Manchester United Banter Archive July 24 2015

24 Jul 2015 19:50:08
Also on a different Ronaldo point it was nice to see him laughing when he scored against City. We are still in his heart.

24 Jul 2015 21:34:07
Who cares man! what's up with the love story with Ronaldo. Its been over half a decade that he is gone. People feel like he is playing for us still. Jesus!

24 Jul 2015 21:47:32
Some still respect what he achieved with us and what a great player he was for us.

24 Jul 2015 22:11:58
What has respect got to do with it man? He is a legend for us, of course. Just saying 1redarmy was romanticizing too much. I bet Ronaldo wasn't too concerned City were United's rivals.

24 Jul 2015 18:34:26
Interesting match tomorrow,seen a lot of posters last year saying the way he's had us playing will be good in Europe. The barca match may give us an indication as to how will play in champions league this season

24 Jul 2015 18:58:49
He's also said he will play his first team for am hour. Interesting to see who he picks

24 Jul 2015 19:10:28
To be fair we played 3-5-2 against inter Roma and real last year and dropped that part way through the season, I think we will just play a few variants of 4-3-3 depending in who we play next season, probably 4-2-3-1 against the top teams for more defensive cover. I'm just looking for a bit of understanding between the new players coming in, and hopefully a bit more sharpness all round.

24 Jul 2015 19:43:53
What time does he normally say his team I have to have an early night tonight :(

24 Jul 2015 20:54:27
What time is kick off guys?

24 Jul 2015 23:08:10
9pm tomorrow.

24 Jul 2015 17:59:07
Ronaldo -this guy has played over 200 games in the past six seasons since he left us and scored more than 220 goals.He is probably with Messi the most fouled in La Liga .No way has he got dodgy knees he just couldn't play let alone score in that many games.Diaby at Arsenal has dodgy knees he has played 14 games in 6 years .If he is on the move and we don't have him back Citie and PSG will pounce and we will live to regret it.He looked ok again today and he didn't leave on a mobility scooter from what i saw .Its just not true😆😆

24 Jul 2015 19:45:30
I agree and obviously nobody who says he has dodgy knees has seen him jump. You don't get that high without a good set of springs.

24 Jul 2015 21:50:37
Everyone seems to be writing the bloke off he is a phenomenal athlete I would eat my own legs to have him back!

25 Jul 2015 10:03:57
Search Marca Ronaldo knee and you should find an article in February about his left knee. Separately there are plenty of pictures with ice packs on it and in other articles the Portuguese doctor also outlined the issue Ronaldo had. It would be romantic to see him back, however I don't believe he will leave Madrid at this point plus the Premier league may test that knee too much.

24 Jul 2015 16:26:12
How do you solve a problem like De Gea?

De Gea will leave UTD. Whether it be this summer or next, he will go because he wants to live with the one he loves, and be near his family. This is fine, and i am not going to hate him for it. Question is How and Who do we replace him with.

In my opinion, there are only 5 World Class keepers:

De Gea
Neuer
Courtios
Buffon
Cech

After these 5, there are keepers who are considered the 'very good' keepers:

Lopes (Lyon)
Sirigu (PSG)
Ter Stegen (Barca)
Cillessen (Ajax)
Sommer (Borussia Mönchengladbach)
Leno (Leverkusen)
Lloris (Tottenham)
Hart (Man City)
Navas (Real Madrid)
and the list goes on.

Bar maybe Jan Sommer all of these keepers play for top clubs in their respective leagues.

When we signed Schmeichel from Brondby or VdS from Fulham, we had no idea they would go on to become the World Class Keepers they went on to be. Notice also how neither of them came from 'top' clubs.

To put what i'm trying top say into perspective: I've seen Kasper Schmeichel, Tim Howard, Fraser Forster and dare i say it even Rob green play well consitantly for their clubs, and at a top level. Am i suggesting we sign one of those 3? Of course not. What i am saying is that we don't have to spend more than £10m on a keeper. A lot of the time, the club make the keeper. If Kasper Schmeichel was playing for us last season, and he pulled off some of the saves he did when he was playing for Leicester, then that's an extra £10m on his price tag. 100% guaranteed.

United will buy a replacement for DDG no doubt. When our defence is sorted (Later this summer hopefully) we won't be relying on our keeper so much. So we won't particularly need a keeper like DDG who will save us so many points. We will need a good shot stopper with good reflexes who can organise his defence. And here's the bit i'm trying to get across.

There are a lot of keepers in the world with these qualities. Many who may go un-noticed their whole careers, simply because of where they are playing. Add this to the fact Manchester United have one of the best Goalkeeping coaching teams in the world and you'll see that we can get a cheap DDG replacement, that isn't a big name.

24 Jul 2015 13:43:24
Ok, I'll be the 1st to say it, I don't want Ronaldo back. He's now 30, his knees are apparently not great, but most importantly, his ego is ridiculous and it will be a circus.

If RM are prepared to let him go you would have to ask why. He was incredible for us but it's like going back to an old girlfriend, it's just never as good.

24 Jul 2015 14:00:57
if I was van gaal, would save a lot of money and go for Reus od Dortmund, The lad is unplayable on his day and would of banged loads of goals at the world cup, there is time for improvement with him too with regards to his finishing. But if he gets his head down and works on it he will be future player of the year for sure.

24 Jul 2015 15:10:50
I am not saying that we should go for Ronaldo becuase I agree he is an injury risk.

But I don't understand how people have agreed with AJH that we should not go for Ronaldo as his knees have gone but people have gone on to agree with boddey who has suggested Reus who is as much of an injury risk. I just hope those are 2 different set of people.

24 Jul 2015 15:50:06
Boddey, Reus is very injury prone, a great player but never got his move, or proved everyone that he is world class because he spends months out with serious injuries.

Also what do you mean 'would of banged in loads of goals at the world cup'? how can u tell?

24 Jul 2015 16:16:18
Since when has Ronaldo had bad knees.I can't ever remember seeing him injured didn't he just score his biggest amount of goals last season.Any transfer fee is irrelevant to a club yerning success like ours.No way would Man Utd turn down Ronaldo if they were offered him.History is on our side Hughes , Sheringham,and even RVP all top players and arrived after peak years and all were successful .It would be the signing that all of football say MAN UTD ARE BACK

24 Jul 2015 16:58:24
So you don't think Reus would of played and scored goals at the world cup? He would of bagged a fair few against brazil alone! He would of set the place on fire with his talent and just because some of you have love for the Circus act that is Ronaldo, a man who throws his toys out of the pram just because a player doesn't pass to him. If I have 150 mil, I no that I would keep 110 mil in my pocket and spend 40 mil getting reus in. Use the ret o the money on areas where man united need strenghing. Hummels for a start and then Varane. Anyway, you don't need Ronaldo you have the future in Depay!!

24 Jul 2015 17:21:27
Bfro

Specifically Ronaldos left knee which has often been pictured with an ice pack on it, which the Portuguese doc/ physio identified and as I posted on here an article in Marca about it as recently as Feb

24 Jul 2015 18:46:15
Rues Wont score 25+ Goals a season for us at 26 :P

24 Jul 2015 12:35:24
It was 1984 and remember Ron Atkinson was looking for a striker. I was desperate for Atkinson to sign Gary Lineker from Leicester and was apoplectic when he actually bought Alan Brazil. In fact sources at the time said Lineker turned up for talks to find Ron had gone on holiday. He signed Brazil and a year later Lineker went to Everton scored something like 42 goals and won everton the league. By then Brazil was moving on or about to and SAF would soon take over.
In the 90's I again found myself shouting about a young Brazilian at PSV I think, Ronaldo it was, but we bought Yorke. Did alright Yorkey but what if we had bought Ronaldo.
So what I hear you say?

Well thanks to the press the names are coming in Lorrente, Zlatan, Pedro, Benzema yet my head is screaming Lewandowski and I just hope we make the right choice this time because I don't want to ask what if again

24 Jul 2015 13:41:21
Linekar joined Everton in 1985 and they finished second in the league, they were also runners up in the FA cup where big ears scored the opening goal. He than left for Spain after one season.

24 Jul 2015 13:24:43
Yorkey did "alright"!!! He was part of one of if not the best strike partnership the perms ever seen? I get ya point in the other part tho lewi would b perfect for us?

24 Jul 2015 13:29:32
Completely agree mate. If Lewandowski is available we should do everything to get him.

24 Jul 2015 13:33:19
Remember when we didn't sign Ronaldinho? The most exciting player around and football legend? The we decided to sign some unheard of 17 year old from Portugal. That didn't turn out too bad.

Football has its moments like this we just need to be thankful for the players we have had and have signed. Depay will be the player that will make us not regret signing Bale.

24 Jul 2015 13:36:07
Yorkey 'did alright'? We won the Treble in the year we signed him and his partnership with Andy Cole was one of the best things I have seen at Old Trafford.

I understand your point but not sure Yorke is the best example here.

24 Jul 2015 13:51:08
linekar nearly joined in 89

24 Jul 2015 14:13:08
Cman

You are Correct, Everton didn't win the league with him in 85-86 although after Ron ignored him in 84 he finished the leagues top goalscorer then the next season scored 30 goals in 41 games. But what if he had signed for us ?

24 Jul 2015 14:31:34
I don't want to lose the point about Lewandowski however I stand by the Yorke comment and am not criticising him. My thoughts are that Yorkie was a top player who formed a great partnership with Cole but Ronaldo the Brazilian carried on at a higher level than Yorke for some time. That Ronaldo was an all time great of the game.
We just need to make good decisions now and to ignore someone like Lewandowski would, in my opinion be a mistake of high proportions

24 Jul 2015 14:51:06
Rm I've been saying for some time that lewandawaski will be the best choice. I love watching him and he can score goals in all ways, head, shots, close, long. Amazing player. Hope we're not going to get llorente!!

24 Jul 2015 17:03:54
Brilliant and thought provoking post redman

24 Jul 2015 12:24:04
so the media circus intensifies with ref to a certain no7 i hope its just hype how much would we have to pay for a 30 year old prob about 100 million plus add ons for his ego old trafford is no place for a players swan song he should be looking for a younger version of a certain no 7 if there is one out there

24 Jul 2015 12:56:26
We have him, he's called Memphis.

24 Jul 2015 13:32:59
Brilliant GDS

24 Jul 2015 13:58:35
memphis has sooooo got to have the no. 7 shirt!

24 Jul 2015 10:36:53
Press reporting that we have offered Zlatan a 3-year deal worth £7 million. Any truth in it or the press being desperate to get one right?

24 Jul 2015 11:05:28
3 year contract for a 33 year old would be madness, if you look on the arsenal page ed002 has said that his agent has had talks with a premier league club, so there could be some truth in it but I really hope not.

24 Jul 2015 11:11:51
Depending on his attitude he would be a fabulous signing, regardless of age. Would rather go for Ronaldo, Muller or Bale though.

24 Jul 2015 11:32:38
Strikers all experience very sudden tail off in their goals to games ratio starting around this age. That deal would be terrible!

24 Jul 2015 11:34:20
Someone reads the Metro!

I'd take everything they report as if it were April 1st.

24 Jul 2015 11:39:42
Honestly not that fussed about him, i think a big deal is made about him more due to his personality than ability, drifts in and out of games and only ever once in his career played in a challenging league and he didn't like the competition for places.

We don't want players who think they're bigger than the club and he thinks he's bigger than every club. Steer clear, we're no final swan song.

24 Jul 2015 13:40:58
I'd have loved him but a few years ago. Doesn't make sense now.

24 Jul 2015 03:35:38
i don't think ronaldos ego would fit with van gaal

24 Jul 2015 15:12:03
lol that is an understatement. actually can't see any of the big names and him being in the same mix. He is a tory banker but he is our manager and let's see what he does this year. No more excuses.

24 Jul 2015 00:07:08
Ronaldo and Benitez not going to work. I said it when he got the job and something will give. All is not well at Real even though Perez would have us believe otherwise.

24 Jul 2015 01:52:02
Benitez will make sure Ronaldo is at his side. He knows he is dealing with a big ego but he needs him. Its all part of the job at the end of the day for them. They are professionals. We fans get too emotional about things. I think things like that happen all the time everywhere. Everything does not get caught in cam!