Manchester United Banter Archive December 24 2013

24 Dec 2013 20:47:35
Merry Xmas all posters especially the current influx of other clubs posters who seem to appear every so often when they have a good run of results. So yes merry Xmas to the ones who currently visit our page but will probably disappear later in the season. I look forward to the banter with the new arrivals later in the year and for the start of next season once the current ones like the others who've visited our page realise that they don't support the greatest club. That pleasure belongs to us on this page as we are Manchester United and are here to stay. Many thanks to the eds and maybe one day we could learn their true identities or what they do for their day jobs. I've got my hunch of one or two.

24 Dec 2013 18:08:06
Ill take this moment now to wish you all a very merry xmas (syd go easy on the jd) big thanks to the eds for all their hard work they put in to the site, and thanks to all the posters for making this a good year.

:-)

{Ed007's Note - Cheers CTR, have a great Christmas.}

24 Dec 2013 15:30:45
Eds and all the posters on here, Merry Christmas! I hope we have a better start to 2014, than our finish to 2013!

24 Dec 2013 14:59:24
hey all happy holidays
what do you guys think of james ward-prowse. seems like he could become a top midfielder.
any one who watches the french league, how has Florian Thauvin been playing. in the summer he played well in the u21 world cup.

eds any chance of making a move for either?

24 Dec 2013 14:44:00
Regardless of the points and where we are. I definitely like Moyes way of boosting Team morals and keeping up the Manchester united spirit! With appointment of Nicky Butt and Scholes as Coach in our youth. With Neville and Gigss becoming coach for senior players. It sets a strong Manchester united spirit in whole club. Which is crucial for future of United.
Asked if he would try to bolster the squad
"We will try in January, " he said.
"I am quite actively looking at our own boys. The likes of Jesse Lingard, Nick Powell and Ryan Tunnicliffe.
"We have quite a lot of boys on loan and they are the ones I am making sure we keep eyes on. They are the future. They are part of the club. They have been in the system. We hope they might be able to come back and help in if we need it in January."

That alone gives huge moral boost to out young players. I am sure when they read this, it will only motivate them and have them working harder. Obviously with Januzaj being a first team regular now. It sends message to our young players that if they work hard enough and if they are good enough they will get their chances! Regardless of Pogba and Morrison, I felt that young players not getting chance only sends a wrong message to youth players.

And now I am so happy with what he said about Rooney.
"What Wayne is doing is making the others play well because he is playing well. He has turned himself into a real team player, "
"With the assists for the team and the goals, his all-round contribution has been fantastic."
"He (Rooney) needs to show the young players, " Moyes said. "He has a big responsibility to show the next generation the standards that Manchester United set.
"You go through the years and look at people like Ryan Giggs and the advice he gave to Wayne Rooney. Wayne has now to give it to Adnan Januzaj and the new players coming up."

Rooney seems to be the player who needs these encouraging words. And he is regularly on Team of the week. Last year he played crucial role. Playing in that hole, working his socks off with tackling and assist. He is now 28. He probably have a good 5 years in him. If he stays for the rest of his career at United, he will definitely set a new record. Not only that Moyes encouraging words might help, direct and give Rooney a more important Role in club, not only as football player but as mentor and a role model.

So overall I am very happy with the progression of our team. I definitely would like January signing of Midfielder( someone who can hold and pass the ball around) a partner to Phil Jones and long term partner to Fellaini(Once he finds a form). And possibly Coentrao on loan.
And then in summer we can add another Midfield, Lb, and Winger and possibly bringing players depending on availability and out going players.

So onwards and forward we march!

24 Dec 2013 13:52:46
To all the Eds and fellow posters, both friend and foe, hope you all enjoy a very Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year. Heres to a healthy and happy 2014, and hopefully a successful Manchester United.

{Ed002's Note - Have a good time and try and keep out of trouble.}

Will try my best Ed, at least until my tag is removed lol. Have a good 'un!

24 Dec 2013 11:05:49
Hope everyone on here eds included (who do such an amazing job, hats off to you all) a very happy, peaceful and safe New Year! :)

{Ed002's Note - Thanks and enjoy.}

24 Dec 2013 09:23:43
Merry Christmas Ed's. You do a great job on a site I read every day.

After last night don't think there is too much in this race for the title and top four. Need a few above us to drop points, so that is my wish for 2014.

we're never die.

24 Dec 2013 09:06:19
For anyone that mocked my valuation of Barkley, I'm very happy with Martinez for doubling it and stating a clear "Not for sale"
Merry xmas.

24 Dec 2013 10:17:05
I rate Martinez highly and I really like him as a manager and he comes across like a nice bloke. But he is seriously deluded if he thinks Kenwright would turn down anything over 30m for any Everton player.

So Martinez can say what he wants, but until Kenwright says he'll only sell Barkley over his grandkids dead bodies then he is very much still available for the right price.

Because you say so Shappy? Lay off the player manager games kid you've lost the plot, Moyes is bringing back loan players so that says it all.

I can tell you now that Barkley is under contract and NOT for sale even if Manchester United or indeed anyone else came anywhere near breaking the transfer record of 86 million - but there again Moyes would probably offer 20 million for Ross and Leighton, the cheeky t**t.

24 Dec 2013 11:48:18
Baz its just the reality of the situation. Your deluded if you seriously believe that Kenwright wouldn't sell for the right price. Half a season of good form doesn't a big club make.

Whats he done so far? not a lot you can keep him, powell is as good a prospect and scores a lot more goals

Bloody deluded martinez and he is grand standing. What 3 good performances and they think he is messi LOL. He is a decent number 10, but a farce to start talking about this guy anything more than middle tier.

All you guys need to go for a check up after the new year. I swear I hope we don't even go near him as there is so much better out there.

Wait till the end of the season they will finish 6th and someone will buy him and they will take the money and run. 20-22 million I reckon.

I would buy him for 20 mill tomorrow the lads going to be a star.
I think he will be more a box to box player providing a driving force in the middle of the park

Jred, me too, but I think we have ruined any chance we had of signing him sadly.

Syd
To be honest I hope he stops at Everton for the the next 2 year and really finds his feet as a footballer.
To many young players move to early imo the lads improving all the time why move.
But money talks

Jred, again, I couldn't agree more. But if he decides to move on there will be no shortage of admirers. Both City and Chelsea would be interested in him and with no allegiance to us, City or Chelsea, he could choose any of the three and I feel City and Chelsea could offer him more. I think we have missed our window.

Sydney

City and Chelsea are like graveyards for guys like him and he will sit there on the bench collecting dust.

Jred

I disagree with your view on him being a star and let's wait and see where he is in 24 months. He is limited as a number 10. How many assists does he have and how many goals per start. He is not a good enough passer or distributor to play further back as a holding midfield either.

Decent number 10 for outside top tier clubs in england, spain, germany, spain. Where he is actually is the best place for him 6th/5th place team maybe europa league, who knows.

I had them finishing 6th but with pool playing the ay they are, I think they will finish 7th.

GcU
I disagree, for various reasons I've seen him play for the Last 5 years.
In 24 month he will be the best English cm in the EPL.
The lad is only 20 and would of been playing first team football at 18 and be fully established by now if he hadn't broken his leg.
He will go with England to the WC and will be England's next big thing.
And he's not a number 10, how much of him have you really seen, honest question

24 Dec 2013 22:54:24
Shahram, I rate Barkley but he's not a no.10 and he never will be. I feel he is being played their do that he can hone his attacking instincts before he gets moved back into a more box to box midfielder role. I also think that he is being played further forward atm so that he can learn the game before he is given the responsibilty of a more rounded and more disciplined role which requires more defensive work.

If he was thrown into the heart of midfield now it could effect his confidence if he has a bad game as it would likely effect the result of the game. So now he's playing in a role that has less responsibilty and there for less pressure while he develops. Sir Alex has done similar things when blooding youngsters, with Rooney he played him on the left to help develop his game, with Scholes he played him further forward while he developed both physically and as a footballer.

I see Ross Barkley playing a similar role as Bryan Robson or Steven Gerrard. An dynamic box to box player who'll be putting in a vital tackle on the edge of his box one minute and charging forward with the ball the next minute or getting on the end of a break away and scoring. He'll be a player who drives his team forward, but you can't put that pressure on him yet so he is playing further forward while he develops as a footballer and mentally before he takes the mantle of team leader.

Jred

I have not watched him week in week out. I have seen him 10 times probably and generally look at teams and focus on who influences things the most. He is definitely not the biggest influence to Everton's form and it is the back four and Barry and Osman, who are the guys responsible for pulling the strings. Their wing backs are excellent defenders and very good going forward and having Lukaku upfront opens things up for guys like him.

The reality is you can't play for 90 minutes as a number 10 and not have a few good moments in the game. The question that remains is he being overhyped or is he going to develop into something of a star as you believe.

Shappy does have a point that eventually he might be a box to box midfielder and this is just a way of getting him seasoned. He does nothing for me as a number 10 when you think of guys like Isco, Oscar, Matta etc etc who are much better technically and tactically.

So when you look at our team, we have better number 10's that includes an 18 year old:)who will be a star, rooney, rvp and what we lack is a creative midfielder and box to box if you play a 4231. in a 442 we need a creative midfielder more than a box bro box and he does not fit our requirements.

I think it is far too early to tag someone as a star as there are no guarantees they can make the transition to something that is not in their nature. i.e Anderson comes to mind, looked great going forward in his earlier years but lacked the passing and tactical sense and when playing further back just like a fish out of water.

I might be absolutely wrong but been watching guys like him for donkey's years and 95% of the time they turn out to be just good solid players and no superstars.

Gcu
I very rarely if ever big up the young players as I think u you need to prove yourself but I think this lad will make the grade.
Don't compare him to isco etc he's not that type of player, think B Robson.
He imo will be a box to box player with drive and the ability to beat a player.

A lot can happen and go wrong but I really think the lads a talent

Should also add he is 20 just breaking in to the team his influence will grow

24 Dec 2013 07:58:22
so,
Good morning Guys!
*News:

1. Only One signing will happen amongst this
. Sorry for spelling.
[koke, guarin, herrera, concetrao, barkely, baines, roberto.E, sneijder, di maria, }

Thats it Guys. 7 days left for Txr window

and

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL, also to ADMIN
hope u post this messege admin

Yash_mumbai(i m back)

Yash, good to have you back mate but let's be honest, you've not been brilliantly accurate with your predictions so far have you?