Manchester United Banter Archive November 26 2012

26 Nov 2012 19:10:41
Im very much relieved that Fletcher is back and bossing the midfield ,its a boost ahead of the City game and i believe now people can see that Anderson is a key player at United

Im glad fletch is getting better and scored on saturday,but for most of that game he was poor and definately didnt boss the midfield
johndenton

Totally agree with you Johndenton. Really pleased for him for getting a goal but in every game I have seen him so far he has been off the pace and his passing has been dreadful. I AM KLOOT

Wasn't just me then. How easily people allow a goal to turn their glasses a darker shade of red.

TK-Red {Ed007's Note - Do you know that American farmers used to put red tinted glasses on their chickens? Chickens are naturally very cannibalistic and the flock would attack another chicken at the slightest sight of blood. The red glasses blocked out the red of blood so they couldn't see it and know which chicken to attack.}

26 Nov 2012 18:42:31
"DB mate, whilst I agree with you that it's not all doom and gloom we need to make sure we don't rest on our laurels. Yes we are top and in a strong position but we also need to improve our performances to stay there.

TK-Red"

Couldn't agree more TK mate, I was just fed up of all the negativity yesterday... Was starting to think I was the only one feeling positive :D

We are in a great position so far, no massive injury problems (if Vidic can get himself back soon) but need to start improving performances.

Roll on the Citeh match, maybe then some of my optimism will start rubbing off on some of you all ;)

DodgyBanter

DB I like you are an optimistic person and I see us going there and and winning 3-1 :)

Caolán.

Im with you dodgy
it could be a lot worse, weve been poor up to now but we will get better
not all doom and gloom
bring on city!
Will Red

So long as he doesn't select Scholes or Giggs at the Etihad then we should come away with atleast a point.

TK-Red

Or both of them!

DodgyBanter

You guys are optimistic. it will probably be 35 degrees and sunny on match day :)

shahram

On amore serious note, I think it will be very competitive and hope you guys are right.

Shahram

Hope it's 35 degrees too!

DodgyBanter

DB I refuse to even think about the idea of both of them playing. It just isn't an option....so now watch it happen.

TK-Red

35 degrees on match day is very possible from where I'll be watching the game ...
Please SAF - You will be absolutely slaughtered on this page if you play Giggs and/or Scholes against City - and rightfully so..... and the result will be horrible, sickening and unnecessary.
PerthDave

26 Nov 2012 17:34:19
Hey Ed/syd?
'please ANSWER'

Que. What type of player Utd need right now ??
(SUGGEST some names that you have in your MIND)

SANEDORO {Ed002's Note - I'll leave this for Syd and the others.}

Jeez, what's with the 'what do you think Sydney'?

A strong commanding CM of the like of Bender or m'villa
Chris the REDman

Syd is one of the oldest and most frequent posters on this site, and he knows what he is talking about, therefore a lot of the new posters tend to ask for his opinion.

Mick

Not that you asked me, but I will tell you who I think we need.
Isco, beautiful attacking midfielder, who plays from left to right. With very strong lower body(not easily to knock him off the ball since premierleague is more physical), can hold the ball beautifully and create some of genius assist. In Spain he is considered as a replacement for Iniesta. I think he would be gained with less than 18m.

Wanayama, yes Vidal would be nice but I dont think he will come. or box to box midfield with backs of energy. If we are not gonna buy anyone, we might aswell start getting chance to Tunnicliffe or try Jones in that role.
Those to players are all we need in Jan and Summer.


Red Samurai. {Ed004's Note - Would like to see Isco sign but I would make Bender first choice followed by Rodriguez and Baines.}

Bender!
(The player not the OP ;)

DodgyBanter

James Rodriguez would cost around 30M and porto won't accept any less. Where as Isco who will cost less than 18m would be perfect(even thought he is not a winger in conventional sense). He plays on left and right wing and then drift inside with his bags of skills. Yup I agree with a box to box midfielder being the first buy,but we have to buy Isco( seeing how rubbish wingers are).
We need a box to box midfielder with bags of energy and Isco. A fitting replacement for Scholes and Giggs.

Red Samurai

26 Nov 2012 16:42:33
whats going on with the banter site?

any time i click on the man utd banter tab below the rumours tab it opens up ok but just keeps going back to like 14th or the 15th november as if they are the most recent posts?

Robbo

26 Nov 2012 15:52:57
Hi eds any chance of iturbe in jan? or are the scouts watching Porto just watching Rodriguez? I know there was a reported interest in Iturbe and rumours of some sort of deal involving him going to Porto to ease the work permit issue, could you clarify the situation for me, cheers,
Tookers {Ed002's Note - I don't see any chancve of a move to Manchester United in January. He is certainly not going to be anywhere near the first team yet.}

26 Nov 2012 12:02:31
"Maradona good; Pelé better; George Best"


REDCORE!!

Maradonna was better than Pele!

Jono

Immortal quote, i would just want to swap Pele and Maradona's positions though :)

Deeps...

Lets all hope that doesn't happen. Moyes style of football will not suit us, he'll be sacked in two years.
NoMidfield

You would be if you where as high as Maradona!

aaallj5

Anyone who says Maradona was better than Pele is dilluded.

Fresh!

Why is that fresh? I have never understood the massive following Pele has had with his massive goal scoring in the mighty Brazil and USA in comparison to Diego who was great all over the world winning titles for unfancied teams like Napoli and carrying his nation to success (take note Mr Messi) all the while he was off his t!ts!

IMO he is without a doubt the greatest ever. I couldn't even imagine Messi taking the tackles the likes of Best, Diego and Pele were subjected to never mind doing what they did on the shocking surfaces back then as well.

Jono

Socrates was better than Pele.

At that time Brazil was by far the best international side, and Santos were probably the worlds best team. You could quite easily back them against any other team in the world. The Brazilian League was very strong.

Fresh!

Fresh

Yes brazil were the best easily in those years even highlights show the team as a whole was head and shoulders above the rest. The Brazilian league at the time held on to most of its talent but they were spread over 2-3 teams and those teams dominated every year. Pele was banging in goals v opposition who would be championship level nowadays where as Diego spent most of his time at barca and Napoli of which he latterly pushed Napoli into the Italian elite and that was when Italian league was full of talent.

I think many go with pele instead of Diego as he is far more straight laced in comparison and scored so many goals but IMO if gerd muller had played in the same team as pele he would have scored a very similar amount where as I cannot think of any other player who could have replaced Diego at his most influential.

Jono

So based on that argument Messi and Ronaldo are average because apart from Madrid, Barca and perhaps Athletico everyone is rubbish. Thats essentially what you're saying. I don't think the standard of football has improved, several Brazilian teams from that era would wipe the floor with Madrid, United etc.

Fresh!

A lot of very good judges say brazil 1970 were the best team ever and pele was the best player in that team and scored over a thousand goals also a great player does not have to beat 3 men to be great pele was brilliant in the air and had the talent to play a ball with perfect weight and where it should go when it should go there

Fresh

What league do you watch?

The Spanish league team for team is far better than the PL so by my argument Messi and Ronny are rated as top players. I certainly wouldn't rate most of the Spanish top league players as championship level!

The PL is far more exciting as the teams are closer in terms of ability whereas real and Barca are 2 steps above in their league.

I'm not taking anything away from peles achievements I just cannot see how people having seen both play would think that pele is so far ahead of Diego you would be 'deluded' to think otherwise.

I personally don't rate pele in the top 5 players ever.

Jono

Zidane

Poetry in motion and in my top 5 of all time. Won everything there is and just beautiful to watch. Had everything you would want in a player.

Shahram

26 Nov 2012 10:35:57
i know its not manutd related but what will happen to la liga if catalonia splits from spain?. {Ed002's Note - Nothing.}

Ed 002,I had read somewhere that Barca will have the chance to chose between Ligue 1 and La Liga? IMO there is no chance Barca are going anywhere else.

Deeps... {Ed002's Note - I would not worry too much about what the local mayor says.}

26 Nov 2012 04:27:51
Interesting that several of the Sunday papers had stories of a Pep G meeting with Fergie. I would bet replacing the great man was discussed. It has also been said Pep would take the newly vacany Brazil job for the world cup. 2+2 may = 1 more season for Fergie with Pep coming in in 14/15 season. It's thought he'd relish the challenge. Sounds great in theory.

Stockie

26 Nov 2012 00:26:15
There has been a lot of talk on here about the next United manager and everyone is going for the more sought after names and so called bigger names yet nobody has thought about who the Glazers would hire.... What makes any of you think they would give Pep or Klopp or Blanc or Mourinho a big wage packet... They may just go for Phelan or Moyes or O'Neill.... You never know.... (I hope not but the Glazers are that dodgy I wouldnt put it past them)

We all know Ferguson would never, ever allow that.

What's it got to do with Ferguson. He does as he is told by the Glazers. Expect Moyes working on a shoe string budget is his speciality and would allow Sir Alex to move upstairs like Sir Matt did. I AM KLOOT