fresh you asked there if I think McCarthy could stand up to yaya and fernandinho? Well would Kroos? The answer for both is no. The way to combat playing someone like toure is to play around him, do I believe a midfield pairing of Strootman and McCarthy could? Yes I do. What people don't realise about McCarthy is he's not the biggest midfielder in the world but he puts his foot in, he's strong, tenacious and very good on the ball. Why wouldn't we want him? Just because he isn't German or Spanish doesn't mean he can't play for Manchester Uniteds starting 11. These days we are all caught up with big names who will cost 50+ million. McCarthy is not a squad player he would start for most teams in the league and he is undoubtly good enough to play for us. I for one would be right behind the signing of James McCarthy (not saying we will) and that's not because I'm Irish it's because he is a quality player

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As some else said I would have him before strootman.

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But how much would everton want for him? I wouldn't have a problem if we was available for around 15-18 million but everton could want something like 25-30 million. For that sum of money, we'd want someone much better and accomplished.

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Ive always rated McCarthy, I suggested signing him before he went to Everton but was shot down on here by a few.
He has everything a CM should have. He again has stepped up this season and I expect would again if he left for a big club like ours (tounge in cheek stef)

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Caolan, if you think james McCarthy is the standard of player we should be looking at to reinvigorate our shocking midfield, you need your head testing! Will he take us back to European elite status? I don't think so! I could name about 30 better CM in the premiership who are better than what we have. That doesn't mean we should sign then! Tiote is better than what we have shall we sign him? If we are to get anywhere near the top 3 sides from this year we need oriven players on European stage.

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I was going to say name the 30 then you mentioned Tiote o dear.

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Mort, can you read? I said 30 better midfielders than what we have. Not 30 better than McCarthy . Shall u name 30 better than cleverly?

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I do wonder what the modern fan obsessed with fancy Latin names would of made of signing Roy Keane from Forrest if it was now.

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Chris, exactly what I was thinking. I don't think we can solely rely on McCarthy making the step up to become another Roy Keane so I would say we need an already world class midfielder as well.

But your right in saying there would be more McCarthy love if his name was Jesus Martinez

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23 May 2014 15:21:04
Forget the James McCarthy rumours. Its rubbish.
Anyhow is Wes sniejder in the Dutch squad?
How old is he now?

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A question to Ed 002.
Are you a journalist?

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{Ed002's Note - I am a rodeo clown and part-time gentleman adventurer - rather like Adam Adamant.}

Ed is your preference the hand zapper or the flower water squirter?

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{Ed002's Note - Flower of course.}

Adamantine= diamond.


A clue?
Neil diamond :D

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Gentlemen adventurer?

chippindales in Vegas by any chance?

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Ahhhh of course I nee dent of asked, an intellectual u are :)

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24 May 2014 06:57:22
Ed02 - just as I suspected

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23 May 2014 14:15:35
To be fair, I don't buy into these McCarthy rumours at all, I think it's all rubbish unless it was for a swap with Cleverley because he is awful and McCarthy would make a better squad addition. The way the press are talking though we have gone from one week wanting Kroos and Robben to wanting McCarthy and Konoplyanka! I personally think that we are still in for Kroos, Bayern want to play hardball and we don't want to look silly if Ed cocks it up again.

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Yesterday a story breaks that after that after months of chasing the player united don't want kroos
the following day kroos say united never an option.
sounds to me kroos has been using united and doesn't fancy the move and united are trying to save face

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Your not getting McCarthy you lot think you can click your fingers and get what you want. Also you won't get Barkley neither would want to go to you so go away please and stop thinking your club is every players dream Moyes is gone now from Everton we won't roll over anymore for yis. Martinez pulled the wool over your eyes with Microphone head 30 mill so if you want to even try get James start your bid at 100 mill please lol good luck next season reds only a bit of banter no offence meant.

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I said from day we was linked to kroos he would just be using us to get a contract why would he leave one of the best teams in the world atm to join us, crazy the amount of utd fans who actually thought it would be pulled off

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I think we will know more before the World Cup I think. Will be interesting to see if the reports swing the other way or interest in Fabregas goes up a lot.

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Jred

That is my impression too, I always thought buying a top German youngster from Bayern would be very difficult and was surprised that many thought it was so likely, hope i'm wrong and there is still a possibility but we'll see

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"so go away please" I could have sworn this is the united page, where do you want us to go? After all there is a story in the media linking us so this seems a good place to discuss that, no? For the record I don't want McCarthy and i'm sure he's very happy at Everton. Stay calm

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Oh look its Stef the blue the guy that post once a year.

He must have tennis elbow and decided to give his arm a rest

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Stef the blue we don't want any if your players thanks, I predict Everton will finish 8th next season.

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Redevil great name by the way, yes I only post once a year on other sites cause I stick to my own page. Even when everybody else ripping the bollox out of yis last year I stayed away see I only posted a little bit of banter mate no harm done in any way smile a little mate you might enjoy it.

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23 May 2014 14:11:18
With talk of all the Dutch national players floating around (Obviously because of Van Gaal), has anyone considered what it would be like to bring Leroy Fer in? I know he's not Toni Kroos or Cesc Fabregas, but with Norwich relegated, and him having Premier League experience, would he be worth a shout? Personally I'd prefer a fully fit Kevin Strootman. I'm sure people would challenge it, but I had to mention it!

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I would consider it scraping the barrel.

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Literally just posted a similar thing. Fer would be a great addition to the squad, he is powerful and fairly quick and for me should take Fellaini's pace. I have been saying yes to signing him for a couple of weeks now. He would not play every game obviously, but he could be useful in some games and in rotation. Not a bad player at all and it was by no means his fault that Norwich got into the state tha they did. He will be a bargain price as well as he will want out and Norwich will sell. Over them little over £5 million and we have got ourselves a very useful player.

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On the Norwich pages they seem to rate him as one of their worst players, in a terrible season.

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23 May 2014 16:34:19
So you would sign Fer over McCarthy?

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Anytime I seen fer this season he didn't impress, seemed very lazy when we played them

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MrE. Personally I wouldn't buy either because there are much better options out there ie Kroos fabregas koke etc. but if you have a read of my post again it was merely a way of engaging people in conversation, because I'm rather looking forward to the transfer window. So please, just because I suggested someone who wasn't in the newspaper in this thread, don't feel too hurt mate!

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Fair enough people! If we miss out on the big names, who would be your bargain buy for midfield?

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23 May 2014 14:05:03
Best of luck to Jack Barmby who has joined Leicester. Another one of our players that will make a decent addition to a lower class team - we produce a lot of those (I think the League should thank us;)

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We had quite a few who would make a decent addition to a lower level team playing in our first team last year.

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23 May 2014 13:41:47
David Luis off to PSG for £40m. Surely we must try a late bid for him. £40m is a bargain, and he is just what we need.

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But he's not Dutch!

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Haha, joinng the AJH bandwagon there I see with 'just what we need'!

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23 May 2014 14:02:38
A defender who doesn't defend?

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Joking aside, this deal if true is crazy. The world of football is going mad. PSG are already failing to meet the FFP rules, so what do they do? Spend £40m on David Luis. Makes sense.

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Betty
i would guess they are selling cavani

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I hope it is true, could really do with a good laugh. absolutely insane if there is any truth in it.

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Maybe cavani going to Chelsea?

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Yes, Lucas Moura and Cavani are potential outgoings. Cavani sale would more than cover it, and Lucas would mostly cover it.

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£50m now supposedly, it gets better. 50p and I'd consider it.

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I understand that the sale of Cavani would cover it from the FFP point of view, infact several times over. Cavani's fee would be classed as a one off income, whereas the purchase of Luis will be his total fee divided by the length of his contract (in years).
My point is that to pay the reported (if true) £40m+ for Luiz is, in itself, madness.
I think that will be 3 times in 2 years that PSG have broken the world record for a defender, though I'm sure someone (Ed perhaps) will correct me if I am wrong. I often am :)

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The reported fee is mental, I would of thought chelsea would of took 30 mill, did psg really have to go as high as 40/50 mill.
He isn't really in the first 11

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The fee is not what is being reported. I think it is lazy journalism and not worth the debate. What is interesting is who is PSG might be selling, Lavezzi, Cavani, Moura, Pastor?

They would also still need a second striker if Cavani is going, Makes you wonder if we see some massive players changing clubs after the world cup :))

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23 May 2014 10:42:59
Toni Kroos has said he will not be joining Manchester United this summer. Edd002 do you think this is Kroos decision or van gaals decision. bit gutted he not coming but hopefully van gaal has someone else lined up

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{Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}

Nothing can be taken for definite though, there is still some hope.

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There never was hope, he clearly used our name to get a better contract

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23 May 2014 12:25:56
Why all the negativity from everyone towards McCarthy? If I recall right quite a few people on her last summer were suggesting we sign him. We didn't and he has had an excellent season, just because we were linked with Kroos he all of a sudden isn't good enough? Yes Kroos is a better player, but the way people are talking is we've just turned down Ronaldo to buy downing. James McCarthy is only 23, has huge potential and would be a huge improvement on our midfield. Who knows what the transfer window holds, but for me this seems very negative towards the lad because he isn't a player know world wide. I'd gladly take him

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I was thinking the same, I think it is the name really, if it was a nice sounding foreign name everybody would be saying he was great, because it isn't he isn't good enough according to most people.

In my opinion he would be a good signing as long as it was also with a top class midfielder as well, after all we have been saying we will get 3 world class and a couple of up and coming players. I think people would want a world class signing to be made first before a young player, that's the issue.

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A question, do we need world class midfielders or do we not have enough squad players? He would start for us, and that is really quite bad. Would he get into the Bayern team? The Barca team, either Madrid team? Not a chance. He will not sufficiently improve us.

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McCarthy should be nothing more than a squad player, yes I would swap him for Cleverley but he is by no means the priority. We need a world class pairing to transform this team, second best won't do.

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Look at all the young dutch lads everyone wants .
We the get linked to a young proven player in the epl and the same people are up in arms.
Gds
Is spot on imo

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Fresh! Your point of saying things like would he make the bayern and Madrid side is not fair. There's lots of quality players who don't start at these clubs for example would you turn down illramendi from Madrid because he doesn't start every week? I doubt it. Right now we have no champions league to offer players which will make it hard to attract the top top players. Vidal and co are out if reach by the looks of it so what is wrong with James McCarthy premier league proven with lots of potential, just because players aren't world beaters doesn't mean they aren't good enough for united.

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I think the issue is last summer he was available for a price that reflected his ability. Now Everton have him they will want a price that exceeds his ability (going by the previous examples of Baines and Fellaini). The money they would want would be better spent elsewhere.

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He would be a good squad player, superior to Cleverley and Fellaini. But we really should be moving for better players that are starters, we have a packed enough squad as it is. If LVG does want a squad player that can come in and out at the team he would be better looking at Leroy Fer to be honest, much cheaper, a bit bigger, stronger and good on the ball. Would be an absolute bargain - And no, I haven' said him because he is Dutch.

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23 May 2014 14:08:01
Id take him, him and a top class player.

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Sly have removed the McCarthy report it was obviously carp

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I'd take him if we can get him for under 20m. Failing that, I'd settle for 25m plus Cleverly

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First, I don't think we are in for McCarthy (we should have been in for him last season) because Everton won't sell unless we pay the same type of fee we paid for Fellaini.

But, McCarthy has proven himself to be a very good top flight midfielder and he's still developing his game. He's better than every single one of our current midfielders, and than a lot of the young dutch players we are being linked with. In fact, I'd wager that he would be a better player for us than Strootman.

I agree with those saying that most people wouldn't have this reaction if he was a young player in a foreign league. Would he get into the Bayern, Barca or Real teams? He gives a crap, he'd waltz into our starting eleven. If we had signed McCarthy instead of Fellaini last season I can guarantee that we would have been a better team for it.

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If LVG plans to play 3 in midfield then we probably are short on numbers as well as quality?

Jones: never a midfielder and now he's one of only 3 senior centre backs hopefully he won't play there again.
Carrick: fine, probably be phased out over the next few years though.
Fellaini: future in doubt according to the papers.
Giggs: retired.
Cleverley: future in doubt, squad player at best.
Anderson: KFC.
Fletcher: not really recaptured his form since his illness.
Kagawa/Mata/Rooney: not really a centre mid, maybe the furthest forward of a 3.

I'd welcome a stop gap squad player along with a quality addition or two, just would hope we don't blow too much budget on squad players.

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Caolan, our midfield is awful! Do you really think McCarthy and some other average player will stand up to Toure and Fernandinho?

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The criticism of Mccarthy is harsh saying he is not good enough he has been very good everywhere he's been and if he went to a bigger club he would step up again imo. Plus its a squad game and our midfield squad wise is terrible. Plus I see him as the type of player lvg would want a high energy player always does his job tactical. He would be a very good signing but pkayers like him never get the recognition they deserve like carrick when he was playing well nobody mentions it. I would try and bring in players from the epl this season anyway with just domestic trophies to play for imports might find it tough as where I think epl experience would be handy in most recruits this year and then If we get back into cl worry about signing the type of playersnfor that competition. Because we lacked combativeplayers last year is exactly why we did poor in the leafue. So I would like Mccarthy or schniederlin players of that type who had good seasons in the prem it would add much more bite to our midfield and their energy should help with the problems we had last year when we didn't have the ball

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You would honestly be happy with United BLOWING 25 million plus on James Mccarthy. The worlds gone mad!
He's a better player than Cleverly granted but is he better than Carrick who I think is very average now?
Sorry James Mccarthy doesn't cut the mustard for me. For crying out loud this is the biggest football club in the world when are we going to start acting like it and start buying class players?

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McCarthy is being massively underrated here. If he could be got for £20m, it would only be of benefit to United.

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23 May 2014 09:27:48
And TV are now linking us with James McCarthy, thoughts Bond? ;)

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{Ed007's Note - Total fantasy as far as I know, mate.}

23 May 2014 10:32:56
There are 32 teams playing in this World Cup. Everyone of those teams has at least 2 players for every team position. eg. left full back etc.
And yet the media still churn out the same 4 / 5 players to be linked with United.
We have our new manager out there and in the thick of it.
Lets be realistic here and try to understand that things will be going on that we will never hear about and neither do the papers because they repeat the same rubbish on a daily basis.
Keep believing in United.

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23 May 2014 10:25:54
I don't mean to worry us United fans but James McCarthy has now popped up as one of our transfer targets according to ssn.
Im not saying this is true but if it is god help us. he's hardly the kind of player that is going to get us back to challenging for the premiership is he. I just pray to god that this isn't true.
Even more worrying is that Everton paid 13 million pounds for him so if we are interested were going to have to cough up at least double that. 25-26 million on an average player.
Everton must think all there Christmases have come at once, first they pull our pants down for Fellaini and now this.
We have to buy two world class midfielders. Fabregas, Kroos, Strootman, to name a few not bloody James McCarthy.

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Agree with all of that, Simmo. Particularly the last paragraph!

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Exactly, Simmo.
McCarthy's a good little player and if we signed a world-beater with him, we'd be fine.

But I'm already getting the feeling that we'd sign McCarthy and some £10million unheard of Dutch midfielder. Which of course, could end up being a fantastic partnership that nobody saw coming.

But it could also leave us with yet more 'adequate but not great' midfielders. If we want to get back to the top 4, we need proven quality, not potential.

I have a feeling Ed Woodward is going to have a lot of egg on his face yet again this summer when all his talk of 'world class signings' falls flat.

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Its a team game lads, he wouldn't score us that many goals and wouldn't be top of the assists charts but he is a good player and would be an improvement most of our current midfielders.

Yes, Yes I know we should be going after world class players, but not all of our signings are going to be at that level.

Saying that I wouldn't pay what Everton would want for him considering they paid over 13 Million pound for him. The would probably be expecting double. that especially if we include Cleverly in that deal.

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Well nobody really rated Henderson either, but look at Liverpool without him, the little things are never looked at, yet matter the most, McCarthy is well traveled, strong headed footballer, he's only getting better.

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I still don't rate Henderson.

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23 May 2014 10:12:10
Moyes must be a good shout for the celtic job

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I thought the same thing last night. I thought before that Moyes would be ideal for Newcastle, but now the Celtic job is up for grabs, I think he is the perfect fit. Hope he does well up there if it happens. Maybe he would take Fellaini off our hands too? :)

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I hope he takes Fellaini there with him!

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23 May 2014 10:56:51
I was thinking the same. Any comments Bond?

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{Ed007's Note - Please God, NO!!!}

Yes, I've heard he plans to make it difficult for Inverness and aspires to be Dundee United

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23 May 2014 10:04:35
Not to worry boys, were after James McCarthy now apparently

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Dreaming of Kroos, fabregas and Vidal and ending up with McCarthy – seems legit

Welcome to another Manchester United transfer window

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Good player and getting better all the time

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WOW.

That will have Barce, Real Madrid, City and Bayern Munich quaking in their boots.

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Wow from kroos to james mccarthy we are in for a dramatic summer and transfer window is stil not open and we are linked with evry1. But in case we are intrested in him then why not instd opt for morgan schniederlin a better player I gues

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What a relief.

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James McCarthy is a very good player who will only get better and would be a good signing

He may not be a flash player but if you watch Everton he's a very intelligent player who does an important job for the team and is a good passer of the ball
If he played for Dortmund / Feyenoord / Bilbao half the posters here would be raving about him

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23 May 2014 09:43:04
"I would be very surprised [if Bayern let me leave before end of my contract in 2015], " he told Bild. "The club was very clear and told me that a transfer in 2014 would not be possible."

"There have been many speculations, but Manchester United was never an issue and is no issue right now."kroos

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23 May 2014 09:26:00
Not sure what to believe about this Kroos debacle. Some say that the deal is still on, Graham Hunter says that we can have Schweinsteiger if we want him but not Kroos. Kroos himself has said that he is staying to see out his deal, does this mean we want him next year? Others say that the top target is Strootman. Everything seems very up in the air, next thing will be that the Shaw deal is off.

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I think our main target this year for midfield is either vidal or fabregas. fabregas seems more like it but I would be livid if we only signed strootman as our only midfielder.

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Fresh!, I'm not trying to wind you up again but you really need to take all these stories with a bucket of salt. The papers and twitter etc are full of sh@t every day. What they don't know (which is a lot) they make up. Personally I won't hold my breath on any of these targets until they have been officially signed. Even the Shaw deal is not a sure thing, so no point fretting about it being "off". United are always nothing if not "top secret" about transfers.
Wait and see what happens when the transfer widow actually opens :)

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Singh, Vidal is the one we want I am sure of that but we have no chance of getting him. And will Fabregas chose us over Arsenal? Not so sure myself.

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Fresh, To be fair if it comes to arsenal and us I have a feeling fabregas would choose us .

Like you said our main target is Vidal but I just don't see him moving unless we make an ridiculous offer which united are not used doing so.

I just hope if we do go for Strootman then I would prefer another playmaker next to him and I don't think Strootman will be enough to sort our mf problems.

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It is amazing you think fabregas would pick us over arsenal the guy is one of them loyal players why would he go to a direct rival to a team he supports and loves?

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I don't believe in this love for ex club, this is 2014 times have changed and money talks.How many ex players you seen come back to united? .

I think Fabregas would want to go to a team that would valur him and where hr could play his best football not saying we are the one but wouldn't believe fab would go to arsenal just because he loves them and arsenals main priorities this summer lay in other areas.

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23 May 2014 09:20:00
"Kroos is a top class central midfield player but united need five or six to get anywhere near the top of the premier league again"

"Its a massive task and there's a big gap to fill to catch city, chelsea and liverpool next season. United are a long way behind.
If Van Gaal gets them to the champions league it will be a start"
Scholes

i agree with this, united need a massive summer and top 4 will be difficult next year.
If we don't get the right players in I think top 4 would be out our reach

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As he says, Woodward has so much to prove. If he fails then he has to go because his ineptitude was embarrassing last year.

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After years of silence Scholesy has finally found his voice.

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23 May 2014 09:07:08
Kroos has come out and said that we were never an option so someone is lying as apparently a deal was in place under Moyes. I am just getting the feeling that Woodward is a major factor in our ineptitude in the transfer market, Shaw wants to come to the club the club want him yet it is still being dragged out other top clubs identify a player then sign him. NO matter who the manager is Woodward when Woodward becomes involved the deal seems to stall. Again this window every player with at least one leg is being banded around in the press as a transfer target. For all there faults Real Madrid tell the world who they want and they go and sign them are we not supposed to be as big club as them, yet were are afraid of announcing targets in case they don't come off and it look alike a failure. We have been operating like this for years and as a result have lost out on signing Ronaldinho, Robben, Ozil, Moura, Thiago, Hazzard. Its all good LVG being a top manager ho a lot of top players will want to work with I just think that Woodward must be horrendous if he still can't get these players to sign

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I must admit that our deals seem to take so much longer than someone like Chelsea. We are months negotiating it seems.

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We was never in for kroos just like we was never in for Thiago Alcântara last year, kroos clearly used our name in hope to get a better deal

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23 May 2014 08:54:06
All these rumoured transfer targets from Bayern Munich have no chance of materialising. Surely no one can forget how they played hard ball when Utd try to sign Owen Hargreaves back in 2006. It took a whole year of negotiations to finally land him in 2007. They are a club who will let a players contract run down.
I just hope that LVG ( with his foreign contacts )has other players in mind otherwise it could be another bleak transfer window ahead. Fingers crossed.

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23 May 2014 07:39:38
A little depressed this morning with the Kroos saga. Is it going to be a normal United transfer window? With new management upstairs and down surely we have changed our transfer ways? Will the Kroos thing put other players off? It's never dull is it?

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23 May 2014 07:22:25
Not sure why Rooney has gone public with his desire to be captain. If he is hoping to put pressure on LVG he is probably wasting his time and if it is given to someone else, he now can't laugh it off.

His 'time to deliver' quotes are interesting too. Here's an idea Wayne, stop talking about it and do it.

The most sensible comments I have seen for a long while about Rooney this week came from Scholes - balanced, fair, and accurate

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He was asked a question and answered it .
I agree on the scholes article.

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Here here!

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23 May 2014 06:59:25
Guys iv just ordered my first ever season tickets at united.
Does anyone else get the feeling this coming season will be amazing.

I don't think we should be worried about signings just yet. Let's be pacient. LVG won't mess this up

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23 May 2014 06:38:05
LVG pulls the plug on kroos Deal!

I say good he was only after the money!

I know people keep thinking we buying all these players but I really think we will just buy 4 players that are going to energize our team!

shaw
clasie
Martins indi

the 4th being the stellar midfeilder.

We don't have 200 million or even 150 million that everyone is talking about.

Hope some people agree on this rather than thinking we are getting 6-7 world class 30 million plus players

have fun guys
glory glory man utd

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23 May 2014 03:49:09
So I heard tonight that Kroos told Utd chiefs that if they were in the CL, He would have no problem in signing for us.

LVG believes that Kroos was just teasing us in hopes of getting a better Salary at BM. With the latest statement from BM that Kroos will not be getting a better offer, Utd chiefs had brought talks forward only for kroos to say he would like to move to a team in the CL.

LVG has told Kroos that he should pick his toys up that his attitude would not attract other teams and to prove it he çalled of the offer

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If that's true I like LVG's stance.

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Kroos would be an excellent signing but I am with LVG if it is indeed true. Very strong leadership, exactly what is needed.

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Absolutely. It was being prepared to be strung along by players/agents for ages (who didn't really want to come to Utd) that contributed to our debacle last transfer window. Fair play to LVG, if this is true.

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