Manchester United Banter Archive January 26 2019

26 Jan 2019 18:46:00
I don't know what's happened at Utd but I like it! In fact I don't just like it I bloody love it.

When I think back to our best teams over the last 30 years vintage 96, 99 and 2008 they could all counter with devastating pace and power.

There is nothing more thrilling than to see a team go from one end of the pitch to the other with lightning speed and accuracy.

For me this a quality that defined our best teams. The ability to transfer defence into attack in the blink of an eye. To travel from one end of the pitch to the other and score a goal with breathtaking speed and simplistic genius is what made us box office. Of course I can appreciate possession based football but nothing gets you up off your chair like a team than can break with pace, power and precision.

The sight of Pogba marauding forward with Rashford, Martial and Lingard darting ahead of him like the red arrows is a sight to behold. When we win the ball and break in those transitions it's a joy to watch. Those 4 playing together, interchanging positions and breaking into space really is something special at the moment.

I thought we had no chance against PSG but if teams commit men forward and leave space in behind we become a very dangerous opponent.

I'm trying not to get carried away, we have obvious deficiencies in defence and we could also do with someone to put their foot on the ball and control the midfield at times but I must confess I'm loving watching our games at the moment long may it continue.

26 Jan 2019 19:36:30
Inviting the other team to attack you is a great tactic just as long as you don't keep conceding goals while you wait for the opportunity to attack with that lightening speed and accuracy.

26 Jan 2019 20:33:33
If we play like that against PSG we will lose. The amount of chances we gave to Arsenal if we do the same against PSG we will get punished.

26 Jan 2019 21:10:44
How should we play then Singh? Maybe we should get Mr Mourinho on the phone to tell us! Just relax and enjoy the football it's the best we've seen in ages.

26 Jan 2019 21:44:52
We will beat psg.

26 Jan 2019 23:06:24
To be honest I'm not bothered about the psg result. If we lose then we lose. i'd rather lose having a go an getting at them than parking the bus, being scared to play an losing anyway.

If we win then we win. i'd rather win by having a go an getting at them than parking the bus an trying to nick a goal.

27 Jan 2019 01:04:13
I don't know about Mourinho because i didn't mention him but if we play open football with PSG we will get toasted.

27 Jan 2019 08:36:58
What have PAG ever done in the CL to deserve such faith? PSG will always struggle because of the lack of quality teams in their league. They have to psychologically raise their game every season in the knockout stages as domestic matches are dead rubbers by this point.

Whilst in some ways a shame for the match they are also minus ( or not match fit ) Verratti and Neymar. I think you overlook the fact that we have an attacking quartet of equal danger to PSG. Match will be won and lost by our willingness to press them in the home match and counter attack in the second

I genuinely see no reason to fear them and believe we can win without it being a miracle. This isn’t Moyes taking United to Bayern Munich. This is a genuine student of Sir Alex with nothing but respect for the club and its culture taking an extremely talented squad of now hungry players to any ground without fear.

Genuine optimism, and a wonderful throwback to playing big European teams. It will be close. It could go either way. But that’s how these matches should be. I do believe that PSG are under more pressure than ourselves to win.

All I can say is bring it on. These nights are well overdue. No supporter should be speculating defeat, if nothing else in respect of what Ole has (and my God has he) achieved.

27 Jan 2019 09:45:48
Singh I'm not sure what game you watched on Friday night but I would hardly describe it as open football.

Without risk there is little reward and Solskjear cleverly positioned Lukaku and Sanchez as split strikers to exploit the space in the channels when Arsenal's full backs attacked. Lingard pressed from the front and dropped deeper to bolster our midfield when we conceded possession. He made runs ahead of the ball when we broke and his energy and intensity were vital to our game plan. Yes it left us exposed at times with Herrera and Matic being pulled into wider areas to cover our full backs but it meant we posed a genuine threat on the counter. Under Mourinho our wide players we're dragged so deep they played as auxiliary full backs. We ended up defending our own box and when we did eventually win the ball back we had no option of a forward pass. Lukaku was isolated up front, his hold up play was inconsistent at best meaning we could rarely transition between defence and attack or keep sustained possession of the ball. Mourinho invited pressure without any plan to attack.

I thought we defended well against Arsenal. Whilst they got into some decent positions they didn't create too many clear cut changes and we managed the game comfortably in the second half. Arsenal are a good team especially at home and have well beaten Chelsea and Spurs in recent weeks. Make no mistake this was a tough examination which we passed with relative ease.

PSG will hopefully be without some vital players. They will probably still start as favourites but I think we have suddenly become a very dangerous opponent on what they probably thought was a relatively straightforward tie when our name was plucked from the hat.

Part of me can understand the caution and even scelticism of some posters recently. We all know there are areas in our squad that need improving and the attitude of some of our players has been questioned however results speak for themselves and with Ole placing his trust in our talented youngsters and seemingly getting the best out of arguably our only real world class outfield player in Pogba let's just enjoy the remaining games for what they are and get behind the team.

27 Jan 2019 10:35:12
I am totally behind the team but not 100 percent convinced we will bewt PSG as i think Mbappe will be the difference.

27 Jan 2019 15:34:09
And so he might. If we lose to individual brilliance from one of the best young players currently around then so be it. As long as we give it a go. I think you may be surprised.

28 Jan 2019 07:12:42
Without Neymar, PSG may loose some psychological edge.
Added to that, they hardly have any fit midfielders.
And finally I feel that the pace of our attackers can trouble the great Thiago Silva.

28 Jan 2019 09:11:07
Missing good players that normally feature in your best 11 is often a great leveller.
When you consider our new found confidence it’s a dangerous mix for PSG.

26 Jan 2019 14:51:17
Impressed week in week out, Lindelof is becoming an untouchable component of this team along with Pogba. In my mind there's only the second centre back spot and right back spot up for grabs (as well as Young did) .

I'd be interested to know if we are linked to any central midfielders or who you'd like to see come in? Pogba, Herrera and Matic are a superb three but the rotation options of Fellaini, Pereira, Fred and McTominay don't have the same quality.

Thoughts?

26 Jan 2019 15:12:41
Id like to see what Fred can do if given a chance. Maybe he just needs to settle, after all last season people weren't convinced on lindelof. Mctominay looked good yesterday albeit with the u23s. Maybe he needs a loan, regular minutes to round him out and add experience. The other two I'd let leave.

In, we need someone as the long term successor to matic who can allow him to be rotated and rested. We tend to overplay him and burn him out. Fred we need to figure out his role. We also need back up for pogba. Why we haven't been in for Ramsey or rabiot I don't know.

26 Jan 2019 15:52:50
I still think Shaw has regressed since signing a new contract. Someone better to give him a wake up call is needed. We need a defensive overhaul on my view, CB, RB (even though young has been good considering is winger), LB.

26 Jan 2019 16:02:41
I think we need a CB and a RB for the first team, then a long term successor to Matic in midfield and back up at LB for Shaw.

For me Kalidou Koulibaly, Ricardo Pereira, Ruben Neves and Danny Rose.

Promote Tuanzebe and Chong.

26 Jan 2019 16:36:52
I wouldn't argue with that. I did think the fullbacks were our weakest area last night. Young's a trier and never gives less than 100% but needs phasing out. I'm still not convinced on Shaw and think he needs some proper competition.

26 Jan 2019 17:19:48
For me with just how demanding the full back position is we need more strength and depth in the full back positions. Darmian will leave, Valencia is likely to as well. That just leaves Shaw, Dalot and Young. Them three aren't enough in a potential 50-55 game season.

26 Jan 2019 17:36:31
I wouldn't be against bringing in a couple of signings such as Danny rose and a rb an cb of similar ages to provide experience for players to learn off. However we know that Woody isn't interested in bringing in 29-30 years olds.

26 Jan 2019 17:39:30
Looks like Cedric soares is of your list shappy.

26 Jan 2019 18:15:31
Lindelof proving why the Benfica fans were devastated when he left.

26 Jan 2019 18:47:38
Shappy I agree completely on those players you’ve listed. Would make our squad very strong. I would like to see Fred given a chance in midfield with pogba and Herrera at some stage. Matic has been fantastic but will need a rest. I think the Wigan game was harsh for Fred as he was in a midfield which had never played together before and it didn’t help his performance. He can clearly pick a pass but seems to let himself down with his first touch. I would like to see him rotate with Herrera and simply tackle and pass. He has the energy and work rate to do that. Plus he would be able to pick out our forward runners with his passing range. I know ed001 doesn’t rate him but I do think there is a player there. Just needs confidence and to get used to the league. Keita has also struggled Too. I think Fred will come good.

26 Jan 2019 18:44:17
I think Bailly needs to be given some faith and play LCB with lindelof. VL is growing and growing and getting better. If we look at Liverpool only VVD is quality yet the rest of defence play great under him. Why can't we achieve the same goal.

26 Jan 2019 21:28:38
I would like a starting CB RB and CM then we need a couple squad players for depth another CM and versatile full back.

26 Jan 2019 22:19:05
Mort, Cedric Soares is still a player I would strongly consider. But if given the choice I would go for Ricardo Pereira over Cedric Soares based on their form this season.

Ricardo Pereira is probably the best RB in the league this season. Cedric is still a great player and offers great flexibility. If we needed 6-7 players maybe Cedric might be worth considering over Pereira based on the fact he would probably cost less.

26 Jan 2019 22:47:30
Alderweireld is a no brainer in the summer.

26 Jan 2019 23:10:10
There's talk of Cedric going to inter on a loan to buy deal or was when I posted that. So he could be off your list.

26 Jan 2019 23:13:18
Not a fan of danny rose at all.

27 Jan 2019 17:59:02
Don’t know how old he is but every time I’ve seen Doherty at wolves he looks a good player, could be a good shout for RB, still think chillwell for LB.

26 Jan 2019 14:28:27
And here's me thinking you lot named the fa cup a plastic trophy, oh silly me.

26 Jan 2019 14:51:36
Which one of our lot are you referring to?

I don't remember any United fan calling the FA cup a plastic trophy, certainly not before Arsenal surpassed us as the team with the most FA cup wins, nor when it was a key part of the treble in 99, or any any point when it formed part of our double winning seasons. Certainly not 4 years ago when we lifted it for the 12th time.

Certainly it isn't the trophy you start a season dreaming of winning above all others. But make no mistake there isn't an football club in the country that would turn their noses up at an FA cup win.

Any team that has any dignity will do their best to win it. However, a UCL or a league title win are more important globally and probably domestically now as well.

For someone who hasn't won the FA cup in 13 years I find your defence of the competition your team is no longer in admirable. You clearly stick to those memories of 2006 win with such joy. Just a question is Liverpool's 2006 FA cup win your first memory of your team winning something? That might explain your steadfast defence of a cup that no one is knocking.

Untied fans are happy to win any trophy at any time, obviously we would prefer to win our first league title in 5 years, but that doesn't seem likely this season. We do look like we might have a far better chance next season though. However, we are still in the FA cup and the UCL, so while we are in with a shout for them we will continue to push to improve and do better.

26 Jan 2019 15:03:42
You'd love a plastic trophy wouldn't you mighty? 😂.

26 Jan 2019 15:18:12
He was probably the twonk in the crowd that time with the "come back when you've won 18" card.

26 Jan 2019 18:12:40
Just ignore him. He'll get bored talking to himself after a while.

26 Jan 2019 11:33:11
Great win last night, jesse Lingard scored a great goal and fed me a piece of humble pie, long may it continue 🙂.

26 Jan 2019 15:24:24
It was a very cool, very mature finish from Lingard, saw the opportunity and threaded it like an inch perfect through ball. great to watch.

26 Jan 2019 16:04:55
I loved the control with the left foot finish with the right, cool as you like. He has really matured over the last couple of years to the point where for me he is one of the first names on the team sheet.

26 Jan 2019 18:13:53
Was about to give him a rocket for dallying on the ball in the box, instead of hitting it first time. Shows what I know.

26 Jan 2019 09:58:59
Has anyone heard from Beast recently?

26 Jan 2019 10:18:44
The real question is where is Malaga-Gooner?

26 Jan 2019 10:33:06
Beauty cast a spell on him.

26 Jan 2019 10:34:45
Rumour has it that the lack of anything to complain about has driven him to madness.

26 Jan 2019 10:42:43
Fair play to Malaga, doesn't shy away. Was in the chat last night at the end.

26 Jan 2019 11:11:23
Yep malaga always 1st on to either take the piss or say well done. Mighty come back in May.

26 Jan 2019 11:19:01
Pure trolling should be banned, banter is fine of course.

26 Jan 2019 11:44:24
Malaga s a good lad, gives it and takes it, Irish Rover on the scouse page is the same. Mighty Reds not so much 😂.

26 Jan 2019 12:42:56
Little bit embarrassing from Beast to be honest, I’m sure he will come on telling us he’s been on holiday or unable to post etc but I just don’t understand people who only get anything from being negative, must be such a horrible existence. I am loving it at the moment, all feels like a bit of a dream, we haven’t even gone behind in a game yet, crazy.

26 Jan 2019 13:15:50
Try being on Twitter, there’s loads of Utd fans like that.

26 Jan 2019 08:54:57
So Mighty Reds pitched up again yesterday poking fun. I’ve just checked the Liverpool site and he doesn’t post on there. It seems he’s like Gunnerbod who is always on the Spurs site but never the Arsenal site. Some people are very odd.

26 Jan 2019 15:39:12
Most Liverpool supporters are odd AJH.

26 Jan 2019 01:45:40
Brilliant peeps a plastic trophy which was named by a certain set of fans, all of a sudden in desperate times becomes the world cup, need educating who named it a plastic trophy, then again is there an educating system in Salford?

26 Jan 2019 05:18:55
Sigh, a scouser questioning eduction, stunning. Remind me what Klopp has won for you.

26 Jan 2019 05:31:12
How many trophies has Rashford won verses your first team superstars mighty?

FA cup is not a plastic trophy unless we, the fans, allow it to be.

League cup - yes a second rate cup. But come on, not the FA cup. No matter who wins it.

26 Jan 2019 07:10:42
Dodgy as I said you obviously need educating as you clearly have no idea who named it a plastic trophy, Salfords educating system at its best, like I say peeps claim anything in desperate times, simply clueless your mob.

26 Jan 2019 08:15:59
I'm getting the feeling mighty reds is starting to get a bit worried about a certain fixture that's approaching.

26 Jan 2019 08:27:35
Oh how liverpool would like to win any cup at this rate.

26 Jan 2019 08:43:06
Mighty, when you said “is there an educating system in Salford? ”, did you mean is there an “Education system”? Have you been educated Mighty?

26 Jan 2019 09:11:08
Hubris, the reality is that having resigned from the FA Cup, Klopp has to win one of the two remains trophies left for them. If Liverpool and Klopp in particular get to the end of another season with no trophy the pressure on the manager has to rise by a very significant notch.

Hailed as the hero, Klopp has certainly produced a very good footballing team, easy on the eye, even if their best player is delicate in the box. However, Klopp has to win the league in my opinion to be called a success, the pressure is on more so with each passing season and this one they can’t miss the opportunity. Therefore one can excuse Mighty Reds for not just sharing the pressure his club are under but showing it and trying to deflect away from it.

26 Jan 2019 09:57:09
How does this post even get through.

26 Jan 2019 10:39:24
"Damn, another win in for utd, lemme go online and make a mockery of myself"

26 Jan 2019 10:40:56
As a Liverpool fan you should be looking at a plastic trophy and aiming to win it. You haven't been able to win any of the others these last 7 year's.

26 Jan 2019 14:03:24
I think given the spend he's had in the last twelve months if he doesn't win anything serious questions have to be asked.