Manchester United Banter Archive June 26 2011

26 Jun 2011 23:44:38
RAINFISH and SYDNEY bottom line is berbie n carrick arent world class. . .. .. N Manchester United are. They shouldnt be a first choice at utd ( which i think ull find they arent) and yes i agree hindsite a great thing but looking bk now 50 mil for them pair . . . spurs were laughing at us in the end. They just havent fitted in. Berbie didnt even make the squad in Cl final owen was ahead of him . . . . . says all i need to say. Cum to think of it shame carrick wasnt at wembly that nite. . . . oh he was . . . forgot iniestia wore pockets TORQS

26 Jun 2011 22:32:07
Now at the end of the season nearly all of us were in agreement that we needed a new GK and 2 midfielders, one to attack and one to defend and shield the back four. Now it looks like De Gea will be tied up within the next 10 days or so. And we've already tied up deals for both Young and Jones, now Jones can play as a defensive midfielder and Young is an offensive midfielder so we've signed players to fill the roles that we all agreed was needed.
My point being is IF we didn't sign another player and just promoted our youth then i'd be pretty happy with what we have.
In my OPINION we could do with a player who plays in the middle who does abit of everything, someone who passes the ball around and dictates the pace of the game, someone who doesn't give the ball away but uses it to control the game in the way that Scholes used to. In my OPINION that would be either Martinez or Banega but we could also mould Cleverley into that role as his passing and vision are top notch.
If you look at the squad we have players for every midfield position we need DM- Fletcher, Jones, Tunnicliffe CM- Carrick, Cleverley, Pogba AM Giggs, Anderson, Morrison plus some of the best wingers in the world in Valencia Nani and Young. I still Expect us to sign one or possibly two midfielders but wouldn't be gutted if we didn't, and would still feel that we'd be strong enough to win the league next year and have a good go in the champions league.
I think people need to stop using youtube to scout players and watch them for every minute of every game they play over a whole season then people may start to see that the grass isn't always greener in the next garden, like someone once said "Sometimes you look in a field and you see a cow and you think it's a better cow than the one you've got in your own field, it's a fact right? sometimes it never works out that way". And if you want to question him then i would surgest that you take your "support" else where as you clearly know nothing about football and you have no respect.
Sir Alex has been here before and he knows what he's doing Trust in him and you'll see that next year we'll still be challenging for and winning some of the major honours.
Do you feel that Man City Chelsea and Real madrid will piss all over Barcalona next year with their expensivly asembled "teams"? i doubt they will too, Barca's strenght lies in their TEAM play which is something they've worked on as a team since they were kids growing up together in Barca's academy, so to beat them you need to be the better team not have the better players. In short it is not a puzzle you can solve by simply throwing money at it.
Trust in the greatest football manager of all time to know what he's doing and whats best for Manchester United. Thrust in Sir Alex.
Shappy

26 Jun 2011 19:56:39
Tomboz go back to your own site, idiotic to mention the genius that is scholes in the same breath as gerrard, one is a genius one is a headless chicken, why did benitez keep moving gerrard out of the centre mid, because he didn't trust him in there, he looks good on tv running around like Roy of the rovers but he left gaps in the middle which good teams exposed time and again for Liverpool and England

26 Jun 2011 18:48:29
heskey has on his twitter he will be signing for celtic have a look if you do not belive me........steboro

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Strange heskey doesn't have twitter.....

26 Jun 2011 18:14:18
if sanchez isn't going to Barcelona then he's not going anywhere.United said they weren't interested any more and the chances are that he is not going to city. ;)man {Ed002's Note - And Chelsea?}
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When/where did United say they weren't interested anymore (or that they were even interested in the first place for that matter)?

Why is it not likely that he will go to Manchester City? The latest news circulating the press is that they are favorites to sign him now. At no point has he said that he would not like a move to City (the rubbish about him refusing to board a plane to Manchester was instantly denied by Udinese).

Why would Sanchez not want to move to a bigger club if the possibility arose?
T0MB0Z

26 Jun 2011 17:31:06
Do you think thiago alcantara will be signed? superb talent and young?

26 Jun 2011 16:19:46
Sky Sports News:
"Speculation:

Reports in Italy claim Manchester United are to make a big-money approach for Napoli's highly-rated forward Edinson Cavani. It is understood the Red Devils had the Uruguayan watched on several occasions last season."

Not sure I'd fancy us paying his E50m buy out clause. Will probably cost around ?Ç£35m. Probably worth it given that he is a better striker than Suarez who has been excellent for Liverpool since signing in January.
T0MB0Z
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Better than Suarez ? Your having a laugh :)

Rob

26 Jun 2011 15:51:14
Park Ji Sung hopes to be offered a contract extension amidst speculation linking him with an exit from the club -
"It would be an honor for me to keep playing for Manchester United."

"I just want to stay at Manchester United. As an Asian player, it's an honor to play for the biggest club in the world."

"I want to achieve the 20th league title for United."
T0MB0Z

26 Jun 2011 15:18:05
man s**tty have no chance of landing sanchez the clubs might agree a fee but its still up 2 the player 2 agree and it wnt happen

26 Jun 2011 15:09:23
A Spanish news organisation (El Mundo Deportivo) are reporting that Barcelona have pulled out of the race to sign Alexis Sanchez. They are apparently fed up and will now turn their attention to Aguero who they believe will cost them less.

I'm not sure I believe that they will look to sign Aguero but would not be surprised if they have been priced out of any potential move for Sanchez. According to Corriere dello Sport and Tuttosport Lionel Messi is Pushing for the signing of Aguero.

Quotes from Pozzo today; "If he was to leave, I would say that City have the highest probability of success, ".

Make of it what you will

If Barcelona are truly out of the running then surely we need to consider a second offer? Allowing a player of this quality to sign for one of our domestic rivals would be a huge mistake and one which I fear will cost us any chance of success domestically next year.
T0MB0Z

26 Jun 2011 14:24:45
Personally, I dont think Sneijder is a good call at the mment, hes at his peak now and I think that his form will drop. We should go for a young player like Thiago Alcantra or Marvin Martin - they're both young and much cheaper than Sneijder around half the price. If Barca get Fabregas, it is more likely that thiago couuld come. Im hoping for a miracle but as we all know SAF knows what hes doing so I'll stick with him ont this one {Ed007's Note - *snigger* Marvin Martin......"Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom!" Sorry guys!}

26 Jun 2011 13:27:26
Constatine Red needs to take a chill pill!! obviously bin out on the town tonite and didnt pull so needs to take out his frustation on someone!!!"""
dear unknown sir
its no wonder you don't put your name
that was the most sensible post in a long long time
most immature people here rambling knee jerk reactions against players they have never seen play
very sad for a follower especially against promising youngsters
a player, among other things, need support to progress
and these guys are young, what were you doing when you were 20? or you are not there yet?
yes it's a banter website and yes negative comments are a norm
but harping on rubbish is painful irritating and unwarranted
gan

26 Jun 2011 13:13:55
And that's why Madrid have 9 barca have 3 in last five years and fergie has two in 25 years. Only we care about losing finalists
Being 2nd best is no title oh we were second best to barca aren't we good
What gets up my nose is people who by glorying lack of spending basically accept what glazers have done. Are you that blind?"""
dear sir
you just proved an invaluable point that ngiak makes often
there are many fans here who are young glory hunters
re-read your post
it's a classic glory hunter chant. we have the best record in England and among english teams in Europe in the last 20 years
and yet you think it's not enough
well you must have joined the bandwagon in the last 3 years ngiak suspects
sad but true
thanks again for proving ngiak's point
gan

26 Jun 2011 12:19:27
De Gea is definitely coming in this week now that the under-21 tournament is over.

I would love to see Sneijder coming in aswell, but it seems to be up to his wife's desired destination as well as Inter's willingness to let him go. Not even mentioning our desire to actually chase the deal.

Sanchez might actually stun everybody by signing for Utd. Im thinking that after the Barca deal flopping out, and him refusing to board a plane to City, he might actually sign for us. He did always say how he loves Man Utd, but Udinese are greedy.

As for Nasri, i believe that we have to wait until he meets with Wenger. I highly doubt that we will sign him, wenger doesn't want to let any of his players go to his rivals

26 Jun 2011 12:05:34
I personally had little knowledge of Ronaldo, what a great buy, I also had little knowledge of Valencia, Evra and Hernandez. They were awesome buys. If we buy Sneijder I'm happy but if we buy another player that I have little knowledge of I know that I will be pleasantly surprised again coz we all need to trust. We have done all right so far with signings and the Main Transfer window hasn't even opened so lets just look forward and enjoy.We make World famous players not just buy them.

26 Jun 2011 11:16:35
Good post Cons Red! You wouldn't think we have just won our 4th PL title in five years and reached our third CL final in four years. I for one don't mind being the second best team in Europe. What people have to remember is Barcelona never spent their way to being the best side in Europe, yes they have spent a fair bit of money, but their successes have been developed via their academy. I for one don't mind being second best to a team that is IMO the best footballing side ever to step onto a pitch.

I am not saying the old Real Madrid teams couldn't beat the current Barcelona team, or the old United, Liverpool or Juventus teams couldn't beat them in a 'One off' game, but what I am saying is if they played those teams five times each, they would win at least three of them. IMO this current Barcelona team are the best ever. Real Madrid, Chelsea & City have net spent nearly £1.7bn between them trying to build a team as good as Barcelona in the last seven years or so, perhaps more, they have used managers like Jose Mourinho, Carlo Ancelotti, Scolari, Mancini, Pelegrini etc and they have all failed to topple Barcelona to go onto winning a major trophy.

United have net spent just £181m since 1992, Chelsea and City have each spent three times that amount in seven & four years respectively. I am proud of the way our club is run, I don't care that we don't spend silly money on players, SAF has proven that you can live within your means to be successful. At least we can be proud of our success, we have used our own money to bring in players to win our trophies, teams like Chelsea & City cannot say that. Without their sugar daddies, they would still be sat there with a few trophies between them.

Sorry about the essay, but I am a proud Manchester United fan, and this is the way I feel.

Sydney!

26 Jun 2011 10:38:43
the next few years will see the riase of the school of 2011, Pogba Tunnicliffe Keane Morrison etc, fergie has faith in them after there success in the youth cup, pogba reminds me of a young Viera

26 Jun 2011 06:21:01
Just a thought here, but do you think Nani could play the CAM? He had the most assists last season and is good on both feet. Young could've been bought to play the wing while Nani moves in?

Jake

26 Jun 2011 04:04:06
Well done Chicho another trophy in the cabinet to add to a successful first year. lets hope the form continues on to next year.

Also Dos Santos has looked class for most of the tournament especially tonight. Could be worth a look after his Spurs nightmare.

Jono!

26 Jun 2011 01:22:16
Who says Sanchez and Sneijder are our main targets? Last time I checked nobody from the club has indicated that we are even interest in either of them. I'm aware that David Gill supposedly flew out to Barcelona but not sure if it actually happened or if it did how interested in him we really were. I would love us to sign Sanchez but would be very surprised if he did not end up at Barcelona.

I do however agree with you that signing Thiago would be 'stupid' - but probably feel so for very different reasons.

Thiago will become a world class player if he is not already considered to be so. Unfortunately I am positive that were he to leave Barcelona that we would see a situation similar to the one we are seeing at the moment with Cesc Fabregas in about 5 years time. As such we would not be buying him from them - but loaning him until he reaches the top of his game and they decide they want him back.

Traditionally the best Spanish players have rarely ventured outside of Spain and those that have seem to find their way back there over time (Fran Merida, Gerard Pique and soon Cesc Fabregas to name but a few recent examples).
T0MB0Z

@To be fair Cesc, Pique and Merida were all poached from Barcelona, they never let them join us and Arsenal, we took them.

Sydney!

26 Jun 2011 00:25:53
My point exactly !!! wolves beat us city chelsea. . . . Were getting caught as a club. We never use to get beat by these kind of teams where as likes of city etc would drop points to them. Now we are !! thats coz we have average players in a truley great great football club. We need to make our club great again and buy proven one or two to keep ahead of game whilst still bringing through the youth. If we aint carefull we ll end behind likes of chelsea n liverpool etc coz we have players in our squad that shouldnt be at our club.

26 Jun 2011 00:21:51
Juan Mata goals and skill. This is what we need

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZNzceARzGs

26 Jun 2011 00:05:59
Just a thought. Who would you prefer to sign: Pastore, Sanchez, Gotze or Hazard. But only one! I would personally prefer to get Gotze. Gilly