Manchester United Banter Archive August 26 2018

26 Aug 2018 20:17:22
If Jose does implode and leaves, thoughts on replacing him mid-season?

Media loves Zidane, and he does have a good record, has history with Pogba and Martial and seems a good man-manager, but, for the rest of the season, I’d go for the Venga bus, The Professor: point to prove, can organise a team, knows how to attack and would be a good short term option until the end of the season (ZZ woukd want a long contract - stuck with him if not live up to the hype)

26 Aug 2018 20:41:35
If we are talking about anybody, then jardim for me.

ZZ i'm unsure about and a definite and resounding NO for wenger.

26 Aug 2018 20:49:11
Which history does he have exactly with Pogba and Martial Wallace? Hasn't managed any of them before?

26 Aug 2018 21:55:26
I am very wary of us appointing ZZ. I think he doesn't have a great deal of experience as a coach. Yes he has done well but he managed a squad that would probably have done well for any manager. Correct me if I am wrong but everything wasn't hunky dory between him and club president. Could be great but. Bit of a risk.

26 Aug 2018 22:36:12
Zidanes a good man manager, which some of our lot need, but there's questions about his tactical versatility. Jardim would be good but ed2 suggests unlikely. I could see Woodward going for Wenger. Used to working on a budget with young players.

26 Aug 2018 22:47:33
Wenger is about to turn 69 struggled at arsenal for the last few years and with the history he has with arsenal there is no way the club would go for him, or he would take a job with us .
The ed has suggested blanc and his name has come up before, not managing at the moment as well.

26 Aug 2018 23:54:24
If jose leaves before the pudding and honey glazed ham i would take Wenger till the end of season.

His football style is miles better than park the bus jose. AW has a nac for getting great players and let's be honest if he had of kept his best players instead of rubbishty snapping them up and us with RVP

Who knows.

27 Aug 2018 00:14:12
Maybe but whoevers picking managers isn't doing great so far. Personally I wouldn't want Wenger but I can see the thinking that could suggest him. In short I've very little confidence in the people running the club not botch it again.

27 Aug 2018 03:11:47
You can't be serious about Wenger guys. He was far too rigid in his thinking towards the end and having inherited a terrific defensive unit he never built on that. Even today Arsenal suffer from lack of a solid base. All title winning teams are built on a solid defensive foundation which has been recognised by both Pep and Klopp. Zidane inherited a fantastic team but it's superstars were getting older and maybe he knew that and also that's it's talisman Ronaldo was going to Juve. Working under the pressure in the Premier League might be more than Zidane is capable of. As weird as this may sound I would not mind if Bielsa was given a chance. He has the knowledge and experience to handle a big club and would make out players a team who fight as well as play attractive football. (it would also really upset Leeda fans which would be a nice little bonus)

27 Aug 2018 06:40:07
A bit left field but what about glen hoddle or micheal laudrap?

{Ed001's Note - the Michael Laudrup who wouldn't take coaching sessions in the rain because it messed up his hair when managing Swansea? He would only do one training session a season in Manchester!}

27 Aug 2018 07:18:26
I cannot find Ed002's post on why Jardim was ruled out for us as Mort said. But, I wish we would get Jardim after Mourinho with Marcel Bout as DoF and back them wholeheartedly.

27 Aug 2018 10:16:55
I would not mind a combo of Hoddle and Gary Neville if they could be persuaded to work together. Steel and no nonsense and Creativity.

27 Aug 2018 10:21:05
For me, the outstanding candidate is Pochittino. He has experience in the PL and he's done fantastically well recruiting players on small budget. Spurs are great to watch and have a good balance between defence and attack.
I also think Diogo Simione will have to be considered. His teams don't play all action attacking football, but they play to a certain cohesive plan. And the players are super fit and can play the high pressing game.
Finally, i know he's taken on the Spain job, but Luis Enrique will be a different direction for the club and will finally have us playing the Barcelona way. But this will involve us changing half the team as we'll need players who can actually pass the ball under pressure. Our current crop of players are particularly bad at that.

27 Aug 2018 10:22:37
Perhaps I’ve used the idea of “history” rather loosely Scholes but he has at the very least connected with both. Reports suggest they are “intrigued” by the prospect of Zidane as manager; indeed, Zidane admitted he’d have liked him at Madrid and described him as a cross between Makele and Viera.

(Plus the French Connection of course 😉)

{Ed002's Note - Maybe Pogba and Martial will move to a club that Zidane eventually joins then? Because both want out of Manchester United.}

27 Aug 2018 12:02:05
Interesting insight Ed002, many thanks as always. May I ask if you think that PP and AM want out of MU just because if Mourinho, or do you believe they’d stay if Jose goes first? (Ie deeper issues at the club, not just JM. )

Shame though, as they get paid so much to be professional and do a job, regardless of who the boss is - unless JM is being unprofessional too.

{Ed002's Note - Players come and go, they are transient employees. The players Manchester United sign have come from other clubs - there doesn't need to be any weird background story going on. Pogba should never have signed. Martial was never worth what Manchester United paid for him. Nobody is being unprofessional.}

27 Aug 2018 12:34:11
Hoddle is an interesting left-field choice. I'll be honest, I'd never really considered him until I saw him mentioned above. His England team were decent to watch, and there's no doubt he knows what he's talking about. Except when it comes to karma, obviously!

27 Aug 2018 18:18:14
Could be anyone but he needs 4 or 5 new players whoever it is because this squad hasn't enough strength in depth to win the league.

27 Aug 2018 18:33:34
Martial is not good enough and Pogba doesn’t want to be here. End the circus and sell them both!

{Ed002's Note - The circus is the fans.}

27 Aug 2018 23:11:31
if that's the case about micheal laudrap that makes him an even more exceptional coach - what a legend!

26 Aug 2018 13:28:52
No fan of the man but Neil Custis makes some balanced points about Jose at Utd. Mentioned Spurs and Liverpool fans rubbing their hands together, whereas Jose has won us more trophies than them in two seasons than in their last 10-15 years!

Also mentioned how he has picked up a squad which let's not forget was awful football and moral under LVG who got rid of the likes of Raphael, Welbeck and Evans who could all do a better job than half the dross he bought. Far worse than we see today.

26 Aug 2018 14:33:50
To be fair lvg had just won the fa cup if we are using trophies as a yardstick.

26 Aug 2018 14:45:36
And to be fair to lvg at least we had a way of playing.

Jose hoof ball is depressing the life out of us.

Winning trophies playing this bad can only last so long. Last season we won nothing.

This season doesn't seem to be any different.

You can't teach and old dog new tricks.

26 Aug 2018 15:44:43
Same fans who moaned about Moyes moaned about LVG moaning about Jose prob moaned that we didn’t win 5-0 every game under Fergie aswell, maybe support the club instead of picking holes.

26 Aug 2018 16:24:29
'At least we had a way of playing'? 😂😂😂 What was that then Bolger? Keeping the ball in our own half for 90 mins and still losing? People literally fell asleep when LVG was here, must be forgetting how bad it was.

26 Aug 2018 16:43:42
Best time to be a United fan post Sir Alex was the end of Van Gaal's second reason. Had three youngsters leading the attack in Rashford, Martial and Lingard and culminated in an FA cup win.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but if we could have just won an extra game that year we would have got top 4, kept LvG for another year, continued to develop Martial and Rashford and then get Allegri (and the DoF we had planned to join him) in to replace LvG and we would be doing just fine right about now.

26 Aug 2018 16:46:46
Some fans on here will moan no matter who the manager is and all these calling for Zidane to replace Jose I bet it will be no better with him in charge as he sets up the same as Jose does its just he had better players to do it with at Madrid.

26 Aug 2018 16:51:24
Maybe but I don't think allegri would've worked either but we'll never know. It is what it is and we are where we are. The next Choice has to be right, we can afford no more mistakes. But I have little confidence in the right choice being made.

26 Aug 2018 18:04:02
The game has changed so much since the year 2000 . The formations the coaching the diets etc . The days of a SAF staying and managing the whole club are long gone. We need to get off the managers back and support our great club. 😆😆.

26 Aug 2018 18:57:20
Well said BFRO, let's try and ignore the journalists and the pundits and let's get behind the team and the manager. A bit of perspective is needed. The team played badly and lost. I'm hopeful of a positive response from the team tomorrow.

{Ed0333's Note - Hope is a beautiful thing. I hope Jose smiles one day this year.

26 Aug 2018 23:40:24
Jose likes to start every day with a smile.
Just to get it over with.

26 Aug 2018 23:48:27
Didn't LVG play hoof ball as well when the going got tough? Think some have short memories.

I remember an advert on BT mocking him and the forward was called Van Hoof.

27 Aug 2018 12:34:52
Anyone else feel a shiver run down their spine, when LVG is mentioned?

26 Aug 2018 20:06:53
Maybe you'd like to go on the sightins page then Ed033✌🏻.

{Ed0333's Note - that picture will break the internet mate.

26 Aug 2018 13:09:35
{Ed's Note - Reid the Red has posted a new article entitled, Premier League Previews 26 August 2018

26 Aug 2018 09:42:10
Rumours that contract talks with david de gea have reached an impasse as he feels he should be one of the highest earners alongside alexis and pogba.

I assume most would give de gea what he wants in a heartbeat as his performance level has been phenomenal for many years.

But at some point the club is going to have to put its foot down as if alexis sanchez performances are the benchmark for being one of the highest earners at the club, then everyone is going to want to be the highest paid player at the club because alexis has been awful.

26 Aug 2018 10:12:57
Course he should, why would our multiple player of the year and our only world class talent be on any less.

26 Aug 2018 12:27:40
Where’s he going to go if you don’t though? The top teams have first choice GK’s locked down.

26 Aug 2018 13:11:35
PSG? They have Buffon who is 40+.

26 Aug 2018 18:35:58
P s g won’t pay what we will, but I would pay him what he deserves he has earns it.

26 Aug 2018 18:44:42
If a player of DDg is available I am sure Barcelona would love to upgrade GK position. Top Serie A teams maybe a option.